Bait & Switch - Andrew Wilson Talks Muslim Lantern Debate Fallout

[@Lunatic89097]

Let's not forget that Sneako thought that Cuties was a great movie

[@inspiredink4515]

that is so wild i need to see the clip for that if you can direct me to it

[@glp.1337]

I'm sure he did. I'm also sure Muhammed would've loved it as well.

[@RegisTaz]

No surprise there.

[@DmanDice]

@@inspiredink4515 He went on multiple times defending that movie saying the message is all that counts. Ignoring the fact that actual children were used and sexualized to make it.

[@ashash6866]

I mean, It was in the sense of Awareness as to the possible dangers of Social Media and Exploitation, But is it a "Good movie" as in going to your bro's saying "Oi lets smash out to Cuties, its a Great movie" ..then Probably not lmao

[@XtremeSuperJason]

Honest question - why the fuck is Sneako hosting/moderating religious debates when he has no fucking idea what he's doing?

[@bigol9223]

He wants content and he wants to advance islam and/or impress his muslimbro social circles.

[@duncanidaho5834]

Bosses at YT and Twitch love when pseudointellectuals debate religion.

[@Ian-co5ku]

Sneako is a Knob.

[@AcousticBruce]

Sneako was at fault for not moderating properly. Sneaker had the ability to set the tone and explain to that other goofball that he can wait till his turn to to attack on the trinity and that next time he can make his argument for Christian age of consent in another debate.

[@cantrelljohansen2493]

Unfortunately sneako is also a Muslim so it was obvious he was going to play damage control for his butt buddy.

[@ally4131]

Should’ve got Myron to moderate it if they were to have a Muslim (if he even is one), he’s at least fair and honourable as a moderator.

[@Nazareneprotestant]

Well why is Sneako allowed to moderate? Guy is a moron

[@DmanDice]

Sneako is a fn moron. Did you forget that part?

[@kiddarius]

@@ally4131Myron is secular if I remember correctly. He accepts Islam teachings when it comes to culture and tradition just because his family was Muslim but I don’t think it goes further than that and despite not believing in a God he does support the ethical teachings of Abrahamic religion for society, even if he doesn’t adhere to all of them himself.

[@thebareknucklebaron2529]

The way Andrew handles dishonest Muslim debate tactics is artful

[@palparteek27]

Yupp, That's exactly why he's the best🐐👑, Andrew Wilson has the impeccable intellect and the B@lls to back up that intellect,Logical/Philosophical Prowess,I cannot think of another debater who has this perfect combination. He is definitely blessed and gifted,One of Christ's strongest warriors.

[@jessejohnson8365]

The fact that you were able to remain calm after that. BRAVO 👏 👏 I'd not have been able to do so! Let alone wining flat out by asking if it stands to reason that The Prophet Muhammad had an average sized penis !!! Haha Also they openly admitted to changing everything prearranged and they planned from the git go to throw the baby out with the bathwater the whole time. Because they wanted to do a Muslim vrs Christians debate. Because they wanted to argue their points, by not arguing their points! Also clear the moderator was not moderate and was essentially their to support the lantern. Id have recorded the original conversation made them aware from the start. So if they tried doing what they intended all along i could drop that content so they had no choice but to eat crow! Freaking decievers that pretend to be righteous and just and holy. Again 👏 Oh and you and your wife's appearance on Whatever the other day! Best whatever episode! It seemed like it was going to be a dud. Then the table demanded there own destruction Oh boy was that delivered !

[@AyanlehAhmed-rp1bs]

Truly awesome to see Christians becoming atheist and liberal when debating Muslim

[@AyanlehAhmed-rp1bs]

@@sunnywantsmoney liberals and atheists at the end of the day .

[@anneominous7172]

@@AyanlehAhmed-rp1bs Nothing about what you've just said applies even a little bit - but it's nice to see the collective Islamic IQ continues to trend downward due to rampant incestuous marriage.

[@alextheman3330]

He definitely won that debate considering the other guys got butthurt and kicked him off! lmao Typical Muslim L.

[@TheUzamaki1234]

I watched the stream. He didn't get kicked off. Once Sneako left it collapsed on everyone since they were invited to his web party. Andrew jumped the gun on that one.

[@ksjdjdbx]

@@TheUzamaki1234 there is no way in the world that an abdool can defend the morality of muhammad, many arab speaking ex-muslim will tell you that…………

[@bigol9223]

Didn't he already say he was done because of the bullshit they pulled though?

[@TheUzamaki1234]

@@bigol9223 I'm only answering to the kicked off piece to clarify. Everything else is free game.

[@Deathstro]

@@TheUzamaki1234 web party??? he and muslim lantern left the group then called each other to trashtalk him lmao he was effectively kicked

[@DanAdlingtonOnline]

They were buying time and trying to get out of the age of consent debate. They knew their deflection tactic they always use wasn't going to work so they needed to run the timer out.

[@TheLogicalvoice-wj5yp]

Yeah but the issue is that at the time marrying at 13 or 14 was not considered crazy it was the norm. Yeah, they would marry a guy that was typically 20-23 because well a man back then didn't have access to anything until that time.

[@austinpissey8789]

​@TheLogicalvoice-wj5yp so was marrying and having relations with a 9 year old nornal?

[@DanAdlingtonOnline]

@@TheLogicalvoice-wj5yp You have to admit Lantern and Co really didn't want to dig into that.

[@TheLogicalvoice-wj5yp]

@@austinpissey8789 In ancient biblical times a girl didn't become marrying age until she was considered an adult. In Jewish tradition anyway 12 was the age of accountability. It was not uncommon for fathers to have their daughters in arranged marriages by 13 or 14. The men they would marry were at least 20. It was just common practice. It sounds crazy now but then no. Then again men back then had to be actual men by an early age as well. by age 15 he was running the farm or parts of the farm. Was accomplished with several different weapons of war.

[@TheLogicalvoice-wj5yp]

@@DanAdlingtonOnline I think historical context is important. The bible doesn't given an age but more of a range. Typically sometime during puberty was acceptable but not before that.

[@Richie66026]

Lol have you seen the clips of lanturn talking to someone else who was refering to islam in a debate and lanturn was saying that it ws dishonest to talk about islam when they were talking abojt Christianity and that he wouldnt do it if he was talking about islam 😂

[@lovkushkumar]

Yes i saw

[@PrObLeM-07]

Dudes a clown trying to justify his slime debate tactics.

[@ally4131]

He runs away from all debates. He ran in a livestream because CP asked to debate.

[@XxMyEpiphanyxX]

WOW, I hope I come across that. Insane how they can do that. That's exactly like Destiny saying he doesn't need to have a position and then criticizes Andrew for not having a position.

[@jamessteckel5379]

Shocked. Shocked! Well... not that shocked. Without lies, isLam dies

[@darkdragonmoderator5504]

Without lies, Islam thrives. But I mean, you guys believe in a full book of lies that's been changed over 60 trillion times. Bible doesn't even exist anymore lol. Can you read Hebrew? Ig not😂🤣

[@SteubeMan]

lol def, more like isLame

[@tidepride86]

1000% What's it called takkya or something where they're actually told by their religion that they should lie to people if it furthers jihad. Sick sick religion islam

[@Chilani2001]

Lol, no offense, but Christian and atheist are an L

[@guillermoelnino]

​@@SteubeManAYOH!

[@nickniggeling265]

That attempt of a debate was sad... They change the rules during the debate is absolutely insane.

Idk, personally I think Christianity's Age of Consent is very relevant when discussing Islam's Age of Consent. Banning someone from mentioning it is kind of crazy imo. They are totally related, they massively influenced one another, and it is the only other objective moral framework to compare Islam's Age of Consent again. Otherwise, what moral framework is he meant to be defending Islam's age of consent against?

[@nickniggeling265]

It is irrelavent to discuss the Christian age of consent because that was not the topic. The debate was SPECIFICALLY about Islam. Plus, he tried to change the debate rules during the debate and that is bad form.

[@macxdeeyt2767]

@@nickniggeling265if you know math. You need a 0 to go above or below. You need a base. That guy chose christianity because that's what Andrew was defending.

[@nickniggeling265]

@@macxdeeyt2767 incorrect... Andrew was not defending ANYTHING for that part of the debate.

[@Wonder7s]

@@nickniggeling265Muslims believe in the same prophets as Christianity and this was a common thing. That’s why it’s relevant

[@GPS08]

Sneako, like in everything else he does, is out of his depth.

[@dumkaisachakal6341]

He is a better sounding version of fresh from fresh and fit.

[@CRS099]

Been saying that sneako is a Wal-mart brand Myron for years

[@GPS08]

@@CRS099 He's just another clout chasing goblin that adapts whatever narrative he thinks is going to make him famous.

[@impersonator4439]

No Muslim will honestly debate Islam with a non-Muslim.

[@AAA-qr8yy]

Thats because their koran says they can and should lie to nonmuslims in order to advance islam.

[@MW_3]

That just simply isn’t true lol. The amount of Islamophobia Muslims need to deal with is vast. Not wanting the prophet to be insulted isn’t a big ask.

[@paul8129]

@@MW_3 boo hoo, Islamophobia is not real

[@JOHNTIM212]

Andrew Wilson will not debate Darth Dawkins either, he can't defend orhodoxy against a christian.

[@herculesleonardo2802]

@@MW_3 Islamphobia what the hell are you LGBTQ homophobia ? Christianity is More attacked than Islam and there is no Christophobia 😂😂

[@walkdontrun1999]

Sneako was so uncomfortable the first few minutes into the debate you could feel it

[@deathscy8598]

i think you should just stick to debating onlyfans females

[@noirstar1994]

so you could understand the debate? Slefish

[@Bulletproof_Trump]

I know Andrew doesn't have a degree, at least not for debate, but how did he get so good at debating? I'm blown away at how good he is. The way he's able to pick up on and properly react to tactics that I can barley notice is nuts. Is it just that he's done it so much?

[@alexanderfigueroa5732]

Man is blessed with a gift and he along with Sam shamoun, jay dyer, bishop mar Mari Emmanuel amongst other are bringing me back to the faith and I pray GOD blessed them

[@Stibitzwegerich]

Prob has a hand for it - and then put in the hours on the debate panel, and in the research chamber

[@MoodyFoody-fb9xe]

Simple - by smoking a carton a day

[@LeekowalskiWalker]

Because the rules are simple and few.

[@LocoWhoEatsCOCO]

Learning to debate is easy. Know your laws of logic, be educated in your topics and the most common logical fallacies used in a debate so you can spot it or avoid doing them. With time and experience, you'll get there.

[@rhodie33]

A lot muslim snakes out there.

[@Generik_]

Snakes are slithering all through the Garden.

[@Christusvinci]

You hve to be serpentine to remain a Muslim knowing all that is hidden with it.

[@yaqalp]

Lots of man god polytheists out there.

[@bigmikey1344]

Sneako has no backbone or integrity…he just flip flops wherever the wind blows.

[@gabriel-uc1uz]

The main problem is the formation of Andrews question was such a strong internal critique of the islamic position that it was impossible for the Muslim lantern to debate honestly.

[@terrordude11]

If Andrew's critique was so strong, what does that have to do with ML to debate honestly? If you're defending a position, you should be able to do it honestly. Unless ML and sneako were planning to be dishonest from the start. Which they were. They took the L from the start.

[@abdulbari-_-]

​@@terrordude11was rebecca not 3 ? And if she was how can u say aishas age was not morally correct.

[@terrordude11]

@abdulbari-_- No, she wasn't 3. The Catholic encyclopedia isn't a valid source or correct. Proper sources dictate she was older than that, and older than aisha. The quaran validates that Aisha was married at 6 and the "marraige" was consumated when she was 9. The argument that you're using has been debunked for a long time. Get a new one.

[@themilkman369]

Rebecca was not 3, the Bible says that when she met Isaac she was carrying water for camels. If you can find a 3 year old that can do that I’ll concede. But let’s just say for the purpose of the argument, that she was indeed 3 years old. What would be the point? Are you aware that Christian do not think apostle or prophets are necessarily morally good people or even good people in general, and the Bible never says we have to do what they do. As a matter of fact, I don’t think Moses was a good man, he had a lot of people killed during conquests and was not allowed into the promised land as a result of his wrath. Muslims on the other hand must defend mohammad as if he’s absolutely perfect, therefore anything he did in life cannot be immoral. So going back to the debate, the fact that the Muslim wasn’t willing to answer Andrew’s questions unless he does a whataboutism fallacy is just dishonest.

[@R4Clover7]

​@@abdulbari-_-Rebekah was not 3, and you can't even show meshe was 3

[@semyaza555]

I hope Christians see how Andrew handled this situation, and take notes because ALL OF THEM debate (I use this term loosely) this way. The same thing happened throughout the F&F debate. There’s no point in debating these guys if they won't defend their positions, and can't provide justification(s) for their world view, i.e. even if Christians are hypocrites on this issue, whataboutery isn't justification for Islam’s view on AOC. Abduls either can't, or don't know how to, argue the affirmative position. As a result, every debate inevitably turns into a critique of the opposing view point because they have no arguments in defense of their own.

[@darkdragonmoderator5504]

Muslim Lantern wasn't trying to defend Islam's position by bringing up Christinaity, lol. You guys don't even understand what happened, neither does Andrew.

[@semyaza555]

@@darkdragonmoderator5504 That’s the point goofball. ML was supposed to defend Islam’s position on AOC but he wouldn’t (or couldn’t). Then, Andrew was supposed to argue the affirmative for the Trinity. It sounds like you don’t understand what happened and are projecting your own incompetence onto others.

[@SneakyBarker]

​@darkdragonmoderator5504 lol kid then why was he talking about Christianity the whole time

[@darkdragonmoderator5504]

@SneakyBarker He was trying to highlight Andrew's position (the Christian position) to the audience before he moved on. Simple AF to anybody with more than 8 brain cells. You cannot debate the Age of Consent without having a position on the age of consent yourself.

[@BrokenContracts]

@@darkdragonmoderator5504you’re quite the smooth brain aren’t you

[@wali9378]

According to Islam, the age of consent for marriage is when you become an adult ie you hit puberty.According to Christianity, the age of consent for marriage is when you become an adult ie you hit puberty. If you follow Christianity as an objective truth, then you should not have any issue with Islam on this case. That was the argument of The Muslim Lantern. He also explained it without using Christianity; In Islam, 1.Both male and female has to be adults in order to get married. 2.They both have to have permission of the the guardian to get married. 3.If guardian is deemed unfit to decide based on his character and mental state, the local judge has to decide whether the marriage should be done or not. 4.In case there is harm of any kind in the marriage, the marriage is considered null and both parties have full rights to separate from their partners in anytime.

[@wali9378]

Muslim don't have to defend age of consent against Christians because Christians follow the same principal which the Muslims follow for the age of consent.It is funny when Christians use that to attack Islam not knowing that it is their morality as well. Yes, Muslims do require the need to defend age of consent against liberals.Muslims get confused while debating Christian because they are not sure whether they are debating a Christian or a liberal

[@realgharnef1858]

No, the what is considered "puberty" in islam is far different from what is considered "puberty" in christianity, and for that reason islam has been and is far more predatory and pedophilic than christianity is, and this can be seen reflected in their cultures

[@rjd08l]

A 9 year old does not reach puberty..its basic, Thats why andrew was trying to get the age of consent.

[@Wonder7s]

@@rjd08lGirls can hit puberty as early as 8 you don’t know what you’re talking about.

[@quasarpenguin5701]

Aisha's age is a guestimation. Arabs at that time didn't track birthdays or had such records. What we do know is that they didn't consummate until sometime after she was biologically able to have children.

[@StrangersIteDomum]

If the judge is playing favorites, then right and wrong are in question

[@gregorygant4242]

There's no point in debating someone who doesn't want to answer questions. That's not a debate it's not even a discussion it's useless girly talk. Deflecting and obfuscating continually from answering a SINGLE damn question is the sign of a liar, deceiver a coward ! Good job Sir Andrew in pointing out these Muslim deceivers . Kyrie Eleison !

[@mc94.]

Jay made him forget what the word depends means and said all Muslims dont know the word either 😂

[@hassangaming7758]

Blud said Muslims worship Muhammad like wtf dude😂😂😂 This is your knowledge about Islam

[@OGTheDemon]

Lol so you dont acknowledge muhammad as the prophet of ur religion? Careful, thats pretty haram.

[@phil4_8]

Not sure how anyone would expect anything more than dishonesty and lack of integrity from a clown who calls himself ‘sneako.’

[@buddyduddyful]

Lantern can't debate child abuse.

[@matthewscottsnyder99]

What?!! A Muslim was not upfront and honest with an “infidel” 😂😂😂

[@fabior.9326]

Much love Andrew. I used to go in really carefully when debating anyone on anything, to not hurt their feelings. But it turned out that this ultimately leads to nothing. All these delusional people clinging to nonsensical beliefs or selfish behaviors need to be confronted with reality. Keep up the good work brother

[@dmustakasjr]

It is difficult to watch debates between Christians and Muslims. Not because of the debate topics, but often because I have noticed that the Muslims position often does not respect the need to be honest with a non-Muslim.

[@michaelraymond1279]

Andrew is precisely accurate. Muslim Lantern conceeded that Andrew was correct. However, Muslim Lantern "wanted to" point out his position that Christianity is hypocritical for even bringing this issue up. Yes, it had no place in the debate on the issue, however its emotionally so offensive that Muslim Lantern can not and will not leave that part out, despite the fact that it doesn't belong. I suggest embracing Mulim Lanterns desire to debate "are Christians or Jews hypocrites in bringin up Mohamed marriage to a child? By the way, are ANY muslims, christians or Jews marrying children TODAY in 2024? If not, Why Not? Perhaps no moral person can justify a 50+ year old marrying children under 10

[@withlol777]

There is no argument. That’s why they can’t defend it.

[@EM-fo6yr]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you were debating the morality of the Muslim age of consent, so demonstrating that the Muhammad marriage is acceptable within your moral framework would be appropriate. How else would you debate the morality of the marriage if morality is subjective?

[@TommyGunz327]

I’m really wondering if Sneako and Tate are taking money from CAIR and or the Muslim brotherhood at this point.

[@jakesteffan505]

Tate doesn't need CAIR money.

[@BrandonTheInquirer]

Logic is Haram.

[@wilsonblauheuer6544]

Sounds like debating is great. No need to prove your argument, you get to formulate your own rules, and you sit there until you decide it is over, and you declare who won after it's over.

[@garyphisher7375]

We are the most peaceful - UNLESS... You mock Moe ham head You leave his lamb You love someone of the same se>

[@soun6589]

They cant debate without "what aboutism"

[@mechamarkman]

Muslim lantern said so much without saying anything at all

[@DeeqMoe]

Where is the debate? Why it’s not posted in channel? 🤣😂😂

[@feka2188]

- The key is the mindset = "I'm a victim because I'm muslim" - a "victim" would lists what was done against him/her to "defend-his/her-position" - if you assume this then everything is clear, that is, no argument on the assertive position, but listing up things on "the other side"

[@bastiat8322]

I've been surprised watching several debates with Muslims how awful and openly dishonest they were. They seem to have no issues with lying. It's actually lowered my opinion of Islam quite a bit.

[@AshirJale]

How this discussion with Muslim Lantern is dishonest ? Care to explain ?

[@OGTheDemon]

@@AshirJale Changing the rules of the debate, refusing to answer andrews questions, and its literally acceptable in the muslim world to lie to non muslims. Surprised you can breathe with ur head so far up ur backside.

[@tarikulislam686]

🤣🤣 Christian VS Muslim debate Christian: don't mention Christianity.

[@OGTheDemon]

Good to see that ur silly ass isnt paying attention... Making a strong case for muslims and women darlin.

[@daveybigtechsno1fangurl518]

It is difficult to defend peadophilia. Muslims are aware of this. So will either lie about it because the prophet is supposed to be the best of men and taqqiyah is widely accepted and justified. So there is a real inner battle within all Muslims, especially those with children. Most will say its common of the time, but does that make it correct? Does that make it holy?

[@markfiedler9415]

Man, you went for the most savage attack mode.

[@neku2741]

😂😂dude come in wanting to talk about prophet Muhammad pp then got butthurt when nobody want to listen to that

[@11heven]

CHRIST IS KING

[@khaderlander2429]

Modern Liberal Christianity vs. Traditional Christian Values. Understanding the Shift in Christian Ethics. Traditional Christian Ethics. Historically, Christian ethics have been rooted in biblical teachings and church doctrines, emphasizing values such as chastity, the sanctity of marriage, and the moral guidelines provided by scripture. The age of marriage, for instance, was traditionally understood to coincide with puberty, reflecting biblical and societal norms of the time. Modern Liberal Christianity. In contrast, many contemporary Christians, particularly in Western societies, have adopted more liberal views, aligning with modern secular values rather than traditional biblical teachings. This includes acceptance of later marriage ages, greater emphasis on individual autonomy in sexual ethics, and a reinterpretation of scriptural teachings to fit modern sensibilities. The shift in marriage age from puberty to 18 or older reflects this change, where societal laws and norms, influenced by Enlightenment thinking, have overridden biblical precedents. In debates like the one with Muhammad, these tensions between traditional and modern Christian values often come to the forefront. A Christian debater might avoid defending traditional values that seem out of step with modern ethics, choosing instead to focus on aspects of Christianity that align more closely with contemporary moral intuitions. When christian debater avoids points raised related to sexual ethics or age of marriage in classical traditional Christianity, it may reflect an attempt to appeal to a broader audience, particularly those who already agree with modern liberal interpretations of Christianity. This can be seen as a strategy to maintain relevance in a secularized society where traditional values are increasingly viewed as outdated or even harmful.

[@MareMagister]

Given the question at hand, they already lost before even opening their mouths. How can anyone try to defend it?

[@kevinh2345]

You've correctly identified the islamic debate strategy, only attack and when challenged on the muslim position obfuscate and deflect. People have recommend Christian Prince to you in the past and he's been an extremely successful polemicist because he'll just flip the script and demand they defend islam which they never want to do.

[@Holdthepickle70]

Just watched the debate. It was a dumpster fire. Muslim Lantern was so dishonest. All he wanted to do was give rants about whataboutism and make tu quoque fallacies. He was such a baby

[@michaelraymond1279]

Andrew, amongst all parties involved, you are the clear master or teacher so the only one who could have been responsible for things going properly was you! If it did not go properly, the only one who understsnds what IS PROPER is, ultimately, bottim line responsible for the outcome.

[@michaellowe2305]

Exactly the same debate I saw before you debate. And thought "every debate like these need this rule "

[@smokinjoel7186]

Seeing as Muslims and certain Atheists named Matt can’t face you or answer you Andrew. Would be a stretch to ask you to reach out to Alex O’Conner or CosmicSkeptic and have a debate/discussion with him regarding philosophy and the divine as I can guarantee that would be an ultimately edifying but captivating discussion. You both have logic that is grounded in a consistent belief so it would be good faith on both sides. There’s one discussion where he talks to I think Dinesh D’Souza and essentially nails both moral structures or worldviews as being the same structure but one being of the divine and the other being from a evolutionary standpoint. The debate itself is poor overall but Alex raises some good points as always.

[@Mohammed-u9e8c]

Andrew... stick to "debating" Onlyfans girls... That was embarrassing.

[@OGTheDemon]

Will you be able to keep up then? Do you need a helmet?

[@justanotherlikeyou]

Andrew was imminently fair, honest, and balanced in his approach. ML, relying on subterfuge, lies, and guile, didn't know what to do. To him Andrew was like an alien being from another planet. He'd never seen such a good faith debater before. ML was equally slimy and deceptive with Jay Dyer as well, and was systematically demolished by Dyer in their debate.

[@dustindodds2239]

jay dyer went threw the same thing right after, calling him a fallacy machine!!!

[@maliciousmudkip3656]

When you see the tactics the Muslim audience is used to, it makes sense why Sam Shamoun's confrontational approach works so well in getting the Truth across. You put the weasel's in their place front and center so the argument can breathe.

[@miles-son3509]

Wilson was so scared 😂😂😂😂😂

[@HappyCamper84]

Debating the legal system that islam is is more effective.

[@georgeII420]

shouldnt be hard to defend if you believe in it..

[@Thomas-ps9qk]

always record your convos andrew. lesson for the future

[@mind_money_morphology]

POST FULL VIDEO PLEASE, or make a link please if you don't want to upload it

[@putent9623]

Just type Andrew wilson vs Muslim lantern you can find it on youtube

[@TheLogicalvoice-wj5yp]

I tried watching that. What was Sneeko thinking? Not that he is a standup guy in any sense but if you are going to try hosting a debate then the moderator has to be a neutral referee. Also, you don't get the change the rules at the last second of a debate. The rules are 100% already agreed to beforehand. That was one of the most dishonest things I ever saw in my life.

[@stanclayton1085]

Really smashed it home how he's such an experienced debater 😂😂😂

[@MrAlleluia00]

I'd love to see Andrew, Jay Dryer, and Sam Shamoun team up. It would be fun to watch.

[@PaulRayProductions]

Andrew is a rock star 🌟

[@LaminSuwaneh-f1f]

Christians win in comment sections only 😂😂😂

[@Ng-zg4dq]

Nah

[@OGTheDemon]

Idk man seems like anytime christians show up in the middle east armed, you ppl become part of the landscape after they turn it into a glass floor.

[@ksjdjdbx]

Lantern almost lost his dimming light when he mistakenly accepted to have a short debate with Avery, hahahaha

[@Deathstro]

the light is gone, dyer blew him out.

[@eurovisionwtf]

Well, you can argue that from a Muslims perspective, defending against that their Prophet married a 6 year old is equally as hard as you defending the Trinity. Especially since their own scholars teach new Muslims that Aisha was 18. Not even the scholars that teaches that wants to go into the argument of defending it. If you google "Al hakam Age of Aisha"

[@YeahHanzo]

Muzlame lantern on control mode

[@yaqalp]

He even admits that’s it very difficult to explain the trinity of lies.

[@YeahHanzo]

Islam justifies pf... they can't get away with it

[@Ng-zg4dq]

Easy Christian W

[@ne-yobrown4226]

Anyone wants to know how weak this guy in debates watch all the debates till the end

[@cuttru8041]

You acted like a child and tried to dictate how the other person could or could not frame his answer.

[@OGTheDemon]

No the camel riders tried to change the rules of the debate. And lantern was literally arguing from hypocrisy which is a fallacy. Feel like ppl like you need meds dude.

[@Babymercy8]

The Trinity is very simple; God appeared as a man to Abraham, Jacob, Gideon, etc. Psalms mentions God's son The Holy Spirit is in the Tanakh The Tanakh contains the Trinity

[@lyamc4445]

Let me explain it in a simpler way. God came down slept with his mother and wholla 🎉 God was born but unfortunately God was killed 33 years later . It's that simple

[@anaximanderofapollonia9842]

Married her at 6-7 (and "played" with her") and then consumated the marriage at 9. Not betrothed her at 6-7 and married her at 9. End result = no minimum age for marriage, just for consumation.

[@AnasFaL]

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[@manav40181]

Sneako is a snake. Andrew probably did the debate as a friendly favor but then Sneako says very clearly during the "debate" that him and Andrew arent friends. You cannot debate with ppl whose life goal is to subjugate everyone to their rules.

[@stanclayton1085]

Well put! Totally agreed 👍

[@DarknetDecoded]

I for one was disappointed with the way you debated this one. Just discuss the issue, give each other time to speak. No everything has to be a war.

[@OGTheDemon]

The guy refused to answer the questions and kept using fallacies and trying to move onto a less indefensible position.

[@GaliscesGaming]

I'm convinced he put Fallout in the title for gamer clickbait.

[@apizzle1204]

Is there anyway you will debate him again in the future? Would love to see it again if this dude actually agrees to the terms on camera

[@royjones7831]

They are allowed to lie to you.

[@fiveSolas879]

do it brother! its all they mostly want to "debate".

[@caldwelldy]

Changing debate terms in the debate

[@rafeeqturner1458]

Ironic,this was a global practice, not exclusive to Eslam, in that time period. Even if the marriage was consummated (even if Ayesha was actually 9)

[@duncanidaho5834]

Watching the Muslims recoiling in shock to learn Sneako is now their champion. Oof, man, fuckin oof.

[@stevenvonsancho]

I dont believe their is such a thing as a "good faith debate" about religion because its not your faith

[@tollyboy-]

Andrew you should stick to debating only fans girls. Watching you on that live was hilarious

[@OGTheDemon]

Lol so what ur saying is... Its hard for you to keep up?

[@LionOf.Christ]

يسوع المسيح هو الطريق والحق والحياه ☦️

[@Not_-me]

Please don’t ask me about the same thing you have in my religion 😂👍

[@quite3560]

I'm not a trinitarian, nor unitarian, nor binitarian, am I going to hell?

[@joeyzero819]

What's wild is there's a video of Musllim Lantern debating a Christian in the streets, and he LITERALLY SAYS that it makes no sense to point out the other's religious views to defend their own. HYPOCRITE

[@joeyzero819]

If anyone's interested, look up "Christian Attempts His Best To Disprove Islam! Muhammed Ali" on YT- thumbnail is of him and a big dude with headphones. Right at 1:15, he says EXACTLY what Andrew pointed out is completely unnecessary to defend one's position.

[@ryansclubCEO]

​@@joeyzero819good thing we cant take single sentences out of context and compare them to other sentences in a different context

[@joeyzero819]

@@ryansclubCEO I don’t know about that… he was pretty clear on his explanation and then used the same exact approach that he lectured the guy on the street for using. Not really understanding your comment.

[@ryansclubCEO]

@@joeyzero819 The video you linked is not analagous. Muslim Lantern answered the question of Andrew, and then wanted to point out hypocrisy. The man in the video didn't want to answer the question, he just wanted to directly say "what about this" Then there is added context that this debate with Andrew is a moral debate. As a christian you draw morals from your bible. If the debate was "I personally dont think this is moral" then Lantern wouldnt have agreed to debate because all he will argue is "God is standard of morality"...

[@joeyzero819]

@@ryansclubCEO did you watch the entire exchange between Andrew and Lantern? Nearly all of his responses were ‘what about-isms’.

[@Mikemummy33]

wasnt she 6 or 7 not 9?

[@zhenyakc3586]

Married at 6 Bedded at 9

[@Mikemummy33]

@@zhenyakc3586 so wild. Free Palestine tho and allow old men to be pedos. Sure Satan.

[@ANtroposo524]

I am waiting for the Andrew wilson x J peterson

[@themeatspot5020]

Extreme islam is the snake in the grass Moderate islam is the grass hiding the snake

[@HypostaticU]

August 2024 will be a lasting nightmare for the ummah 🍳🍳🍳

[@theroman1009]

9:22 islamists don't operate /argue in good faith.

[@amran9806]

You're only right about not changing to Trinity before finishing the first topic. Other than that, honestly, you took the L. You tried to dictate what he says and asked him not to mention Christianity. If you believe in young girls' marriage, then why do you criticize others over it? Unless you start by stating that it's wrong in your religion as well, that was hypocritical, and he called you out on it.

[@OGTheDemon]

Its called a whataboutism. An argument from hypocrisy, which is a fuking fallacy lol. You ppl rly dont know how debates work do you? "WELL CHRISTIANS DO IT 2 REEEEEEE" IF THAT WAS INDEED THE CASE DOES IT SOMEHOW VALIDATE THE MUSLIM POSITION?

[@weaintdointhis]

This dude is so acoustic.