BAD BATCH Season 3 Trailer Reaction & Discussion!

[@plutoniumparker3849]

"Obi-Wan's boo thing is back" That whole bit had me dying HAHA

[@Eva_H]

Quinlan Vos said hi

[@ebanksstudios]

The producer said on the Star Wars website they're not retconning the Dark Disciple book

[@DarthTingleBinks]

Brad Rau, the showrunner, has said that Ventress' return in the show won't contradict anything in Dark Disciple. So she did die. And she is back. We just don't yet know why or how she's back.

[@hdudhehdhd2222]

Probably a clone or something, to line up w the kamino experiments. Personally I would kinda dislike that but we’ll see how they handle it. Or maybe the dark disciple story remains relatively the same but is just moved up in the timeline to shortly after bad batch? Who knows

[@VanSisean]

I do wonder what motive Palpatine would have for wanting to clone Ventress (of all possible force users), since he did not think very highly of her even when she was Dooku's acolyte despite growing apprehensive about her increasing power (though maybe Dr. Hemlock and/or someone else associated with Mt. Tantiss is doing it on their own initiative if she is a clone). Even moreso, I wonder how the writers could conceivably move the "Dark Disciple" storyline to the early Imperial era, since it originally revolved around the Jedi Council's assassination plots against Dooku involving the Ventress-Vos partnership, and Dooku and most of the Jedi Council members (except Yoda and Obi-Wan) are already unambiguously deceased by most indications.

[@DarthTingleBinks]

I think both of you are forgetting that the Nightsisters aren't strangers to resurrection. And Merrin is still on Dathomir at this point. Not to mention Morgan Elsbeth (not exactly sure how you spell her last name) might be alive and young here, as well. Both could easily have revived her. So what I want to know isn't necessarily how, but why. Who would have a reason to bring her back?

[@VanSisean]

@@DarthTingleBinks I agree that it is more likely (and, in my opinion, preferable) that Ventress is brought back via Nightsister magick, rather than through cloning or simply moving some variation of the "Dark Disciple" storyline to the timeframe of "The Bad Batch." I would also likely be content with a flashback (or several thereof) to "Dark Disciple" in the TCW era, but the official entry for Ventress on the "Star Wars" website now explicitly states the following: "Ultimately, Ventress sacrificed herself to save Quinlan’s life, taking the brunt of Dooku’s Force lightning during their final confrontation. But that wasn’t the end of Asajj’s story…"

[@nikulus2840]

@@hdudhehdhd2222 They can't move it to after Bad Batch, because the whole plot takes places during TCW, and they are trying to assassinate Dooku. If they move it to after Bad Batch, there is no Dooku to assassinate.

[@RainyCarnival]

Just noticed the channel name change. Love you guys

[@katiecooper1387]

Omg that’s so cool!

[@markmckeever3237]

Holden's reaction to Ventress' return was epic. So looking forward to the final season. 🖖

[@ssj3raditzkingofallhair248]

Bro I saw a mirror of my reaction watching this, I love it!

[@Pinkielover]

Grand Admiral Thrawn in Ahsoka said "I thought it was beyond you to underestimate a Jedi. After all, death and resurrection are common deceptions played out by both Nightsister and Jedi." did she die yes is she resurrected? Yes, she was placed into a green pool by Obi-Wan and Quinlan Vos I believe. That alone, you know it was going to happen. She deserves a better story if it was going to end for her... I for one hope they have more adventures of her. Maybe her meeting back up with Quinlan Vos and going on adventures together .. would be an interesting show if they had another series with those two

[@Tze52]

It's amazing seeing Jen as excited for more Star Wars. Coming from a absolute fresh viewer to an enthralled and avide enjoyed!

[@HeatKingMedia]

I had been thinking to myself a few weeks ago how I wanted them to retcon the Dark Dsiciple Novel and bring Ventress back. My face was in utter disbelief seeing her in the trailer. I hope she's actually alive and not a clone. And I also double hope her and Vos are together and that they survive to return in the Mandaverse shows or films.

[@acdragonrider]

They are the only characters in recent Star Wars history to also have an actual long relationship that’s both romantic and hot. Hahaha. Star Wars really doesn’t like focusing on romantic relationships

[@zacharyyoung9646]

Despite the Showrunners saying they're still respecting what happened in the Book. Implying they're not retconning it

[@Iwillone]

Resurrection is on the table when it come to the night sisters of Dathomir.

[@2apocalypse-X]

​@@zacharyyoung9646 in the book Obi-Wan Kenobi and Vos bury Asajj Ventress in a pool of water on Dathomir. The pool is located in the village of the Nightsisters, and contains the magicks and spirits of the deceased Nightsisters. When Ventress' body enters the water, the pool turns green and the voices of the deceased Nightsisters are heard.

[@zacharyyoung9646]

@@2apocalypse-X I've read the book. I'm aware she is buried. I'm also worried about her return here

[@boomieboo]

Now my head canon theory that Shin is the love child of Asajj Ventress and Quinlan Vos can actually be true. Casting ideas for older Asajj Ventress live action depiction: - Cate Blanchett - Uma Thurman - Angelina Jolie For a younger Asajj: - Evan Rachel Wood - Cara Delevingne - Margot Robbie (not realistic but had to mention) - Lauren Cohan (Maggie of TWD)

[@josiahmontiel5663]

Please do Surfs Up. Such an underrated film with a ton of great backstory.

[@georgieboy7]

I was totally expecting Vader to show up, instwad Ventress did! Haha 😂 so good to see her.

[@firecat4529]

3:12 he look with the hair and yello lightsaber is the exact one from the released unfinished animatics from the cancelled Dark Disciple Clone Wars arc

[@PaulGuy]

Echo had a shot in the trailer, too. So he's very likely to be back. You are right that he had a lot of overlap with Tech, so him leaving made sense. It gave some character evolution as he left the group and joined the fight against the Empire. Tech dying would open a spot for him, and give him an opportunity to continue that growth by helping rescue Omeega, as the Batch is like immediate family.

[@zaandarbrow]

Just reacted! Yo I’m so dope for Ventress! We never saw her go on screen so I’m hyped!

[@awesomecoolguy7541]

When I first watched this trailer, if my roommate wasn't in the room, I would've been leaping!

[@joc.4992]

Ventures is not dead (YET)

[@jmoney6782]

I'm so ready for this season! Looks so good!

[@Vandicoup]

When you bring up Tech's death and that he shouldn't come back...now if only the full, planned 8 episode Dark Disciple arc had actually made it onscreen into TCW, with that epic conclusion to her entire arc and the pivotal and utterly heart-wrenching sacrifice she made in saving an equally badass force-wielder known as Qui-Gon, would everyone have still been nearly as open and welcoming to her returning in any way, shape or form as most are right now? Yeah...I'm with Holden on this one. It's essential to have consistency ALL across the board. It emanates base-level creative competency and a sign of actual, quality storytelling while rightfully giving genuine appreciation and respect for the franchise we all know and love so much. They used to be soo much better at it before George Lucas sold it all off to Darth Disney....

[@patrickpugh8101]

Ventress did not die in clone wars. She dies in a spin off novel.

[@philip07304]

Everyone seems to believe that Tech is dead even though we didn’t see a body so there is a way that he survived that fall.

[@braidentoelke2735]

So ventress never died in any show or movie, however there is a Canon novel where she meets her demise. It looks like this may retcon her death BUT the director of the show says it will line up with the book, rather than rewrite it. Ig we will just have to wait and see

[@JaceLorran]

Seeing this trailer for the second (or third) time now and I just noticed towards the end when Hunter is telling the trooper that they don’t usually follow orders, there was a familiar looking blaster rifle barrel just in front of Hunter.

[@JaceLorran]

But also, if Crosshairs rejoins The Bad Batch, then who the heck is the guy in the Crosshairs-like armor at the head of the troopers ??? A clone of Crosshairs ??? Maybe a clone of Tech ???

[@Laochri]

As with George Lucas saying his Star Wars was 4,5,6 then 1,2,3, and later Clone Wars. Anything else was extra. I'm looking at Assajj Ventress coming back. Some are theorizing that the dark armored figure is Tech. As you know from the episode you just released here, the Assassin tasked with killing Senator Chuchi, was wearing that same armor.

[@veritaz212]

I don't think it's a retcon, she looks EXACTLY like she did in Dark Deciple. I'm betting it's a flashback to catch up those that didn't read the novel in the interest of bring back Quinlin Voss. We know he's around they mentioned him in Kenobi on the wall at "The Path".

[@madisonwhovian943]

Looks like we'll get to watch the new seasons of Avatar and The Bad Batch together!! I'm so excited for February!

[@LousyNine]

Ventress's death wasn't exactly confirmed, it was more or less implied, and we all know that if a death is implied, it rarely means that they are actually dead. At first I thought more or less, How is she alive, and if they explain it well, I think it could be a great decisions.

[@MarvinMartinez2001]

Ventress Supremacy!!!

[@georgieboy7]

Now its time for Avatar Last Air Bender trailer reaction!!!!

[@Meowtro]

The books and comics don't matter. They might say they are canon but they can retcon them at any time with on screen content.

[@hobbricks_lego_man]

0:35 - I honestly haven't agreed with a sentiment regarding Star Wars this much for a long time. As someone who loved this show basically from the beginning, it's good to know I'm not the only one. Bad Batch might not be the objective best Star Wars story, but it's connected with me personally the most out of everything Disney has done with the franchise.

[@troyfortsch4440]

Confusion over Ventress : love her character, just remember the Cannon hierarchy! 1)Movies 2) live action TV 3) Animation 4) Novels 5) Comics Anything below live action can/has been ret-conned

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

The animated shows are of a higher canon than the live action shows.

[@JessAnderson1988]

That really is not true. The canon hierarchy is: on screen takes first priority, off screen takes second priority. Movies and television shows (animated and live action) all stand on the same level of canon.

[@fpgmatthew]

Ventress dies in a book called Dark Disciple. This book takes place DURING the Clone Wars. We of course know Bad Batch takes place AFTER the Clone Wars According to the official Star Wars website, this season will NOT clash with the original book story. If true, Ventress is either seen in a flashback, or cloned Nevertheless, very excited!

[@thewheatharvester9156]

Could this be the recently deceased Asajj Ventress? Death and resurrection are common deceptions played out by both night sister and Jedi alike. For now we shall consider Asajj Vetress alive until we know otherwise. And we shall prepare accordingly.

[@dylankoch1757]

I am hoping so badly that we get the rest of Delta Squad in this season (because what's the point of giving us so much Scorch if they aren't going to give us Boss and Fixer as well?) and my left-field hope for this season is that Rex's contacts for helping Clones escape the Empire have been Kal Skirata and Captain Ordo (fans of the Republic Commando novels know who I'm talking about)

[@Eclypse_77]

Avatar the last Airbender trailer next?

[@Itssmorfintime5]

I’m so excited for this!! Not ready to lose anyone else but it’s Star Wars. So we will. 😢

[@dungeonmaster16]

so on ventress status id dead/alive. warning this is "maybe" spoilers. i said maybe because this maybe retconned by filoni but we dont know yet so heads up. 3 2 1 when clone warswas initially cancelled they had to wrap up certain arcs in books. one of them is dark discibple which focus on ventress after s5 cancellation. she fell in love with the jedi quinlan vos which you saw in clone wars during the hunt for ziro (jabbas nephew if you remember) arc. stuff happen with eventually she died, quinlan title of jedi was stripped but because of that he was safe from order 66. in kenobi show in the hidden tunnel when kenobi was looking at names on the wall he saw quinlan name on it so he is still alive. overall this is a huge surprise so we gotta see whats been updated and planned by filoni for her in the show.

[@dungeonmaster16]

to add: this is not the first stuff was retcon by filoni. in bad batch s1 episode 1 the padawan and his master that the group met the young one is caleb dume aka kanan jarrus in rebels. in the kanan comic he and his master was on a vastle different planet and how she died and him escape was different. in tales of the jedi the last episode with ahsoka years after clone wars they changed that from the book they did for her.

[@RZONE2000]

not sure if its true but rumors are that tech is in this trailer. The black armor figure before the troops of the empire/ if that is true i wil flip

[@JayStephens8]

I am curious how ventress will return I know said they won’t be retconning dark disciple but idk if this is before or after would be great to see Quinlan Vos back and have some time with Ventress

[@datoneguy436]

To this day, i still can't figure out if they actually think Ventress and Obi-Wan had a thing or if it's just a running joke

[@jonathanthompson4539]

It always surprises me that people don't understand how Star Wars canon work. George Lucas never considered anything outside the main media (e.g. films and tv) canon. now obviously that has changed since Disney bought it. But Filoni/Favreau work as it's all canon until the main media states otherwise. So books and comics etc are canon until a film or tv show contradicts it.

[@Darth_Mornabin]

Yeah … I guess this the reason why book and comic authors got their own era with the high republic. So, they don‘t have to fear their work gets to be retconned in the near future eventually.

[@restlessoblivion]

Lol it was funny how Jen was NOT about to listen to Holden go on about true death and retcons in the Star Wars canon

[@im_nic]

Retcons don't matter to me as long as the ends justify the means. What I mean by that is , feel free to "resurrect" characters just as long as you have a good story to tell. Darth Maul is an example of someone who benefitted greatly from being brought back, and even to an extent Ahsoka (post duel with Vader). However, Boba Fett and Palpatine's resurrections are examples of returns that were not justified in the stories that were told, and were just flat out bad. I know the cannon books have their fans, but this is a company first and foremost that cares more about views than canon. Ventress will for sure get people to watch the show, and I just hope that the Bad Batch have a good story to tell with her.

[@ryanross9012]

A lore expert I like watching said season 2 takes place in 19 bby, and ventress dies in 20 bby.

[@JacobLunbeck]

They have said that Ventress' appearance in the show is going to be consistent with the events of "Dark Disciple". Hopefully her still being alive is explained well.

[@IrvinAnzora]

There’s a fan made video called Clone Wars: Battle of Heros made by HELLO THERE Will not disappoint would be fun to see you guys react to it. Basically revenge of the sith in animation

[@Naruto_uzumaki120]

Remember there never dead unless you see the body

[@MKULTRAMARCI]

Has Jen seen interstellar yet if not yall should do a reaction unless yall already did it lol. Also holden idk if your a gamer but are you gonna get dragon ball sparking zero it's budokai tenkaichi 4. Budokai tenkaichi 3 was the best dragon ball game ever. Also man I don't know what's going on with super we need the Moro & granola arc. I'm trying to see more of black frieza and beast gohan animated.

[@Flashpoint333]

Ventress died in the book “Dark Disciple” killed by Dooku

[@Darth_Mornabin]

Yeah, Ventress supposedly died in a book called dark disciple. (The book takes place between season 6 and 7 of The Clone Wars-show.) The producers of the bad batch-show said, that apparently the events of dark disciple will still be canon with the bad batch-season 3. (Wonder how that works, since in the book Ventress corpse had a funeral.) The design of Ventress is also the same as in the book. But yeah, if Ventress lives now … There is a chance to see her in live action. (Like Ahsoka-Season 2 or Skeleton Crew …) By the way, If you‘ve got time Holden: A review to the book like the son of dathomir comic would be cool for sometime in the future.

[@HoldenHardman]

I live to serve: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4mQpqyOYsmdra8

[@matteobattaglia9929]

She died in a novel but never on screen. Killing her off in a book was dumb.

[@buchulesobayeni6445]

Avatar trailer?

[@ssj3raditzkingofallhair248]

Very far out theory, but with todays massive star wars changes and added law, I'd say it's possible.. Maybe.. like from the ahsoka series, the mothers magic resurrected her? She is a nightsister from dothimer after all? Just a thought 😊

[@Ethan0o0]

Hi there, Holden and Jen. Have either of you had the chance to check out the new "Avatar: The Last Airbender" live action Netflix trailer yet?

[@brianmain8386]

I had the same reaction when I heard her voice too. Almost fell out of my chair. Would you guys be interested in Halo in the future

[@Puckett.]

Where’s the Avatar Trailer Reaction?

[@fs_raf]

so excited to see you watch this season, also love the new name!

[@acdragonrider]

Would recommend watching the Masters of the Air show!

[@ZackMuffinMan]

So excited!

[@marshsundeen]

The creators say that this will not counter the Dark Disciple book.

[@seventycross0yt175]

Ventress never died she was a bounty Hunter

[@TenaciousEvil]

Matt’s right😂😂

[@acdragonrider]

I’ve never heard anyone call Ventress a squeeze 😅😅😅😅

[@mrwatermelo50]

Looks very Star Wars, LOVING IT

[@jasonvoorhees310]

I don't mind them retconning Ventress death. It was in the novel and I don't think the shows and films should have to adhere to the novels. Keep it to what we've seen on screen and theaters.

[@RainyCarnival]

The problem is that they said that the books were supposed to be as canon as the shows and movies. Still excited though

[@OneRandomVictory]

If the books don't matter then why should anyone read them?

[@jasonvoorhees310]

@@RainyCarnival I think that's the mistake they made personally. Should have just kept them separate. They don't adhere to the comics. Novels should be treated the same.

[@jasonvoorhees310]

@@OneRandomVictory I'm not saying they don't matter. Just let it be it's own thing. They could do some really cool stories that way.

[@OneRandomVictory]

@@jasonvoorhees310 Why does a cool story have to mean trampling over what was already there? All that's going to do is piss people off. Also, doing so does not guarantee that the new story will be any better. I still think Kanan's backstory was way better in the comics than what happened in The Bad Batch. And because of that, the first episode of The Bad Batch always leaves a sour taste for me.

[@jakecowsert6185]

Have they all ready watched the last season 2 episodes?

[@ElvisC506]

Yes

[@jakecowsert6185]

@@ElvisC506 i only see them done 9 and 8

[@beejee6308]

@@jakecowsert6185 They watched all the episodes months ago, they're only just releasing them on KZbin now

[@jakecowsert6185]

@@beejee6308 oh ok tbh this video little ruined to see her reaction with crosshairs last scenes

[@AdrianVasquez-fq1eu]

It shows us ventress before her death

[@hoodie7587]

I believe this is 2 or 1 years before she die in the comic

[@beejee6308]

No, the novel takes place during The Clone Wars

[@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb]

Just watch the Clone Wars movie instead

[@bryanperez7408]

hyped for this season sadly its the last.

[@crackboii]

I don’t believe Dave won’t make another animated show.

[@matthewrowley9679]

Please don't put Bad Batch season 3 behind a pay wall.

[@markobelobrajdic9271]

No Ventress didn't die. There was an Anime Clone wars before Clone Wars came out where she did die but in the Series with Filoni she didn't. There are even Comics and a Novel that continue her story from Scripts of episodes never completed.

[@berroclesecorner]

the thing is she died in the novel, or it was implied pleased to see her return

[@Bonuloft]

She did die, in the Dark Disciple novel that is based on the scripts of unproduced episodes of the show. They'll probably explain it by saying it was a fakeout or that she was resurrected.

[@vac1376]

She died in the dark disciple comic or it was heavily heavily implied. She died to Dooku to save quinlin voss its well known to most people that is the sudden surprise to everyone that she is alive.