Bad UK Driving Vol 367

[@chrispayne523]

Years ago I was driving a lorry down a country road in Kent. In front of me was a tractor towing a slurry tank which like your drain cleaning lorry was leaving a very smelly trail behind it. I was keeping a distance from if when a white open top car passed me and pull in to the space between me and the tractor. It's one of those little things that you always remember.

[@johnfh]

MGIF is obviously more important than the senses.

[@suziforester]

@@terry-f2c You would know. Your comments are exactly that

[@markdyson4332]

Isn't it sad that an example of considerate driving is so uncommon as to need highlighting ?

[@sunnybnk]

Ventilation on recirculate at the first hint of ANY unwanted stink in the car. As long as the stink is coming from outside that is!!

[@Jiayne1335]

lmao at the sound effects youve added for the supposed cleaning truck.nice one Tony.

[@garethhawkins4710]

9:20 even I gave the van driver a wave of thanks......and I'm sat on my sofa😊

[@johncranna9427]

I totally agree with you bring up the two second rule. I was going to say that its not a rule as such but it is quoted in the Highway Code, rule 126, as a guide to keeping a good separation. I would alsk add to tcat clip that the car stopped far too cluse to you. You should always leave a gap between you and the car ahead suchvthat you can see their tyres and a bit of the road- hence the expression- 'tyre and tarmac'. If you stop too close and the car behind stops too close then you are hemmed in and have no means of escape in an emergency or if the car ahead breaks down.

[@ianmason.]

A better rubric than "tyres and tarmac" is "stop while you can still see the *_whole_* vehicle", or if you prefer "tyres to top", because that also deals with things like waggons and buses which you need to be further back from to give you some vision past the vehicle.

[@johncranna9427]

@ianmason. Yes. Tyres and tarmac applies mainly to other cars, for larger vehicles you need to use a common sense approach.

[@Steve_7867]

10:40, scary bloke him. Mate of mine driving when I tell him 2 second gap, he says I am and counts 1, 2, that's 1 second numb-nuts and the amount of people who think that's a 2 second gap. Cycle lane built near where I live Between Cheshire Oaks and M56. Cost a fortune and a long time of inconvenience. You've more chance of winning the lottery than seeing a cyclist on it.

[@laurainebelsey2498]

Love the soundtrack behind the poo truck 😂😂😂 very funny.

[@suziforester]

@@terry-f2c Must be difficult for you with your breath,,,, talking crap most of the time🤭

[@ericaleak3170]

You had me laughing like a 10 year old at the clip of the poo truck. Hilarious. Your channel is brilliant entertainment as well as educational. I do like my braking distance. I’m old and I want to stay alive as long as possible! I was on the A4 this morning, on the section that runs under the M4 where there is only 1 lane for a short time. I had an idiot flashing me from behind, wanting me to speed up, when I was already doing the 40mph speed limit. I don’t know where he expected me to go to get out of his way. Now I’m usually quite genteel, (yeah right) but I did call him some rather rude words that rhyme with truck and banker and it made me feel so much better! 😁

[@ericaleak3170]

@@terry-f2c , that’s the ones! 😜

[@mandaz86AC]

Always love watching your videos and I get frustrated maybe as much as yourself, keep up the videos as they remind me of where I drive sometimes. I;m just commenting in regards to people walking out int the road when there's a crossing few yards from where they are crossing from, I had it this week as I was on my way to work, first day back too, a bloke too busy on he's phone not really looking where he's going or what's going on around him and has a go at me, so I put my window down and gave him few words.

[@suziforester]

@@mandaz86AC Yep.....they take zero responsibility

[@alanclarke4646]

Yeah. I'm always shouting " there's a f*king crossing just there you moron". Or , when they do cross at the crossing, but it's a red man: " wait for the green man, moron".

[@stephenhargreaves9011]

I still repeat that rhyme, "Only a fool breaks the two second rule" to myself when driving. If someone is driving up my arse, I say it twice to double the distance between me and the vehicle in front. This gives me as much chance as possible of not having to brake hard and get rear ended, and pisses the tailgater off no end, but it's their own fault.

[@suziforester]

@@stephenhargreaves9011 Spot on mate.....and as advised by advanced driving schools and Police Roadcraft Book

[@johnnodge4327]

I've stopped in the past, got out and told the stupid woman right up me ass to pull back, and obey the 2 second rule. She looked confused, but did hang back after that.

[@gerhard6105]

A year ago a had a Volvo SUV behind me, tailgating ( we Dutch call is bumper sticking/ bumper kleven🇳🇱) and suddenly I braked and the Volvo automatically braked and the its hazard lights went on😂. This because such a car has a detector that detects such incidents and brakes. Not that I knew that but I liked what I saw. It was a 30 mph street.

[@gerhard6105]

And also we Dutch are brainwashed keeping the 2- second rule. They really hammer on it during driving lessons and spots on tv. Belgians never heard from it ........

[@michaelgurd7477]

Yep. Grow the gap to the car in front.

[@TheBlackJuJu]

Hey mate, I feel your pain. I reckon that at least 80% of drivers on our roads should not be in possession of a drivers licence. But then again, I suppose I can always "fix it" for them, and I might get an A+ from you know who.

[@JustmeandB]

With the tailgaters, I just do what my granddad used to do,,,, slow around the corners then upto the speed limit as quickly as possible along the straights….it really p’s them off but they do tend to not get close again….😂🤣😂🤣

[@gerhard6105]

Was driving in the Ardennes friday on the motorway. There are roadwork ( yes, they were working) and it was 70 kmh (48mph). Behind me a modern Mini driving to close behind me. As a Dutch we keep to the 2-second rule. He was close behind me all the 5 km of roadworks. Then the works and. I have a very fast car and stay on the left lane ( fast lane for us). The road goes up such a way that lorries drive on walking speed. 3. - lanes wide. I shift to three and all 245 HP unleash😊. The so-called fast Mini became a tiny spot in my mirror. Here is the street view of that section of road: maps.app.goo.gl/xXyynEgbNeDdkzXM7?g_st=ac If you look behind, you see how hight the road goes. Down there is a bridge.

[@andreashaynes3346]

Many thanks for sharing this entertaining video Tony. What can you say!!!!!! 🙄🙄🙄

[@tgh671]

At 20.04 the Aldi looked to be more than 10 years old looking at the number plate - earlier in the video you mentioned that all vehicles for private hire must be less than 10 years old.

[@thelondondashcam]

The Audi was first registered in 2017

[@calknight1666]

Loving the channel, thought I was the only one that moaned about the crap standard of driving 😂. Surprised you haven’t caught me doing something stupid yet as we seem to use a lot of the same roads

[@jamielee-hill449]

15:38, it's not just road markings, but a white arrow on blue together with the traffic light which has a green arrow. That's a must turn right. The right lane before the junction is clearly for a right turn only into the carpark. Yes there are two lanes ahead, but you should only select one of the two lanes once you've gone through the junction from the left lane.

[@robertblair-uk4ph]

Absolutely. I use this poxy one way system daily. The right lane, is car park only as per the road markings and the lights. The left lane goes left towards the hospital, and the middle lane, splits between the two sets of lights. So to use the right lane to continue back round to the high street, you move over once you've cleared the carpark.

[@craigmorson]

Hi Tony thank you for another fantastic episode keep them up 👍

[@MrPhotocraft]

It's great being mature when you can recognize what you're up against.

[@grahamnutt8958]

Widescreen TV deployed ✅ Cold 🍻 within reach ✅️ 🚬🚬 rolled and ready ✅️ Entertainment Incoming ...... You can bet your 🏡 on that! TLDR - Nice one Tony 👍

[@donstratton6343]

Drivers should drive with due care and attention while reading many signs in small writing containing access restrictions, a breach of which will result in a financial penalty being assessed. Being new to the area is no excuse for not slowing right down in rush hour to read the signs. Being rear-ended because you slowed down to read the signs will place you at fault. Thank you for being a tax-paying, law-abiding road user while observing cyclists not doing the same. Have a nice day.

[@kevinbrewis6014]

12 cans of Bud Light at my local Lidl in Swalwell, Tyne and Wear at £7.49, bargain.

[@iallso1]

Here in NZ, bus lanes and cycle lanes are both classed as special vehicle lanes. They require signage no more than 100m apart, and signage to indicate the beginning and end. If cycle lanes do not have the signage they need to have No Stopping road markings (broken yellow lines here, the equivalent of double yellow lines in the UK), otherwise, parking in the cycle lanes is not enforceable. It is also permitted to drive in the cycle lane if passing a vehicle waiting to turn right, and it is safe to do so.

[@samhenwood5746]

Thanks for sharing The London Dash Cam 🚕😊👍

[@peterkeleher]

19:45 into a school entrance no less 🤣

[@VeryOldSaint]

LJ08ASX a 2008 Ford vehicle and is taxed until 1st Nov 24 and MOT until 4th June 25 It's engine size is a 4600cc Petrol engine. All from the UK Govt website.

[@barrymurton8988]

I’m going to have to look out for your Kia EV driving around Epsom with a yellow sticker! 😂

[@stephencope7178]

At 0:30, could there have been a misprint and rather than 'transit', this should read 'transam', which is a Pontiac?

[@smilerbob]

What is even funnier with that report is the Mustang has less horses than my 1.6 Focus which is two years older 🤣

[@yurp7903]

Road Tax isn’t going to be cheap for a v8 engine not to mention the insurance since its pushing 600bhp.

[@johndilloway9762]

Pull out, signal, look, flaming hell Iv'e been doing it wrong for 49 years.

[@oldgamer6218]

Hello from across the pond, enjoy watching your videos. Regarding tailers, there is a bumper sticker that says "I'm sorry to be driving so close in front of you"

[@ianflatt811]

@ 10:07 Socrates from Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure, also played Dad in Citizen Smith (replaced the original Dad who was Grouty from Porridge)

[@michaelclarkson2218]

As always a great video. I was particularly amused by the hilarious sounds effects as you were driving behind the sewage/drain truck. For one moment I thought that you had Mr Methane as your passenger complete in his green colored outfit ! 🙂

[@iamnoone.]

Now that was funny. you made me mess my shorts 😂😢

[@bukton10]

Croydon council is notorious for this traffic crime.

[@gerhard6105]

16:48, at exact spot it is just two lanes going straight and thus is white van allowed to overtake and then switch lanes. Yes, it is in his case que jumping.

[@ianemery2925]

For some people, tailgating is a way of life. I came up on some slower traffic today, 40 mph on a 60 mph road; a car, with a taxi and a large van both almost in it's boot - less than a car's length apart. The front car signals to turn off, but the taxi is loath to slow down or move out - and missed the rear bumper by nothing. SO; the road in front is clear, the taxi is going to take off at speed, right?? No; the taxi kept going at the same speed as the car that had turned off - 40 mph on a 60 mph road. Now, the taxi had a pink company logo, dopes that mean the driver was a girl?? These days it is hard to tell. BTW, after 5 minutes, we reached a 30 mph village - neither slowed down; in my mind, that makes them apprentice Volvo drivers (40 mph regardless of the actual speed limit).

[@christophermccann7528]

You have to stop calling them The British work force, they are undercover British Lurk force. 😂😂😂

[@adamgraham9787]

I definitely like your videos longer for about 30 mins

[@petegolding2657]

At 4.17 the berc in a white merc parked facing the wrong way in a cycle lane , wow !! Never seen that situation before, who'd have thought it? !! .........😂

[@konradc12]

The solid bike lanes have been around for a while on certain roads, with the same enforcement as bus lanes, as you noticed!

[@geordiegeorge9041]

Bike lanes in Germany are all like that. If you park or even stop on one it's a 100 euro fine. And if it's a blue sign, then cyclists must use it or face a 25 euro spot fine. 😁 And even if a cyclist is in a cycle lane you must give them 1.5 meters in a town, and 2.0 meters outside of a town.😂

[@lesliefraser-u5j]

I drove in Germany for thirteen years , they don't have a highway code. They have a highway law, so if you do something wrong you're fined on the spot. Cyclists riding outside a cycle lane are summarily fined and it's like crucifixion if you go through a red light cyclists included. But then the German police are more visible.

[@michaelgurd7477]

I bet German cycle lanes are fit for purpose.

[@sunnybnk]

Kia driver with the spatial awareness of a ball bearing.

[@konradc12]

I tend to stick with the GOV.UK sites to check MOT or Tax status. There are some dodgy sites that can charge or pretend to be official, especially for taxing a vehicle! The Gov.UK MOT site confirmed the correct vehicle details.

[@MRCAGR1]

2:56 They are not new, but most cycle lanes have broken white lines, meaning a car can cross them. Rarely it’s a solid line, which means a car cannot cross it. I saw one like this in Sheffield several years ago.

[@HonarySpock]

I lived along that section of road around Purley/South Croydon for 50 years. The cycle lane went in 3/4 years ago. The bicycle lanes used to have poles along the solid white lines, however the Mayor of Croydon was forced to have them removed. By the way Croydon has been bankrupted 3 times

[@suziforester]

@@HonarySpock Labour council then ?

[@peterkeleher]

@@suziforester whats that got to do with anything? some of the worst councils for going bankrupt are actually Tory, and the ones with less money and more people in need of it tend to vote Labour...

[@HonarySpock]

Labour and Conservative

[@suziforester]

@@peterkeleher Oooo ooooo oooo... easy prey you boy xx

[@graham5670]

I was thinking, if there is self-entitlement wax for certain makes of car, is there also self-entitlement shower gel for cyclists and pedestrians? Could be e gap in the market there!

[@richardwoolnough4081]

Was going to leave a comment on a clip.... like you..senior moment, can not remember for the life of me which fucking one it was. Any way, thank you 😂for another good video.... Video? Not sure what they kids call it now, I may be getting old. Keep up the good work, Tony, from Richard in Worthing 👍

[@alanclarke4646]

Handy tip: pause the video at the clip you wish to comment on, add your comment, then un-pause. It's what I do, otherwise I'd never remember the clip either! 😂😂😂

[@marklongdon2435]

In regards to the girls crossing they are actually breaking the highway code by crossing on the zigzags. And, yes, the highway code does cover pedestrians as well for those that doubt it.

[@johncranna9427]

OK, now quote me the exact rule in the Highway Code that says that they can not cross there, as I'm quite sure that it doesn't exist.

[@alanclarke4646]

Rules for pedestrians, Rule 18 says DO NOT cross on the zigzags. It doesn't say MUST NOT. So not illegal to do so.

[@johncranna9427]

And I looked at it again and they are just outside the zig zag lines!!!!

[@marklongdon2435]

@@alanclarke4646 I didn't say it was illegal. Some of the guidelines for cars are not legally enforcable. It all depends on the wording.

[@raynordefoubert9753]

Hi Tony, Yet another classic video. The driver of that smelly truck must be an AUDI driver talking to himself...just saying :)

[@konradc12]

1:45 I saw that Prius on Bank Holiday Monday. All the doors were wide open then. I wonder what happened? Woodmansterne Lane.

[@impresssiveshot231]

A two second rule you can get 3 German car jump in that at the same time

[@markdyson4332]

Hey Suzi - back at you !

[@Grumpy_Granddad]

Only…. Only….onl … nope I can’t get any more out

[@tigertony2716]

Shame the people information films are no more because they did serve a purpose

[@ForkCandle123]

@@tigertony2716 I do miss Charlie the cat.

[@neilclark2245]

I saw most of them back in the day and they must have stuck, I remember most including Reginald Molehusband and his reverse parking saga, and the Austin Cambridge (might have been a Morris Oxford) showing what happens when you put radial tyres on the front and crossplies on the rear

[@michellesimpson4364]

09:49 the solid lines would tell you not to go in the bike lane or park there.

[@marklongdon2435]

Are you sure you weren't shopping at Ann Summers 🤣

[@williamwelling4872]

When they were giving out brain's they thought they said trains and they missed there's lol

[@DerekMichael-k3f]

Ok london dashcam now this is just a comment about the bike lanes ok now everything you was saying was right on but i noticed a berc in a merc parked in the fuckin bike lane at 4 mins 30 plus seconds onwards otherwise keep up the great work but in truth i thaught it would have been a audi haha

[@paulgreen758]

Audi drivers that watch this listen and learn to drive, same goes for BMW and berk in a Merc I drive all 3 safely, S5 M30 sport and AMG63, no points I dont use my phone and I give way rather than bully my way through, some of you are more Entitled than bike riders, of which im one as well, but abide by the road rules, but I mainly use gravel on my bike

[@charliemansonUK]

14:15 i wonder if he sprayed the cyclist 🚵‍♀️ 💩 😂 🙏

[@Jimmyspangle]

@7:30, is this a trick video Tony, or did your tow rope fall off when towing the BMW?

[@smilerbob]

I think the van driver was frustrated with you as well at 8:00 as it looked like he wanted to use the hatched area to overtake the cyclist, most likely badly Keep calm everyone, that red light will still be waiting for you along the road

[@rogereheadbyrne4790]

No hate from me Tony! Im a ECyclist but dont worry you wont encounter me on your travels As i live on the Isle of Wight and ride the trails not the road! I enjoy your rants they make me smile! Positive Vibes fella you make damn good videos! Keep it up! Its entertaining!👍😉

[@thelondondashcam]

I almost moved to the Isle of Wight a few years ago me and the wife were looking at places.

[@rogereheadbyrne4790]

@@thelondondashcam there are some right idiot drivers over here too But I suppose its everywhere, theres lots of Audi drivers here! Haha 👍😁

[@KennethSwaby-j9d]

Very entertaining. Thank you so much. 😂😂😂😂

[@xusiaxod6255]

17:39 - always a KIa.

[@coord47]

The bike lane......look at all the bikes using it!

[@gazfaz24]

Some road signs are made by inmates as a paid job whilst serving at his majesty's pleasure.

[@Cars_with_Leilah]

I help you Tony with the mustang situation

[@davesimms5397]

But the Audi driver behind did have (her?) hands at ten to two, so she must be very careful driver!

[@alanclarke4646]

All the Audi morons in Worcester drive with their right hand over the top of the wheel. Other hand either holding their phone or down their trousers. I don't want to know which...

[@williamwelling4872]

If they don't follow the rules there fare game lmao

[@fatsmandela]

13:30 , it's not that road sweeper, the fields you passed looks like they had slurry applied to them , what's coming out is not that smelly (it will smell a bit but not in the car)

[@thelondondashcam]

The thing is if you look at the road you can see all the stuff that is leaking from the truck I'm driving in that which is obviously splashing up on the underside of my car so I do think it was that truck.

[@michellesimpson4364]

07:40 4 second rule if it’s wet

[@ForkCandle123]

@9:50, that Audi was so close. The camera didn't do it justice.

[@thelondondashcam]

I forgot to say it 😁

[@xo2quilt]

Those are the kind I drop my speed slowly for! I usually use cruise control when I drive, so I'll just bump it down one MPH every 10 seconds or so until they get the message or tap my brakes randomly like I have both feet on the pedals.

[@konradc12]

You need to wash the car after driving on that waste slurry. Also imagine cycling or motorcycle on the road after that!

[@gerhard6105]

15:40, that is expensive here in 🇳🇱: €180....... because you to follow the by the arrow (so-called forcing arrow = official name) indicated direction ON THE CROSSING ( that is the part behind the white lane where you drive when the light went on green). Is there such a law in England?

[@dVb9]

Yes, what he did is also illegal here in the UK, and would probably have earned him 3 points on his licence if caught. The lane is clearly only meant for traffic entering the car park, and he had to ignore both the right turn filter light and the mandatory right turn sign in order to go straight ahead at that junction, so he was effectively queue-jumping. The fact that the van in front did the same doesn't excuse it.

[@gerhard6105]

@@dVb9 thanks for your answer.

[@xusiaxod6255]

5:50 - i thought electric milk floats had immediate torque and acceleration? As far as i can see, that's the only benefit to them. However, i don't drive 0-60 in 3 secs everywhere so pointless. Here though, your milk float couldn't out accelerate an L plate scooter? ROFL.

[@ditch3827]

18:30 Roads are pedestrians rights of way and as such pedestrians can cross where they choose. They do not have to cross at crossing points. The pedestrians in the clip did nothing wrong, posed no risk and got in no one's way.

[@SittaCarolinensis]

Apart from the fact that it wasn't really a sensible place to cross?

[@suziforester]

@@SittaCarolinensis Wasting your time with this person.....he's a kn@b

[@alanclarke4646]

Highway Code, Rules for Pedestrians, rule 7: Use the Green Cross Code. And part A of the Green Cross Code is: Find A Safe Place To Cross. Where there is a crossing, use it. These pedestrians put themselves at risk by not doing the above. Oh, it's you, Ditch. I might have known...

[@alanclarke4646]

​@@SittaCarolinensis you're a white breasted nuthatch??

[@suziforester]

@@alanclarke4646 Exactly... wonder if any reasonable parent would teach their children 'The Ditch Way' to cross a road

[@jillfarrell6388]

Pmsl at the farts !! 😅

[@alunrundle162]

You just don't want us to know it was all Lambrini and Fuller's Pride... (Hides in case I'm right.)

[@suziforester]

Hi Tony.....love ya xx

[@smilerbob]

@AndrewWhite-fu7bn Is his wife aware of her feelings? 🤔

[@suziforester]

AndrewWhite little sausage p!ssed off again..😂 Hi Tony......still love ya xx

[@suziforester]

Ha ha ha ha ha... another two bites 😂

[@robinjones6999]

I live in H Heath mate and our roads are full of lycra louts on a sunday - they are like a bloody plague

[@ralphcutler7622]

Nice one again RANTONY😅

[@paulriley4069]

I like that comment where were you when they dished out brains 😅😅 I think he was sucking on the exhaust pipe like a cigarette inhaling up all the fumes that's why he couldn't think

[@johndilloway9762]

So the guy at 14:30 is a profesional s**t driver

[@ianhiggon-caswell4225]

When god was handing out the brain's the kia driver thought he said train's went to the wrong platform and missed theirs

[@MikeWilliams-yp9kl]

Great as usual. Audi = 4 rings of sh.1.t that why they want to back home , ARSE town.

[@alanclarke4646]

The rings represent the number of brain cells of the average Audi driver.

[@williamwelling4872]

When people tail gate me I put may four ways on this brings attention to them and if there's a police officer there it's fine time for them

[@thefoodiechannelcookingfro1822]

7:15 Audi is a petrol hybrid NJ21 MTE

[@gerhard6105]

This time it is not good that there is a cycle lane and that time it is annoying that they drive in your way. As a Dutch i would say that you better be happy with the cycle lane because that way they do not cycle in your way. Because it has a white solid lane it would here 🇳🇱 be marked with one cycle path sign at the beginning and one with a red diagonal line through it at the end of that lane. 🚳

[@kenmerry2729]

The solid white line says you can't go in it, no need for signs??

[@billyskoda6839]

The Audi... driven by an unskilled, disinterested driver... how can I tell? Bought online from cazoo on the number plate. How can anyone buy a car without a number of test drives?

[@catladyfluff8423]

Where do you want tge delivery driver to pull over to check the address. All I see are double yellows everywhere.

[@G0LGS]

Too much information !

[@michellesimpson4364]

08:03 what kind of motorbike was that?

[@mantabloke8141]

What are your on about your road tax - aren't electric vehicals exempt :)

[@Holycurative9610]

I don't recall road tax being mentioned anywhere in the video. I believe Tony said, and I paraphrase, "They don't pay nuffink [he's a Londoner] to be on the road" which I assume would include insurance, MOT, ULEZ charges and so on.

[@michellesimpson4364]

08:45 lazy

[@xo2quilt]

Stupid lazy!

[@smilerbob]

I am going to keep quiet about your comments on cyclists, paying for using the roads and how it can be perceived when combined with annoyance. I have said what needs to be said previously and I have my reasons why I believe it is wrong to say it I will say the solid lines on bike lanes have been around for years and you even referenced one of them in your video as they can be combined with bus lanes. Most of the time they are on roads where there is sufficient space for cyclists and drivers to share but I would recommend giving space as much as you can when passing as, although “in their own lane”, there could still be potholes and debris that needs to be avoided Remember that the cycle lanes with broken lines still shouldn’t be driven in unless absolutely necessary and in either case cyclists have absolute priority in a cycle lane 👍

[@Ezekiel_Burton]

It's divisive and irresponsible rhetoric, there I said it. It can put lives at risk when drivers actually believe that nonsense

[@thelondondashcam]

I don't think I explained the cycle lane very well, what I meant was I haven't seen one in the style of a bus lane i.e cameras on a bike lane ready to fine you if you go in it, yes I've seen bike lanes before with solid lines but not with cameras on.

[@smilerbob]

@@thelondondashcamUnderstood 👍 I assume they are the standard London Borough cameras that will catch you sneezing and wiping your nose with the sleeve cuff instead of a tissue in which case they have been around for a while, ever since local councils in London were given power over minor traffic offences like yellow box infringements or stopping on a red route. I suspect more and more will appear as council budgets continue to be stretched more and more Speaking of stopping on a red route, a little PSA for you and all. If your car breaks down on a red route and you are able to repair it yourself…don’t. I did many yesrs ago when the car went into limp mode and needed to be reset, ended up with a FPN that wouldn’t be rescinded. I did ask the council if I should block the bus lane while I wait up to two hours for recovery and they said “Yes”. So apparently waiting for paperwork is more important than keeping the red route clear 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@alanclarke4646]

Yet again, you deliberately misunderstand Tony: he didn't say "pay for the roads", he said " pay to USE the roads", in other words, MOT, insurance, lessons, test, licence. Things that all users of mechanically propelled vehicles HAVE to pay for to be on the public highway.

[@smilerbob]

@@alanclarke4646 No deliberate misunderstanding at all. If you read my comment you will see that I wrote how it can be _perceived_ when these things are said with annoyance at cyclists or cycling infrastructure

[@ashleynaylor9531]

With common sense levels being as low as they are now might be a good time to start re-showing some of those old public information films.