Back to Rim Brakes and Steel? The UCI Illegal upgrades

[@wokex]

The EE brakes are too damn fine to swap out. :D they look sick on that bike, especially together with the headset. Keep 'em!

[@klein-concept]

@@wokex thank you. Will keep them 🤜🤛

[@logojones96]

EE brakes are always my preference, braking and weight is amazing.

[@klein-concept]

Thank you. Think will keep them. Lets see what to do with the DA ones.

[@chicoy12]

@@klein-concept i've been looking at these EE brakes, i have assymetrical tiaigra brakes, there are symmetrical 105 dual pivot brakes but ive heard they almost have no advantages from tiagra assymetrical brakes. are the EE brakes much better in terms of braking performance?

[@chicoy12]

i've been looking at these EE brakes, i have assymetrical tiaigra brakes, there are symmetrical 105 dual pivot brakes but ive heard they almost have no advantages from tiagra assymetrical brakes. are the EE brakes much better in terms of braking performance?

[@klein-concept]

​@@chicoy12I dont think the braking performance is better. Its mainly the weight that makes them stand out.

[@sbccbc7471]

​@@chicoy12 Due to the eeBrakes not having a single soft part on it at all, like a bumper of some sort to protect the frame should the bike steer all the way, I'll only go for Shimano rim brakes with SLR-EV (symmetrical dual-pivot structure).

[@kamolhengkiatisak1527]

I am not that rich, will continue to ride old second/third hand Panasonic steel frame bike from Japan costing about $200 bought 20 years ago in Thailand. It is about 12 kg. So much fun riding a heavy, steady bike on flat terrain. Steel is real!

[@klein-concept]

Doesnt need to be expensive. Your bike has a way better story than any of mine have and on the flats there is no big need for weight tuning anyways 🫶

[@rajendrabareto8065]

My old steel bike is only 9.5kg. Got a used one a month ago. I guess it is about 1980’s

[@klein-concept]

​@@rajendrabareto8065Lovely. Hope you enjoy the ride 🤜🤛

[@rajendrabareto8065]

@@klein-conceptyes it’s good. But of more terrains here so modded it from 12s to 16s.

[@klein-concept]

@@rajendrabareto8065 hehe how did you do that?

[@jameswillemsen2609]

100% keep the EE brakes. even if its purely because they look sick

[@klein-concept]

Hehe its form over function on that bike anyways ... I mean on any bike 😂😂

[@jameswillemsen2609]

@@klein-concept if bikes aren't pretty what is even the point 🤷

[@klein-concept]

Thats what i think as well 🫣

[@JamesLerem]

Awesome looking bike! As for the brake swap 🙅 The aesthetics are Killer the way it is!!!

[@klein-concept]

@@JamesLerem thanks a lot 🫶

[@matthewavignonpetersen5893]

EE brakes for the win. Have some on my bike and they're incredible - they are very additive to your UCI-illegal goals and aesthetics. Great video as always!

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot mate. What bike are you having them on? 🤜🤛

[@matthewavignonpetersen5893]

@@klein-concept 2020 Canyon Aeroad CF SLX rim brake frame. Princeton Wake 6560 wheels, Red eTap groupset, similar ultra light AliExpress saddle. Comes in at 6.5kg. Bike is way faster than I am! 😬

[@klein-concept]

@matthewavignonpetersen5893 that is an impressive weight for a crazy aero bike. Love it 🫶

[@matthewavignonpetersen5893]

​@@klein-concept So, back in late 2020 / early 2021, I really wanted the new Aeroad (integrated cockpit, discs, etc.) But that was the height of the COVID supply chain crisis, and at least here in the US, they were impossible to get from Canyon. So instead I bought a 2020, which was the final year of the last generation, in rim brake form. And I'm so glad I did because even though I didn't realize it at the time, this thing is the last of its kind - an aero AF, super light, stiff thoroughbred racer with a brutally slammed geometry (made for pros, not dentists) that yields absolutely nothing. Nowadays, in a sea of integrated disc brake bikes, this thing has so much character - and it defies the logic that you must choose between aero and lightweight (but can't have both without resorting to exotic weight weenie kit.) Now ... I just have to get some legs that can do this thing justice!

[@klein-concept]

@@matthewavignonpetersen5893 so good for you that the disc version was not in stock. You really have a diamond there. Respect 🤜🤛

[@ruudboek]

From what i researched, EE brakes are the only really lightweight brakes that do not compromise on braking power. Personally i would keep them, i also think they compliment the headset color. If you are going for the Dura Aces brakes, do it only if they have significantly more braking power.

[@klein-concept]

@@ruudboek thank you. I think i will keep them on 🤜🤛

[@sbccbc7471]

Yes. Ciamillo's rim brakes simply flex on hard braking, too little material to do its job properly.

[@AB-fh9zh]

Gorgeous bike. And while I love DA, those EE brakes look perfect on it.

[@klein-concept]

@@AB-fh9zh thank you. Will keep them 🤜🤛

[@DaccordiCycles]

great job! 👏👏👏

[@klein-concept]

@@DaccordiCycles thank you 🫶

[@rtmrshr]

EE brakes for sure! It’s looks nice and also matching with a headset color. I also think u should change ur seatpost clamp to the same color

[@klein-concept]

@@rtmrshr thank you and good idea about the clamp but the darimo one is only 4g 🫣

[@SamuelBlackMetalRider]

Superb retro modern superlight build, love it.

[@klein-concept]

@@SamuelBlackMetalRider thanks a lot 🫶

[@SamuelBlackMetalRider]

@@klein-concept will do a superlight climbing rim brake 11s beauty soon! In the meantime since we’re talking retro/modern you can check my C50 ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJbRi2Cbd8t6fNUsi=eDD3p0kfTCaSgPdq

[@shannongraham7189]

Stick with the EE's - especially since you moved on from the DA crankset. Sweet ride and great video.

[@klein-concept]

@@shannongraham7189 thanks a lot 🫶

[@RobertRauchfuss]

Wow Homeboy! Thanks for pointing out these components ❤

[@klein-concept]

@@RobertRauchfuss hoffe hast dein rad schon zusammen für die after work rides ❤️

[@n22pdf]

100% keep EE brakes dude.. the brakes really enhance the look especially with the headset, if you switch them out to black it’s just another black bike 😢😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot. I will keep them on 🤜🤛

[@davehause8571]

Chapeau! Love Daccordi steel bikes.

[@klein-concept]

@@davehause8571 me too 🤜🤛

[@jaec6986]

Well done my friend~ I would go stick with EE brakes because they just look too good :) your seatpost and saddle looks very similar to mine what brand are they? Bike looks really good

[@klein-concept]

@@jaec6986 the seatpost is the Darimo T1 and the saddle is a cheap Kocevlo from Aliexpress 🤜🤛

[@jaec6986]

@@klein-concept Thank you for your reply seatpost looks sharp, I like it

[@klein-concept]

​@@jaec6986what combo are you riding?

[@donttouchthisatall]

would keep the EE-brakes. They fit nicely with the general look and match the headset. Cool pop of colour: Sidenote regarding weight savings: I know this would be considered "downgrading" in terms of tech, but using a aero-brake lever with a downtube shifter, would most likely shave some significant weight :) -. just a thought.

[@klein-concept]

Hehe thats a proper hack. I dont think i could go to a downtube shifter. But i like your way of thinking. 🤜🤛

[@jscalabre]

Nice!! You're making me want a steel frame now :D

[@klein-concept]

Get one. Its good fun 🫶

[@gaz5819]

Fit the dura ace and send me the ee set 😂 actually I think the ee brakes look stunning I'd keep them on

[@klein-concept]

Hahahahahaaha. Thank you. Will keep the ee ones on then 🫶

[@PatrickLino]

Great video kind sir!

[@klein-concept]

@@PatrickLino thanks a lot 🫶

[@brankoradic2749]

Like dr. Oliver Bridgewood says: "UCI has no jurisdiction here!" 😂 Bravo ona a superb build 👍🏻

[@klein-concept]

@@brankoradic2749 haha. So true. thanks a lot 🤜🤛

[@valmorell]

EE for the individuality. Every time.

[@klein-concept]

Also think i will keep them for that reason. 🫶

[@ABD5667]

The ee brakes are pretty and contrasting in colour and style to the rest of the bike. The dura brakes look sleek and matches the colour and style of the rest of the bike. Either way they look good although in different ways

[@klein-concept]

@ABD5667 thank you. Think i will keep the ee on for a while 🤜🤛

[@ChristopherWright-mc1fv]

Very interesting build. Retro but still able to cut it with the new stuff. I'm currently building up a Steel Standert Phadfinder (I'm sure you're familiar). Won't be as light as yours but will be sub 8kg (with pedals etc) Keep up the good work. Tschüss

[@klein-concept]

@@ChristopherWright-mc1fv love it. Also had a Pfadfinder for a while. Loved that bike. Wish you happy building 🤜🤛

[@cccpkingu]

EE-brakes look good. They belong on that bike.

[@klein-concept]

Will keep them 🤜🤛

[@ynslife]

suggestion: get a torque wrench that was no where near 40-45nm scary stuff can happen when sprinting

[@klein-concept]

I actually do have one. Will see how far off i ve been later 🤜🤛

[@montrose252]

Rim brakes for the win! I use Elite DRIVE 50V too. I would install the Dura Ace brakes for the black-on-black look.

[@klein-concept]

So simple 🫶

[@TheRokko66]

steel is real🥰 Both threads to the right = Italian BB. 6:27 ITA, Okay here it is

[@klein-concept]

@@TheRokko66 yes 🫶

[@e_n1984]

of all your great bikes, this one is the best looking , if it’s up to me i would gi for 38 carbon wheels depth and tpu inner tube, and i would stay with cc breaks if they are lighter

[@klein-concept]

@@e_n1984 thanks a lot. Im having a look at some lighter wheels actually. So maybe we can get this one even lighter 🤜🤛

[@EditioCastigata]

What kind of grease did you use? What’s in the bearings? Are they compatible?

[@klein-concept]

@@EditioCastigata its general thick bearing grease.

[@andipolles8694]

Absolutely EE brakes. You're using lightweight components trying to make as light as possible, swapping to dura ace that more heavy doesn't make sense. I think your bike is the lightest steel bike so far. Great job and thank you for sharing it to us!

[@klein-concept]

Yes i think i will keep them on. Thanks a lot 🫶

[@thegoodwheel]

Awesome, Michael! I am 50/50 on the brakes. An area to potentially drop some grams would be with Tubular wheelset like Zipp 202 or Easton SL... I know they aren't practical for many, but potentially 200 grams less. Well done👍🏾

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot. Looking into different wheels already 🫣

[@Bathi666]

Awesome video as always mate. Was wondering when you going to put this up!

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot 🤜🤛

[@jeremynorth]

|I think the |Dura |Ace brakes would compliment the overall look of this bike but as a concept a 6.5 kg bike with a steel frame is amazing so keep the EE's as a proof of concept. That is unless they feel less safe. I built up a sub 6 Kg bike in 2006 with a Scott CR1 SL frame and opted for Zero Gravity brakes. They were ok but I prefer the power of Campag super record.

[@klein-concept]

The ee brakes actually have surprisingly high power. Not as good as DA but have been good enough for some Mallorca descents 🫶

[@stibra101]

This bike needs proper tires! If looking for lightest and fastest tires go for Veloflex Record, 150 grams in 25c, normal version, no TLR crap. Not best puncture protection, but had no issues. Use Verdestein latex tubes for best feeling on the road. If looking for better puncture protection, close feeling, go for Wolfpack Cotton Race in 24 or 26 mm.

[@klein-concept]

Good idea. Was actually looking at the Wolfpack ones 🫣

[@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv]

150gm is WILD. Tires are the most impactful weight savings on the entire bike.

[@stibra101]

@@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv They do not last long, but feeling is incredible

[@frankieboy5859]

Why back? Ordered my #Stelbel with Campy SR groupset and matching rim brakes for a reason.

[@klein-concept]

Cause i was riding lots of disc brakes recently. Congrats on the Stelbel. They make really beautiful frames 🫶

[@CarlCole-i1w]

Dura Ace Rim brake calipers are great, comparison w/ ee-brakes is very interesting

[@klein-concept]

But keep ee i guess? Braking power is a bit lower but weight is way better.

[@stephenbrown590]

Put the front Dura Ace brake in and keep the EE rear. Braking power where you need it for minimal weight gain. 👍🏻

[@klein-concept]

@@stephenbrown590 best if both worlds 🤜🤛

[@javiersmith2216]

Are eebrakes cane creek or dia compe. I thought there was possibly some type of agreement between cc and dc.

[@sbccbc7471]

Cane Creek

[@markusseppala6547]

The EE brakes look good but the dura-ace ones are the best rim brakes ever made. Tough call but I would go with the dura-ace.

[@klein-concept]

Braking power over looks. Will still have to think about it 🤜🤛

[@MirceaCatalinPopescu]

Finally back to the real steel steeds. :D You can save more weight if you find a 10 speed sram red group. The lightest ever made. Also you can get some crazy light wheels - i know the elite drive 50 are light, but you can find lighter.

[@klein-concept]

Already looking at other wheels hehe 🫣

[@bobzuidema3560]

I would 100% keep the Cane Creek because they're lighter and better looking. Imagine adding to 6,5kgs and ending up with something that looks far less good, besides that the whole build is out of the ordinary, there is no reason to part from that theme with the brakes.

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot. Will keep the ee 🤜🤛

[@bengt_axle]

What is the best way to get lower gear range on a bike that has 28 as the largest cog in the back. I was thinking about putting a 46/30 up front (to ride in mountainous areas) to use with my campy 10 speed, being the most cost-effective way, but there don't seem to be a lot of 165mm carbon cranks for BSA. Not even the brand you feature here offers it. I guess I'm stuck with GRX.

[@klein-concept]

Did you have a look at Elilee?

[@poh7242]

the ee brakes looks very good with the headset but if the duraace is lighter and more powerful braking then ya you should swap it out

[@klein-concept]

@@poh7242 they are double the weight at least tho 🫣

[@cccpkingu]

Thermoplastic for the hoods?

[@klein-concept]

Hehe you mean swapping the rubber?

[@christosandreev6392]

Keep the eebrakes if you feel confident enough on the brakig power. I liked them on aluminium rims but on carbon they're not so confidence inspiring. In terms of looks they do add a little bit of colour to your setup. You might consider Conti GP5000 tyres transparrent verision to brake the monotony of black even more. I have a total black bike and it tents to be boring at times.

[@klein-concept]

Good idea with the tires. Might swap them out for new ones 🫶

[@chrisscott8362]

I would keep the ee brakes. They are more interesting on that frame. ❤😊

[@klein-concept]

@@chrisscott8362 also think so 🤜🤛

[@MZRBC]

Nice build! I wonder if you considered swapping out that beautiful but heavy Chris King headset for a lighter one from other manufacturers?

[@klein-concept]

@@MZRBC do you have one in mind that would safe significant g? 🤜🤛

[@MZRBC]

@@klein-concept with Extralite headset you would save 39g in total!

[@klein-concept]

@@MZRBC uh. That might be worth it. Will look at the headset. Thanks a lot 🫶

[@pieceofcake6987]

I would add some pedals 🤣

[@klein-concept]

I just put my socks on the cranks directly. More aero also due to not needing shoes 🫣😂😂

[@dioright]

9:00 when pausing try to use black white effect. it's make audience understand that pause was intentional and it's not a glitch

[@klein-concept]

@@dioright smart tip. Thanks a lot 🫶

[@riazpatel5296]

I just swapped out a set of TI blinged Ultegra versions of those DA brakes for a set of EE.

[@klein-concept]

And are you happy with it?

[@riazpatel5296]

@@klein-concept It is on an old Dogma 65.1 restoration, raw carbon and clear coat with subtle branding. That frame isn't the lightest but I like the shapes so component choice is key to getting it light. The gram saving those brakes make is like running one ultagra caliper! Braking performance is on par given the same campy red pads that I use and they look the part. I am trying a set of Swisstop yellows for comparison and they feel good, don't know if they feel better than the Campy reds but I cant tell any difference in the lever action. I will keep my Ultegras as a spare as they were very cheap and with Ti hardware they are about 13 grams heavier than the DA.

[@James-ld2jc]

Think I would change that saddle 😮

[@klein-concept]

Why? Its super comfy 🫶

[@James-ld2jc]

@klein-concept it doesn't look like it is! If it suits you, that's cool. I have my own preference - Charge Spoon. Otherwise superb bike

[@klein-concept]

@@James-ld2jc thanks a lot 🫶

[@superfoxbat]

keep the brake the way as it is unless durace is lighter

[@klein-concept]

Will keep the ee ones 🤜🤛

[@luisvalenzuela5132]

Nice video as usual and thanks for sharing. In my personal opinion the Dura-ace crankset looks waaaaaaaay sleeker on that set up than the new carbon one does, to the point that does not worth the save on weight. Going to the brake dilemma, without the Dura-ace crankset, doesn't make sense to install dura ace breaks on it, in my opinion does not match the look, however and since is your bike you can do as you wish!

[@klein-concept]

I would agree. I also prefer the look of the DA crankset but this project is all about weight. There will be a new bike coming soon with a DA setup tho 🤜🤛

[@truthseeker8483]

I vote EE brakes because they have some bling.....and maybe a Gold chain🙂

[@klein-concept]

I like the way you think. Gold chain could fit well 🫶

[@bwtms]

if braking power is the preference, i would recommend Campagnolo Super Record brakes, which are quite sexy! ;)

[@klein-concept]

Thank you but dont know if i would be able to mix major brands haha. But maybe time for a proper Campa build 🫶

[@stefanlucut]

Key word here is "plenty", plenty grease.

[@klein-concept]

@@stefanlucut fixing so many problems with lots of that golden goodness 🤌

[@alizfe1]

I love my rim brakes

[@klein-concept]

Me too 🫶

[@syindrome]

FYI Brisk Wheels make a wheelset that is about half the weight but similar price as Elite Wheels.

[@klein-concept]

Didnt know about them so far. These look impressive. Thank you for sharing 🤜🤛

[@comedyman112]

their Ultralight model (which you're talking about when saying half the weight) are actually double the price compared to Elite Wheels. stop spreading misinformation

[@klein-concept]

@@comedyman112 thats true. But still impressive wheels and i was not aware of them 🫣

[@syindrome]

@@comedyman112 The Ultralight wheelset is 70% more expensive, yes, but that is a very competitive price for a set that is half the weight. Remember that other options are more expensive and only shave a couple hundred grams off the elite wheel specs. So I would stand by the brisk wheels being a “similar price” since it is actually only 1.7x the cost but for a massive weight cut.

[@noobnoob2376]

how much did u pay for the crankset?

[@klein-concept]

Around 580 euro 🤜🤛

[@noobnoob2376]

@@klein-concept würde mich auf ein feedback nach "langzeit gebrauch" freuen habe dieses crankset in der messe gesehen.

[@klein-concept]

@@noobnoob2376 ich hatte die kurbel schon an meinem titanrad. Bisher bin ich sehr begeistert.

[@IevgeniiIegorushkov]

Rim brakes all the way!

[@klein-concept]

@@IevgeniiIegorushkov love them too 🫶

[@madyogi6164]

I would say go DuraAce, but it's a black bike and adding more black would make it boring/sad. Orange bits and pieces don't look that cool either. Again just an opinion (one like a hole in the a* - everyone has one). Cool that you've managed to stay below 7k. I've built carbon/aero frame based one lately and it's 7.5 kg (yes, rim brake as well). I wasn't aiming for weight, only for looks. Nice bike you have!

[@klein-concept]

@@madyogi6164 thanks a lot and congrats on the aero frame. 7.5 is amazing for anything aero shaped 🤜🤛

[@ihsheri7613]

Nice bike

[@klein-concept]

Thanks a lot 🫶

[@treyhorn5645]

Very nice❤

[@klein-concept]

Thank you 🫶

[@billkallas1762]

Is that an 11-25, or 12-25?

[@klein-concept]

@@billkallas1762 it is a 11-25 🤜🤛

[@billkallas1762]

@@klein-concept I used to poke fun with people who used a 28, or 30, and tell them that a 25 is a manly gear. In the late 90's, with 9 speed, I'd even ride with a 23.

[@klein-concept]

@@billkallas1762 on my other bike i m on a 11-32 😂😂😂

[@billkallas1762]

@@klein-concept I live in the second flattest State in the US.

[@klein-concept]

@@billkallas1762 hehe then no reason for anything over 25 😂😂😂

[@rand_kk]

eebrakes add character to the bike, do not change please :)

[@klein-concept]

Thank you. Will keep them 🤜🤛

[@alexanderkristiansen4539]

Keep the EE's on. Or even better: send them to me😂

[@klein-concept]

Hehe will keep them on 🤜🤛

[@daytch9485]

Very nice build , but I'd take a weight penalty for a saddle that's comfortable and would cut my femoral artery open in a crash

[@klein-concept]

But its actually very comfortable. Riding it on my Winspace as well 🫶

[@Ghostina1]

Kein Standard... ist doch das beste Bike zum Influenzen 😅😅😅

[@klein-concept]

@@Ghostina1 hehe dafür ist es hier 🫶

[@thakoharris]

Keep EE!!!!! 🎉

[@klein-concept]

@@thakoharris also think i will keep them 🤜🤛

[@cfinnoe]

Keep the EE brakes!!!

[@klein-concept]

I think so too 🤜🤛

[@WayneSmith-zx3tf]

Leave the brakes. You can't improve on perfection. Of course, you'll change 'em out at a later date because you can't help yourself.

[@klein-concept]

Hahahahahaha maybe 🫣

[@repiola174]

Thank you for the video! Cybrei start making some noice with their GP3. Maybe a small advice that I applied when I install my thm clavicula. You should add some Loctite 243 to your preload as you can’t apply too much torque. I see you have a darimo T1 seatpost. How does it feel? I heard it was very flexible. Enjoy your new crankset and keep the good work!

[@klein-concept]

@@repiola174 thank you and thanks a lot for the loctite tip. Will do so. The T1 is great. I actually like the bit of flex. It was a bit fragile in case you ve seen this in my previous videos where it developed a crack at the clamping area. But Darimo fixed it twice for free so now it seems all good.

[@gamer-pro-berlin]

❤

[@klein-concept]

🫶

[@mariuszbzowka6839]

Jak chcesz mieć lżej pomyśl o RED 22, mam całą grupę w karbonowej szosie i bez specjalnych zabiegów czy kosmicznych kosztów rower z pedałami waży 5700.

[@klein-concept]

@@mariuszbzowka6839 to crazy 😍😍😍

[@mikesneaky-h7s]

I love everything is expensive and then the saddle is super cheap 😂

[@klein-concept]

Haha. So true. But it is crazy light and comfortable. 🫣

[@TESTA-CC]

Im the same, Restored Peugeot Perthus Pro Reynolds 753R Full Bike Weight 8.3 KG Vitus Dural 979 Duralinox 8.5KG Both Bikes With Pedals & 54CM Frame No Carbon Parts on Either Bike.

[@klein-concept]

Lovely frames 🫶

[@TESTA-CC]

@@klein-concept Your Bike is Beautiful 6.5KG is Incredible. UCI has no jurisdiction here 👍👍

[@TESTA-CC]

@@klein-concept I will also do the same KC, now I have mine weighed in original form. I have ITM 26mm Carbon Handle Bars, Rolf Ares Carbon Wheels, WCS Ritchey Race Carbon Saddle & Seat Post. I haven't purchased a Square Tapered Carbon Crank Yet But it is on the List of things to buy before rebuilding the bike with some carbon bits. Id like to get it to 7.5KG If Possible.

[@klein-concept]

@@TESTA-CC sounds like a real good idea 🫶

[@TESTA-CC]

@@klein-concept My Friend Has a Cervelo S5 Road Bike, Its the Only Way I will be able to keep up KC, if the bike is lighter. I think his Cervelo S5 Frame weighs 808Grams.

[@holgaholic]

keep the EE

[@klein-concept]

Also think so 🤜🤛

[@emiliogirelagonzalez1809]

Hii, you think u can reach 5 kilos?, i suggested u the panaracer gillar tyres, there is a video in bicilab channel that speak about this tires and say that the tyres are prety good. And if u are not using ridenow tpu camera. i use for 2 years and was the best upgrade for my bike, and keep ee brakes, i asked u about that brakes a few moths ago and that was a very good buy .Thanks to that my orbea aqua san remo from 2006, with sensath lever, old 11 speed ultegra, ee brakes, campagnolo neutron ultra wheels, elita one seat post and sadle and riro carbon crank reach 7.1 kilos with pedals, when i bought it weight 9,2 kilos, and i can reach 6 kilos with another 1.2 kilos aluminiun wheel set i have, but prefer leave like that.

[@klein-concept]

Will see if i can get it lighter. Glad to hear you upgraded your bike to 7.1 that is impressive 🤜🤛

[@andreirlmeier]

Die Dura Ace Bremsen sind optisch viel schöner , weil schwarz

[@klein-concept]

@@andreirlmeier meinst wird dann nicht zu langweilig so alles in schwarz?

[@andreirlmeier]

@@klein-concept schwarz steht dir besonders gut !!!

[@klein-concept]

@@andreirlmeier haha 🤜🤛

[@EddyCat1234]

The DA brakes will look better

[@klein-concept]

Not too boring?

[@TheRokko66]

That weight is insane but bike weight is probably overrated. A SS or fixed would be even lighter😆

[@klein-concept]

@@TheRokko66 so true but still fun project 🫶

[@psnSupergrobi10]

Nach 30 Sekunden hatte ich kurz die Hoffnung, dass es eine thm Kurbel wird 😭

[@klein-concept]

@@psnSupergrobi10 hehe sorry. Das gab mein geldbeutel nicht her 😂😂

[@timtaylor9590]

grease is over rated wax is better because its thicker and wont degrade as much.

[@klein-concept]

@@timtaylor9590 but you mean wax for the bottom bracket threads?

[@timtaylor9590]

@@klein-concept correct all threads. wax doesnt attract dirt either, its much more resistant to friction and deterioration like how old grease actually calcifies and can cause bolts to seize. just be careful with torque specs because there will be much less friction, your tool may be reading 5nm when its actually closer to 10nm with wax. inside bearings ill use a combination of light oil with some thick grease and wax on the inner and outer part of the shields. all threads i use silcas wax. also works really well for cables. dry lube also works well for cables but it doesnt last as long.

[@klein-concept]

Never thought of that but might try it out. Thanks a lot for the tip 🤜🤛

[@donovanrice2671]

Keep the EE

[@klein-concept]

Also think so 🤜🤛

[@johndef5075]

All those expensive parts....buy a damn torque wrench.

[@klein-concept]

@@johndef5075 i have one but i choose to not use it. At least on 40+nm components 😂😂🫣

[@davidmurphy9151]

That crank is not tight enough - you cant get to 45 without more leverage than you showed.

[@klein-concept]

You underestimate my strength 😂😂😂 but good point. Will get the torque wrench out later today 🤜🤛

[@mikefoster3901]

DA brakes look better IMO

[@klein-concept]

Might swap them at some point to see how it looks 🤜🤛

[@alainpryt9641]

👏👏👏👍🇫🇷🚴🏻‍♂️

[@klein-concept]

@@alainpryt9641 🫶

[@nicolasjan1584]

6.5 kg. I don't understand.

[@klein-concept]

What do you mean? 🤜🤛

[@nicolasjan1584]

@@klein-concept why my bike is havier ? I won't describe it but it's smaller with less piecies and yet 8.5kg. i imagine the cuality is on the oposite side. but it's a nice giant tcr the mike burros one exepte the wheels.

[@klein-concept]

That is a really good frame 🫶 and 8.5 is not bad as well. You can always finetune the weight slowly. With some upgrades that dont have to be expensive.

[@nicolasjan1584]

@@klein-concept it's the earth attraction ! it must be diffrent .

[@aubreyxengland]

rim brakes on carbon rims 😰

[@klein-concept]

@@aubreyxengland hehe why not? Been riding these for a while already and never had issues. Especially in flat Berlin 😂😂

[@aubreyxengland]

@@klein-concept yeah I think that's the ticket. Steep descents are where they tend to cause issues. the EE brakes are killer though - keep them! I'm interested in your thoughts getting back to riding mechanical + rim brakes after riding electronic + disc

[@klein-concept]

​@aubreyxengland yes i heard that as well even tho another youtuber called Federico Ciampella took his rim brake bike with carbon wheels to Mallorca and had no issues. In regards to shifting performance. I was riding a Dura Ace 9000 mechanical for a while and you could definitely feel that it is a bit of a downgrade from electronic shifting but the 9100 has so short travels to switch gears that i would consider it as good as electronic shifting. Really love this groupset.

[@reinerfranke5436]

Why complain, it never rains in Berlin. Otherwise the crash mass is lowered anyway.

[@klein-concept]

@@reinerfranke5436 hahahahahaha never 🫣

[@fredhenderson6303]

You can always lose 5lbs.😂

[@klein-concept]

@@fredhenderson6303 always a good idea 🫣🍕🍔

[@PorucznikBorewicz]

Dura-Ace or GTFO.

[@klein-concept]

Hahahahahahahhahaha. But the ee s are so bling and light 🫣