Azerbaijan Wants To Take The Capitol Of Armenia...

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[@carlstevens781]

*“Our goal is the complete elimination of Armenians. You, Nazis, already eliminated the Jews in the 1930s and 40s, right? You should be able to understand us.”* -Hajibala Abutalybov, Mayor of Baku & later Deputy Prime Minister to a visiting German delegation from Bavaria, 2005. Just a reminder of what we’re dealing with here.

[@methuselah8885]

I mean, the logic is sound. He's just starting with incorrect data.

[@syndipirate2598]

⁠@@methuselah8885not really, it’s just a whataboutism. Germany (for now at least…) admits Nazi actions were bad.

[@alexparker4244]

now i *really* wanna know what went through the germans heads after *that*

[@saltking2715]

guy already looks like hitler...

[@pizzahaken4527]

@@alexparker4244 Speaking for myself, a whole lot of intrusive thoughts.

[@ianmoriarty2199]

Imagine if Greece suddenly started talking about declaring war on like half the Mediterranean countries because most of their coastal cities were originally built by Greeks...

[@Dwalin1989]

Bro, Greeks really influenced all of the Mediterranean, but Azeri culture is practically absent in Armenia. Therefore, your example is not correct

[@c.m.9369]

Oh, for fuck sake… Little Vladimir decides he wants to steal some land before he kicks the bucket, and ever since all these little wanna-be strong-men have been crawling out of their caves, yelling „me too! Meeeee tooooooo!!!! I want to do some colonialism under my name tooooo!!!“

[@janefkrbtt]

new historic ancestral claims justifying genocide meta just dropped

[@xx_isabel_the_wolf_xx3869]

The blood and soil meta needs to be nerfed

[@ghostramen7002]

​@@xx_isabel_the_wolf_xx3869yeah, but the devs don't want to go through the effort of coming up with a more balanced system.

[@Notllamalord]

Literally “fabricate claim” from EU4. Just barely passable blood and soil bullshit

[@YokaiX]

Back in vogue… But some would say it was never out of fashion.

[@ApotheosisZzz]

Yerevan is older than Azerbaijanis by Millenia, like seriously what we call Azerbaijanis are arrivals in the last thousand years or so. Yerevan was established as a settlement over 5000 years ago.

[@MrGksarathy]

Was about to say, wasn't this city historically Armenian for far longer than the settlement of Turkic peoples in the Caucasus and Anatolia?

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

@@MrGksarathyAbsolutely!!! In no point in history was the city of Yerevan not populated by Armenians. It’s a really whacky claim. Azerbaijani and Turks arrived in the area 1000 years ago and mostly “displaced” the native Armenians, Persians and Greeks that lived in the area.

[@timmysleftnutsack5075]

Cries in central Asian. Yeah we also suffered from extreme Turkic forced integration

[@KevinUchihaOG]

"Yerevan was established as a settlement over 5000 years ago." Source? From what i can find its more like 2500-3000 years ago. Which is still impressive, but a little short.

[@ByzantineDarkwraith]

@@francogiobbimontesanti3826 according to some cursory research, its population was down to only 20% Armenian and 80% Muslims of various ethnicities at one point mainly due to war and ethnic cleansing, but the thing is it doesn’t matter. If it was 100% Azerbaijani for its entire history until 1918, ,it still wouldn’t be cool for Azerbaijan to just invade Armenia based on that alone, and the fact that it’s been populated by Armenians for longer than Turkic people have been in the Caucasus doesn’t make it any more wrong to Azerbaijan to invade, and the fact that it was apparently only 20% Armenian at one point doesn’t make it any less wrong for Azerbaijan to invade. Just wanted to point this out because it’s important to remember that ethnic expansionism isn’t only wrong when it’s aiming at taking over an area that “rightfully belongs” to another group, it’s just wrong, period.

[@robertray2714]

Azerbaijan following in the long line of turkic people creating hilarious ahistorical narratives claiming that everything is secretly part of their culture. I need a vaush research stream on pan-turanism because that shit goes deep

[@leonhardeuler7647]

​@@sourrycherryThat's why as an Indian when people try to compare Hindu nationalism to anything in the world I point to the Turkic nationalism. People often have a soft spot for the Turks because they are "not like Arabs" but the extreme racism, revisionism and nationalism more than ruins any pretense the Turks make about being "cool Muslims".

[@RunawayTrain2502]

@@sourrycherry From what I know, Kosovars, Albanians & Bosnians don't like it when you call them Turks. Mainly because they'll assume you are a Serb calling you a slur...

[@Liquidsback]

@@leonhardeuler7647 I only fight Hindu nationalists on three things, the embrace of "Ancient Aliens" theories due to vague references in the Vedas, Alexander the Great did defeat Porus at Hydaspes, and most consequential of all, the treatment of Indian Muslims, Jain, Buddhists and so forth.

[@Liquidsback]

@@sourrycherry They say while living in Izmir, Ankara, Istanbul, Kayseri, you know...all cities that were definitely founded by Turks.

[@leonhardeuler7647]

@@Liquidsback They are not that different from Turkish nationalists are they? With "questionable" treatment of minorities, alternative "science" and "history", irredentism, and general dictatorial tendencies.

[@pasindupereraSL]

Azerbaijan: We will take Armenian capital. Russia: I'll do you one better, we will take yours and armenia's capital.

[@andyhx2]

Nah, Russia currently goes the route of maximum evil. They only do what they shouldn't and never do what they should.

[@JohnDeBrazen]

The phrase 1 country 2 states is often used for Turkey and Azerbaijan. I wouldn’t be surprised if Azerbaijan wanted to become part of Turkey in the long term. I feel sorry for Armenia, unfortunately Azerbaijan has oil Armenia doesn’t.

[@wta1518]

@@sourrycherry Ah yes, Azerbaijan is Turkey's only true ally, not all of the other members of the largest and most successful mutual defense alliance in all of human history.

[@siohunndai]

@@wta1518Turkey doesn't like other NATO members, lmao.

[@wta1518]

@@siohunndai Yeah, I wonder why

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

@@wta1518 because we don’t eat enough kebabs. We need to eat more kebabs to appease the Turks. Sources: garlic mayo and chili

[@wta1518]

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated That makes sense.

[@DanielMorales-gu3my]

Let's see what bullshit rabbit hole will Hasan put himself in

[@tiny9184]

Depends on which side America is on

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@tiny9184 With his Turkish nationalist tendencies I'm not sure if it will matter. If you go like one layer deep those pan-Turkic theories probably claim the moon too.

[@PetoriaZero]

He's a dirty Dank little Turk, but he's also a Tankie, so he will "both sides" himself into Genocide denial

[@ausername8699]

Well, Hasan has said he thinks Erdogan is better for Turkey than anyone America would prefer. Erdogan is essentially an Neo-Ottomanist that considers Azerbaijan a vassal state, and is an Armenian genocide denier. So I would guess Hasan would be on the wrong side.

[@logoncal3001]

Hasan takes the turkish larp too seriously so yes, he will 100% side with Azerbaijan

[@jokester3076]

The Turks didn’t arrive until the Middle Ages, Armenia has been around since the Bronze Age.

[@Anverse-14]

And the Hungarians didn't come to the current Hungary until the 9-10th century.

[@ApotheosisZzz]

@@Anverse-14Yeah but it’s not like Hungary is trying to claim Vienna as rightful Magyar clay or something

[@asherroodcreel640]

Correct, I am desended from the guy who invented cooking, all you should warship me

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@ApotheosisZzz I've honestly recently seen more Hungarians claiming Budapest to be rightful Austrian clay.

[@tamelo]

​@@asherroodcreel640mathematically you probably are, and all of us.

[@logoncal3001]

The balls of this guy claiming that a turkic nation is older THAN ARMENIA, who is older than Rome and Alexander.

[@a_kazakis]

For Turks history begins 1000 ad. Before that dinosaurs ruled the earth or something.

[@IndependentObserver]

@@a_kazakis The fact that this was the moment they first learned how to write and plow the fields, doesn't change the reality that they're wrong.

[@johnnyth440]

The Greeks have a more legitimate claim for most of Turkey by that logic.

[@amaurylannes]

Troy, the infamous Greek city-state, is located in modern Turkey

[@manotenkerian]

Western turkey is greece 🇬🇷

[@E.Mulchi]

Weird for Azerbaijan to go for a historical claim justification given that Armenia has been around for 2600 years. I feel like no matter what you cook up you would still lose by your own logic

[@Notmyname1593]

They be gangsta until Armenia starts to read out its claims, which would be about half of Turkey.

[@ame72813]

Especially given that the region of "Azerbaijan" is actually a part of modern day Iran. The name "Republic of Azerbaijan" is just a massive lie.

[@afterhourscinema782]

Azerbaijan is basically mini Turkiye and they act the same way too 😂

[@derpeth2101]

Azerbaijan is Israel if Israel was Muslim.

[@derpeth2101]

@@sourrycherry They got arms from Israel too

[@ayadhyist]

That’s an insult to Türkiye. 💀

[@KateeAngel]

Their president is mini Putin though

[@TheDethBringer666]

BREAKING: ancient pottery reveals ancient Azeri territory in upstate New York

[@ChatGPT_ChatbotTest]

Hamas has been using Central New York as a staging area for the invasion of Ukraine confirmed???

[@Vraptor1]

Albany is history Azeri land, for it is where the first Azeri was born.

[@asherroodcreel640]

Oh shit that's where I live! . . . Is it the one I found in Mexico?

[@ChatGPT_ChatbotTest]

@@Vraptor1 Massachusetts is rightful Azeri clay because an Azeri visited once I think

[@ChatGPT_ChatbotTest]

@@asherroodcreel640 Mexico is Azeri territory because of this comment

[@DunnoWhatHandleToUse]

I think this is a distraction, the Azeris and the Turks are talking about cutting through southern Armenia to link the two parts of Azerbaijan (and Turkey) together, they're already building the road. I think that needs to be the focus here.

[@dawndarklight44]

@@sourrycherryIf Armenia no longer exists; permission is not required. 💀

[@daraghokane4236]

What if I was to tell you Hamas has been hiding in Armenia this whole time?

[@ChatGPT_ChatbotTest]

Hamas has been using Central New York as a staging area for the invasion of Ukraine confirmed???

[@PetoriaZero]

Ah, I see. Clearly justifies Azerbaijan's ambitions then

[@blasttyrant3228]

Hmm that doesn't sound like you're condemning them...

[@ArDeeMee]

OMG NOW EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE! .. … - no one ever, 2024 ^^

[@manotenkerian]

Lol they're in turkey

[@jensboettiger5286]

The Armenian civilization is one of the oldest that exists, on par with Egypt. Azeris are a recently settled nomadic group by comparison

[@ByzantineDarkwraith]

But it doesn’t even matter because even if what he said was true it doesn’t in itself justify a violent invasion of another country

[@GelloWello]

@@ByzantineDarkwraithdefinitely but Azeris are a somewhat comparable to a colonizing force. Their claims are, our forefathers conquered them so we much continue to occupy them.

[@PivotDJ]

So is the world back to full blown conquest mode?

[@tiny9184]

Seems like it

[@scoobydoobers23]

Amazing what happens when the regional hegemon both breaks the stigma against annexation and is too weak to enforce its desire for stability in its weaker neighbors.

[@4DRC_]

It’s like the 2020s are the opposite of the 1920s in terms of geopolitical flow. Then it was empires falling apart, now it’s empires trying to form. If all of this culminates in WWIII, I feel like it’s basically going to be WWI-but-in-reverse politically.

[@unyieldingsarcasm2505]

@@4DRC_ wont work, the empires disintegrated due to the advent of national identity, the world war just sped things up. The ottomans, Austria-Hungary, and parts of the Russian empires were already falling house of cards due to areas simply becoming ungovernable. unless you plan on slaughtering or displacing the entire population of annexed areas, all this is doing is setting the would be conquers up for endless insurgency.

[@tiny9184]

@@4DRC_ Most probably it will just be proxy wars...Because an actual war would require the use of nukes by the losing side.

[@Vraptor1]

Azerbaijan is fucking insane. this is the kind of justification you’d hear from a Paradox game wtf

[@asherroodcreel640]

But what about the post apocalyptic sequel spoon goul delpomacy

[@user-ti8wx9kc5k]

Azerbaijan needs the Civs. Plus they have a formable to core the population. It’s a vital step for their Pan-Islamic-Empire play through.

[@Em3ga]

The justification sounds very Israeli

[@vaylard9474]

a lot of people say a lot of things to tickle nationalist boners in terms of actions, so far azerbaijan has only taken over its own internationally recognized territory that had been illegally occupied and ethnically cleansed by armenia. there have been no reports to my knowledge of any atrocities committed by the azeri military, the armenian exodus was motivated entirely by the fear of retaliation for their own past atrocities. if azeris actually invade armenia i will change my tune tho

[@vaylard9474]

@@sourrycherry it's not azeri propaganda, it's ... international law i'm neither azeri nor armenian, so this conflict is purely an intellectual exercise for me. and i'm sorry, i just don't see how armenia can possibly be in the right in this conflict without moral prescriptions that would end up justifying a lot of bloodshed throughout the world

[@petterbirgersson4489]

A thousand years ago turkic people didn't even live in the Caucasus.

[@theyeening]

Glad to see someone on the (international) left talking about this situation.

[@user-ti8wx9kc5k]

Azerbaijan needs the Civs. Plus they have a formable to core the population. It’s a vital step for their Pan-Islamic-Empire play through.

[@-el_bandito]

In millennium dawn, you can core the whole world

[@davidlegrice4207]

When I visited Armenia I saw an ancient cuneiform tablet that had been laid by the Uratian king who founded the settlement that would become Yerevan, on which he laid a curse upon anyone else who tried to take credit for the city. Perhaps that curse will now be unleashed 😏.

[@blakebailey22]

Poor Armenia, they can't catch a break

[@unclebobboomergames]

Dude looks like a nightmare version of fantano

[@just.rights]

Israel is setting a new standard here. They have a base in Azerbaijan. Barbarism seems to be contagious. Israel along with Turkey helped Azerbaijan conquer the karabakh region. Something is seriously wrong here. It is the common people who usually suffer from these wars and politicians end up getting their cut from the war profiteers. Kids who fight these wars get killed or at least get damaged for life.

[@HarryDirtay]

The real question is "Have the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon denounced Hamas?"

[@aaronmarks9366]

There was an ethnolinguistically Armenian state as far back as the 6th century BCE. The current Azerbaijani ethnicity only began with the settlement of Oghuz Turks in the region during the 11th century AD; the most they can possibly claim is that they're descended genetically from the pre-Turkic Iranian population of the region. Of course we all know the real reason is wanting to expel all Armenians and finally link up Azerbaijan and Turkey.

[@recognizesealand572]

I pray that iran protects my homeland Armenia

[@crane7472]

@@sourrycherry They are still part of the CSTO which makes them a current Russian ally

[@stanchpandora3658]

@@sourrycherry Armenia is still closely allied with Iran. Our cultures are similar too.

[@stanchpandora3658]

@@crane7472 Putin aint gonna do crap mate

[@Jaguar-lr7jq]

Iran don’t give a shit of armenia😂

[@stanchpandora3658]

@@sourrycherry they militarized their border when Armenia was attacked by Azerbaijan. They would have gone in if Azerbaijan fully invaded us.

[@skyeplus]

Now, in terms of "historical right" when it comes to Nagorno-Karabakh it was really kind of 50-50, or 60-40 for Armenia, because even if it was settled by Armenians in ancient times, Turk ancestors of Azerbaijani were also living there for centuries. Of course, all "historical right" claims are pointless anyway. It's the matter of law nowadays. When it comes to Yerevan, it's not even close. Armenia is a very ancient kingdom in the region.

[@MrTeniguafez]

Irredentism, so hot right now

[@patrickprice5654]

Ofc it is, Russia got v little backlash so most other countries seen this and had some interesting ideas

[@John-qv5ux]

Heck, this sounds kinda like revanchism (unjustifiable revanchism, but still)

[@FatalAlcatraz]

Wow, this guy must have spent all his perk points on the culture skill tree! The 'ancient piece of art means it is our territory, actually' casus belli is the last perk!

[@DrHotWarLove]

Who’s doing Azerbaijan’s archeology, Klaus from Atun-Shei?

[@mnessenche]

Probably 😂

[@KosmosMusicOfficial]

I am Armenian with my ancestors from Odz city (meaning snake in Armenian, as they were creating ink from worms and snakes) in Mush Region now in Turkey and we do not even talk about taking back our lands from East Turkey, North Iran, South Georgia or Western Azerbaijan. Aliyev always talk shit to keep the tensions high so the Russians can have another conflict zone to fight with the civilized world. They won’t be able to take any more territory as the Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh) has already been taken by force and the Armenians living there were expelled. The mistake our government has done for these 30 years was to believe in Russia and try to resolve the Karabakh conflict by Putin’s mandate which you all see was a fake agenda. Armenians are less military equipped and do not have a strong economy but we have been fighting for our rights to live for already 3500 years and believe me when the worst times come we have a force to win battles. Thanks for the video ❤

[@Thegr8MC]

Can the world please not break out into war for FIVE FUCKING MINUTES!?

[@Vermbraunt]

This honesty feels like they used the claim title action in a paradox game.

[@ZachRULES96]

The Turks have enough land. What more do they want. They seem to have the ideology of Lebensraum

[@ni9274]

Turks are fundamentally imperialist, they still deny the Armenian genocide and still dream of « uniting » the Middle East under their enlightened rule. They’re nostalgic of the Ottoman Empire and don’t accept that their empire is lost like French and British did.

[@yazovgaming]

They Indeed do

[@JohnDeBrazen]

Also there’s the Turkic union proposal. They want to connect all of the Turkic states and much as possible.

[@patrickprice5654]

This feels good

[@napoleonbonaparte8628]

​@@patrickprice5654 found the fascist dog

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

Is the Caspian Sea gonna get the same treatment as the Aral Sea then?

[@sunnya4310]

Turkic nationalists deny history of genocide yet make genocidal statements.

[@InfiniteDeckhand]

Are you talking about the Turan idea?

[@sfdko3291]

Man...I just looked up Yerevan and dude....what a beautiful city. It's absolutely gorgeous.

[@SimvitTravels]

It is a fun place to visit and very underrated. Took an ancient Soviet bus (that went no more than 15mph) to visit an old Soviet telescope outside the city, and man, that was a priceless experience. Later, an older couple saw me waiting for the bus back to town and invited me into their house and gave me cheese and bread while I was waiting. Truly one of the coolest travel experiences I've had.

[@reincarnatedwolfgod]

This a very weak excuse to invade another country.

[@presidenttogekiss635]

Wait, can the city belong to Azerbaijan when it was founded thousands of years before the turkic migrations to Europe? Pretty sure in the time when Yerevan was founded, the ancestors of the azeris were doing war with Imperial China.

[@ManAssome]

Lmao Azeris have no ancestors that ever lived in north of China, they are just linguistically Turkicised Iranian+caucasian people. They have no relations whatsoever with the nomads roaming around the Eurasian steppes.

[@RyanStorey1231]

Azerbaijan: A country you think about so little, you didn't even realize that not only is that not Azerbaijan, it's not even a landmass, it's the Caspian Sea. This is Azerbaijan.

[@SimvitTravels]

75% of Americans probably couldn't find Azerbaijan on a map, let alone know it is an actual country. They think they're hot shit.

[@maxminton3693]

The fact that Azerbaijan is so confident that they can do this shows just how much the Russian military has fallen. If you had said years ago, that Azerbaijan was going to attack Armenia, I would’ve laughed at you and asked them how they were going to beat the Russian forces. Now? Armenia will be lucky to have any Russian forces to help them at all. The Russian war machine is dead.

[@Charles-vg9kf]

The Russians aren’t helping Armenia because the Armenian government is considered correctly pro-western by Moscow. Armenia can’t expect Russia to assist them when they’re actively courting the United States.

[@DrinkTheKoolAid62]

Under the Ottomans, Armenia and Azerbaijan were under one province. The USSR inherited them after WWI, and in May 1936, the province was split into the two republics.

[@emperorpalpatine6239]

The current territories of Armenia and Azerbaijan were under control of the Russian Empire, not the Ottomans.

[@youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508]

@@emperorpalpatine6239 He meant that Russia took it from Ottomans and split it to two proviences, which is wrong btw, Ottomans had dozens of proviences in Caucassia biggest one being Shirvan.

[@youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508]

No it wasn't, under the Ottoman Empire Caucassia was seperated to dozens of proviences biggest one being Shirvan.

[@emperorpalpatine6239]

@@youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508 Except the Ottomans were never present in South Caucasus. Before the region came under the occupation of the Russian Empire, it was under Iranian control.

[@ByzantineDarkwraith]

@@emperorpalpatine6239 except Yerevan along with part of all of modern Armenia was controlled by the Ottomans between 1582 and 1603, and again from August 1635 to April 1636, (both as a result of various Ottoman-Safavid wars) and again from 1724 (due to the Treaty of Constantinople of 1724) until 1735 (when it was reconquered by the Afsharids), so you’re also wrong. I was originally going to comment to correct the guy you were correcting, because it’s true that the Russians gained it from the Iranians, but then I saw that you had already corrected him by saying something that’s not true so I decided to correct your incorrect correction instead. You’re welcome

[@mnessenche]

Armenia was there since the times of Alexander. It doesn’t even matter if Azeris or Armenians lived there first, but just the gall to lie so brazenly.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

Azerbaijan trying to play "I wuz here first" with Armenia would be hilarious, if I didn't think that guy was serious. Azerbaijan, as a country, is barely 100 years old. The Turkic speaking people from Central Asia moved into that area about 1k years ago, but that territory has been exchanged between the Persians, Greeks, Mongols, Ottomans, Iranians and Russians many times, without there ever being a nation named Azerbaijan. The first country there called Azerbaijan was founded in 1918, as a breakaway from the Russian Empire, and lasted two years until the Red Army invaded. After that the area became part of the Transcaucasian Soviet Socialist Republic, along with Georgia and Armenia, until 1936 when Transcaucasia was split into the three countries as constituent republics of the USSR. From 1936 until 1991 it was the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic. After the Soviet Union collapsed the current Azerbaijan emerged. The Azerbaijani "identity" is a several hundred years old and formed from the mix of Persian speaking Iranian people who lived there and the Tukic settlers who arrived after the Mongol Invasions. It was, for most of its existence, a part of Iranian culture that was heavily influenced by Turkic culture, but as Turkic became the predominant language it became more distinct. The land on which the Azeris lived was split between Iran and Russia in the early 19th century, until the first Azerbaijan was created in 1918. There are more Azeris living in Iran than in Azerbaijan. Meanwhile, the name Armenia was on maps over 2000 years ago, and Yerevan has been a city since well before the Turkic speaking people even left Mongolia.

[@isuckatusernames4297]

damn they getting really confindent for a country I didn't know existed until now.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

The balance of power between the two countries has shifted dramatically in their favour over the last two decades, thanks to being an oil producer.

[@HaileyWillett]

Eerily reminiscent of Czechoslovakia in 1938.

[@mareksicinski3726]

*capital The stuff about ‘Western Azerbaijan’ and Irevan Kahanate has been going for decades

[@Finnanben]

aliyev says dogshit everyday and none of it makes sense

[@SoraFan23]

Man it seems like everything in the world just continues to get worse and worse.

[@kale_phresch_]

NEW SYSTEM OF A DOWN ALBUM INCOMING?!??!?!?

[@KosmosMusicOfficial]

Would be great to listen to their new music again

[@vidyagaems4063]

Fifty Hitler Pots

[@majidbineshgar7156]

Very good analysis indeed,

[@eligoldman9200]

War truly never changes.

[@zack49]

The US can operate out of Turkey when they want to, we have Insurlik airbase established there.

[@Rudero3]

As a major fan of the Ottoman period, an Ottomanphile if you will, I will agree, modern Turkey, the Republic of Turkey sucks. A lot of my friends struggle to make any fucking money there. My one friend even teaches in a madrasa and she barely makes enough money. My friends always tell me "The government is so concerned about Islam or our foreign relations or our defying NATO orders, or whatever, that it forgets we're all running out of money because inflation is out of control." Like, priorities. And as far as the Azeri thing goes, I am actually a fan of the Azeris but not modern Azerbaijan. Like how you can hate Israel as a government but not hate the Israeli people. To my knowledge the Azeri tribes didn't show up in the Middle East till the 800s AD at the earliest, but definitely by 1100s AD at the latest, much like the Turks and the other Turkic tribes that left Central Asia for the Middle East, so like, the Azerbaijani leader's claims are fan fiction. Even if the Armenians didn't built Yerevan, it's been inhabited by an Armenian majority people for like a lot longer than the Azeris were even in the area. Isn't his claim like revisionism, like that shit the Soviets always complained about, wait, no that's the CCP, they lambast against revisionism.

[@xx_isabel_the_wolf_xx3869]

This is punishment for the drunk geography

[@walterl322]

For those who don't know, Atlanta is an ancient city, rumored by conspiracy theorists to be in Georgia

[@UlexiteTVStoneLexite]

My house is almost a century capital of old. It was built in 39

[@HansLemurson]

Because Armenia and Azerbaijan didn't exist as independent nation-states for many centuries, the Azeri and Armenian populations became heavily intermixed. When the Armenian refugees fled the genocides in the Ottoman Empire, they did some ethnic cleansing of their own in order to create a safe homeland for the Armenian people. But Yerevan was never an Azeri city. It had an Azeri population, sure, but so did every village in the south caucasus, and they were never the majority. Did Azeris whose families had been living there for centuries get forced from their homes? Certainly. The Armenians seeking refuge from Turkish genocide were not feeling particularly merciful towards turks in their new nation-state. Armenia has more right to the land that Azerbaijan recently took back than Azerbaijan has to _anything_ within Armenia's soviet-made borders.

[@tomwhitworth1560]

Interesting how Everyone has ignored this genocide lol

[@MasterGhostf]

Because its genocide on christian "westerners", its not relevant to social media, propaganda, and leftists. It goes against the narrative.

[@demelzakonoplyanka8550]

i mean i wouldn't say Armenians are christian westerners- like armenians have been Christians in west asia with Assyrians long before it arose in the west...@@MasterGhostf

[@freddywright4239]

I’m so glad I chose to go travelling this year.

[@FistyClown]

Armenia predates Azerbaijan. Wtf are they even talking about?

[@Notllamalord]

Can we reset this hoi4 run it’s starting to lag

[@mogscugg2639]

YEREVAN FOREVER HAYASTAN FOREVER ASTVATS ORHNI

[@daverockefeller7486]

@@asherroodcreel640 Yerevan (capital of Armenia), Hayastan (Armenia, Armenians call themself "Hay/Hayk" after their mythological founder), Astvats Orhni = basically god bless/bless Armenia you name it.

[@asherroodcreel640]

Hey I'm the middle one of those guys warship me

[@toneart1623]

he even looks like erdogan lite

[@InfiniteDeckhand]

I bet Hasan would support the Azerbaijanis in this dispute. He'd find a twisted way to justify their assertions.

[@milamarshall7842]

The Azerbaijani dude looks like caleb maupin

[@Anon_1003]

As a side note, Israel has been arming and supporting Azerbaijan, just to let everybody know.

[@Nihilus_Outis]

At times a gobal government with a global army that puts down invasions and genocides doesn't sound that bad.

[@OptimisticAsparagus96]

Dr Phil is off the rails, these days..

[@djjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj]

This is on the same level as that "swedes were actually ancient serbs" thing

[@RaeSan_Art]

Omg its him, Jim Teacher

[@arnoclaesen8105]

can we get vaush to do a cover of istanbul by they might be giants?

[@gilgabro420]

Why are there so many wars recently? 😭

[@venmis137]

Yerevan was Armenia back when Turkey was greek. Yerevan was Armenia BEFORE Turkey was greek. Literally before the trojan fucking war. Azeris do be meming.

[@Jaguar-lr7jq]

Armenians are coward😂 why armenians around the world go home to armenia and protect armenia?

[@CynicalBastard]

Weird mutants trying to carve up land is still so...immense...to try and grasp. Like is it because they are really creepy/eerie...? am I supposed to be sympathetic? I don't get it? Hopefully, these freaks go away.

[@chowbox87]

2020-war baby new title for this year I’m calling it

[@tacoforce5]

it kinda sucks that the only person i see actively talking about this is serj tankian

[@danielklein6556]

It's Capital not Capitol

[@ElTodoGrande]

Someone grinded too much HOI4

[@budselectgoesoff]

this is why humans will die out and leave the Earth to bugs

[@jiman3679]

Bro, do people still think that war needs a reason?

[@soptop1641]

ah Armenia and Azerbaijan when will those crazy kids learn?

[@hov4732]

Crazy kids? Azerbaijan is entirely in the wrong here and it’s a Nazi country. Armenia is just trying to survive on the land it’s had for millennia. Don’t spin this like both sides are wrong

[@soptop1641]

@@hov4732 JOKE 1.something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act 2.something that is amusing or ridiculous, especially because of being ludicrously inadequate or a sham; a thing, situation, or person laughed at rather than taken seriously; farce

[@yazovgaming]

@mikayil1 Turks trying to justify another genocide:

[@SuperCatman]

CAPITAL!!!

[@laylurii]

Think this lad needs to look up into more what happened between Azerbaijan and Armenia lol

[@IndependentObserver]

bump

[@hobog]

Anxious for Iran response 🤔

[@James-9999]

They bombed the Kurds

[@Horseofhope]

Iran's response to 2020's war was a wet fart. The only thing Iran is good for is hating the west and taking it on their own citizens.

[@Anvil35]

And yet they have the backing of the international community and sport wash with the F1

[@TrevorKeenAnimation]

Go back far enough and you'll find empires from pretty much anybody in that part of the world.

[@andyhx2]

I am just worried what happens when Turks find out that there were turkic muslims living in 12th century Hungary... Everyone knows that they have permanent casus belli on every territory on which any turkic person ever stepped on...

[@aaronmarks9366]

The Avars? Yeah that would suck. But Turks seem to believe the Hungarians are just a lost tribe of Turks anyway, so maybe the official line will be that the Hungarians are just descended from the Avars.

[@andyhx2]

@@aaronmarks9366 No I meant so called Bashgirids who were a community of Muslims living in Hungary described by some Arab geographers - they had quite a protection from crown for a catholic kingdom in Europe at that time if the Arabic sources are to be believed. But yeah, Avars and Huns were in Pannonia too.

[@samiamrg7]

Armenia and Azerbaijan are two neighboring countries with histories spanning thousands of years. Of course there are going to be enclaves of each others’ people and culture in both territories! There are Flemish and German speakers in France. Going to war to “reclaim them” hasn’t really worked out very well, historically.

[@Nakla]

Turks are rather new settlers Armenians lived there for thousands of years but oK

[@petersamson5407]

I somewhat understand how psychopathy works. But is there anything more to this than psychological problems? I can see how conquest was economically beneficial for countries historically. But is it today? First laying cities and villages to the ground and then needing to build them up again, all the while getting hate from the populace. What leader wants that? Or am I missing something?

[@Notllamalord]

LAND

[@petersamson5407]

@@Notllamalord Land was enormously important historically, particularly in feudal times. But nowadays? How?

[@azovianace]

I mean it is no secret erivan was conquered by turks in the first quarter of 11th century by seljuks. After that a handful of turkish beyliks controlled the city (i.e qara qoyunlu). Turks ruled over erivan until 1918.

[@yazovgaming]

1918? Russia took over the region in Early 1800s LMAO. And Prior to that were Iranian held States.

[@azovianace]

@@yazovgaming Russia did take control of caucasus but they didn't really care about the area and let locals rule it mostly(albeit under their loose governance. They didn't really care unless they rebelled). Before that safavids, qajars, aq qoyunlu, qara qoyunlu, timurids and even ottomans for a brief time period ruled the region. All turkic dynasties.

[@thaenaa]

ITS AZERBAIJAN- NOOOOO

[@milestailprower]

Related video: "Azerbaijan National Anthem but it's Star Wars"

[@the1truepickaxe298]

Don't you mean Albania?

[@m1cah]

The only