BAD MOVE?! Sony wants another Andrew Garfield Toby Maguire Tom Holland Multiverse movie?!

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Kristian Harloff

Kristian Harloff

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@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
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@BGilStudios
@BGilStudios 9 ай бұрын
I think what marvel and Sony needs to do in a whole is let Peter Parker grow up then retire and let Miles Morales take over as the one and only Spider-Man. just like how it is in the current Spider-Man game series
@WhyteLis21
@WhyteLis21 9 ай бұрын
I rather see Denzel start in Indie comic book movies or tv show. No Marvel or DC comic movie or tv show is necessary.
@MHoran86
@MHoran86 8 ай бұрын
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@jaredtptns
@jaredtptns 8 ай бұрын
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@thedefinitionisthis
@thedefinitionisthis 9 ай бұрын
Plain and simple, I don't want to see these 3 together again until the potential Marvel-wide "Secret Wars" crossover. There was magic to how they brought these 3 together the first time. It should be an event; not some regular gathering.
@CharlesEdmond79
@CharlesEdmond79 9 ай бұрын
Denzel as an older Kang would be extremely good if not absolutely fantastic.
@robertcolon6719
@robertcolon6719 9 ай бұрын
I never thought of Denzel. You are correct that would be fascinating Kang!!! He knows how to play a bad guy.
@matthewk4912
@matthewk4912 9 ай бұрын
I can see him being like a evil Conqueror version of his Equalizer.
@jmartman13
@jmartman13 9 ай бұрын
Tom deserves his own TRUE solo Spidey movie. The previous trilogy was more focused on tying him into the Avengers and the Multiverse
@Joshcoshbagosh
@Joshcoshbagosh 9 ай бұрын
Ya that was my main issue with those movies. All of them felt so dependent on the wider universe and other characters
@thedefinitionisthis
@thedefinitionisthis 9 ай бұрын
To play devil's advocate, that's part of what really set it apart from the other two actors' sets of movies. We had already seen two Spider-Men operate in their own universes where they're the only hero in the playground (so to speak). If you're gonna redo this character in cinema for A THIRD TIME, common sense tells you not to do the same thing over again (which was a major criticism of the Garfield movies, when they redid the Uncle Ben death). What happens when the hero (a teen, no less) operates in a world inhabited by the Avengers who, in of themselves, are celebrities that are looked up to? I think the movies did a good job of showing how someone like Spider-Man would believably operate in that universe, and still develop him as a character. It's not unlike the comics where he does have these resources and connections. It's funny how after Andrew Garfield's movies, fans clamored for something different. The Tom Holland movies do just that (while adhering to later iterations of the character in the comics), and now fans want to revert back to what they had before lol.
@bamm86
@bamm86 9 ай бұрын
@@thedefinitionisthisdisagree. These studios need to have some balls and stop with the fan service. Make something with some substance. People are tired of all this universe crap.
@thedefinitionisthis
@thedefinitionisthis 9 ай бұрын
@@bamm86 The fan-service happened in one movie, and it was pretty substantial. While you're not necessarily wrong in terms of the studios needing to make something of substance, or needing to stop this "universe" crap; nothing about the Tom Holland Spidey movies indicated they were merely "cashing in". "No Way Home" can be argued for its fan-service, but that movie at least did it in a way that actually served a story and character purpose for Holland's Spidey, while retroactively addressing the "issue" that he wasn't the "true" Spider-Man fans wanted. He was part of the MCU, period. Interconnectivity is a given.
@bryanpowell2388
@bryanpowell2388 9 ай бұрын
Y’all acting like we didn’t get that with Tobey and Andrew Garfield spider-man
@jesussalazar1901
@jesussalazar1901 9 ай бұрын
I think that the Spider-verse movies (as great as they are) have fundamentally change the perception of Spider-man of a street character to a multiverse character.
@karn6213
@karn6213 9 ай бұрын
Only because those movies are very good. Spider-Man has always worked better as a street and solo character, in comics, cartoons and movies; much like DC's Batman.
@spicymemes7458
@spicymemes7458 9 ай бұрын
I think people would rather Raimi Spiderman 4 and Amazing Spiderman 3 before No Way Home 2.
@MikeySkywalker
@MikeySkywalker 8 ай бұрын
What? No friggin way bro.
@ronsworld250
@ronsworld250 9 ай бұрын
IMO, a more grounded Spidey film w/ Holland, Matt, and Fisk and maybe a never seen villain like Scorpion would be money. NWH, is still my favorite live action film and I would love to see Andrew and Tobey again but I think they should save them for Secret Wars.
@kurtmaryville4941
@kurtmaryville4941 9 ай бұрын
Tobey was a late-twenties, extra goofy, “high school” kid who was absurdly dopey in those spider-man movies. And MJ in danger all 3 movies just screaming. How creative. Lets respect whatever those movies did and keep moving forward.
@ShaneStLaurent
@ShaneStLaurent 9 ай бұрын
I love Andrew and Tom, but if Spidey is going to team with anyone it should be Daredevil, Punisher, and Echo to fight Kingpin and people like Hammerhead.
@jmorgan3977
@jmorgan3977 9 ай бұрын
Daredevil, yes. But Spider-Man with Punisher and Echo? Weird pitch.
@ShaneStLaurent
@ShaneStLaurent 9 ай бұрын
@@jmorgan3977 Spiderman and Punisher have teamed up numerous times in the comics.
@nathancullinan5195
@nathancullinan5195 9 ай бұрын
i honestly think they should give tobey and andrew their solo movies they were promised and give those universes their well deserved send offs then after continue with mcu tom holland spiderman the direction they were going with him at the end of no way home with him going to college and standing on his own 2 feet for once, sadly probably not going to happen for tobey and andrew but damn i hope it does
@nubby2790
@nubby2790 9 ай бұрын
I compare Superman: Legacy and the DCU to The Incredibles universe. The Incredibles and the sequel have quite a few superheroes appear, but the focus of the story remains on the Parr family. This is also how the DCU will operate. The focus of Legacy will be on Superman.
@TheEclipseBerserk
@TheEclipseBerserk 9 ай бұрын
I need Andrew solo, Tobey solo, maybe a Tom solo, and then bring them back together again
@lordofthebricks1
@lordofthebricks1 9 ай бұрын
I think it's desperate move. They worked perfectly in third movie, and they had really nice ending. Why finally not have 1 grounded Spider-man without Iron-Man or any other hero in his own movie, I would love to see that finally.
@tjm6794
@tjm6794 9 ай бұрын
Denzel wouldn’t commit to marvel long term but a replacement kang for one movie is a sweet deal
@99annanic
@99annanic 9 ай бұрын
If Kang is still part of the plan, I would want Denzel to play Kang. We can say that Majors was playing a younger, inexperienced and over his head version of Kang and the version we see in the Avengers films is an older, wiser, experienced and scarier version of the character and a more threatening version for The Avengers. Plus if Marvel struggle to get RDJ, Evans and Johansson involved then having Denzel playing Kang could convince them to come back.
@therealmccoyruf
@therealmccoyruf 9 ай бұрын
Plus I feel like Jonathan majors was already kinda channeling Denzel as kang anyway, so now it’ll be like here’s the real one
@karn6213
@karn6213 9 ай бұрын
This is the problem when you have business suit execs in charge of art. This sounds like people who don't know wtf they are doing, at all. Do a Tobey Maguire Spider-Man move with his daughter Mayday Parker, who is discovering her powers and wants to help people like him and how that causes friction between him and MJ(bring back Dunst who is having a resurgence). This alone, something off the top of my head, is far more interesting and easily more profitable than the freaking Madame Web movie.
@jarednavarrete1740
@jarednavarrete1740 9 ай бұрын
That and maybe different live action Spider-Men throughout the multiverse (i.e. 2099, Spider-Gwen, Noir). Would be more appropriate for a shared universe literally called "SONY'S SPIDER-MAN UNIVERSE".....
@elisediels749
@elisediels749 9 ай бұрын
I believe the main issue with Spiderman 4 is that Feige wants it to be smaller and grounded and involve Daredevil, Fisk, etc. Sony wants to bloat it with all this other stuff. Most fans agree with Feige, but the contract makes this a problem. Either way, I'm down for more Spiderman and less SpiderOthers.
@tysonpennington7970
@tysonpennington7970 9 ай бұрын
I think Millie Alcock is gonna be supergirl. She’s a great actress with a really beautiful and unique look, plus she’s the tallest of everyone that was in contention. I simply think she brings the most to the table.
@GalaxyGeeks
@GalaxyGeeks 9 ай бұрын
I lean towards Meg Donnelly, not just because of zombies, but she is someone audiences watched her grow up in American Housewife, also you got to see her in a more hardened serious role in the Winchesters. She has shown that softness and hardness through out her career
@ChironBroderick
@ChironBroderick 9 ай бұрын
Why is Winston giving out our Chick-Fil-A tactics? What is he, Tekashi 69?
@russellamador
@russellamador 9 ай бұрын
The chemistry and banter between these three is unmatched Fridays are for the superheroes haha
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 9 ай бұрын
Agreed! But also they gotta dial it back like 15%...Coy and Winston shouting over each other was giving me a headache
@MikeySkywalker
@MikeySkywalker 8 ай бұрын
@@ZachBobBobI don’t mind. It’s usually when they are excited. Also it’s mostly just Winston lol
@ReelPodcasts
@ReelPodcasts 9 ай бұрын
Winston's comment about turning Madame Web into an original story is kind of the angle I felt produced the movie in the first place. They took an original script and dropped Spiderman characters into it.
@gsarngad
@gsarngad 9 ай бұрын
I don't know what they spent on Madame Web, but I wonder if they can pull an Anyone But You and stick around with the teen girls because of the Sydney Sweeney of it.
@uDaftBugger
@uDaftBugger 9 ай бұрын
Bad plan? Not from a money-making perspective. the last film nearly made 2 billion during the COVID period. So to then go back and do a grounded Solo movie is almost a step backwards. And obviously remembering that Sony and Marvel profit from this deal very differently. Sony benefits most from the Solo movies and probably not the Avengers Movies. So would they really be willing to go smaller just so Marvel could go big later on? No, Sony want their piece of the pie too. So the larger the box office the happier Sony will be.
@saipelekima5675
@saipelekima5675 9 ай бұрын
I love that koy doesn’t do sports analogy’s 😂😂😂 absolute dawg in movies and comics but bring up sports zones out
@CoyJandreau
@CoyJandreau 9 ай бұрын
Too much to keep track of haha can’t are sports! Respect for em, just not my cuppa haha
@geekedmedia
@geekedmedia 9 ай бұрын
I'm hyped for the Sonyverse over the Mcu as of now. That said, have a grounded Spider-Man 4 with Daredevil/Kingpin, and have the post credits bring back Andrew/Tobey leading to Secret Wars.
@adreday10
@adreday10 9 ай бұрын
ill take the 3 spiderman movies. i also like the grindhouse idea for tobey and andrew. i want kingpin to enter the picture in the mcu spiderman with tom as he works himself back up from ground level. all these can be done as long as the multiverse is in play plus i always felt u may see all the Spiderman's again in secret wars for a last time
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 9 ай бұрын
Sony are so aggravating honestly! I think most fans got so excited at the end of No Way Home to see a street level, NYC focused Spidey movie and at this point everyone is sick and tired of multiverse shenanigans. I love Tobey and Andrew but I just want a Holland Spidey movie where he's just on his own having a classic adventure and not having his movie hijacked by cameos. The Home trilogy to me is excellent but I really wanna go back to basics again.
@dahhmlife
@dahhmlife 9 ай бұрын
Just finish Andrew's trilogy ffs. Then give Tom his time to shine on his own. Otherwise what was the point of going to the trouble of setting that up?
@Ruleof2Review
@Ruleof2Review 9 ай бұрын
Literally the only thing I want is Raimi’s Spider-Man 4. I’ll go see that 20 times in the theater.
@natea2006
@natea2006 9 ай бұрын
Why cant we all just wait and see these shows and movies before we declare them bad? Fandoms have gotten so toxic around anything that isnt exactly what they want.
@BleachO
@BleachO 9 ай бұрын
They need to do a more grounded solo Spider-man movie next. No Way Home was earned, they did it it was great. Now they need to earn it again. Do two Tom solo movies and then end with all 3 back again.
@williamgreen2949
@williamgreen2949 9 ай бұрын
Come on Sony, this is the way… Let Holland do a friendly neighborhood movie that leads into an amazing friends movie capped off in secret wars. Garfield solo and whatever else he wants to do. McGwire same as Garfield and maybe they get that team up like the guys mentioned. So many options 🛑, listen and hear the room. 💰 💰 💰 …. money
@HeisenStark13
@HeisenStark13 9 ай бұрын
Tom is being a diva. He is where he is because of this. He's so young he can do spiderman with all the indies his heart pleases in between for the next 10 years and still have a 30 year career after.
@CoyJandreau
@CoyJandreau 9 ай бұрын
Tom doesn’t owe you, or any of us, shit. If he doesn’t wanna do it. He shouldn’t.
@BushmasterH
@BushmasterH 9 ай бұрын
Both comments are true
@tomlewis4205
@tomlewis4205 9 ай бұрын
❤ this crew! So many great laughs! 😂
@prathapkutty7407
@prathapkutty7407 9 ай бұрын
Andrew and tobey deserve thier own solo movies.
@mildmanneredcomicnerd8849
@mildmanneredcomicnerd8849 9 ай бұрын
Great show!!! Those Miles Nikes look better then the PS5 Spider-Man 2 game.
@IndianaJake
@IndianaJake 9 ай бұрын
For some reason I just picture Denzel with a cigar in his mouth being a badass soldier / military guy. So for that reason I think he fits best as a DC character
@linusbabcock8724
@linusbabcock8724 9 ай бұрын
The Bears recent Emmys wins/nominations were for season one. Season two will be nominated at the next ceremony so Jammie Lee Curtis will be eligible for awards then
@ChironBroderick
@ChironBroderick 9 ай бұрын
Jessica Williams is great, ive been following her since The Daily Show.
@jeffreyroedel9804
@jeffreyroedel9804 9 ай бұрын
The last one was awesome but I like the idea of waiting a bit until we pick back up with Holland's story arc. Let the character age and let time pass based on what happened at the end of the last one. I think they should make one more multi-verse story, a side story with Garfield as the lead, but Garfield's spidey world opens up to Holland's again somehow, so Holland's Spidey is a big part of the last act of the movie, and that could all dove-tail into the next real Spider-Man movie that is grounded and more real and pushes Holland's series forward in terms of character. Rather than Maguire back (other than a cameo), I think this one should introduce a live action Miles Morales and his Gwen (have Steinfeld star) for an extended sequence. Do something like this for 2025 and relaunch the story of the Holland series in 2026 :)
@1983beau
@1983beau 9 ай бұрын
They banned popcorn for Schindler's List. Popcorn is the loudest of all snacks. Why have popcorn as the standard?
@lordofninjas1
@lordofninjas1 9 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you guys on the Spider-Man stuff, while I would love to see Tobey and Andrew's Spider-Men again I agree that they should not be in Tom's Spider-Man 4 and that Tom's Spider-Man 4 should be grounded and not this huge event thing. I also agree that right after NWH would have been the ideal time to do something with Tobey and something with Andrew, whether that be a 1-1 1/2 hour special for each or a buddy cop thing with them, or even have them have a major presence in the Spiderverse things or the Venomverse stuff and stuff like that, and that while it would be a bit tight on time that should be something they should consider doing. It's a high possibility they'll be in Secret Wars too. As far as Denzel being in either Marvel, Star Wars, or DC, I do think he would do well in any of them, but I do think the order of Marvel, Star Wars, DC is probably accurate to where he'll end up, because we haven't seen anything from the DCU and know very little about what's going on with it, Star Wars has a lot coming, supposedly, but no idea what they're doing or when they're doing it or anything, and while Marvel has had issues the last couple years with the fixes they're working on and such it seems most appealing to people. As far as who he could be in each of them, for Marvel I've been in support of him being Adam Brashear/Blue Marvel and his son John David Washington doing the flashback scenes of him when he was younger, I could also see him as the Kang recast but I don't think he'd want to. For Star Wars if they stick with the Skywalker Saga stuff I could see him being Lando's dad or whatever in the Lando project (if that ever comes out) or like Finn's dad or whatever, but I agree that he would do much better in an Old Republic or High Republic era story potentially as a Force user. For DC I could see him as Black Lightning or potentially John Stewart, maybe someone in the Waller series or something too like her ex-husband or something. There isn't much to say about Deadpool 3, so I'll just say I'm extremely excited to see the movie and I hope that Blake Lively gets cast as Lady Deadpool and Walker Scobell as Kidpool. For the Supergirl casting, I think both Alcock and Donnelly would do well as Supergirl, but Kristian swayed me a bit by saying Alcock is more well known and that it makes sense for alien beings like Clark and Kara to be more of an unknown presence and stuff, so I think Donnelly would end up as Supergirl, which is fine cause I fancast Alcock as my MCU Gwen Stacy anyways.
@mattsanders2207
@mattsanders2207 9 ай бұрын
Can we stop with the dinner in the theaters. You go to the theater to see a movie and a plate comes sizzling and smelling goes past you. Then you’re basically stuck in a box full of people’s farts from their sizzling fajitas or whatever. Let’s return to the classics, popcorn and drinks.
@TheSwaggyBlerd
@TheSwaggyBlerd 9 ай бұрын
iPic intentionally doesn’t bring anything like that. I would be gourmet finger food, salads and cocktails. Not hurting anyone
@xXCROSSFEEDXx
@xXCROSSFEEDXx 9 ай бұрын
If we have to have more Andrew and Toby, I just want them to have their respective sequels and that's it. No more crossovers, no more multiverse. At this point, I'm getting annoyed with people seeing one crossover and wanting it again and again and again. It happened, it was great, move on. Between 2021, 2022, and 2023, I'm just exhausted on the multiverse plot point. Which is why I'm not all excited for deadpool 3 because it sounds like a cameo fest. Btw regarding supergirl, I'm hoping it will be Alcock because I don't think the unknown actor rule applies here like it does with Superman. Not only is the exposure to the Supergirl name not that big, this iteration of Supergirl from woman of tomorrow is really unknown and I think getting someone that's mostly famous would work in their favor. Plus I'd argue we got a taste of Alcock's more whimsical, wholesome side early on in House of the Dragon; mostly in the beginning of episode 1 so I think she can have a good balance of both sides and physically she can look wholesome and have a physical edge whereas I don't think Donnelly can physically turn that part on
@nysimcharles33
@nysimcharles33 9 ай бұрын
One of My things with Sony is that they have access to 100+ different kinds of spidermen and they continue to only Peter Parker Spider-Man movies (besides Miles, Animation) and these Spider-Man villains nobody cares about without Spider-Man. Imagine a Spider-Punk, Gwen Stacey, Spider Noir, Cindy Moon, Scarlet Spider, SpiderMan 2099 and the list goes on and on. Hell even an Older Peter Parker Spider-Man Movie with MJ and Kids but they want to keep making Young Peter Parker Spider-Man Movies
@NarwhalJediOfTheSea
@NarwhalJediOfTheSea 9 ай бұрын
funny fking episode. my favorite show on the web. keep up the great work.
@BDJ725
@BDJ725 9 ай бұрын
I respect his opinion, but I don’t agree with Coy’s take on how “normal people” can enjoy things differently because we are not “hosts” on social media. I am in a white collar position, and I am critical as well as invested in what I see in the cinema. I do not get invites to screenings, but I still debate, defend and enjoy movies with my friends and family. Going to the cinema is a substitute for various vices for me. I still value what Coy has to say, and I am not trying to be disrespectful to him in his career choice.
@CoyJandreau
@CoyJandreau 9 ай бұрын
Then I mispoke. It’s not that people aren’t critical. It’s that we don’t get to not be. There’s no reality where just saying ___\ about any movie doesn’t come with inane discourse. It’s not fun to talk about movies or tv anymore. Didn’t mean any disrespect if it someone came across that way
@hito157
@hito157 8 ай бұрын
Denzel + Malcolm X = Magneto ...my math checks out! 😂
@magnifique909
@magnifique909 9 ай бұрын
I want Toby-Andrew movie so much! But Venom 3 as well))
@tgosselin2528
@tgosselin2528 9 ай бұрын
Bring 'em back! Granted, I really just want an Amazing Spider-Man 3 with Andrew Garfield... but I'll take him any way I can get him! 💯
@dorianchristian8568
@dorianchristian8568 9 ай бұрын
Haha.... Winston a wild boy!! "I used to get so much azz!"
@chriscossin
@chriscossin 9 ай бұрын
Denzel would be a great Darkseid in my opinion
@briansayles1615
@briansayles1615 9 ай бұрын
I want a three hour movie (four hour extended cut) of just the three Peters sitting and talking and telling each other stories.
@jesseowenvillamor6348
@jesseowenvillamor6348 9 ай бұрын
That's boring
@briansayles1615
@briansayles1615 9 ай бұрын
No it's not. I love movies that are just characters sitting in a room and talking. I just watched "The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial" on Paramount+ and it's one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. It was able to be tense and dramatic, and it allowed the actors to give amazing performances.
@jesseowenvillamor6348
@jesseowenvillamor6348 9 ай бұрын
@@briansayles1615 Well, this is not a court drama. What you're suggesting is just boring. Don't ever pitch this again.
@bigd4998
@bigd4998 9 ай бұрын
Coy is back 😍❤️❤️ I’m over multiverse and more grounded Spider-Man. Hopefully the rumors aren’t true
@shoWbitz
@shoWbitz 9 ай бұрын
If Denzel goes to a big IP Franchise Films, please include John David Washington in it!
@TheBenperri
@TheBenperri 9 ай бұрын
I’m a regular guy and I have the Alamo Drafthouse season pass. I got to see 152 films last year. Lucky I guess. 😊
@slimhimbo
@slimhimbo 9 ай бұрын
I think it would be interesting if Tom got a more grounded film and if they decided to kill off his Spidey at the end so he could move on they could introduce live action Miles and have him some how introduced to one of or even both Tobey and Andrew’s Spider-Men similar to ITSV and he can learn what it means to be Spider-Man from them but also learn more about Holland’s version through Tobey/Andrew’s experience meeting him
@metallicnole4514
@metallicnole4514 9 ай бұрын
Killing off Tom’s spider man to set up miles would be colossally stupid
@slimhimbo
@slimhimbo 9 ай бұрын
@@metallicnole4514 I was really saying if Tom wanted to step away not to kill him off for the sake of
@Chadlington69
@Chadlington69 9 ай бұрын
Imagine a world where people put this much time and effort into things that matter like the geoengineering program.
@holden4ever
@holden4ever 8 ай бұрын
If Sony really want a team up movie they should use the next movie's end credit scene to set it up as a standalone movie. MCU movies should expand the MCU.
@bctalkspod
@bctalkspod 9 ай бұрын
59:20 The Supergirl movie is being written by Tom King who wrote Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow which is the comic they are basing the movie on. This is not going to be the "wholesome" Helen Slater Christopher Reeve era Supergirl 😂 she's definitely altruistic but she also sees the world through a lense due to the darkness of her past
@TheLshyne
@TheLshyne 9 ай бұрын
I agree with you guys Sony can have their cake and eat it too. They should give Andrew and Tobey their own movies. Tom should be able to have his own solo movie that’s street level taking on Kingpin. You could always bring them together again after a few years and the hype has built up
@Yic17Gaming
@Yic17Gaming 9 ай бұрын
This Sony story is super disappointing. Shows that they only care about the cash and not the story. That story with 3 of them has already been told. Time to move on to the next story. If they want big cash, just do Toby & Andrew together without Holland. They just don't get it. Bringing the 3 of them back will not be better. When you chase money rather than what makes sense, the audience (at least the fans) can smell it and get turned off. I'm sure someone will argue that but their Spider-verse animated movies have done well. And I would argue that's because they give Lord and Miller free reign to do what they want and THEY are talented. But if Sony tries to butt in / interfere like they did with Amazing Spider-man 2, they will ruin the movie. So Sony sometimes get lucky when they hire talented directors who can do wonders. BUT overall, they don't understand great storytelling that's why it's very hit or miss. Thing is, when you focus on the story these days, that's what makes the big bucks (Guardians 3 & their Spider-verse 2 for example). Just my opinion of course.
@andrewbarnett152
@andrewbarnett152 9 ай бұрын
No Way Home had a one-time-only 'cheat code' that they either cleverly or cynically used to jump-start the box office again after the pandemic. It was basically the cinematic equivalent of burning the lifeboats to stay warm at that time. And yes, there's no denying that it paid off in spectacuar fashion. But the whole point is that it was a one-time only event. So its best to leave it that way.
@jonalexander9312
@jonalexander9312 9 ай бұрын
Winston seems to forget the huge success that was Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. Kung Fu Panda seriously could make a billion.
@marcakins3373
@marcakins3373 9 ай бұрын
Good discussions
@horatiogamble7036
@horatiogamble7036 9 ай бұрын
Denzel Washington playing Paul Giamatti as Big Momma playing Magneto. #MoreDenzelMoreCowbell
@gordonvshumway
@gordonvshumway 9 ай бұрын
Cannot wait till you review rhe final season of He-man. I really liked this season. Best out of the 3 parts. The fan service is off the charts!
@pauianderson
@pauianderson 9 ай бұрын
The conversation was under the assumption that tom holland was wanting to move on from the role. All his other movies have been negatively received or satisfactory but bombed financially. I reckon he's in it this for the long haul. Theres no way he's missing secret wars so there's 1 movie already. I think Tom still has a minimum of 3 movies left, max 5 if you include a new spiderman trilogy and appearances in other MCU movies
@EleventhCubFan
@EleventhCubFan 9 ай бұрын
The Royal Bacon Brie burger at AMC is well worth the price. It’s pretty much the only food I buy at a movie theater.
@nubby2790
@nubby2790 9 ай бұрын
No way Kung Fu Panda 4 makes a billion. My list for a possible billion - Inside Out 2, Despicable Me 4, Deadpool 3, Joker: Folie à Deux, and Mufasa: The Lion King.
@Llo834
@Llo834 9 ай бұрын
Spider-Man be a 70M movie? Do you have any realisation of economics for any of these movies? Lmao Contracts alone would be 40% there and this is why KZbinrs should never listened to. Don't live in fantasy land. You can want a grounded movie for sure but minimum anyone is spending for a Spider-Man movie is 150M
@CoyJandreau
@CoyJandreau 9 ай бұрын
Deadpool came out in 2016. With a budget of 58 million. In today’s dollars that’s 72-74 mil. Learn to be dumb more quietly. I believe in you.
@famousthaneus9810
@famousthaneus9810 9 ай бұрын
@@CoyJandreauWhile I don't agree with OP's tone, being fair, that was also because the studio didn't believe in it and Reynolds also paid for things out of his own pocket when the studio wouldn't. Spidey being a long-proven IP, it's very unlikely that something like that/truly low-budget will ever happen with anything Spider-Man proper But yea, OP, too harsh of a tone my guy
@Llo834
@Llo834 9 ай бұрын
@@CoyJandreau Ryan Reynolds took a cut, Miller made it in house for budget cuts, had to cut 2 action sequences or find innovative ways to address it(which only Deadpool can), and if you think you can make Spider-Man make even remotely look as good and realistic as needed with a Deadpool budget who uses guns, you're either deluded/ignorant How much did second Deadpool cost when actors weren't taking cuts to have it be a project of proof, yea , try getting Ryan Reynolds now for 70M when Deadpool is established IP like Spider-Man, who btw- belongs in a category of his own. Tom isn't doing it for 1 million anymore and neither is Zendaya Also I have a degree in economics which you don't. Go and learn about those IPs and comeback for how much it costs for Spider-Man to even get past pre production with contracts and distribution
@Llo834
@Llo834 9 ай бұрын
@@famousthaneus9810 honestly, fair
@joeschmoe5231
@joeschmoe5231 9 ай бұрын
If Denzel becomes Kang then Marvel will make 2 Billion on Avengers 5
@ericsietsema2044
@ericsietsema2044 9 ай бұрын
Great to see the full crew back in studio, always love it when we talk soiderman, I think Andrew gets too much crap, I quite enjoyed him as spiderman, hope he gets to come back. Shout out @Winston had an amazing patreon chat with the back knight himself last night. Talked so much tv, and cartoon tee shirts. we didn't get to talk video games and dragon ball. Just need Coy, Steph, Roxie, and Pld, and I've chatted with the whole crew.
@mladenkulic446
@mladenkulic446 9 ай бұрын
I think Denzel Washington should play Dr Doom. I know it would break Winston's heart because he really wants Paul Giamatti to play him lol. I believe the rumor is true, after all, don't forget that Sony long time ago wanted a prequel spy movie about may parker titled Agent May. Sony idiots have short term memory and forgot that at the end of No Way Home Andrew & Toby's memories of MCU's Peter Parker is erased. So how would they remember him if they did another multiverse movie?
@DarthKazimov
@DarthKazimov 9 ай бұрын
spiderverse anthology series in the vein of what if? maybe from the pov of Miguel's A.I. monitoring realities. the captain carter fight scenes alone begs to see spider man get similar treatment
@iam_ad629
@iam_ad629 9 ай бұрын
Why can’t Sony just go away. Their making the comic book genre worst 💯💯
@mikescott9012
@mikescott9012 9 ай бұрын
Sony has no business being it's own studio they are idiots. Will someone please buy them.
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand 9 ай бұрын
ALL movies are better seen at a theater... (assuming the theater provides a proper presentation, etc)... WHY? because of focus and immersion and scale and making it an event, etc... very hard to replicate at home -- from too much light to too many distractions.
@sneakyfox5
@sneakyfox5 9 ай бұрын
Denzel in Andor would be gold.
@MikeySkywalker
@MikeySkywalker 8 ай бұрын
I always buy a popcorn. That’s doing my part. But I bring my own drink, and candy. As far as I am concerned that is good enough.
@tannerdalgardno204
@tannerdalgardno204 9 ай бұрын
I don’t see the Sony Marvel movies hurting the Disney ones the same way the Fox ones didn’t hurt them either (Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, New Mutants). Even the casuals can pick up the difference.
@edo4896
@edo4896 9 ай бұрын
Jamie Lee Curtis wasn't eligible for the Emmy awards ceremony that Just aired a week ago since those were for the 2023 shows that included The Bears 1st season. The Emmys airing in September of this year will have season 2 be eligible m
@WickedArt5
@WickedArt5 9 ай бұрын
Great show today gentlemen! I think both Millie and Megan would make great supergirls so id be good with any. Deadpool is the most anticipated movie in my house of 3 women and madame web is at the bottom they actually laughed at it when I showed them the trailer but I'll give it a chance. Also I would definitely take the option of 3 spidermen movies over the others. Have a great weekend!
@BJGray7
@BJGray7 9 ай бұрын
They should dual cast Denzel / John Boyega as Blue Marvel. John Boyega plays 60s Blue Marvel and Denzel plays modern day. Then they can faze Denzel's version out and bring in John Boyega's from the past .
@crashingcoyote
@crashingcoyote 9 ай бұрын
Bad move unless it’s Andrew Garfield vs Tom Hardy’s venom
@wadekillman1198
@wadekillman1198 9 ай бұрын
Not an insider but I would guess Marvel pushes the Spider-Man live team up with Sony being contingent on Tom Holland being the only live action version getting their own film until he hangs up the suit. Disney is good at negotiations.
@tomimdawodu6808
@tomimdawodu6808 9 ай бұрын
Most fans that were and still are complaining about the first 3 MCU Spider-Man films being so connected ti avengers and stuff need to just hush up already be grateful we alll got to see SPIDER-MAN crossover and share the screen with other iconic Marvel Characters and now they brought him back to the ground to a place we all like Feige is not stupid and won’t let Sony mess this movie up the first 3 films in the MCU was unique and way different from FIVE solo spider man movies
@TheIzzeCream
@TheIzzeCream 9 ай бұрын
Do families really spend 100$ on movie tickets in the US? Here in sweden tickets are 15-17$, so a family of 4 would only be 60-70$
@Spideymrw
@Spideymrw 9 ай бұрын
Yes unfortunately. I have 3 girls and when we all go to the movies it’s over $100 between tickets and concessions
@nicholasn7208
@nicholasn7208 9 ай бұрын
Jamie Lee Curtis would be eligible in next years Emmys I think. I believe all of these awards they just won are for Season 1.
@TurtleDustin
@TurtleDustin 9 ай бұрын
I'm curious if Marvel doesn't want Sony doing a live action Spider-Man movies while they're still in a deal together. I'd prefer more Garfield myself
@SammyLaffy
@SammyLaffy 9 ай бұрын
U know what screw it.. if they can somehow make it work within the spiderverse.. why not
@coachmiller5226
@coachmiller5226 9 ай бұрын
I’m guessing a lot of this has to do with Tobey and Andrew probably being in Secret Wars. Obviously it’s a money play for Sony as well. I would prefer to see Andrew and Tobey get another solo film before they show up in the 616 MCU. Even with them most likely being in Secret Wars they don’t have to put them in the next Tom Spider Man movie. Maybe a post credit scene and that’s it.
@thelibrarianofalexandria6200
@thelibrarianofalexandria6200 9 ай бұрын
I’m thinking Argylle might Get to 1 billion,maybe optimistic but it has a great cast and a great director. Also fall guy, and inside out 2 will do a lot. … I always feel bad for you when you talk about sneaking food into the cinema. Here in norway you can take snacks from whereever, from home, from the kiosk, from a shop close by. No problem.
@schlock159
@schlock159 9 ай бұрын
Here's my theory: I think Tom Holland will still get his more grounded stand-alone Spiderman sequel. BUT i think the Madame Web movie WILL have both Tobey and Andrew in a post credits scene. I think we are gonna see Web have a vision of them, confirming to her that there are other Spidermen.
@scottelement
@scottelement 9 ай бұрын
Sony executives: “Put Tobey McGuire in it. And make him Spider-Man!”
@mattgray9297
@mattgray9297 9 ай бұрын
Sony has absolutely wasted the opportunity to make new Spider-Man sequels for both Maguire and Garfield for the people who enjoyed the crossover. Both of those Peter Parkers could have had successful movies afterwards. All too late now.
@mikejsouth
@mikejsouth 9 ай бұрын
Campea brought up a great point about multiple spiderman. It would be direct competition to have a sony only spiderman along with tom hollands. Thats could be why we dont see amazing spiderman 3.
@TheKristianHarloff
@TheKristianHarloff 9 ай бұрын
My answer to that if I am Sony: Tough Shit.
@BleachO
@BleachO 9 ай бұрын
Denzel could play Queen Elizabeth II and I'd still show up to see that movie! LOL
@zekinumanoglu3152
@zekinumanoglu3152 9 ай бұрын
Please do a sith council and discuss the bad batch. Somehow ventress has returned
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