Ep. 215: “I Saw You Kiss Her”

Cast members from both Seasons 1 and 2 reunite to raise money for victims of a landslide in Laguna Beach, California. But drama between Lauren and Jason dominates the episode and our hosts are here to explain. Hosted by Kristin Cavallari and Stephen Colletti.
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[@mirandaleann11]

This is my favorite Laguna Beach episode. Not even because of the drama that happened, but the scene with Dieter and Lauren always stuck with me. I remember watching this in middle school when it aired and thinking that was the kind of supportive, platonic male/female friendship I wanted. He supported her first, then confronted Jason in a mature, nonagressive, but stern way to try and protect her. Dieter really set the bar high in this one.

[@Arieszona48]

Yes I agree. Loved their friendship. When he said “hold it in” I cried

[@JessieDee13]

​@@Arieszona48 that line KILLS me every time

[@Nish1988]

This was the best male/female friendship support WE all need in our lives! I tell you at 35yrs old already rewatched season 1&2 on Netflix. Jessica was so pathetic and desperate. OF course Jason is a complete dog. Jessica became the mistress ( before bravo )

[@rorysmom3]

I’ve never had that 😢

[@nikrixxx6338]

​@@Nish1988I thought the same but now I realize she was an insecure kid with low self esteem. She was in love with a guy who used her. He knew she would fall at his feet and he used it

[@carolinecarmack6497]

Love how much respect y’all gave Lauren in this episode.

[@staciemeyer9649]

So refreshing compared to "Was it Real"

[@naseemkhalili6144]

WORD

[@Spicytamale02]

This episode was what cemented LC as a role model in the eyes of many girls from childhood into adulthood. Lauren was always able to defend herself and stand up for herself in a classy way.

[@laverome]

Loved this too and then she dated him again but when I’m as her age, I completely understood why she did and then drinking and dating someone toxic is hard to break. Either way, I am so happy for the woman she is!

[@Spicytamale02]

@@laverome yes bc she can see when he’s sober he’s such a good guy raised the right way and is respectful w/ manners whereas when he’s drunk/on drugs he’s someone else. Like Dr Jekyll & Hyde

[@laverome]

@@Spicytamale02 true that! I’ve dated someone like that too

[@ShadowRose1622]

I love that Lauren was so mature at such a young age.

[@hayerickson4361]

“I saw you kiss, Jessica!” “Get away from me…I never want to talk to you again…you disgust me,” So many great one-liners from LC. She held her ground.

[@amandamaestas2523]

“Don’t talk to me. Don’t touch me. Get away from me.”

[@kreyna15]

Wow can’t believe y’all didn’t remember this! One of the most iconic eps! Loved Dieter and how supportive of a friend he was.

[@liveloveresell2886]

We didn’t get enough of dieter’s true character until this episode. He was amazing for Lauren in this episode ❤

[@TheNeuroticjetfan]

My friend named her dog after Dieter because of the episode.

[@deekayteeohthree]

When Jason said "Be mature" to Lauren on that episode, it pissed me off for her.

[@vanessagalindo2552]

Gaslighting!

[@deesee3622]

@@vanessagalindo2552 definitely

[@deesee3622]

knowing full well the she is mature! the epitome of gaslighting

[@malanenix4033]

I think this podcast is exponentially better than The Hills podcast, but there is one thing they do that I wish y'all did as well. A few times throughout each episode, they put up pictures of the scene they're talking about. It'd be great if y'all did that too; especially on the episodes that don't have any video. Other than that, keep up the great work! ❤

[@lauramichelle7502]

I agree, I wish they could use screenshots or video clips..❤

[@deekayteeohthree]

Lauren was so strong in this episode. Jason was just so blatantly lying and toxic in this one. It was crazy

[@purplebutterfly5366]

Agree! I’m glad and happy that Jason got sober.

[@deekayteeohthree]

@@purplebutterfly5366 Yes! same here.

[@JeNn0mic0n]

Um and Jessica kissed him. She doesn’t get a free pass out of what happened either.

[@deekayteeohthree]

I want Jessica, Lauren and Jason to comment on this one. A girl can dream

[@xoxdesire]

yesss. I really wish they would of let us ask the cast questions. Kristin just had Jessica, Alex H and Alex M on her podcast and wanted to know certain details too.

[@JeNn0mic0n]

I’m glad the split-screen was implemented. Best way to get a close-up of both reactions at the same time.

[@purplebutterfly5366]

10:50 I love Dieter! I love how Dieter was there for Lauren and made me love him even more.❤ #backtothebeach

[@shereeny7775]

I appreciate Kristen for acknowledging how Lauren held the guy (Jason) responsible and not come after the girl (Jessica) only. However, the way Stephen made excuses for Jason while saying he's not, rubbed me the wrong way. You can sympathize with a friend's struggle with addiction AND hold them accountable for bad behaviour.

[@Spicytamale02]

Of course but it’s very clear in the scene that Jessica leaned in and kissed Jason first. Even though Jason was leaning in, she put her lips on his first. They are both at fault lol it’s just that Jason ALSO had an addiction he was battling during this as well.

[@JS-hk5op]

​@@Spicytamale02 I didn't see that at all. I saw Jason kiss Jessica multiple times. And even if it was Jessica who kissed first, she wasn't the one in a relationship and didn't owe Lauren anything (although still not right on Jessica's part). Jason not only kissed Jessica back and cheated on his girlfriend with his ex, but he also then lied to Lauren about it, and completely blamed the kiss on Jessica to his friends. Yes I understand he struggled with addiction, and that explains some of his behaviors, but definitely doesn't excuse it. My sister had been with a recovering addict for 8 years and put up with a lot from him (stealing, cheating, lying, gaslighting), and there's only so much you can make excuses for them, even though their actions are actively hurting other people. With that said, I am very glad Jason is in a much better place now, but we should also be sympathetic towards the people who were affected by his actions in the past. Jessica was just as much a victim to Jason's toxicity as Lauren was (maybe even more, because Jason actually treated Lauren with more respect than we ever saw him treat Jessica)

[@Spicytamale02]

@@JS-hk5op lmfao bye. Jessica was just as toxic as Jason. What kind of girl hooks up w/ a guy like that knowing he has girlfriends? What kind of girl would do this at a family event and then lie about it when confronted? Stop excusing women who hurt other women for selfish reasons. Jessica wasn’t thinking about anyone but herself when she went after Jason the two times he was with someone else. Jason had an addiction he can blame his actions on but what does she have to blame her actions on? That is the point I’m making. When you take away the blame, ultimately they both were toxic & shady & deserved each other in that moment. I mean to have your own best friends call you out the way Jessica’s did was enough to prove how toxic she really was.

[@JS-hk5op]

@@Spicytamale02 you do realize that Jessica was a year younger than everyone on the show, she was only 16 or 17 when all of this went down. A young girl can definitely do out of character things when she is in an emotionally abusive relationship with a guy. But sure....blame the other woman for a man cheating on his girlfriend. Even Lauren was aware enough not to blame Jessica for Jason's actions. And Jessica didn't go after Jason when he was with Lauren, Jason was more pursuing her and grabbed her face to kiss her. With the Alex situation, Alex had flirted with Jason while Jessica was with him, so Alex got some karma there. But you do realize the common denominator in all of this is Jason?? He cheated on Jessica when she was with him too. And Jason was not the only one drinking...Jessica and many other cast members were drinking throughout the season and made poor decisions because of it. Stop excusing men's poor behavior and blaming women for their mistakes. You seem more like you're putting other women down with that bullshit. Jessica was an insecure, young girl with a toxic, cheating, lying, manipulating boyfriend. You must be one of Jason's friends to be defending his behavior this much!

[@Spicytamale02]

@@JS-hk5op Lauren blamed whoever she wants to blame, it’s clear she was frustrated w/ Jessica as well but what does that say about the girl that everyone seems more disappointed in Jason than in Jessica. It sounds like everyone knows what kind of girl Jessica was so ppl expected Jason to be better than that. Lauren has always been a better person than Kristen and her friends but for Kristen to call out Jessica like that on Lauren’s behalf told me all I needed to know about her. Jessica lied about it to Dieter & to Lauren when she called her out for sitting on Jason’s lap “who’s lap was I sitting on?” “no bullish*t, when did Jason & I kiss? I know he’s hooking up w/ Lauren” like byeeeee lmfao Girls like that who are so insecure they are willing to hurt another woman for a man will always sicken me. Sorry not sorry.

[@S-E-P-96]

It’s so crazy that what ended up being the entire plot of the episode and the most dramatic part of the episode Ended up being a real moment.

[@ct6852]

I think the heart of the show was real stuff. That's why the producer set ups and shenanigans were mostly overlooked.

[@ew7554]

Lauren deserves all the credit still to this day 😩

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

Ok hear me out.. we need a Hills podcast with Lauren, Kristin and Stephen. Lauren and Kristin were both narrators of the show at different times and would provide great insights. They were so respectful of one another when Lauren was on the podcast. Stephen could be involved because he’s friends with both of them and he does a great job of moving the conversation forward. Plus he couldn’t get mad at the producers because he’s even not on that show 😂 I’m so sad that Laguna is coming to an end and would love for these three to cover The Hills. It would be much better than the other Hills podcast. Please make this happen!!

[@deekayteeohthree]

This would give me so much life if this happened

[@gabriellaaamarie]

There is a Hills podcast!! Its ran by Audrina, frankie, heidi and Brody.. its literally a lets talk shit about Lauren and Heidi gaslighting herself when it comes to spencer being manipulative

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

@@gabriellaaamarie I’ve seen it. I’m sure Lauren and Kristin could do much better since they have matured a lot more lol

[@lmkk9118]

Never gonna happen. Kristin likes to be original, and doing another Hills podcast that her friends are currently doing just wouldn't be a move she would make. Also, I don't think Stephen is busting down her door to continue to work with her on something new since he now has a serious live-in girlfriend and would probably see it as disrespectful to pursue a new project with his x-girlfriend. I suspect Stephen is waiting until the podcast is over and then will propose to his girlfriend and they will all go their separate ways.

[@Jac-Jay]

@@gabriellaaamarie It's boring, Frankie is interesting and seems decent enough.. Whitney's take on The Hills is very good, her husband is brilliant too.

[@LinGil23]

Loving your podcasts with the two of you together on camera. I hope when you finish Laguna Beach, you will continue to do other shows such as The Hills or Very Cavallari. Kristin and Stephen are great together!

[@hayerickson4361]

I agree. I think Kristin would love all Lauren’s one-liners from The Hills.

[@juliagallegos9919]

Born 2000 and finding this show through KZbin videos and now I’m obsessed lol

[@SammyCamilleKyle]

Bummer you guys forgot about what happened because I was DYING for you to ask Jason and Jessica about it!!! I wanted to know what happened!!!!

[@Shesroyal85]

Same! I was waiting for them to bring this up to both of them

[@GenF91]

Right?!

[@kirstyhesketh1416]

❤

[@ct6852]

Jason's blanket response was basically: I was young and addictive and avoidant. Overstuffed ego with low self worth.

[@jsm8841]

Jessica said last week at the end of her episode that she was verrrrry drunk, lol

[@alibellaxoxos]

"Get your own shoes Jessica".

[@loria2775]

Stephen, PLEASE let Kristin talk more! You dominated this episode.

[@dres2557]

You could see it in her face she was getting less and less patient waiting for him to stop monologuing

[@juliasalisbury890]

I feel like he wants to be a producer so bad. Is it really that “Fascinating” Stephen? Cringe.

[@dejavunous3478]

whaaaat y'all came back and made a show here?! Yay!!! I remember the Laguna Beach days. I am 38 so similar age, and been fun to have a generation of people to watch grow up at the same time as me, and go on to do life as adults! It's heart warming that you can still be buddies and do this show. I'll be watching!

[@julieshreve3583]

Laguna Beach- Specifically Season 2 is my comfort show. Iykyk 💕

[@MySTiCTiNKeRBeLL]

My issue with this episode was Jason was trying to kiss & be flirty with Jessica while they were in line waiting to walk and NO ONE cared to say anything since he was joking up with Lauren! Also, Jen Bunney with her damn “I will keep him 10 feet away from you” always annoys me! 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ct6852]

She did not keep him ten feet away. Lol. Jen Bunney and her lies...

[@simonejulee1111]

Apparently Jen Bunny also kissed Jason whilst keeping him 10 feet away

[@ct6852]

@@simonejulee1111 Is that for real? He kissed her that same night?

[@annienguyen7883]

Take a shot every time Stephen says "tee up"

[@amandachenault6373]

Did that last night on another episode, woke up with a hangover this morning 😊

[@darlingpresleyrocks]

I LOVE your podcast! I "went back to the beach" and binged watched reruns over the pandemic and love to revisit even now as it brings back memories of my own life. Kristin and Stephen have amazing chemistry and are great natural speakers. I could listen to you guys all day at my desk, plus your voices (esp. Stephen's) is so relaxing... so thanks a mill for creating Back to the Beach and keep the episodes coming! Im such a fan!

[@stephaniemcavey4637]

Don’t you think you should have had either Jessica or Jason on for this episode!!??

[@HeavenlyLifeOnEarth]

They didn’t remember this happened to be able to properly align the guest appearances with this episode. But I think because this was essentially all new to them, they should have did solo analysis of all the episodes, then guest appearances after the season finale. I think they sprinkled the guest appearances through out to keep us all tuned in through the duration of the podcast season though.

[@callatelabocaaa7874]

@@HeavenlyLifeOnEarth I also believe they don’t wanna talk about a lot of things. They didn’t speak about it with Lauren, Jason nor Jessica.

[@Unaminousverdict]

Jason just gonna say he doesn’t remember 😂

[@maloneaqua]

They just had them both 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jennsara305]

I wonder if Jason and Jessica said that they didn’t want to be on for this episode 🤷‍♀️

[@Leesliie]

I can't tell you how happy these recaps make me! Its made me start rewatching LB and im already back on the hills now LOL. My nieces also went to school @ LBH either when you were filming or soon after but I remember them telling me that they were at a couple of parties while filming was going on.

[@TheFernB]

Jenn Bunney was such a pick me. She was really annoying in this episode.

[@christina7328]

Please do a part 2 of other cast member’s reactions to this episode!!

[@anar1104]

This is an amazing podcast, I love the commentary ❤ on point but very respectful.

[@B1andonly]

What I like about the pod cast is just S&K friendship resurgence just being adults and buddies!

[@ct6852]

Oh...so that's why Jessica was glad she was on last week and not for this one. Lol. This episode was huge for Lauren. Pretty much procured her careers for the rest of her life, and incredible riches. Really glad she's doing well. Happy to see her succeed.

[@kevinpham15]

this scene was everything to me because it showed how real it was. i truly believe when Deiter was holding LC and saying "hold it hold it you got it" It made me feel like they all knew what they were signing up for in terms of having their lives filmed however they didnt know what it would entail however they would sit together discussing what to say what not to say how to act how now to act which obviously not everyone will follow to the tea but that scene where you can really feel real emotion is that lauren was gonna really cry and break down but Deiter being a good friend was like "hold it, remember your on camera, you dont want to be that person that has a crying meltdown on tv" THAT is what i got from that scene. That made me realize how the show is more produced than reality but man I could go on all day about how i think Laguna Beach and The Hills is the most educational coming of age docurealtiy show that needs to be taught !!! honestly. I am so grateful for every single one of yall who put yourself out there for the world to see and honestly its so real, if you watch it with the right lens. each one of the cast has taught me something that i took and applied to my life and has made my life more fulfilled and more self aware,, or just aware in general. I know im late to commenting but hey life. LC Stephan and Kristen are the 3 best honestly yall are my cyber family

[@candyparedes4171]

One of my favorite episodes! Love the Backstreet Boys song made it more dramatic!

[@NoName-mm4qf]

The most anticipated episode!!!

[@Manda_Lynn]

Listening to y'all talk about this episode I had to go back and watch it and that's what I am doing now lol! I watched every episode from Laguna Beach and the Hills!! Loved it then and now! I also loved when Lauren came on and how you guys set everything straight!! XO

[@marysaxon4265]

Regarding the kiss;, Jason initiated it and Jessica went with it.

[@simonejulee1111]

Sad that Lauren gave him another chance after this. So glad Jason is not this version of himself anymore

[@aprilbaby4071]

This pod cast is breath of fresh air for Laguna Brach fans i love there recaps :)

[@chantehood9773]

Love the respect for Lauren! Well deserved obviously and you can’t say anything else. I am so happy that dieter got his respect finally. Watching how Jessica regardless of being drunk whatever like you can’t use being drunk as an excuse like I mean you can’t you know what you’re doing regardless and they both knew and I don’t excuse alcohol being an excuse. You did what you did and it obviously plays out in the best episode so for viewer’s don’t use alcohol as an excuse or why kids behave this way. It’s about choices and what you do under the influence and not. Just because you drink doesn’t effect your moral compass.

[@thehapagirl92]

How Lauren reacted to Jason cheating is the way a woman with self respect should react. She didn’t tolerate it and she said “Your loss”

[@CazkiwiNZ]

Aaaaand then she took him back again and lived with him for over a year and a bit

[@jennlipe4596]

I have loved Kristen since I was a teen. My heart is so happy listening to this podcast 😊

[@britneyfalk1285]

I wish they would insert clips from the scenes they're talking about.

[@arelimoreno18]

I wish they would have waited to have Jason or Jessica on for this episode! I needed so many answers for this episode!

[@ssabino16]

Omg all I can hear is my very heterosexual male friend who I made watch this show with me (we are the same age as the ppl in the show) making me crack up like saying, what are these names? Dieter? Poelster?! I forgot about all these names 😂😂

[@kayladouglas2063]

Lauren really could have let Jason have it and she didn’t. She did a good job of keeping her composure and kudos to her.

[@snb_angels]

We need to hear your song, Kristin 🥰

[@chantehood9773]

To sit and blame alcohol on someone’s choices. Yes I believe that someone can under the influence do things but at the end of the day you make those choices drunk or not don’t excuse someone’s actions because they are intoxicated. That’s just not acknowledging or accepting behavior around you and excusing it as poor judgment because they where intoxicated. It’s simple you made a bad decision regardless which Jessica did at that time regardless and she gave zero fucks during that time. Until aftermath of course. I mean we live in scandaval so really like she knew and she didn’t think it would be caught on camera let’s be real

[@nelindalevy8797]

I loved this episode. It really did feel real. Lauren was great and handled herself so well.

[@sashamuniz0521]

Thanks for recording this live

[@lovelettersandlace]

Ahh finally! I've been refreshing YT all morning!

[@sashamuniz0521]

Me too😅

[@ct6852]

First thing I check after work. Lol. Lame but true.

[@SimsGirl4Ever]

Kristin looks so pretty

[@Shannon_Moore]

Steven puts the work in, dang!🤗

[@leratosiwela9251]

I totally agree with you he really does the research, such an eye for detail it amazes me! Always gives a panoramic view and then some

[@alisonabbott357]

Stephen

[@elizabethbarcelo4272]

They can’t remeber and here’s he remebering every word like I was there 😂

[@snb_angels]

“Hey Dieter. Did you just yell at Jessica? Because I watched it, and it really wasn’t her. It was all Jason.” - Lauren Boss shit for Lauren to call out Jason. Though Jason did initiate the kiss, Lauren didn’t see the other parts where Jessica was flirting and contributing to what led up to the kiss. And… this helped bring along The Hills 😁

[@mfancyketchup6701]

noo don't blame Jessica; she was young and drunk

[@snb_angels]

@@mfancyketchup6701 🤣

[@Spicytamale02]

Jessica was the definition of an airhead but I think she just acted that way as a defense mechanism

[@TheNeuroticjetfan]

Wasn’t she a bit younger then the rest of the cast?

[@ashak386]

I still love laguna beach bur holy moly, Stephen really needs to let Kristin speak or just dive in to the episode😅

[@BrilliantWhenYouGlow]

🥃 every time Stephen says “IRL” 😅

[@anatvtime4323]

Can we give it up for Lauren and how she managed to remain composed and finish the fashion show even though she just went through that, props to her. Very mature. Alsoooo When i watched this episode I remembered the episode of the Hills when Lauren was telling Whitney about Jason and she was describing this episode about what he did... Also Go Deter!

[@taylerrenee9710]

I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EPISODE!!!!

[@MySTiCTiNKeRBeLL]

I was excited for the 2nd season Cabo episode and this episode lol

[@Kiara__Says]

They go over the "dating hot Sam" timeline every episode 😂

[@dianamendoza5662]

I’ve never seen Kristin obsess over guy like she did Hot Sam. Stephen too lol

[@pistachiosandpopcorn7146]

And what’s funny is talan was the hot one out of all of them

[@fortheladies771]

@@pistachiosandpopcorn7146 No lol

[@viviana_2024]

This is my favorite episode! 🤩

[@deekayteeohthree]

This is the episode I'm here for

[@sarahcavazos-nb4ps]

Knowing that talan dropped out of school to pursue musics makes more sense of everyone’s reaction. Haha

[@kaileykossellar3905]

My waterworks moment. I was so invested in their relationship.

[@carolinecarmack6497]

One way to help these podcasts be a little better is to show clips before you talk about them. Just short snippets. But overall, super well done

[@livinglifewithlaura2256]

EVERY single episode they’re blaming alcohol and giving Jason a pass. “That’s not the real him” wellll.. maybe it was at 17?! Don’t make excuses please.

[@fannyfannyfanny]

I was thinking that too.

[@Bea56601]

I definitely think it’s a little of both

[@vanessagalindo2552]

This!!!

[@michellew3441]

Can we have a live episode where we as viewers can ask questions or give our thoughts

[@alexakearney]

I’m cracking up hearing Kristen talk about her only musical hope coming out of Europe 💀. I want to hear this song !

[@deesee3622]

Lauren was mature and really loved how she handled the situation - I wasn't surprised she held her own because of the way she carries herself, she seems to be someone who wouldn't put up with bs.

[@thehapagirl92]

I’m shocked Trey wasn’t seemingly sought after on the show. Maybe he was irl but not on the show which is surprising to me because he’s so interesting!

[@pistachiosandpopcorn7146]

He was just a rich hippie. Nothing fascinating about to me….see them all the time.

[@thehapagirl92]

@@pistachiosandpopcorn7146 He was really into volunteering and seemed down to earth

[@skurinski]

yup, its super common, and most of them eventually turned out to be woke nightmares@@pistachiosandpopcorn7146

[@chelsealedger3415]

I swear when Lauren and Jason are talking behind that curtain they add a wild line in that sounds like jessica not lauren saying "then why cant you just be happy with me" anyone hear this?

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

Agreed, it sounded like Jessica!

[@lmkk9118]

There were MANY more wild lines on this episode (and that scene) that they didn't even talk about

[@immisstee4]

I think that whole scene of them talking behind the curtains were wild lines because you never really see their mouths in that scene

[@chelsealedger3415]

@@immisstee4 YESS!! I thought the exact same thing. even what Jason says before about being obsessed with her. You can't see his mouth

[@chelsealedger3415]

@LM KK Definitely!! Just like Kristin said if you don't see someone's mouth moving its Definitely a wild line. Crazy to think this show is like 80% wild lines 😳

[@tdp1428]

This episode was classic! I felt so bad for Lauren.

[@ashleyhannigan505]

I loved Dieter in this episode. He's such a great friend.

[@sarahwashington1461]

Best episode! Should of had Jessica and Jason on!!!!

[@AbiCroCro]

I’m so excited to watch thissss

[@cdawnd1672]

He did grab the back of Jessica's head and pulled her to him.

[@susanhousman9650]

I love Stephen dearly but he takes control of these episodes even the ones he’s not in . Kristen should be doing season 2 cuz Stephen was in college then.

[@nigelwee]

We need to know if you guys will be back after this season.

[@MySTiCTiNKeRBeLL]

They weren’t in the 3rd season though so what would they cover?

[@nigelwee]

@@MySTiCTiNKeRBeLL yea same thoughts. They can tell us about the weather and stuff while I sip my coffee. I'd still tune in.

[@Shannon_Moore]

Kristin seems a little mellow here compared to normal 🤷‍♀️

[@vaguilera817]

This and Whitney’s reactions videos are the best…. I don’t know about that other podcast lol! They’re just not honest!!! Ugh

[@ct6852]

I think they've mostly honest...until it comes to something that incriminates them. Lol.

[@ovilla4]

i think you guys should play the clips if you can

[@lmkk9118]

I love hearing what Stephen has to say, and he's really good at breaking down/analyzing the episodes, but he just talks for long periods of time and it gets exhausting.

[@joshuakteal]

I feel the same way! I feel like they could’ve went more in-depth on this episode, but Stephen dominated the conversation pretty much the whole time.

[@NBean90]

Same! I wish Kristin would narrate the episode sometimes, cause Stephen gets long winded sometimes and it gets exhausting lol

[@Monkeymeee]

I don’t mind Stephen getting into it! I think he provides good insight😊

[@jab070]

I like Stephen’s insights! I guess ya can’t please everyone.

[@jaimiemalalis1321]

He just needs Kristin to get a word in as well. I feel like he takes over the entire conversation.

[@ania5038]

Not saying you have to but I hope you guys do 50 episodes total with the last 2 episodes of the show, 3 more bonus fan voicemail episodes, 2 more guests (Lo Bosworth and Taylor Cole??) and a final episode to close the podcast just as my suggestion :)

[@ashleywilks6846]

Please please...watch The Hills and give assessments...and bring on guests as well...i just want your thoughts and obersavations on those...you guys have wonderful insight...its so great to hear these observationsas you watch with your adult eyes...that sounded but weird...but i think it makes sense lol...This podcast is my positive pod cast between my murder/true crime podcasts lol

[@ct6852]

Kristen definitely could...but don't think Stephen would join. He wouldn't have much to talk about. He was only on part of one episode. And that was before Kristen took over.

[@GenF91]

Ah the infamous episode.

[@brittanyfahnestock437]

This episode made Lauren a star she was so strong In this episode

[@amye8733]

Does anyone know how Heidi was in Laguna beach like I know she met Lauren there but did her family move there for a while cause in the hills they live in Colorado..

[@ct6852]

Heidi met Lauren in San Francisco. They came back for spring break or summer or something.

[@maybe4003]

Heidi said she stayed with Lauren’s family for a bit

[@armygirl85fuckhitler74]

They met in college in San Francisco. Lauren was in college in the 2nd season

[@aforanarhija4987]

Stephen talks 20 mins straight and all I'm here for is Kristin. Man shut up let her talk she's smarter more interesting and focused. Gosh

[@mattbarnes636]

After all these years Kristin is still so fucking gorg 😍 appears to have almost no plastuc surgery. As a Dad to a young daughter this is great to see from our female role models in pop culture.

[@moreadventure3627]

Its so crazy to know now that Heidi s dream was to be like Kristin

[@moreadventure3627]

She even have her same haircut

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

I was thinking this too when Jordan or Brian said it on the other podcast. Kristin used her fame to launch a successful career and Heidi married Spencer and became a villain on reality shows. I feel like that’s the difference between having true confidence and sticking to your values, as Kristin did, vs. only seeking fame and losing yourself in Hollywood

[@AshlieMaddox]

Lauren even said something to Deiter about being mean to Jessica bc it was more Jason than Jessica! #respect

[@lacali2346]

Kristin looks so ❤‍🔥 always beautiful

[@haleyleffler9755]

Kristin, need your tank top details!!

[@swiftkarma4436]

I always wondered what the lyrics were...somewhere dead in Hollywood. I enjoyed the song.

[@ct6852]

Damn it's called 'Somewhere Dead in Hollywood'? Kinda dark for a bunch of teenagers to be chanting.

[@swiftkarma4436]

​@ct6852 that's what I thought too. Hopefully it means something else. And not the way we are taking it but then again...

[@dannilynn921]

Kristen seems annoyed in this episode not as chipper as usual

[@immisstee4]

She's probably thinking, shut up and let me talk too Stephen!

[@chellwithme]

Stephen talks too much. Omg 😒

[@lauramichelle7502]

I have to start by saying how fun it is to reminisce with you both! There is something cathartic about it all.. looking back, and while it was a lifetime ago, it somehow seems like just yesterday. I def love seeing how everyone has grown and matured, I started watching these types of vids with Whitney Port and then recently came across your channel, love love it. One thing I will say, and I mean this with all the love, Steven is a bit of a rambler, hehe. I love his passion, his point of views, etc, please don’t change that.. BUT how in the world did Kristin just tell you she released a song and you didn’t ask ANYTHING about it?! I want to know what kinda music, what was it about, if she would share a sneak peek lol.. you were just like oh yea cool and now onto my next topic.. almost like when you watch the news and they tell you about some horrific murder and then they are like and now the news.. lol. I love your chemistry together, it is hella cool having u two do this together.. but maybe Steven take a breath every so often and genuinely engage in the actual convo vs just what you have on your list to talk about. I think its nerves, you both are doing amazing and again I really am enjoying this… just wanted to offer a lil note.. that I sincerely is taken (if this is ever even read) with open arms! LONG live Kristin and STEEEvaaan! ❤❤❤❤

[@arisolisB]

11:25 That "Hold it" scene was unforgettable for me ❤‍🩹