Meshuggah Metal Riff Lesson Part 3

[@chriscoooley]

man their guitar tones really compliment each other for the perfect 8 string sound

[@Xaer_]

3:30 oh yes!

[@Justinzorn907]

The whole time Fredriks like "I WANNA FUCKING PLAY!"

[@theronianquad637]

I KNOW RIGHT?!😄

[@shoooey]

7:37, "in reality that should be like...". Haha, I like that those guys refuse to stay in reality.

[@Alexander_Tronstad]

lol

[@jameschauvet3140]

shoooey lmao!

[@alistairdimmick2886]

I like how the views scale down from 500k to 332k to 146k for part 3, because people realise over the course of the videos they still have no idea how to do it like meshuggah.

[@DanXile]

Concatenation is the perfect example of when things are too fast and the details are lost. The slower version on Rare Trax is crushing.

[@holygroove2]

Yes, but the fast version is mind blowing. I personally am glad that both versions exist because no one would believe that the version on Chaosphere is all in 4. The whole freaking song is in 4, and the slow version proves this. That's why I can't do without either version.

[@Meshuggapeth]

DanXile I prefer the Rare Trax Concatentation with the Nothing vibe too

[@VVarat]

The problem is not that the song is too fast, the problem is that your ears sucks.

[@bmw_m4255]

its not too fast. IT's perfection.

[@Surisis]

I swear that when i heard pravus i could hear the in between rhythms. If you don't know Meshuggah's style then it's hard to hear but I would vouch for all Meshuggah fans on this one. We hear you.

[@OHBJJ9634]

I heard it. I learnt that by ear 😂😂

[@kevinsuarezmacena1003]

Now I want a slower and groovier version of New Millenium Cyanide Christ, thanks Mårten.

[@FRANK45CASTLE]

Man do these guys just crush, simplicity of riffs, heaviest most technical drums, best band ever. I could listen to these guys riff all fuckin day

[@StewTheTrue]

I'm Swedish! Lets keep making our revolutionary viking metal!

[@mortenhansen3455]

To you who posted these videos. THANKS! It just goes to show how hard it is to play the drums! THANKS a million!

[@holygroove2]

Love how they show what they do without a technical explaination. They come at it from an artistic veiwpoint, talking about the sounds, and grooves rather than the math involved. It's really important to have them on here correcting mistakes that people have made while transcribing their music! If I played guitar I'd want to know what they actually laid down.

[@memalley]

I hear it, dont worry

[@holygroove2]

Now that I am familiar with most of their music, these lessons are really great. I actually hear the Pravus details that he's talking about from the CD...I'll have to check out the Alive DVD to see if what he's saying is true. Sometimes it may not be heard, but it's still felt. These little details make them who they are.

[@eskeknas5540]

Penn & Teller does metal.

[@jameschauvet3140]

Eske Knas lmao

[@SergioChongLoo]

And let's not forget the insane long scale (29.4"), a huge difference compared to conventional guitars (24 3/4" or 25.5")

[@psilicybin666]

Awesome to see them play this stuff.

[@MatheusMPL]

These guys are awesome, taking regular patterns and messing with them, making them more complex and unique.. that's why I love their music!

[@davianmoua3888]

dam you guys really change the metal world for sure dammm thank you

[@holygroove2]

Always something to learn - the chromaticism in New Millennium Cyanide Christ is something I didn't hear in on Chaosphere at all. I thought the first parts of that riff were all one note! Wow!

[@bom2]

Pravus is such an amazing song.

[@New_Millennium_Cyanide_Christ]

I like meshuggah so much becouse this band is so unique in it's way to create music.

[@Phybia]

5:13 THALLS

[@specialblend2786]

Yes sir, I'm with you on that one.

[@harrymanbach]

@blackseeds666 edge III ,it's very stable,it locks like a floyd rose but it's got a large bolt that adjusts the angle of the bridge plate and keeps it from moving

[@Convisis]

Fred is a fricken alien, his playing is so on point it's ridiculous.

[@Xaer_]

1:16 ”thame Thing” Yeah I understand.

[@IndigoRoses7]

their guitars are so beautiful...Icemans are pieces of art

[@doktormoney]

the face you make at 3:34...

[@jimzeez]

I feel so bad for him when he says his rhetoric about why they write things if no one hears it XD he almost sounds so crushed. little character quirks in songs like that are my favorite part of them, and it even bothers me when my friends don't hear them cause they don't listen attentively.

[@holygroove2]

Be patient with your friends, and be glad for your ears. The fact that the two guitarists had and interview about this issue means that MANY people don't hear what you can hear, you are rare. There are still riffs that throw me off with this band, and I LOVE being thrown off while simultaneously knowing that it's all in 4. I wouldn't say that he's "crushed". I think he takes pride in what the band produces.

[@jimzeez]

I've no doubt they're very proud. It just came off as funny as first haha. As far as (some of) my friends go, they aren't all as interested in music as I am so they don't listen as attentively. To be expected.

[@holygroove2]

Yes, to be expected. You bring up something that I didn't think about - you're sort of saying that the character of the musicians actually shows up in their sound. That's an interesting thought with Meshuggah for sure.

[@holygroove2]

If they came out with a version of New Millennium.... that was as slow as they play it on this video (at one point) it would be super funky.

[@fredmachine]

Yes. The last item in the list (followed by a smiley) is what gave the comment a light-hearted touch. I'm sure you know how people say that tone comes from your fingers. So the last part was simply acknowledging that Meshuggah are quite talented and rather unique, so that even with the exact same equipment it would be hard to sound like them. And of course it was exaggerated to say that their skill is inhuman as they are quite obviously human.

[@ikariss77]

@supah1337B yup. sometimes it's just about the details that make it challenging and fun to play, even if nobody knows it's there

[@faselblaDer3te]

I love these videos!!! So great!

[@AnimeishDwarf]

They are so awesome. 2:23 is the beset comment ever. Shows they are totally down to Earth.

[@fredmachine]

Yeah, they use those now. Although for recording Koloss they just used them as an interface and used VST Amp Rack for the guitar sound.

[@harrymanbach]

@Floorsnarl "i'd stand on that !"

[@Purkinje90]

Opeth's from sweden too! Meshuggah rules.

[@micahgillis666777]

I love how they broke down the rift and New millennium cyanide Christ

[@12disneyhater]

damn i wanna learn to play guitar now so bad

[@trivrock2k6]

Reading that helped me learn to play it, I totally understand the structure now haha, cheers.

[@supah1337B]

"And then you wonder why the fuck someone would do something that stupid when nobody hears it anyway." haha Best band ever

[@TheChrispablo]

some people still dont get it: their fav. bands band IS Meshuggah

[@HorrorMaci]

1:39 I hear it in the song! And those notes makes that tune sick :)

[@jebslept8515]

0:54 concatenation correct way to play

[@pepogunz]

4:39 " TA TA, PUF "

[@TheOrangeFondler]

When he said Tom Bananza, my first thought was "hmm, who is that guy?" LOL

[@iAmPesukone]

No probs mate, glad I could help.

[@zhamoua]

THE TWO MONSTERS OF RIFFS FROM HELL

[@chessmastir]

"And then it goes to the end part... tada... puf."

[@pegatrisedmice]

i've heard these details in pravus but not in concetenation until i heard a remix :D since then, i love the original..

[@Jath2112]

I can't help but think that I'd love to know dudes like this. Just go hang out and suddenly it would be 6am and there'd be some insane riff affecting my behavior for the next week... go back to hang out and there would be new thing added ...repeat... probably fun as hell to talk about ordinary shit too.

[@zieglurski]

@MrBoffom yeah it would

[@ecaepevolhturt]

@Garell2 Makes sense. They should let him explain how he plays in Swedish and then give him subtitles (in the video). Thorendal's playing blows me away, truely inspiring.

[@npnaia]

Ah, right... and it cuts in the 3-1 before the guitar only part x)

[@bradleyrock4602]

they have the single most monsterous tone ever!! Fuck its so heavy!!

[@SergioChongLoo]

And let's not forget the insane long scale (29.4")

[@mistamontiel]

I liked the intro of Pravus..the shit I blast all the time has to be Pineal Gland Optics, definitely my favorite from obZen, I'm so pissed I didn't see them play it here and I don't see them live here either !! wahhh

[@DivBMesa]

i like the par that starts at 2:11

[@Abdouliia]

they said it on Part 2 mate " we don't use Pedals "

[@Si-Al-Ti]

NMCC is heavy in that slow tempo!

[@TyShredder]

Really? Nothing and ObZen are two of the most creative, ground-breaking albums in metal.

[@Fleischmahn]

@mangosnake Fredrik is a machine after all..

[@yesfan157]

The only reason I replied in the first place was because there was an apparent chance that you actually thought that their skill was unachievable; as such, I wanted to be certain that you knew that that was not the case at all. I wanted to implore you to believing the fact that you can reasonably achieve that which they have done. Go forth, bearer of light.

[@Blargaha]

@uberhalla i'm not him, but the advantage is that you can tune the guitar much lower. With a baritone you can easily get down to G tuning for example.

[@oceanmachine1906]

The Torah of modern metal

[@harrymanbach]

@Floorsnarl i'd stand on that!

[@SeanStephensen]

2:23 HAHAHA

[@underscoreisnotvalid]

2:28 hahaha fredriks laugh!!!

[@iAmPesukone]

Pravus main riff.

[@edmega332]

2:27 Fredriks only public statement. EVER. \m/,

[@trippyturtle777]

Hahahaahaha

[@holygroove2]

@thegr8HarV - I think they purposely use simple 3 or 4 note fragments. The notes trick the ear into thinking that they're using some weird meter, when they really aren't. There are a many songs where the notes they use are important - check out Closed Eye Visuals and Rational Gaze. I think they are all around the best. Go back and listen to Contradictions Collapse, and Destroy Erase Improve. They've covered a TON of ground already.

[@PredicateWinning]

7:36 at 0.5 speed is the best thing ever

[@MixYourWay]

lol that YEAAAHHH......yyeaaHHH....(8) lol

[@tehhhhhd]

It's not stupid! It's the details that differ good technical songs from GREAT songs, in my opinion.

[@drumskinninja]

eight string iceman...fucking SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MortonGoldthwait]

Call me crazy but the way they both layer off eachothers riffs reminds me allot of KoRn.

[@cheesesailor77]

yeah, it's obviously in there. I don't know, if you were going to go so far as to try and tab it, how you couldn't notice that.

[@yesfan157]

We could combine specifics into a variable called: Optimally-designed 8 string guitars.

[@escapewalk]

Fredrik : The Silent Killer..

[@MonroeVallejo]

And Axe FX.

[@xXxThelegend27xXx]

Every time marten stops, Fredrik keeps going, lol

[@theronianquad637]

Fredrik really wants to play! 😄

[@lethargicastengah572]

and Cubase 6

[@Guitarmazdur]

@iShawn95 like its Ibanez's choice? they cant make a custom model for an artist without the artist's permission :P maybe these guys would prefer to have guitars that are totally unique. from their perspective, wouldnt that be kinda cool?

[@BlGTlMBER]

3:32 FUCK YAH!!!

[@blackseeds666]

what brigde do they use?

[@MilitantOldLady]

@dopefiend138 ......why?

[@barfymann362]

1:00 sounds alot like Rocket Skates by Deftones. Understandable though..Steph draws a huge influence from these Guys. Go MESHUGAHHHH!! \m/>

[@blackseeds666]

sorry i meant the latest 3 ^^

[@PadillaDrummer]

finland?

[@guitarplayerone]

more tension but still thinner strings= clearer tone

[@TakiCyke]

Thordendal is the one on the right, Hagstrom on the left. The "about" tab is wrong.

[@Sepreturex]

your left or my left, and ı dont know anything about this right you talk about.

[@mvunit3]

gececiyim89 - RIiiiigggght . . . left?

[@JimDarkmagicThe4th]

Well they did say most meshuggah tabs are close, but wrong

[@DivBMesa]

god, i need to know how they make these sick sound. do they use a pedal or? would be kind to answer me.

[@uberhalla]

to 63b187: What's the advantage of having a longer scale, you reckon?

[@Rxbandit421]

Sorry for the 11 year response but it’s for string tension for the low 7th and 8th so the tone stays less mushy. Personally a multi scale guitar (fanned fret) i think is ideal. The one I have is a 25.5” on the high e and 27.5” on the low f#.

[@uberhalla]

@@Rxbandit421 thanks, finally I got an answer :D

[@Pantera4Ever1]

"Sparse is good Have You heard ACDC??" HAHA

[@metaldemonseanknels]

@TyShredder fuck that! more like in music in general! hail meshuggah! i'm getting an 8 string soon! hell yeah! i still agree with what you said though lol horns up!

[@selfrighteous88]

=)) 2:25 amazin.. they really love their music

[@thesm1l3y]

"and then you wonder why the fuck you do something like that when nobody hears it end you don't know" XDXDXXDXDDXDXXXDDXXDDD

[@Moose_Hawkins]

"And then you might wonder why the fuck do you do something that stupid when nobody hears it anyway, and I uh...I don't know."

[@Zeta9966]

Pravus = best song on the album

[@thesm1l3y]

2:22 LOOOOOOOOOOOL XD

[@npnaia]

which riff are you talking about?