B/W Allies $25 “Budget” Standard Deck Tech with TCGplayer Pricing - Battle for Zendikar - MTG!

[@Jober1992]

I actually really like the price integration in the video itself. It makes it really easy to price out a deck, and it really helps with people who would be only looking to pick up a few of the cards that they might need. All in all, a great idea and I hope that you guys stick wtih it!

[@RayDai_thecpum_bacon]

7:15 did he really just use "the bee's knees?"... Love it

[@TheManaSource]

+Ray Dai ;)

[@TheManaSource]

Remember, if you want the deck list, you can check it out right here! bit.ly/1Ia1kKd

[@Bradyoungbass]

Make it mardu and play outnumber. Value.

[@Qutut]

+Bradford Young Also, Munda Ambush Leader is great in this deck i think, being able to Filter for Allies is very nice.

[@Boozamooz]

+TheManaSource Why didn't you put Rally the Ancestors in this Deck? Look at mtg goldfish's most recent budget standard deck. It's insane

[@TheFlam93]

+TheManaSource Thank you so much for yet another amazing deck tech, as always your true passion for MTG is always appreciated, just finished building my b/w allies deck, just need a Gideon or two to finish it off! Happy Holidays Wedge!

[@Atmapalazzo]

+Boozamooz I believe that since the deck is trying to be more aggro than combo, it doesn't want to use too many big game ending spells, since we only use two march from the tomb.

[@Constant_Threat]

Shambling Vent should probably be in there too. At least 2 of them. Being able to put +1/+1 counters on the vent itself via the serene steward seems pretty good.

[@TheAudioInjection]

Love this deck! I've been playing it with a splash of Mardu red for Munda and painful truth. I play it now with Gideon and Drana and a Ob Nixilis. Also play it with Bloodbound vampire which is pretty solid, too. Totally stoked to see this deck-tech. Good stuff.

[@Minipolce]

I didn't think the TCG Player integration was too obtrusive. If it can help bring revenue and inspire you folks to do more deck techs, I'm all for it. However, one thing that I would like to change is the lack of decklists. A budget decklist and maybe also an upgraded decklist would make considering the deck easier. Not that I can't do this myself, but it would make things easier.

[@chaos5896]

DO THIS MORE!!! when it comes to watching a deck tech, i think its good to have the price of each card shown as you talk, and TCG mid is probably used by most players

[@arsminecraft]

I run a version of this deck that goes all-in on the life drain. So, out go the envoys, healers and bladewhirls. In comes painful truths, unified front and retreat to emerias. Also, the land base includes 4 evolving wilds (instead of caves of koilos), a forest and a mountain (for converge). 12 fetch lands means tons of retreat triggers that make more allies (even on opponent's turns) to broaden the board, make chump blockers and drain life. I also have a copy of ruinous path main decked because it's hilarious when awakened.

[@Gdude1231]

I love allies. I've been playing a R/w build that uses munda to dig for resolute blademaster to kill them, but I've been thinking of adding black to it as well.

[@Hush99]

Glad you got the sponsor dude! I've been using Tcg since you mentioned them in a past video.

[@ryanrosendahl1088]

I will have to let you know on Friday after FNM how this deck works, I've been playing a modified version of this deck which includes Hero of Goma-Fada for the indestructible effect. I feel like there are very few decks(even tho most of the creatures in this deck are 2/1, 1/2, 2/2, 2/3 or whatever) in standard that can actually overcome this deck if you play the cards in the right order and your draws are good. Also, since OGW, what do you think about running a playset of Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim? I'm going to be running a playset of her for the first time in my B/W Ally deck and even tho she's not an ally, she's ridiculously powerful in her own and even, it seems, in the standard-legal B/W Ally deck. Any thoughts you'd like to share with me on this b4 FNM?

[@chaosmittens]

I like that you put the list ready to click and buy. Much move convenient that just saying, "oh and by the way you can buy them here." Super Cool. Like.

[@jonathanemontgomery]

I think the TCG integration is cool. There's no downside, and it makes it easier to get the whole list discussed in the video IMO.

[@rockstar212121]

I made a similar deck but with a slightly higher budget. I made a B/W ally control that was pretty fun. Used the healer, cutthroat, and emissary along with retreat to emeria and 2 Gideions (pretty much the whole cost of the deck) to generate those lovely ally tokens. Duress, despise, and pacifism were my control cards. Try to get rid of the threat before it had a chance to come into play. I think I'm pretty much just missing my encircling fissures to fog any damage I didn't want to deal with. I've since made it a little more aggro by sizing down some of the control for captain's claws, stoneforge masterworks, and stonehaven outfitter. Pretty fun casual deck and only spent about $15 tops for everything other than the two Gideions. This deck has been slaying my Vizkopa Loop deck which was probably my best deck until now. Little hard to say though since I typically don't care about my life on my VIz deck but with the drain from the emissary and healer I can't really afford to cast read the bones back to back anymore

[@D4NIELCHU]

I personally love adding the Archangel of Tithes. They have to pay to attack and block, and it drives removal away from your emissaries, gideons and Dranas

[@GrimValkyr13]

Do you think you could do a blue/black eldrazi ingest deck, pls?

[@ireqgaming]

I have a buddy who runs that. icy blast helps him win way too many games.

[@aarlavaan]

I did a draft tourney a couple of months back and I ran black/white ally and it did fairly well. I didn't have everything that I needed but I saw that the deck had a ton of potential. :) lots of fun to play with.

[@laylaczimmer]

I really liked the integration with tcgplayer , and i wish you guys cover more Budget Standard decks, keep up the good job :D

[@noahyardley5355]

I've been thinking about putting 4 Valorous Stance in the main board for my Mardu allies because it gets rid of Siege Rhino, you can respond to your opponent combo-ing off in Atarka red with Become Immense and Temur Battle-Rage, and the worst thing that happens if it resolves is you save one of your creatures from removal or save it in combat if you need it. Can't really go wrong with it.

[@DrToadstoolSR]

I Have been using TCGplayer for ordering singles for a long time, Love the integration into the video! would love to see some legacy deck techs even though they wouldn't necessarily be "budget"

[@lewispatton6550]

As someone who has used tcgplayer before watching this channel...he speaks the truth. I always recommend it to friends

[@rockwarlock9573]

Made something like that, but put in Bloodbond vampire over Lantern scout. Higher on the curve, but with a Kalastria Healer on the field it enters as a 4/4 that gets bigger each ally even without the steward.

[@purpleboye_]

My friend made a five color ally deck at prerelease and still uses it. It usually beats us with brute force after aggravating us with sadistic orzhov shenanigans.

[@sarahmundell1053]

I think that it may just be me but I like the idea of using half of a march from the tomb on a chasm guide

[@1AbsoluteZERO]

Great video! Wedge I am building this deck. It looks really fun and it seems like a good deck to get into standard with (I'm new to the standard format). So what cards would you consider removing from the deck if you included the Gideons and Dranas?

[@ressapanda8439]

What about Shambling Vent ? it fits the lifegain theme and provide a way to dump your unused mana on the later turns. Also, Retreat to Emeria/Hagra could be interesting to add if you are aiming for a slower version of the deck.

[@thatguyartist6321]

I remember my allys having Double strike, First Strike, Menece, Lifelink, Vigilance, Indestructable, and Haste :)

[@MasonzeroDigitalWorks]

My B/W allies deck is pretty similar, but I run Felidar Sovereign and some other life gain cards. I also like to run a couple copies of Bloodbond Vampire (in place of Serene Steward for counters) because they can get huge thanks to Kalastria Healer and Zulaport Cutthroat. Retreat to Emeria is also nice to get more ally triggers sometimes. Ondu Rising and Healing Hands are some decent lifegain cards as well that come with nice secondary effects. I also threw in a Drana Liberator of Malakir because she is a nice ally with a nice ability to pump up everything to make lifelink from the Lantern Scout or Ondu Rising even better! Malakir Familiar works nicely for the life gain as well and gives you some guys in the air. Sadly its not an ally! Otherwise, I agree with every card in this deck. March From The Tomb is so underrated, but its brutal in an ally deck!

[@joshuawilliams994]

I'd love to see you splash some red into this deck tech. I feel like the rally (haste and double strike creatures) could make it even more offensive. Double strike is also good for the late game. Also, if you integrate red to make it Jeskai instead of Orzhov, you could add a couple of Mardus

[@khalidmubarak3879]

Ive been brewing with a similar sort of deck, its nice, im considering the sorcery speed heroes downfall and the relevent retreats for ally trigger, life drain, and power boosts on landfall

[@docterfantazmo]

I'd probably add a few Blood Bound Vamps, they're a little mana-pricey/slow but they can avalanche into something crazy.

[@ilikecheeselollol]

I'm playing an abzan variant with tajuru stalwart and warcaller. along with veteran warleader. the bigger bodies really help with keeping yourself alive and closing out the game

[@udoomu6183]

I'd maybe recommend Malakir Familiar since think about a turn: Gain one from the emissary play down an ally maybe, trigger 2 kalastria healers gain another two and look at that you swing with a 5/4 flying deathtouch

[@the404tavern]

+Themanasource good video! Loved the TCG player include, more modern and budget is always good start!

[@Dalamr]

woohoo! another budget build to experiment on. thanks, Wedge!

[@MrHolyRedemption]

I could easily see this in a mardu deck, adding crackling doom and such. Also would love to see a U/R eldrazi type of deck, but from seeing some of the new spoilers it may only be a thing after the next set drops.

[@Bernergy]

I like Bloodbond Vampire. With 12 Cards that trigger its ability, some even multiple times is nice. And Felidar Sovereign is a nice touch as we'll. That makes it a bit slower, but I like it :D

[@thenerdyeel3092]

brought it up and it came out to right at $22. I'm definitely treating myself to this as a Christmas present.

[@SPANNERDETH]

Ive been playingpretty much exactly the same deck (with 2 drana's) the past couple of months and it is really fun to play. I even pulled out a 1-1-0 at modern!

[@theheroclixvillian]

Love it all wedge. U did a great job. I thought of building something like this along the lines. For people that can't afford it . I would suggest throwing in Makindi Patrol instead of the lantern scout. And for lands i would also suggest a couple sandstone bridges because of that extra +1/+1 and vigilance and if you think about it since there are alot of 1 and 2 drops these lands won't slow you down. And you will get a good hit early in game. I actually built a boros ally deck. I can't wait to see what wizards prints in the next set ally wise. Maybe more ally color options will open up for other players

[@Bladius_]

+Ian Burns (The Asylum Collector) Vigilence is pretty bad in "aggro" decks. It looks good on paper but once you try it it's just subpar, I tried it in my BW warrior deck and it didn't do anything. You could just gain a ton of life, plus this deck is a lifegain deck and scout is the best ally for the job it can't really be taken out.

[@TekkenShazam]

Super excited to try this out. Been wanting to play allies for a while now haha. Now my only hope is for a 5 color ally commander in the future. Or at least 4 color ally.

[@HardWorkingFamilyMan]

TCG Player what a combo with TheManaSource. Definitely will enjoy the option of deck ordering in a easy button like this especially with occasional updates on what the newest and best cards are in the new standard format.

[@EdenDarvex]

TCG player price input was a nice change. Shows me what I would actually pay to play. Thanks!

[@DuskYagami]

I think Emeria Retreat is essential for any Budget Ally deck with white. It basically turns a useless land drop into a Rally trigger.

[@AndroidJdm]

First of all, i LOVE TcgPlayer! It's an amazing site, i get most of my singles there if my lgs doesn't have what i'm looking for. The price integration is a huge plus! If i was looking for an "upgrade" for the deck i'd swap Caves of Koilos for Shambling Vents

[@TheBieza]

Hey so I've been trying to make a budget standard deck for a while now and since I just picked magic up (after a LONG break) during the release of BFZ I have most of these cards. If I were able to upgrade the deck slightly with adding 2 drana's (only have 2) and one giddeon (only have one) would throwing a Sorin solemn visitor in there be any good? Also Shambling vents? Retreat to Emeria/Hagra? lastly Bloodbond vampire?

[@Xearodeath]

why not add a few smoldering marshes with your fetches, i think splash red and use chasm guides, the haste can be a deadly addition when you wanna finish, also it allows you to run kolagans command and crackling doom

[@joshsemmes6597]

I really like the prices but also I think at the end u should have a picture of the decklist so u could just screenshot it with ur phone... this helps if ud like to go to a local store and buy cards

[@Ziggygunner]

i like the price thing that you were doing. honestly i would love to see a little more Tiny Leaders, pun not intended, to be honest. i just wish there was more push into that format.

[@StealthSuitStanley]

Really like the TCGPlayer pricing and link. Keep it up. Will you try to build a Villainous Wealth deck?

[@jordanrager9561]

Yeah I love tcg I'm building that snake edh deck and u got a gaea's cradle cheap I can't wait for it to get here

[@spooch89]

price integration is awesomely awesome please do this forever

[@thedeadlysun13]

I'm running kalastria nightwatch in mine, works very well

[@R3ach4Th3Sky]

I like the prices in the video because it saves me time. Keep up the good work!

[@andycic.544]

Would you ever consider adding cliffhaven vampire from oath of the gatewatch to this deck? If so what would you swap out and how many would you put in?

[@trondragon44]

Any chance of getting an updated version of this with Oath of the Gatewatch out now?

[@sugardan1]

why no bloodbond vampire? harsh sustenance for a removal? works well because you have a lot of creatures and again triggers life gain

[@ClampEEGEE]

I really like the integration with TCG player prices, but for budget decks the this it doesn't work too amazingly, since the cart optimizer doesn't seem to care that the site doesn't let it ship if the price for each seller is less than $1, and it doesn't come up to enough to do TCGPlayer Direct shipping.

[@Eeveesevolutions]

I think the best part about this is that it can only get better with Oath of the Gatewatch

[@SheffieldsPark]

I love TCG Player. I don't shop anywhere else. They always list the best price first, so there's no need to haggle, it's just wonderful. And Cape Fear Games sends you these little Goblin tokens with every purchase. I fracking love them. : ) I'll never go back to Cool Stuff Inc or StarCityGames again. : )

[@SeasOfCheese929]

Thoughts on Bloodbond Vampire? It gets pretty big with all the life gain, but it is expensive at 4 mana....

[@War4HimMeadia]

Love the price integration

[@jedi_mario]

Like the TCG integration. Enjoyed the deck.

[@thedandyman4365]

What would your opinion be for Hero of Goma Fada? He may be able to run it if you were to be more agrressive.

[@phillipstevens8937]

been running this deck since release, and pre release deck was like it, only exception no kor bladewhirlers I play bloodbond vampire, and no lantern scouts I use a Drana and Lilliana, works quite well, between Lilliana and zulaport, killing your things is a bad idea for opponent

[@DonyMakeCry]

Thanks for the idea!

[@LDM393]

this could be a good shell for the leaked bw kor, if it actually a thing. Also, no felidar soverign (the life cat) for an alt win con for top of the curve?

[@Bladius_]

You could look to jam 1-2 Sorin while he's still around also, at least worth testing.

[@thesleepyviking4126]

Has this rotated already?! Sorry I've never tried standard before and this deck's my first attempt to enter the format.Would love an answer! Thanks!

[@angelomilazzo770]

allies are awesome, honestly i've wanted to build a deck with them for a while.

[@sammiller8681]

+TheManaSource I'm looking for a non-aggro style budget (preferably extreme budget like

[@Romualdos666]

Price on every card is really good way to get sponsors without being annoying. Well done. Keep it up. Consider siding up with European biggest online card market too. For those of us that don't use TCG

[@TheManaSource]

+Romualdos666 Working on this now :)

[@zachroyer1658]

I think I might splash red in for Butcher of the Hord.

[@gibbage1]

Think splashing green for CoCo would be good?

[@thesleepyviking4126]

Would this deck be better if you added in a couple shambling vent?

[@Roy_Godiksen]

The TCG addition is a great idea. Helps everyone. Hurts no one. Except other card dealers. But what can you do? People go where it's most convenient...

[@flamaster1757]

The reason he is running March over Rally is that this deck is messed focused on rally triggers, so having them stay on the battlefield is superior

[@chrisgallo2236]

Use Captain's Claws... A new creature and rally trigger every turn in addition to what you play.

[@filipkevely]

Great partnership - very convenient. I wonder how are their international (EU) shipping rates.

[@Bernergy]

For EU I recommend MKM (Magiccardmarket) :)

[@filipkevely]

Bernergy Hm, an user-to-user trade site. A bit different from tcgplayer then, a bit fiddlier to build a deck from 0 but -I suppose- potentially cheaper, too. Thanks for the tip!

[@geesegoose6174]

Could hero of goma fada be a card that you could implement into a side board or even main?

[@kuru9157]

i liked that you showed the prices to us

[@BigScienceDP]

Been wishing you'd do this (list tcg prices)

[@JoshuAnthony007]

if you want to make the expensive version, what would you pull out to add the upgrade?

[@bencampsall8563]

I'm fairly new to MTG and I was wondering if you could do a budget mill deck. I've played with my friend's mill deck and I had so much fun playing it (even if I lose most of my games xD). I want to make my own mill deck that's budget, could you help?

[@Feeb5]

I've played this in draft before and it gets INSANE. I've had 40 plus life, in a DRAFT

[@SkilledPepper]

Hey Wedge what do I replace for Drana and Gideon?

[@russelldavies160]

I know you my of said it before but for all of us in the uk what's the best site as we work in £ not $

[@pedestrianme]

The mtgo triggers on serene steward are incredibly aggravating.

[@dexgengaming2630]

what about shambling vents

[@S2the216]

what would you take out to put the play set of goz in?

[@steelWindAlchemist]

Gideon is running just over $20. The rest of the 59 cards are running $5 total?

[@vanilladragonseal5267]

You should do a artifact green infenct deck tech

[@bobharvey6957]

Interesting vidéo but if i have a friend having a white red ally Deck whit only ally giving capacities, which means That at some point if he isn't stopped his créatures will have first Strike double Strike life-link ...

[@gigibugigi8384]

i love so much to listen you speaking man

[@larryhalsey5322]

No mention to Shambling Vent?

[@Cruzifix13]

Yes Finally! Thanks Wedge :)

[@crimegay]

how to make this deck non budget. what do i take out for gideons and drana?

[@EmersonJ_]

tcg hype! love the prices in the video

[@nathang7601]

I'd change it to mardu green ally's including coco and firemantle mage making it more aggressive and versatile

[@ImEmaRose]

Serene is not that powerfull, sometimes the W is not available. I run 3 and also 2 bloodbond vampire, wich just grows multiple times a turn (usually it gets to 11/11 or more). Also: Kor Castigator is a great option if the meta is eldrazi based. Palace siege and retreat to emeria are good enchantments here. The "dont sacrifice your creatures" statement, is IMO, wrong...we have to trust March will come soon enough. AND if you have Cutthroat out, you add lots of value to your creatures (triggers Serene and bloodbond) when they are kinda useless (when the board state is against us, having an expedition envoy triggering a Lantern scout for no reason is useless). I run this deck and i love it, but i really feel most of the times i desperately need a gideon to trigger and maintaining the pressure. Anyway thanks for the video :D