THESE WEAPONS HAVE A SECRET! (Read Pinned) | Koumei & The 5 Fates

[@Aznvasions]

Forgot to include, non-Lavos Falcor variant: - Drop Elementalist and Primed Pressure Point for Blast mods. A riven would allow you to retain Elementalist, and replacing Primed Pressure Point with Arcane Fury. I'm on Twitch too now! See me live at: www.twitch.tv/aznvasions NEW Gun CO Spreadsheet: tinyurl.com/GunCOv2 0:00 Intro & Context 0:47 Blast & Xata's Whisper 1:38 Why is Melee Influence So Strong? 2:16 2nd Xata Hit 3:58 Opening Up Options 4:44 Why Falcor, Xoris, Korumm, Prova Vandal? BUILDS 5:26 Example Lavos Build | Valence Formation 6:26 Vigorous Swap & Arcane Arachne - Weapon Damage Bonus 7:05 Xoris Blast Xata Build | Lavos Variant 8:58 Xoris Blast Xata Build | Non-Lavos Variant 9:25 Falcor Blast Xata Build | Lavos Variant 11:30 NARAMON IS IMPORTANT 11:45 Prova Vandal/Korumm Blast Xata Build | Lavos Variant 13:41 Prova Vandal/Korumm Blast Xata Build | Non-Lavos Variant 14:21 Summary 14:47 Outro

[@GreetYourMind]

@Aznvasions can you provide a reference to the source of information for Xata's wisper and blast interaction? Because I haven't seen anyone actually talking about it since the blast rework. About 2 week ago left a message on Dystopia's incarnon video mentioning the interaction and getting a response of "Oh, i didn't know that". I recently did experimentation to find melee Affliction true potential and I have some interesting findings there. But really I have heard nothing about blasts interaction with xata's wisper being discussed in video content. 9 days ago I posted a video covering this topic as a In game demo of what it did. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpOQooR_a7lsh5I It's long but shows the interaction nicely. But I'm just curious as to where you first got the information about the interaction. As for the hits of Xata's wisper the damage ignores armor on the second hit and it has the void blasts hits scale off of initial instance of damage that proced the blast and void. So in reality the damage that the void does with blast is 30% of the initial void damage that trigger when blast explodes.

[@A_Game_Zone]

Can you please list melees that force proc blast as well?

[@A_Game_Zone]

Also try amalgam furax body count blast procs with melee influence for this setup. without influence blast procs deal 1 dmg.

[@GreetYourMind]

@A_Game_Zone The on death effect just triggers a blast proc to occur. And the coded damage for blast damage with no damage is 1, regardless of the source

[@GreetYourMind]

@A_Game_Zone There is hardly anything weapon wise that forces blast. But most slams have a chance to apply one. Jat Kittag is a good option too because it has a better Blast proc chance on slam needing only base damage moding.

[@JamesHui522]

A beast with this setup is Wolf Sledge, thing has 50% base status chance on the thrown detonation, and base element is blast. It has a small radius but the status spread more than makes up for it.

[@Aznvasions]

Wolf sledge is super duper strong on any kind of influence setup. Really satisfying weapon to use too.

[@sharksramblings3655]

Shhhhh we can't tell then yet

[@CaseyGray58]

wish it worked better on mobile which is what I play. hits just don't register sometimes.. well a lot of the time. idk if its map or enemy dependent but it sucks cause I farmed it and dumped 5 forma into it. glaive prime is the exact same way, xoris is reliable and the cerata is semi reliable for mobile. wolf sledge is a damn monster regardless and its throw is pretty

[@ahmedemad-lz8ij]

@@AznvasionsDoes this also work with Gas ?

[@4g3nt06]

Weakest Thor build

[@lande456]

I feel like the Exodia Force game-lagging multihits thing could come back here, but I'm too smooth-brained to put something like that together

[@beau1229]

There's some danger of that if this becomes popular, but unlikely this is far too endgame and setup necessary. Azn is awesome, I always see the cool interaction and down tune it for practicality

[@A_Game_Zone]

Does Arachne double dip on glaive throw as well or just the detonation?

[@beau1229]

@@A_Game_Zone it does what you ask, but how much overkill do you need? Use better arcanes and process, arachne is never needed

[@SthMax]

Also Magistar's slam attack is 100% Blast, so if you put up a electric mod & use sancti variant to boost up status chance, it can also quadruple dip, pair it with slam mods it will nuke everything

[@noahedenborg4221]

funnily enough base magistar for incarnon is almost always better

[@AwwHeckASnek]

@@noahedenborg4221 Not true, for actual use as a weapon sancti exceeds the capabilities of base magistar, the reason base magistar is often preferred is the stat boost from incarnon is larger, making it the superior stat stick for pseudomelee frames like khora.

[@noahedenborg4221]

@@AwwHeckASnek yeah ik its prefered for the stat boost i have brain cells

[@AwwHeckASnek]

@@noahedenborg4221 Then why reply "It's almost always better" under a comment about actually using the weapon for its own attacks?

[@gumbus4707]

Verdilac also has forced electric on slam attacks, much more reliable than the jank ass korumm combo. Gauss can also boost modded blast % with thermal transfer.

[@fluxnoble]

Legit bought a falcor riven 2 days ago. Glad I did. Thanks for the ideas!

[@medalliondnb]

I'm enjoying Halikar Wraith lately because of the blast on the AoE.

[@Moskyrath]

Cool still gonna stick to my zaw set up though. Love seeing 50mil+ pop up constantly. Yea not as big of an aoe but seeing a huge number is always fun compared to smaller spread out numbers

[@Aznvasions]

Totally understandable, big numbers are fun and Zaws have their own appeal!

[@A_Game_Zone]

Can't you build a status zaw for blast influence and use contagion at the same time?

[@werebearviking5612]

@@A_Game_Zone you can but without larvos it'd cost a lot of mod slots.

[@Eldersh1eld]

I saw a build for blast influence on a twin krohkur build (the riven had electric procs) so you could do a massive bleed/blast/influence thanks to it nuking a bunch of enemies

[@hateful_data]

influence doesn't spread bleed or any other IPS.

[@ArcHameris]

Not worth. I tryed.

[@D4PPZ456]

Ive been testing Falcor with and without whirlwind, and im pretty sure whirlwind makes it less accurate. It seems like the extra speed makes it bounce off the first enemy and go to the ceiling rather than bouncing among the enemies like it should.

[@jacob-2271]

That passes the sniff test. Lots of tracking stuff in the game tracks worse when it has higher projectile speed because I'm assuming tracking can only apply so much steer per second and if its moving faster its relatively less steering per meter it is travelling. If that makes any sense

[@unusualscyra]

@@jacob-2271 yeah this is the case with most tracking weapons, same can be a problem with the cedo alt fire if you use the galvanized acceleration mod making them fly a lot more straight rather then home since they don't have enough tracking strength to overcome the speed they fly at. as for me, i use a rank 0 whirlwind on the falcor to gain a bit of flight speed (and max range) but still keeps the tracking good

[@ArcHameris]

​@@jacob-2271half mod upgrade do good.. last 3 pips are for xoris

[@uberwarlocker]

Sheeeit Azn, just use the hate incarnon and get the two 60/60's for blast mixing, and the 90% electricity mod. If you're feeling spicy, you could get a fairly cheap hate riven with cd elec with a third positive and neg stat pretty cheap. Slot in melee influence and walk around using light attacks, i've went to level-cap cascade with this build. i'm glad you're shining light on elec/blast-fluence though, not enough people believe in it.

[@dumbdev9795]

ive been running a gas melee and negative heavy attack efficiency riven on falcor for quite some time. its just a goated weapon

[@juniisenpai3777]

My brain got cooked. Thankyou for that

[@Darthmufin]

Shit, he talked about the falcor. Hopefully DE does not watch this video

[@johnnybannerman6032]

Love the video man, btw are you thinking of doing a new companion rework video?

[@thedlc1233]

Just wanted to let you know the chapters are set to your previous build video for gyre

[@Aznvasions]

Thanks, fixed

[@Dishinshoryuken]

What the chuck? Went to get a drink to watch your video during the Intro....came back to have a Peppa Pig full episode saying "Skip" playing....

[@VertietRyper]

Couldn't you do this with the Duviri polearm? It has innate blast with the heavy attack and works swimmingly with C-O and the Elementalist mod but also it makes Tennokai a pretty funny mechanic; I used this thing on the first week EDA came out on Garuda and it's borderline nuclear.

[@someenthusiast]

Ah... So this is why sampotes shreds demolyst

[@Ashthefox6451]

Would this also work with the Amphis with its innate electric slam? It doesn't have the best stats, but it has a 1.5 riven disposition. Or what about the Sydon/Vaykor Sydon because those have a forced blast proc on slams with 1.35/1.3 riv disp respectively and with better stats. I feel like they could likely work just not hold up as well to the weapons you presented :0

[@TiredDoktor6391]

And so the countdown begins

[@xslite300]

it began a while ago

[@TiredDoktor6391]

@xslite300 Well, when someone like azn -who DE doesn't really have good relationships with- puts it on a spotlight, then thats when the countdown ACTUALLY begins

[@youraverageguy4930]

​​@@TiredDoktor6391 DE has repeatedly said that they only nerf things nowadays if something is either intrusive to other player's gameplay or allows afk gameplay. Even if this setup is intrusive to other people's gameplay, most Warframe players nowadays are too dumb to use anything other than Slamkong (yes, even after the nerf). Melee Influence + Blast + Xata is strong, but they're not as intrusive as other nuke setups, and a lot of people would rather kick a puppy than letting go of the easy meta and learn how to use Lavos.

[@beegyoshi1685]

​@@TiredDoktor6391 he doesn't have a good relationship with DE ? Why ?

[@TiredDoktor6391]

@@youraverageguy4930 Counter argument: melee afflictions got nerfed this update despite not being afk or disruptive like influence is.

[@thatsmadcuzz2234]

Yes this was 100% why I kept my xoris riven just for this moment

[@joonashannila8751]

Azn you should probably read again what things cause forced procs on Falcor.. It very much does force proc electric on the heavy explosion.

[@Holocause-]

Can you do this kind of setup using non-lavos sampotes?

[@Casper-qs7oy]

I'm just curious why isn't no one mentioning Volt as a melee influence frame? shock trooper gives any melee electricity and Volts 2nd gives att speed and 4th and can be anything you want, roar, nourish or xata's. When i'm using it, it feels so OP. I'm just thinking am i missing something big about Lavos for you to be using him over Volt?

[@Aznvasions]

@@Casper-qs7oy volt is also a very good frame for influence stuff. Lavos has force procs from his augment, volt doesn’t, and the elec does combine with other elements, which is only a minor issue, and can save slots on build.

[@Casper-qs7oy]

@@Aznvasions I agree that the electricity combine is bad but do you really need anything than viral and 300% shock trooper? Maybe 1/10 hits wont proc elec but because of the att speed you wont even notice when it doesnt proc.

[@CaseyGray58]

ok this makes 3 times ive heard different things about Arachne, I was told the last time its only for primary damage?

[@noahedenborg4221]

ok so heres the truth it only effects PROJECTILES stuff like guns but also melee projectiles like contagion tenet shield

[@bruhsberry1630]

Kullervo is a bit different tho, he doesn't need melee influence, or weapon mods in general

[@vidjoegammer]

Does Toxic Lash work the same way as Xata's whisper on these set ups?

[@noahedenborg4221]

no

[@rudycastillo4150]

Whats better volatile rebound or volatile blast mod

[@Aznvasions]

Blast for heavy detonate builds. Rebound for bounce builds

[@RipperMatricus]

@@Aznvasions yeah thx for this tip on the falcor bouncing type (use the mod volatile rebound! ), it is actually better, and yes do not use whirlwind, use the free tennokai mod as u said. i also wondered when is it time to let go of the mod power throw and your reasoning with one of those 3 new galva mods also seems right, iow the same what i experienced on the falcor bounce build with much combo power, not the heavy detonate style ( madurai or naramon: pick your poison ) - good stuff

[@Ghost_2552]

yo what glyph is that for your augment baruuk and sickening selections i want it haha and is it still available?

[@d.p.skoushik8930]

will you try melee influence zenistar with new galvanized mods? I wis to try it but I need to still wait for a month to get it. And I also want to know the interactions with melee vortex on how it might work

[@unusualscyra]

from my testing with melee vortex, it still feels like it lacks damage for any meaningfull amount, making the pull trigger hard to achieve. As for running it with influence, it does fair a decent bit better for higher tiers and the galvanized reflex gives you a good 60-80 or so seconds of duration on it, but still mostly seems alright for priming but it has a massive aoe for priming uses

[@fredf96]

Hope Lavos Prime comes early in 2025...

[@noahedenborg4221]

Well after xaku lavos should be next and I'd guess around February or may

[@specimendelta]

After xaku, there will be 2 females, so lavos unfortunately won't be coming for another 9 months

[@noahedenborg4221]

@@specimendelta well yareli or xaku was suppose to come out when sevagoth prime came out but they skipped some frames so it could be any frame after xaku

[@specimendelta]

@@noahedenborg4221 was actually supposed to be xaku then lavos. Sevagoth being thrown in out of order screwed lavos. They went out of order with him, but still have never broken the "2 male, 2 female" release cycle

[@noahedenborg4221]

@@specimendelta i mean they did release garuda early aswell

[@freshtodef123456789]

I want to make the Korumm good I think this has me in the right direction but I still need to mess around with it

[@Companion-builds]

So the glaive that makes maggots i have a riven for it. Is it worth anything

[@attrition71]

Save it. Infested lich is coming out with that glaive

[@gbossman2]

I love my pathocyst w/ riven. It's real good and allows a lot of different builds. If you get a crit chance riven you can make a monstrous Melee Duplicate build

[@macobus6743]

1:44 bro that is NOT the only reason why melee influence is so powerful

[@AMV_KINGDOM_mv]

Yes and no it's a major reason ie roar triple dips giving 300% more damage

[@karatekhi]

How about gyre with a similar build?

[@noahedenborg4221]

but why gyre exactly

[@sadpug9398]

All this blast influence + Xata's whisper with faction mod triple and quadruple dip is such a waste of brainpower. You may check my Ash void cascade level cap video. Flacor + Nourish is enough to delete an entire room even on level cap

[@KorpsyKloun]

Because it's just stupid fun and yeah there's easier setups but there's other stuff that's fun and viable too.

[@curtisbrown6604]

Xata still good with Exalted Blade?

[@lucasribas4664]

Wait, so this work with tenet melee weapons too?

[@noahedenborg4221]

yes but also no

[@lucasribas4664]

@@noahedenborg4221 Elaborate please

[@thesamyouell]

Titania has an unintended glitch with melee influence and her exalteds . You can proc influence indefinitely and it applies to dex pixia. There’s some busted builds out there

[@Aznvasions]

@@thesamyouell this can actually be done for certain other frames as well. The Titania method has only been brought up recently in the spotlight, but this bug has more ways of surfacing.

[@Always.Smarter]

arca titron?

[@noahedenborg4221]

Hmm yes interesting lol the way you said volatile

[@lickilicky5288]

im wondering whats going on with the chapter names, wrong video perchance?

[@Aznvasions]

Fixed, description was double pasted with both timestamps lol

[@A_Game_Zone]

I'm finally willing to use faction mods

[@joelmanzo7995]

Bro, I got 4 prova rivens in a row and dissolved them all

[@Dog-bc1lz]

wish this game had some actual hard and rewarding content...

[@susabove]

Pretty sure falcor has forced electricity proc on heavy detonation

[@ByteBitson]

yes but it also has it on bounce, unlike xoris

[@KorpsyKloun]

On full charge Falcor forces electric procs too so it makes rebound builds viable and spread status to a greater degree.

[@lorisgesualdi7363]

🎉🎉

[@werksus4821]

Very sad dmg results, not killing with low combo on falcor = not killing with max combo at all at higher levels. And also u forgot arca titron.

[@noahedenborg4221]

no he did not cus most players already know about it these not many know of

[@haloecake1181]

Fire as always 🦾

[@loafofbread9400]

Please stop covering the falcor, you have to gate keep it and make people pay 500p for glaive prime rivens

[@xuerian]

Meanwhile I'm just using a plain 2x detonation influence falcor and it's just fine Guess I don't level cap

[@generalrexgresh]

i cant ever bring myself to play at this level its too complex and ruins the enjoyment of just shooting things.

[@meivh]

absolutexdd

[@MrCavonta]

Thumbs down because you didn't actually show any korumn gameplay or building

[@jordanmcminn998]

Why you gotta become click bait.

[@noahedenborg4221]

ok but wheres the bait

[@jordanmcminn998]

@noahedenborg4221 ok how is the title not click bait.

[@noahedenborg4221]

@@jordanmcminn998 answer me this WHAT IS THE BAIT EXACTLY

[@GianMarcoPagano-yp4kb]

First (?)

[@souleater4242564kodd]

Useless amounts of damage when you could mod for more fun QOL but you mentioning banes already made me quit out Enjoy the view

[@nytrovt]

What a useless comment. This is a channel about maximizing damage yet you complain about Az showcasing a build doing that. I find it funny when people complain on channels that do this type of content. Don't like it, don't watch.

[@bigmemer4398]

Then why are you even looking up max dps videos Do your fun QoL builds and shut the fuck up

[@Shadybornsinner]

People who complain about banes have low iq’s… it’s okay to not use them but to complain on a media platform about it just cause your too lazy to make a second loadout just lets everyone know you need to as the kids say “get gud”