How to Set Up a Sight Tape on a Bow: Black Gold Sight Tape Instructions

[@iamtacticole4663]

Sorry for the silly question... I would assume you need to sight in all your pins from your zero position... Prior to selecting any tapes?? So on my 5 pin assault...I need to set all my pins for their proper yardages, and then choose which will be the floater and start using the dial to find my 20 and 60 slider positions to select a tape? Does this sound correct? Am I over thinking this? I got this pro sight as a buy once cry once purchase.. I want to make sure I’m taking advantage of all it has to offer, even though I’m not practicing our past 60 yards yet!!

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

That's a great question and I apologize I didn't explain that better in the video. Your pins do NOT need to be sighted in prior to finding the correct sight tape. You can sight in your pins after the fact and it will not change the sight tape. Does that help/answer your question?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

The main thing is to make sure you use the same pin when you set the 20 and 60yd marks on the vertical slide. If you do that, you'll be good and can then finish sighting in your pins.

[@benhunter6053]

Heyyy! Is this the Boise foothills range? That’s my stomping grounds!

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Heck yeah man!

[@toreyyoung1518]

Your version does not work with the five pin.

[@odinsarrow1343]

Man for shooting long distances I’m getting a little stumped on where is best to put my floater right now.. But I really appreciate the video it helps!

[@odinsarrow1343]

Any recommendations?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Absolutely! You will likely get the most range out of your setup if you use your bottom pin as your floater. That should give you the most clearance for your arrow. Thanks for watching!

[@kadenmassey316]

After you do 20 yards and 60 yards what do you do with the other 2 pins that’s were I’m getting lost do I have to site in 30 and 40 yard pin or just do 20 yards and 60 yards and then use the slider and put it on 30 and it is good to go

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there Kaden! After you do the 20yd and 60yd marks and get your sight tape all set, you'll still need to sight in your other pins individually like you normally would with a fixed pin sight. Your 60yd pin is then your floater for longer distances (or shorter distances if you want). Does that help? Thanks for watching!

[@MrMigs11]

Hello I just purchased this sight and I’m in the process of sight in the in . I have completed the setup in this video but was wondering how to set the 5 individual pins ? I see there are tiny screws on the side would you be able to make a video on this process . Thank you so much

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there and thanks for the comment! I might have to put together a video on adjusting the individual pins! Its pretty easy though. Loosen the tension screw then loosen the screw to the pin you are adjusting- then turn the micro adjust knob to move the pin and tighten the pin and tension screws back up (gently).

[@ryankopy6967]

Sorry just found this video. Great info as I am looking to change to a 3 pin adjustable to reduce the pin clutter of a 5 pin sight. I am also looking at adding a different peep, to help clear up my sight window. What peep are you running? It looks like one that has a verifier/clarifier.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks for watching and glad it was helpful! I am using the Hamskea Raptor peep and have found it to be a huge upgrade over your standard peep. Definitely provides a much more crisp sight picture. Thanks again!

[@bluegrassdroneguy3495]

I always add 6 ft to actual bow speed then fine tune windage and elevation at 40 plus yds and can set marker at 27 yds with yardage dial bottom out, and pretty well on 0-32 yd maybe 1.5” hot at 20, this is for single pin, also set sight yardage dial on 50 yds and shoot from 12 ft away dead on and then at 20 yd with dial back on 20 it will be close

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Good deal! Thanks for the info!

[@traviskipp7888]

So you set your 20yd pin to 20 & 60 .. how do you know your 3rd is in the correct spot when you put the red on 60 but use yourc3rd pin down? Seems it would shoot high.. thx!

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@traviskipp7888 hey! You use the 20yd pin at 20yds and 60yds just to get the correct sight tape, then from there reset the slider to zero and sight in all your pins individual. Hope that helps!

[@joyner7777]

I’m truly confused on why the sight tape doesn’t line up to the 20yd mark and the 60 mark. So when you slide your sight to the 20 yard mark on the tape won’t you be shooting way high since the 20 yard mark you drew was a lot lower than where it is on the tape ?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there! The two marks were just for the purpose of finding the correct sight tape. Once that is found, you can set up the sight in whatever position as your "zero" that you like. Then sight it in using the housing adjustment. That make sense?

[@jonathan_guerrero]

@@BackwoodsPursuit but once you do this, don't you have to place another piece of the same tape when you have your zero? I'm confused as well.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@jonathan_guerrero hey there! Once you have the correct tape selected, you move the sight back to zero and then put the tape on with the sight at zero. Stick the tape on with the red pointer pointing at whatever yardage your bottom pin(or whatever pin you select to be your moving pin) and you should be good. Thanks for watching!

[@jonathan_guerrero]

@@BackwoodsPursuit thanks for the response! I will look at it and hope I can figure it out because. If not I'll come back to pick your brain lol

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@jonathan_guerrero sounds good! Let me know if you have any trouble.

[@MatthewDickens-k1w]

So I’m trying to figure out the 20/40 set up since I’m not good at 60 how’s that work

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there! You can stick a blank label on the knob, then sight in at 20yds and make a mark on the blank tape where the purple pointer is at 20yds. After you get is sighed in at 20yds, use that same pin an sight in at 40yds and mark that. Then grab your sight tapes and find the one with the same 20yd and 40yd marks and that'll get your pretty close. Thanks for watching!

[@ryans8502]

Great video. I’m using an Ascent Verdict single pin (vertical). What would I want the red needle on, when applying the sight tape ?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks Ryan, appreciate it! Really you can set the red needle to whatever yardage you prefer your zero to be. Lots of flexibility that way! Put your sight on whatever your base position yardage is and line up your tape to that yardage. Just make sure you have enough sight clearance for the longest shot you want to take.

[@BigWillieFPV]

How do I setup my pins? You mention you use the bottom pin, when do you use the other pins?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Each pin can be adjusted up and down with the screws on the side. I typically leave the sight at the base, or zero position and use it as a fixed pin sight, then when I want to shoot longer distances I use the dial and bottom pin as the floater.

[@BigWillieFPV]

@@BackwoodsPursuit ok thanks I think I got it, I’m new to compound bows thanks for you help and great video

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@BigWillieFPV excellent! Glad to hear. Any time!

[@joshmckeever2774]

Completely new to bow hunting and just put an adjustable black gold sight on my bow. As of now, I don't feel comfortable shooting out to 60 but 40-50 is within my comfort zone. Is there any way to do this process and install the sight tape without having to shoot at 60 or should I just wait until I'm more comfortable shooting at 60 to do this?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks for the question! Yes, you could do this process at 20 and 50 or 20 and 40 to find the correct tape. Then once you get more comfortable and practiced out to 60yds, check it to make sure it's all dialed on. Thanks for watching!

[@joshmckeever2774]

@@BackwoodsPursuit sounds good, thank you!

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@joshmckeever2774 you bet!

[@metal_mo]

Great info, thank you! My OCD kicked in on that crooked tape cut LOL

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Haha...thanks for watching! I may have redone that after stopping the camera lol! Thanks for watching!

[@buckrush8612]

What pin is your floater pin I got the 3 pin and was gonna use bottom as my floater but since I sighted it in 20,30,40 I figured I’d cut off the sight tape above 40

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

I've got my bottom pin as the floater as well and that's worked really well over the years. You could cut off the top part of the tape, but I'd leave it because you can use it if you can You can roll the sight up and use the bottom pin for a shorter yardage if you ever wanted to shoot a precise shot. Just a thought. Thanks for watching!

[@rocknthamix]

Thanks dude!

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Absolutely! Thanks for watching!

[@guitarwilly81]

So sight in your 20,30,40,50,60 pins as normal before getting to the sight tape?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

You really don't even have to get all your pins set before you get to the sight tape. Just pick a pin, say the 60yd pin, and get your sight tape set up using that pin. That'll get your sight tape set, then you can finish dialing in your pins individually. But, you certainly can get all your pins set first. that help? Sorry if that wasn't clear in the video!

[@gmatthewpaul]

Someone tell me if wrong l! I have always bottom out rover to top and sighted in (3pin slider) 20,30,40 pins and used my rover as my bottom 40 pin! Then I use bottom pin to set 60 yards…. Cut tape between the 2 starting tape at 40 yards. Then I should have my marks. I tried chrono tapes and it was not accurate.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@gmatthewpaul hey! Yeah, that's certainly fine as well. I know lots of folks who do it that way and it works fine. Personally I prefer to start with my slide bar at the zero position flush as I feel like that gives the sight the most durability (in case of a fall or something),bl but either way works fine. Thanks for watching!

[@pauldelgados4517]

What is the name of the shooting release you are using in this vid??

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there Paul! That is the Carter Wise Choice 4 finger release. It's a great release. Thanks for watching!

[@eaznutts5714]

At the top flush starting point, red arrow on the 60, can you use the floating pin at let's say 35 yds????

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

If I understand what you are asking, yes, depending on you bow setup you should be able to move it up to around 30yds or so, and shoot your bottom pin for that distance, but that'll depend on how fast your bow shoots etc.

[@eaznutts5714]

@@BackwoodsPursuit that's exactly what i was asking, thank you. Great video

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@eaznutts5714 excellent! The minimum yardage will totally depend on your set-up (I believe mine is about 25yds min) but some will be more or less than that. Best of luck and thanks for watching!

[@traviskipp7888]

So if I understand you i can use my 29yd pin for any yardage but it has to be set at zero to use the other 2 at set yds.. how would I use my 3rd as a slider .. lovecthe video I think im just a little behind 😊

[@NightriderST]

Top pin for 20, sight all pins in according, use bottom pin to make your 60 yard mark and that bottom pin will be your rover when you turn dial to further distrances correct?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

That's mostly correct, except use your 60 pin to mark both 20yds and 60yds to get the marks to select the correct sight tape. Otherwise you got it!

[@NightriderST]

Backwoods Pursuit ok I think I’m grasping it. So in all, I’m using the bottom pin to get my 20 yard mark, and my 60 yard mark. So does that mean I will need to have my dial turned to 60 yards in order to use my top pin for a 20 yard shot? I’m sorry I was just very confused haha

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@NightriderST you got it! Set your vertical slide "zero" with the red mark at 60yds and then sight in rest of the pins (20-60) and use the 60yd pin as your floater to go to longer distances. Of course there are other ways to set it up, but start with that and you'll be well on your way!

[@NightriderST]

Backwoods Pursuit ok ok, so theoretically I will not need to turn that dial to 20 if I need to take a 20 yard shot. 60, would be my “home” distance so anything below that the sight would act as just a plain fixed sight.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@NightriderST You got it man! Exactly! Hit me up if you have any other questions along the way!

[@Thrillhouse213]

Love the video, quick question, should we get our housing elevation and windage adjusted prior to setting up for the sight tape then zeroing out the remaining pins?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there and thanks! You can do either one first. This process just gets your tape selected, then you can dial in the rest later if you want. Or, get everything dialed in at the "zero" position and then go through this process to find the correct tape. Either way works!

[@Thrillhouse213]

@@BackwoodsPursuit I find that interesting as I would think the change in elevation and windage would throw the sight tape off. Thanks again for your response!

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@Thrillhouse213 you bet! I guess think of the tape as your pin gaps. They will be the same until you mess with your arrow set up or draw weight etc....same with your tape.

[@KevinW411]

VERY helpful. Thank you!

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Glad it helped! Happy shooting out there!

[@garrettweston767]

So you use the pin your gonna use as your float pin and sight it in to 20 and 60v

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

That's correct. You can really use any pin you want as you are just using those two marks to find the gaps so you can match up with the appropriate sight tape. I went ahead and used my 60yd pin to get my marks. Thanks for watching let me know if you have any other questions!

[@ramonwarren3144]

Sorry for the silly question...but i don't remember if you stated what pin you used for the 20yd and 60yd shot?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

No problem at all! I used the middle pin, but it doesn't matter which one you use as long as you use the same one. Thanks for watching and let me know if you have any other questions!

[@RockyMountainHunter2]

I talked with Black Gold and they recommend having the zero/home position all the way to top(turn the big adjuster knob for dialing yardage so the zero or home position is all the way to the top)....they do not recommend using the flush due to the fact that arrows/fletchings may hit the sight if you are showing a heavier arrow or slower bow and try shooting longer distances in which you dial the yardage. By having the zero/home position all the way to the top, it gives you more range to dial.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks for the feedback! That is certainly a consideration to take into account, particularly in the scenario you stated, with bows shooting a heavier arrow and a slower FPS. Something to experiment with for sure. I've personally used the setup in the video with the bow in the video (Bowtech Realm SR6), as well as my previous bow (Mathews Heli-M) shooting a 520gr arrow at 265fps with success. On that slower setup I was able to shoot out to 120yds with clearance. On the setup in the video (492gr arrow at 295fps), I've got plenty of clearance well past 120yds, so it works great for my particular setup. Definitely play with it and see which way works best for your own setup though.

[@RockyMountainHunter2]

@@BackwoodsPursuit Thanks for providing your arrow weights and speeds for reference. I ordered one yesterday and was doing some KZbin research when I came across your video. Thanks for taking the time to make and post the video. It was very informative.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@RockyMountainHunter2 absolutely! Glad it was helpful and don't hesitate to leave a comment if you have any other questions on setting it up. Happy to help! Thanks for watching!

[@krunchdeez]

I’m new to archery and been trying to figure this out I have a pro sight 3 pin with a dual indicator is it the same process

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Yes sir! Just use the same indicator to find the correct gap like in the video. Thanks for watching!

[@krunchdeez]

Does it matter what pin or indicator I use for this cause I’ll be using the both top pin as a floater and top indicator for ranging the distance again thank you for the help

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Nope, you can use whatever pin and indicator for getting it set up.

[@ericeg20]

Do you ever have to move the actual indicators on the dual one ? I want mine rolled all the way to the top an set 20 and 40 for dual indicators

[@ronaldcalvird8116]

I have the 3-pin black gold pro. I actually sighted in my 20, 30, and 40 yard pins without any sight tape because I wasn’t going to use it. Now I’m going to haha. What should my plan of attack be now? Completely start over and do your process? Or is there a way I can utilize what I’ve already done as far as setting my 20, 30, and 40 yard pin? Hope that makes sense.

[@ronaldcalvird8116]

Basically, I want to add a sight tape now but don’t want to lose my starting point of having already gotten my 20, 30, and 40 set with the 3 pins in the housing.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@ronaldcalvird8116 you can definitely still use what you've done. Just go through the same process with your current 40yd pin. Basically move the 40yd pin up using the slider and dial it in at 20yds. Make a tick mark and then move it down to about where you think 60yds will be and dial in that 40yd pin at 60yds and make another mark. Grab your sight tapes and see which one matches up and you should be good to go! Let me know if you have any questions along the way. My email address is [e-mail].

[@ronaldcalvird8116]

Backwoods Pursuit Ahhh, makes sense. Will definitely do that tomorrow. Thanks for the help! Thanks for always responding in a timely manner. Much appreciated! P.S. will certainly take advantage of the email when/if I need some bow help. Using your videos, I’ve set up my own bow shop, set up my bow, and spent way too much on First Lite gear haha

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@ronaldcalvird8116 glad they were helpful and thanks for letting me know! Always happy to help. Sorry about helping you blow the budget on FL gear lol! It is nice stuff though.

[@LUMBRZACH]

@@BackwoodsPursuit I'm in the same boat as Ronald, but w/ the mountain lite, however when sighting in my 20, 30, & 40-yard pins, I did this with the slider at the top-most position. If I were to attempt the process you mentioned above w/ the 40-yard pin, I'd be way high at 20... Should I adjust all my pins and start from the "neutral position" or is there another way?

[@tbfishin2480]

Why is the red arrow between the 20 and 60 marks put to 60?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there! The two marks at 20 and 60 were just to establish my pin gaps and select which sight tape works. After that, you can put the tape on wherever you would like, depending on where you want you "zero" to be.

[@ernestodelao1601]

So the sight tape is strictly for the sliding pin range whatever pin you choose tht to be?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

You got it!

[@quinn.g3487]

I don’t think you said this or if it is relevant but do you use your floating pin to find the 20 and 60

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there... yes, you use your 60yd pin at 20yds and 60yds to find the correct sight tape. Thanks for watching let me know if you have any other questions!

[@kendallwhite8344]

How do you go about Shooting this sight tape with fixed blade broad heads with some inconsistencies differed from Field point?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

There can be a TON of reasons why your fixed blade broadheads aren't flying with your field tips, but most common reasons are that the bow isn't tuned properly or the arrows aren't spined properly. Some broadheads just don't fly all that well, so that could be the issue. If the bow is tuned (not just paper tuned, but broadhead tuned, arrows are knock tuned etc), you should be able to go through this same process with this sight tape. Use field points to get the tape dialed and then switch over to broadheads.

[@MyCanoeCountry]

Okay, ive never seen a sight light this before. So please help me out. Your 20 yard mark (pen mark) was lower then the tape 20 yard mark you put on. Would that not make your 20 yard mark off?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks for watching and great question! Those pen marks name are only to obtain the gap between 20 and 60yds so I could then find the corresponding tape with the same gaps. Once I've got the correct tape, you can install your "zero" where you want and what works for your setup. I like my "zero", or, my 20yd pin at 20yds, set so the vertical slide is flush with the mounting bracket if that makes sense (I think I show that in the video if I remember right). Does that make any more sense?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@Bryan Bishop the purpose of being able to move the sight housing up or down is to be able to dial in the exact yardage if needed, including longer shots. I've dialed this sight out to 120yds. At longer ranges having an exact range is critical. But, realistically that more of a 3D or range practice scenario. Occasionally out west here there are situations where a longer shot might be ok, but I prefer to get closer of at all possible.

[@MyCanoeCountry]

@@BackwoodsPursuit okay, So help me.out here, so you have your 4 pins, are they equally spaced? So if you have your 20 yard mark at 20, and you want to dial in further. You move your 20 yard mark to say 60, and your lower pins would represent the same spacing as before or?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@MyCanoeCountry yeah, basically sight in each pin individually (20, 30, 40 etc or what yours is set up as). Whem you move the sight the pins gaps dont change so they would represent a different yardage. But, you real only use the one pin you've designated as your "floater"....or in my case my 60yd pin is my floater. Once the sight has been moved with the dial, my 60yd pin becomes my one usable pin essentially. You could estimate on the rest of the pins, but obviously they would be off.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@Bryan Bishop that's mostly correct. Yes, once you've found the sight tape that is right for your setup, move the sight back to flush, the make sure the red pointer is perfectly lined up with the 60yd mark on the tape. That was very intentional. Then, leave you sight flush and sight in each individual pin without moving the dial at all, just move the individual pins that correspond to 20, 30, 40 etc. That way you'll have the benefit of a fixed pin setup when the housing is set to flush, or zero, but if you want to dial past 60yds or to an exact yardage, you can do so using the 60yd pin and moving the dial. First though, make sure your bow is tuned. This process should not include moving your rest at all. The bow should be tuned before you go to set up the sight tape.

[@Ninjamovesbeh]

What stabilizers are you running?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

I'm using the S&S Archery Pro Hunter Pack which is made my Spyder Archery for S&S. Really like it after using it over the last couple years!

[@Ninjamovesbeh]

Backwoods Pursuit are you using 6” and 8” or the 8” and 10”

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@Ninjamovesbeh I'm using the 8" and 10".

[@Ninjamovesbeh]

Backwoods Pursuit thanks helps out a lot

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@Ninjamovesbeh absolutely! Let me know how you like them if you end up picking a set up. Thanks for watching!

[@hooper8935]

Got the ascent verdict single pin and I've went and marked out 30, 40, 50 and 60 yards on a blank white strip, while having my 20 zeroed at the tip top of the dial. Put the tape that was closest to Mark's and some were dead on others were not. I went out to 40 yards everything shot low. Bumped it down to the 45 hash and was dead on. Now I dont know if maybe my shaky hands marks are off on the blank sheet and theyre simply wrong or what. But I'm a little flustered with mine right now 😠

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hmm...that would be frustrating!! Maybe try just marking your 20 and 60yd hash marks, then find the tape the matches those two marks and see if that works. Let me know if that works!

[@hooper8935]

@@BackwoodsPursuit alright. I'll restart tomorrow. Double and triple check my 20 and then go straight to 60. And see what that does. Thanks.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Sounds good. Let me know how it goes and we'll go from there.

[@kendallwhite8344]

@@hooper8935 Whats the update of yours? ive marked out the same as you but scared to put the tape on lol.

[@hooper8935]

@@kendallwhite8344 I ended up rechecking at 60 the morning after posting this and all 4 arrows were hitting low. So I shot and shot and shot at 60 until I had it close on the vertical plain (not a very good shot, nor comfortable past 40 yards lol) and then I rechecked my 20 and put a new tape on. Fyi that fps stuff was wayyyy off. My bow chorono at 279. I think I got a 260 something tape on it

[@hondas2ooo]

Wheres the link to setting up the 2nd and 3rd axis?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Here you go! Sorry if it wasn't clear where it was! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJOXi3WVZqxmY7M

[@hondas2ooo]

@@BackwoodsPursuit thnks!!!

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@hondas2ooo you bet! Any time!

[@mrrock6070]

Sir, what type of release are you using?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there! I'm using the Carter Wise Choice in that video. Great release. Thanks for watching!

[@clarkansas6590]

Good information

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks!

[@steveaustin1820]

Why does Black Gold recommend to start with your carriage all the way to the top?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Great question Steve! I believe they recommend that to make sure you have the maximum clearance and downward adjustment. However, I prefer zero it when flush so I can love the housing down for longer shots AND up for precise shorter shots when needed. Personal preference though. Both ways work just fine. I still have enough housing clearance to shoot out to 120yds with this setup, so way more than I actually need lol! Thanks for watching!

[@steveaustin1820]

@@BackwoodsPursuit 120ds...damn...I had 4 years off due to cancer and I am just getting a 4 inch group at 25 yds...getting better...its just getting back in the saddle .70# mods on order for my VXR...Great posts you produce.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@steveaustin1820 oh man...so glad to hear you are doing ok and back using the bow! I bet it feels good to pick it back up! Haha..yeah, lots of practice, but it's fun to stretch it out a bit😁. Keep at it and thanks for watching!

[@steveaustin1820]

@@BackwoodsPursuit Question: I had a dry fire today and can see the peep rotated almost 90 degrees.While I was inspecting for the damage I had nothing to lose by taking a level edge to the rest pin alignment...way off.I have the 3 pin Mountain Light and notice you have your sight pins sitting farther down on your verticle dovetail.Going to take the bow in to inspect at my pro shop in the morning.My rest is a Hamksea Trinity...going to get some lessons also...lol.

[@steveaustin1820]

Another stupid question..I am ranging at meters...the tapes are in yards...I think its a matter of just changing the units on my rangefinder...always drama.

[@flexedout6650]

I’m confused. Why would’nt you set the 60 yard mark on the tape with the 60 yard mark you manually made? Isn’t the yardage off now?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Great question! The Mark's I made are just to get the correct gap between 20 and 60yds, which allows me to find the right sight tape. Once you have the correct sight tape selected you can then set you sight to "zero" and line up the 60yd point on the tape with your red marker. That make sense?

[@flexedout6650]

Backwoods Pursuit Yes gotcha, thanks for the reply

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@flexedout6650 absolutely! Any time.

[@zjohnsoncg]

@@BackwoodsPursuit Really helpful video, but I'm also confused on this point... I understand finding the 20 and 60 yard gap to select the right tape, but what I don't understand, is how can you then ARBITRARILY choose a 'zero'? The only way I can make sense of that working, is if you then (after arbitrarily choosing zero) have to adjust all pins to 'match' with the zero. If I wanted to zero the whole sight up higher to give the most arrow clearance as possible, wouldn't the pins have to be manually lowered way down in the sight housing? I don't even know if I'm making sense, I'm cross-eyed lol

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@zjohnsoncg haha no worries and great question! Once I've got the tape selected and set the sight back to zero, then I'll sight in my top pin to 20yds(or whatever yardage you choose to be your top pin) by moving the entire sight housing, not the individual pin. That way you keep the pins centered in the housing. Once the top pin is dialed by moving the housing, THEN you can move the other pins individually and get them sighted in. Does that make kore sense? Sorry if I didnt explain it very well!

[@nate_krysl]

Does the sight come with blank sight tapes or is that just a piece of white electric tape?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

It doesn't come with thr blank tape. I just used a white label and cut it down to size. Thanks for watching!

[@bradencurrent]

Why doesn’t the red arrow have to match the hash marks you made at the range? 20 looks a lot higher than what was marked

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Good question! The hash marks just get you the appropriate gaps needed to select the correct sight tape. Once you have the correct tape, you can set your "zero" where is best for you.

[@ericdobson8983]

When sighting in, Would it be a bad idea to use use the top pin to mark 20 thru 60 yds or beyond prior to matching it to the correct sight tape? Wondering if it’s worth the extra effort at all to be more precise when comparing multiple marks opposed to a 20 & 60 mark. Is it easy to replace the sight tape if you increase poundage on the bow? Also thank you for the clarification in other replies on being able to tune the sight pins after selecting the correct tape.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Yeah, you certainly could mark more yardage spots between 20 and 60 if you wanted to. I don't think its neccessary, but absolutely wouldn't hurt anything. If you do that drop some feedback here for me! If you decide to increase poundage or change your arrows etc, you'd have to redo your pins and sight tape because your pin gaps will have narrowed a bit if you increase poundage. Just start back with the blank white piece of paper and do the process over. You get pretty quick once you do it a few times. Thanks for watching and for the comment/question!

[@MrTactiCALi]

Is the only difference between the Mountain Lite 3 pin and the Ascent Verdict Assault 3 pin the micro adjust? If so, what site head would you recommend over the two? Thanks brother, dig the vids.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks for watching! They are mostly the same site, but the Mountain Lite has the dual indicator and the lighter weight base. To my knowledge the pins etc are all the same. If the dual indicator is something you think you'd use, it's a cool site. If not, go with the Ascent Verdict for simplicity.

[@808surferboy3]

I feel like you should have place the marker at 60 that you penciled in and then put the second tape on 60 line right under the marker????

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks for the question! The pencil makes are just to get the correct gaps for tape selection, then once you have the correct tape selected, you can stick it on there according to where you want your zero to be. Does that makes sense?

[@reddawng43x91]

No! I’m confused also! I’m doing this with a single pin black gold and want my adjustment flush but my first mark for 20 is above flush bottomed out

[@ericeg20]

I just got mountain lite. Im confused still with setting up the dual indicators. To set my 3 to 20 30 40 with indicators on 20 and 40 how do I get the right tape , also im confused your 2 pen marks are different then where your 60yd indicator was. Im new to this im really confused

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Congrats on getting a Mountain Lite! It's an awesome sight! If you haven't seen it yet, check out my video on the Mountain Lite specifically. That one shows how the dual pin indicators work. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d53FqGqFfdamhq8 Basically though, the two pin marks(20 and 60) are simply used to get the correct sight tape, then from there you can stick it on the vertical slide so the 20 and 40 line up with your 20 and 40 red markers(those red markers move if you need to adjust them). Check out that video above and if you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Hope that helps!

[@renatugaming5730]

what sucks is with my target bow setup, I need to use the recurve sight tapes because my bow is too slow for the compounds....I'm about 10-20fps short though. 270-300 grain arrow at 40 pounds gets me roughly 220-230 fps whereas the minimum for Lancaster's sight tapes for compounds are for 240 and up...

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks for watching! sounds like it might be just as easy to make your own sight tape for your situation?

[@renatugaming5730]

@@BackwoodsPursuit well I have to gradually make my way out to 20 yds because the furthest distance I've shot at was 10 yds..

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@renatugaming5730 gotcha. That works too!

[@Bigtrain1]

What's your draw length and draw lbs. Your humming for 492 grains.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

I'm sitting at 72lbs on the draw weight with a 30in draw. Yeah... It's moving pretty well for an arrow that weight!

[@Pariscj]

Will just getting it flush to start the tape throw off your other pins

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

No, that won't throw off the pins. You can put it back to flush to go through the process of finding the right tape without messing up your pin gaps. If you leave it flush when you install the sight tape, you'll have to move the whole sight housing to bring it back to sighted in, but that's pretty easy. That make sense?

[@Pariscj]

I think i can figure it out thanks for the speedy reply

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@Pariscj no problem at all!

[@livingidoutdoors941]

Good INfo, Thanks

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Absolutely! Thank you!

[@jordanschartz7578]

Shouldn’t you have had the red arrow on your 60 yard hash mark that you made before you put the actual sight tape on? You had it in between your two hash marks.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Great question! The mark I made on the blank tape was purely to find the correct gap so I could then find the corresponding sight tape with the same gap between the 20 and 60yd marks. From there you can set your vertical slide where you want, then put the actual sight tape on with the red marker lined up with the 60yd mark on the sight tape. Does that make sense?

[@jordanschartz7578]

@@BackwoodsPursuit but if you are moving the housing after you have marked where your 60 yard pin is then the pin has moved locations. So not making sense to me.

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

That's correct I did move the housing after I marked where the 60yd was, but that 60yd mark was relative to where I started when I moved the sight housing up to use the bottom pin as a 20yd pin. So, once I got that gap by marking 20yds and 60yds, I moved the sight back to my "zero" or the vertical slide flush for me (some start it all the way up...either way works). Once the sight is set to zero, I'll put my sight tape on with that red pin lined up to 60yds. Once the sight tape is on there, I leave it at zero and go to sighting in each pin by either moving the housing with the windage and elevation adjustments (not the vertical slide adjustments). This sight has a 2nd elevation adjustment that moves just the sight housing without turning the knob. the knob is only use to change yardage once you've got the sight all dialed in. Is that more clear?

[@boxerbeast]

@@BackwoodsPursuit so once you go to sight each individual pin, your floating (bottom) pin needs to be lined up with where you have the red arrow when the housing is flush?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@boxerbeast that's correct! Line up the sight tape(60yds for me as shown in the video) lined up with the red yardage marker when the vertical slide is flush, then go sight in each individual pin.

[@hillbillyphoto83]

Okay...first what is a floater pin and why is it important? Second why would you make your marks for 20 and 60 and then not even line them up with the sight tape? What's the point of sighting it in and then put the sight tape wherever? I'm really confused 😕

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there and thanks for the questions! The "floater" pin is just the pin you decide you want to use when you move the sight from its "zero" position. The floater is important if you are wanting to shoot longer distances and/or very precise yardages (like, say, 47yds) where you want to dial in the specific distances for a 3D tournament. As for marking the 20yd and 60yd, that's simply to get my gaps for a reference to then select the accurate sight tape from the options that Black Gold provides. Does that help or make any more sense?

[@hillbillyphoto83]

@@BackwoodsPursuit thx

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@hillbillyphoto83 any time!

[@mikewhitehead677]

So not quit understanding this. When you put the site tape on, you yardage wasn't even close to your marks that were made on the blank tape. Can you explain why?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks for watching Mike! Absolutely....the marks on the white piece of tape are purely meant to give me reference points at 20 and 60yds so I can then match up the corresponding tape. This works better than just going off you FPS reading on the chrono and gives you a more accurate reading to select which sight tape will work best for your specific setup. Once I have the markings for 20 and 60yds, I'll lined up the 60yd hash mark on the tape(since my 60yd pin is my floater) to the red indicator with the sight set to "zero" or, for my setup, flush with the top of the slide. Does that help?

[@jasong2729]

I have the same question as I just bought this sight this weekend along with the VXR 28 and want to get setup correctly. Mine has the dual indicator. I get using one pin to sight at 20 and 60 and using those marks to find the correct tape. I have the same confusion as Mike as to how you lined the tape up with your indicator at 60. Understood that pin is your floater. However, if you’re to shooting at 20, are you set with your top pin where it’s at without dialing it in?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey Jason! Congrats on the new sight! Exciting! Yes, you are correct. I lined up the 60yd mark on the tape with the red indicator with my sight zeroed out(at its base position). With the sight zeroed out, all the other fixed pins are sighted in without dialing the sight at all, so the 20yd pin is sighted in for 20yds, 30yd pin for 30yds etc. without moving the indicator. Does that help?

[@jasong2729]

@@BackwoodsPursuit that helps, I think I was just overthinking it. I'm just going to follow the instructions and your tutorial and I will be good!

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@jasong2729 sounds great! Feel free to reach out if you run into any trouble!

[@mansalaija]

Why use your floater pin at 60 yards if you only have 4 pins. If you run your pins 20, 30, 40 and 50 you can’t use your bottom pin as your floater at 60 correct? I’m assuming your pin setting is 30,40,50 and 60 right? After doing this, then you have to sight in your pins independently correct?

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@mansalaija hey there! If the bottom pin is the floater, whatever that bottom pin represents (60yds for mine) is where you would align the red arrow with your tape. If 50yds is your bottom pin align the red arrow with 50yds on the tape when you install the tape. My setup is 27, 40, 50, 60, so my bottom pin is set for 60yds. Thanks for watching!

[@toreyyoung1518]

One discrepancy in your version, I have a five pin sight and I sighted in all my pins 2360 if I crank up my site where the arrow is pointing at 20 my 60-yard pin can never be my floater because it will not go up that high. I have to use a 40-yard pin as my floater your version is not foolproof or you miss something when making this video

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks for pointing that out. You are correct in that when using the 60yd pin as my floater, it cannot be moved up enough to shoot a 20, or possibly even a 30yd us shot. I know that's a limitation of this setup, but I'm ok with that as I almost never use my floater for shot yardage shots. I use it for anything over 60 yards or more precise shots at, say 47yds or 53yds etc. Thanks for the insight and thanks for watching.

[@tsump2005]

THIS IS A HIGH DOLLAR SIGHT WITH A CHEAP TAPING SYSTEM THAT NEEDS TO BE REDESIGNED. I HAD TO USE A HHA YARDAGE TAPE!

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Thanks for watching! Curious what made you have to use the HHA tape on the sight? Thanks for the feedback!

[@garrettdraper416]

Got a spot hogg fast eddie xl and the tapes that came with mine are spot on I can shoot out to about 120 yards if I want

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@garrettdraper416 awesome! I'm playing with that Fast Eddie XL right now. Seems like a great sight as well!

[@tsump2005]

@@garrettdraper416 What is your opinion of the spot hogg sight? Is it built well and does it hold up against bad weather etc

[@garrettdraper416]

@@tsump2005 I have a fast eddie xl and also a spot hogg hogg it and I love them both have not had a problem with either of them I like the double pin of the fast eddie xl thinking about buying another one for my hunting set up because I am way more accurate

[@sticks7971]

Black gold sight tapes are garbage

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

Hey there! Sounds like you've had a bad experience with the Black Gold sight tapes?

[@sticks7971]

@@BackwoodsPursuit lol . Yep. Love the sight . Ive used 3 different tapes . Still hoping to find one in there though

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@sticks7971 yeah, I've found the FPS related to the tape.not to be that accurate...it's more of a general area. I've had good success with their tapes if I use the method in this video though. They've been accurate out to 100yds for me. Thanks for watching!

[@sticks7971]

@@BackwoodsPursuit you bet. Thanks for the video. Ill keep trying

[@BackwoodsPursuit]

@@sticks7971 absolutely! Let me know how it goes.