Baker Jack Phillip Refused To Make Cake For Gay Couple: I’ve Had Death Threats | Megyn Kelly TODAY

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6 жыл бұрын

Colorado baker Jack Phillips refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple on the grounds that it would violate his religious beliefs, and now his case is before the Supreme Court. Joining Megyn Kelly TODAY along with his attorney, Kristen Waggoner, an emotional Phillips says, “There were days when my wife was afraid to come into the shop.”
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Baker Jack Phillip Refused To Make Cake For Gay Couple: I’ve Had Death Threats | Megyn Kelly TODAY

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@laynn104
@laynn104 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't funny how those who demand to be tolerated are unwilling to tolerate?
@befirmbefair6674
@befirmbefair6674 6 жыл бұрын
In the end, Progressivism brooks no rivals.
@debbiewilson7878
@debbiewilson7878 6 жыл бұрын
laynn 10 So true... well said
@KreSade01
@KreSade01 6 жыл бұрын
Funnier yet that the ones who demand to be tolerated. Are the ones calling these people up and making death threats. Forget the business. These people sought to devour the Christians. That's what they do. They didn't go to another bakery, they didn't ask a Muslim baker or a Jewish baker. It's sad its gross. He didn't deny making them a cake. He just didn't want to make a homosexual cake. He offered to make something else with another message on it. Because of that they threaten and ruined his life. Shame on them.
@mylifepostpain3705
@mylifepostpain3705 6 жыл бұрын
laynn 10 we unwilling to tolerate being treated unfairly, so we will refuse to show tolerance to those who do not show us or our freedom any kind of respect.
@kkdoc7864
@kkdoc7864 6 жыл бұрын
laynn 10 outstanding comment!!
@FloeticEnigma
@FloeticEnigma 6 жыл бұрын
He didn’t refuse to sell them a product, he refused to create artwork that went against his beliefs. No one should be forced to create something that violates their own ethics.
@maranathacomelord7115
@maranathacomelord7115 5 жыл бұрын
True, especially if they are sinless and live saintly lives. smh
@pussiriffic
@pussiriffic 5 жыл бұрын
But the artwork on the cake is part of the product. & whist I agree he has a right to choose who he does his artwork for, he doesn’t have a right to deny service based on sexual orientation. If the court rule in the bakers favour & sets a precedence. Where will it end? Will a paramedic be allowed to discriminate against a patient because their lifestyle or religion etc is against their beliefs? Whilst I feel for the couple who feel they’ve been discriminated against, It’s just a cake. All this couple had to do was go & get a cake from another bakery.
@katakisLives
@katakisLives 5 жыл бұрын
A cake is a product. end of story
@dennischarm6876
@dennischarm6876 5 жыл бұрын
Then don’t open a business. If you want to be an artist then make paintings / cakes at home . Don’t open a buissnsss and then shut down someone because you believe that some man in the sky said it was wrong”
@jelloistasty
@jelloistasty 5 жыл бұрын
@@maranathacomelord7115 actually no one is free of sin it's stated in the bible ☝🏼🤓
@mysticoversoul
@mysticoversoul 6 жыл бұрын
For heaven's sake, go find another bakery or bake the cake yourself.
@schuylkillmike8048
@schuylkillmike8048 6 жыл бұрын
For heaven's sake, obey Colorado's public accommodation laws if you want to sell a product.
@schuylkillmike8048
@schuylkillmike8048 6 жыл бұрын
They sell wedding cakes to everyone except gays. That's a class of persons.
@ethanhwhite1455
@ethanhwhite1455 6 жыл бұрын
thank you
@butterfly8272
@butterfly8272 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Weiss he didn't want to sell a product. That's why.They should have bought a nice cake from him, like he offered ,and put the two men symbol on top of it by them selves. But they didn't want to, they had to sue him.He has a right to practise his religion ,it's his legal right.Try asking a pastor or rabbi or mullah to wed two men or women. Some might do it, most wouldn't.
@SlyTus
@SlyTus 6 жыл бұрын
So can he not sell to black people and Mexicans as well?
@annaw982
@annaw982 5 жыл бұрын
Why don't they demand a Kosher deli make them a pork sandwich?
@ianw1976
@ianw1976 3 жыл бұрын
Right??
@learning.growing.1017
@learning.growing.1017 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!
@kellystanley8380
@kellystanley8380 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mylifepostpain3705
@mylifepostpain3705 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and don’t agree. He doesn’t state that his bakery is a religious establishment as far as I know so that makes it very different. Whatever you do sell you should sell to everybody. A kosher restaurant and bakery should sell their kosher products regardless of sexual orientation.
@CrusaderKnight2000
@CrusaderKnight2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@mylifepostpain3705 He never refused to make them a cake, he just refused to put a certain design on it. The guy said he'd make them a cake, but there was certain artwork that he'd be uncomfortable putting on the cake.
@JY-px1bb
@JY-px1bb 6 жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous...if somebody doesn't want to do something they shouldn't have to, that's real freedom and this is just childish
@vreedlak7268
@vreedlak7268 6 жыл бұрын
Unfamiliar with anti-discrimination laws, are you?
@ronanmullins3740
@ronanmullins3740 5 жыл бұрын
@@vreedlak7268 he didnt want to make art that went against his beliefs. That's perfectly fine
@ronanmullins3740
@ronanmullins3740 5 жыл бұрын
@Amanda Charlebois he refuses anti-lgbtq cakes too though
@Aqua.man045
@Aqua.man045 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronanmullins3740 And the supreme court stood by him.
@himwhoisnottobenamed5427
@himwhoisnottobenamed5427 2 жыл бұрын
@@vreedlak7268 P.S. Their lawsuit against him is discriminatory against his beliefs.
@ariawilliams7422
@ariawilliams7422 6 жыл бұрын
This is America right? Shouldn't he have a right to say no?
@stephenstrang590
@stephenstrang590 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously, but now it's official official.
@tsdt4ever
@tsdt4ever 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, if the bakery specifically offers custom wedding cakes, that's the catch. If you offer it to one, you have offer it to all. If you don't, that's discrimination. Now, they say they don't offer Halloween cakes because of thier Christian values. That is totally legal because they aren't offering Halloween cakes to only certain groups. Their simple solution would be a sign saying they specialize in Christian wedding cakes. At that point, their covered because they aren't offering wedding cakes as a general practice. That being said, i don't agree with their stance. And i wouldn't operate a business that way. Money is money. But, if you offer a specific service, custom decorated wedding cakes, you can't withhold that service based on gender, age, race or religion; unless you are specifically only offering Christian wedding cakes. Now that being said. This couple shouldn't rely on Uncle Sugar to be their bully. They should have been polite and said cool, I'll take my money and business elsewhere and let others know. Uncle Sugar is not the solution to every problem.
@hippios
@hippios 4 жыл бұрын
@@tsdt4ever This man has prioritized God over money, and bless him for that
@ryt25
@ryt25 3 жыл бұрын
Natalie Gamble shouldn’t they have a right to cake
@brandon_gf
@brandon_gf 3 жыл бұрын
@@tsdt4ever 🤡🤡🤡
@mar1no124
@mar1no124 5 жыл бұрын
Hey can you make me a cake? No, I cannot make you a cake Ok, I'll just go to another baker Ok, cool.
@Promare2019
@Promare2019 4 жыл бұрын
1Galan what’s the reason why you can’t make me a cake?
@Capybarrrraaaa
@Capybarrrraaaa 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, but now expand that to it's extreme. If the law sides with that baker here, and the socity all holds the same views, now that person can't get a cake because of who they are.
@pattithompsett9540
@pattithompsett9540 4 жыл бұрын
@@Capybarrrraaaa but thats not what happened.the baker was very specific and did not refuse them service
@southwestlondonerbrown2737
@southwestlondonerbrown2737 4 жыл бұрын
Patti Thompsett if everyone has the same views then where would they be able to get the specific wedding cake they want for their wedding?
@southwestlondonerbrown2737
@southwestlondonerbrown2737 4 жыл бұрын
Patti Thompsett But still if everyone held the same views then they wouldn’t be able to get a wedding cake anywhere where as heterosexuals would be treated with a lot more respect. Respect and serve others regardless of their sexuality.
@flosj1405
@flosj1405 6 жыл бұрын
It is just like asking pork at a muslim owned restaurant.
@btdfw
@btdfw 6 жыл бұрын
That's totally not what it's like. If the baker gets away with it, then so do hospitals and doctors.
@lynnsmith399
@lynnsmith399 6 жыл бұрын
Bryan Phillips What messaging is involved in the tasks of a Dr? Since when do hospitals heal you with art? In what way does a Dr violate their religious beliefs to care for someone? Both are bad examples. To be a proper example it would have to violate: 1. Freedom of speech 2. Freedom of religion 3. Freedom of association Like a muslim seamstress forced to make a baptismal gown. Or a catholic graphic designer forced to design an ad for an atheist group. It’s compelled speech that violates your religious beliefs.
@cloroxbleach6344
@cloroxbleach6344 6 жыл бұрын
I see the point you’re trying to make but a Muslim owner restaurant wouldn’t have pork in the first place (if the business model is targeted towards Muslims), and if they did then it would mean they’d be willing to sell pork.
@onajitetaire
@onajitetaire 6 жыл бұрын
And making them make it
@onajitetaire
@onajitetaire 6 жыл бұрын
Bryan Phillips dimwit, doctors swear an oath
@goldenera4ever
@goldenera4ever 6 жыл бұрын
Bottom line is he has the right to say no to any request imo. I'm against anything alcohol/drug related so I wouldn't make a cake depicting the use of either. Does that mean I'm discriminating against drugs/alcohol? Find another cake maker.
@nyc4233
@nyc4233 6 жыл бұрын
GoldenEra 4ever You can refuse, but you subject yourself to potential lawsuit. Legally speaking you refusing to provide a service based on someone else practices or personality which is basically discrimination. Judges and lawyers see things through a legal lens. It's not about if you're a nice guy or not?
@TheMasterOfOmni1900
@TheMasterOfOmni1900 6 жыл бұрын
+Brad B. By the looks of things. He isnt a a bad guy. He's following the rules of his religion and his belief to a T. You say he is half witted because he doesnt want to partake in something that he doesnt believe in. You can force, tolerance, but you cant force acceptance. It's the same with racism and sexism. Also, assuming he's stupid or half witted makes you appear childish. Picking on a man who cant defend himself.
@desoliver9712
@desoliver9712 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the legal argument she is making is a slippery slope argument. The fact is, in all other civilized nations discriminating based on sexuality is illegal, that doesn't mean a leftwing speechwriter is ever forced to create speeches for right-wingers. For your beliefs to be taken seriously as a genuine basis for discriminating against gays you first have to: A). demonstrate god's existence. B) Demonstrate that your beliefs is in accordance with his belief. +Terrell Williams I disagree if he were following the rules to a T, and being consistent he would be turning people down who eat shellfish. He also looks like he's wearing mixed threads which are prohibited under the Abrahamic God's law. This is why his argument is very stupid because he's unable to act consistently within his own religious dogmas, and basically using it as a shield for his bigotry...
@DC-jw4iq
@DC-jw4iq 6 жыл бұрын
GoldenEra 4ever i agree. I seen a sign that said, 'no shirt, no shoes, no service' Same concept
@BadDriversOz
@BadDriversOz 6 жыл бұрын
He can say no, but should he? Refusing is being UNchristian anyway!
@desireejoyalcala
@desireejoyalcala 6 жыл бұрын
The couple is after the money! Its plain and simple. They can go to another baker but they insisted and pressured the Philips to go against his religious conviction.
@vreedlak7268
@vreedlak7268 6 жыл бұрын
Nope. Colorado law doesn't allow them to collect a cent. It's not nice to commit false witness. The only remedies allowed by the law are injunctive - like court orders. This bakery was punished by Colorado ordering it to: (i) cease and desist from violating the law; (ii) educate its employees about the law; and (iii) file quarterly reports for a 2-year period (which expired a couple of years ago) detailing all instances of refusal of service. That's it. Here's the decision (see p. 4): www.aclu.org/legal-document/craig-and-mullins-v-masterpiece-cakeshop-commissions-final-order
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 2 жыл бұрын
@@vreedlak7268 it all seems more like a fake story, though.
@ThompsonFlash9999
@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын
The baker couple? Absolutely. The far right ate this up, gave them all kinds of free publicity, what a grifter!
@joshuab464
@joshuab464 5 жыл бұрын
This man is being bullied by a community of people that are against bullying....? The irony is strong
@wolftitanreading5308
@wolftitanreading5308 4 жыл бұрын
not really bullying its just showing, that simply enough intolerance shouldn't be tolerant
@AsmaaPurity
@AsmaaPurity 3 жыл бұрын
True
@archravenineteenseventeen
@archravenineteenseventeen 3 жыл бұрын
@The Christian lol he can say no and those morons should just proceed to go to another baker
@ParanoidBobby
@ParanoidBobby 3 жыл бұрын
@The Christian Change your name, you are a false pos and its disgusting
@jesst1306
@jesst1306 3 жыл бұрын
@The Christian he did nothing wrong. He has a right to refuse service and homosexuals can just go to another place to get their cake. What’s so hard about that???
@dralaskalala
@dralaskalala 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't he have the right to refuse service to anyone? A bar sure does
@crzyprplmnky
@crzyprplmnky 6 жыл бұрын
If you can prove that you were not provided service based on race, religion, sexuality, that is illegal. If a bar doesn't allow a drunkard in that's fine. But they can't refuse service to every black person who tries to enter.
@evastaitz9911
@evastaitz9911 6 жыл бұрын
yes he does. and i have the freedom to picket his bakery and make him lose customers. hence, go him out of business. how do you like them apples?
@miles3798
@miles3798 6 жыл бұрын
Not really. It's discrimination.
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 6 жыл бұрын
Eva Staitz apples are just fine. yep both have those rights. so?
@janasali821
@janasali821 5 жыл бұрын
Brad B. This is more like a reason being put IN the butt! 🤭
@moniquewhite2850
@moniquewhite2850 6 жыл бұрын
Good for standing up for your religious belief.
@MireVale
@MireVale 6 жыл бұрын
Monique White in other words standing up for discrimination. Bravo
@ruwaydabarkhad9976
@ruwaydabarkhad9976 6 жыл бұрын
+Katie Zientek do you have to like gays or serve them?! no
@pussiriffic
@pussiriffic 5 жыл бұрын
& good for the couple for standing up for their equal rights & discriminatory bigoted business.
@jessH090
@jessH090 5 жыл бұрын
Monique White you ate disgusting if you encourage discriminating against a group of people doing absolutely no harm to you. Religion can not be used as a smoke screen to be a horrible person.
@jessH090
@jessH090 5 жыл бұрын
JJ that is the most ridiculous comment I’ve ever seen!!! All those ‘examples’ you gave, were things that were harmful. The KKK?? a woman MOLESTED by a priest??? Those examples are ludicrous because they actually meant harm to people. Homosexuals are did no harm to you, did they?
@rejoyce2946
@rejoyce2946 5 жыл бұрын
It broke my heart when hearing how the community would sent death threats to his wife and they lost up to 40% of profits. These people have gone too far.😓
@Angeloflight7
@Angeloflight7 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly yet God forbid it happens to them, then the whole world must stand still? Such hypocrisy. I really have lost all respect for the LGBT community
@btdfw
@btdfw 4 жыл бұрын
@@Angeloflight7 Did you ever really have any? And if you're talking about toleration, it is plain stupid and a move backward to tolerate intolerance and that is exactly the backward mentality you portrait. Do you even understand what it is you're saying? The only hypocrisy you could possibly see is in a mirror.
@Angeloflight7
@Angeloflight7 4 жыл бұрын
@Ethan Hobigant Roche lol dude I'm not even American so I don't even understand ur rant but each to their own. The truth shall be revealed very soon. I just pray you receive it and have your eyes opened. God bless you
@candirockstar135
@candirockstar135 4 жыл бұрын
I don't endorse death threats but people have the right to decide not to work for them or patronize them for this statement.
@prophetvsprofit
@prophetvsprofit 4 жыл бұрын
@@Angeloflight7 Oh no! What will we do without your respect random internet person?
@giulianaoyolalozada5153
@giulianaoyolalozada5153 6 жыл бұрын
My husband has faced similar challenges. He is an artist and sometimes people asked him to do illustration about death, satan,..etc. He respectfully had to reject certain projects that were against his beliefs. That's it! Not the persons, but the message.
@yodamatino9223
@yodamatino9223 2 жыл бұрын
I am a member of the lgbt community and if this were me I would simply say, “okay” and go to another cake shop. I find it unfair to force the artist to make something is they do not want to.
@volourn9764
@volourn9764 2 жыл бұрын
He even offered to make them another cake or other stuff. He didn't refuse them service. He refused to make a specific design.
@yodamatino9223
@yodamatino9223 2 жыл бұрын
@@volourn9764 Right!
@teamtundra2619
@teamtundra2619 2 жыл бұрын
@@yodamatino9223 still disagree
@RedTitan5
@RedTitan5 2 жыл бұрын
I agree he has this right.... Those guys are hurt but they can go to other shops...me I believe in karma...but we should respect others belief...there is a place for everyone....such as bad and good guys... The cake man is a nice guy...like the couple
@matthewharris8819
@matthewharris8819 Жыл бұрын
Well, that's the problem. The marginalized are supposed to just grin and bear it when bigots exercise their hatred. But the hate and exclusion remains. Its time for the hateful to bear the brunt of their hate.
@christianalaniz4366
@christianalaniz4366 5 жыл бұрын
If he doesn’t want to bake a cake for you, he doesn’t have to. They choose their business. Move on, go somewhere else😂
@AM-cs8yi
@AM-cs8yi 3 жыл бұрын
several businesses prior to that accepted to make them a cake but that couple kept looking to find someone who would refuse, so pathetic
@fahadshahid5185
@fahadshahid5185 3 жыл бұрын
They did and he lost 40% profits
@AsmaaPurity
@AsmaaPurity 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Freedom is for everybody but they want it for them only refusing to be bullied and yet bullying others for their choices! what kind of logic is that
@jesst1306
@jesst1306 3 жыл бұрын
exactly
@missJolie85
@missJolie85 3 жыл бұрын
What if he doesn't want to serve you or your child because of your color? Your gender? Were do you draw the line?Is there no line? So if you have a child birthday party at a place, it would be ok for the company to pick and choose who to serve among the children?
@kristinetank3959
@kristinetank3959 6 жыл бұрын
Why wud you want to give your business to someone that didnt agree with your lifestyle anyways?......take it somehwere else....and all would be good.he has the right to refuse service.
@calisongbird
@calisongbird 6 жыл бұрын
Kristine Tank it’s not their “lifestyle,” it’s their identity. Is your heterosexuality a “lifestyle”??
@doobymantoker3944
@doobymantoker3944 6 жыл бұрын
Kristine Tank they went out of their way to screw his life over wich intails harassment!
@randycadkins
@randycadkins 6 жыл бұрын
Mans laws, that go against Gods laws, do not count.
@mylifepostpain3705
@mylifepostpain3705 6 жыл бұрын
Randycadkins actually they DO count and you still have to follow them because god isn’t proven to exist.
@randycadkins
@randycadkins 6 жыл бұрын
Rebecca Brown we CAN NOT nor will we follow laws that go against God's laws, proof is all around you, everything was made by Him, even you and me, im not trying to convince you of this truth, niether does that make He who made all things not exist, its the truth, and truth does not always make others happy, people like to be lied to, (to make them feel better about themselves) but lieng to make someone feel better is not loving
@daciabridges909
@daciabridges909 5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s ridiculous. They could of taken their money some where else and left that man alone. Point blank!
@bohemiangod3658
@bohemiangod3658 3 жыл бұрын
So leave when there is a problem?
@saklee1777
@saklee1777 Жыл бұрын
@@bohemiangod3658 problem? What r u talking about? There is no problem! Should I whine and cry over not being able to buy a TV at McDonald’s and sue them instead of just going to best buy or something?! Cakeshop is a private owned business that’s allowed to sell what they want as long as it’s not illegal items.
@kilowolf6341
@kilowolf6341 Жыл бұрын
@@bohemiangod3658 there wasn't a problem
@oliviawonderful7555
@oliviawonderful7555 6 жыл бұрын
Just go to a different bakery to get the cake you want. Resolved.
@williamrogers9765
@williamrogers9765 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, when you are denied to live in an apartment building, or a job, or participate in events, hum, then I would call that discrimination. Resolved would to be get rid of religion! Stop the madness people. Follow the law of LOVE and then problem solved. Not crazy dogma that is set up by man/woman who says it is religion. Wow, the brain washing that has been going on for centuries!
@joypaark
@joypaark 6 жыл бұрын
William Rogers, who made the law of love? Brain washing? You don't realize you already have your own belief and your own religion. Get rid of your own religion first.
@williamrogers9765
@williamrogers9765 6 жыл бұрын
I have no religion.
@joypaark
@joypaark 6 жыл бұрын
You don't get it. The way you make an absolute statement and the way you emphasize your own belief makes you really look like you have own religion. You do have your own religion!!
@williamrogers9765
@williamrogers9765 6 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I do not get what you are saying.
@asunset8545
@asunset8545 6 жыл бұрын
you don't have to hate someone to not agree with them,this man is in the right. #Leavehimalone!
@olivias.1615
@olivias.1615 4 жыл бұрын
I support LGBT+ all the way but on the bakers side 100%
@southwestlondonerbrown2737
@southwestlondonerbrown2737 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in two minds. He should be able to follow his religious beliefs but he shouldn’t be able to deny a product just because someone or in this case two people are gat
@xelzevach9292
@xelzevach9292 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I know how Christians behave ok, It's just a dame 🎂 Jesus said when you love one another you'll be know as my disciples simple as that, I think Christians must read their bibles cause they are judging and that's not the will of GOD just remember our relationship with God is personal, the great commission is go share the gospel not judge. Please do not react like religious act as a child of GOD.
@tc1uscg65
@tc1uscg65 3 жыл бұрын
@@southwestlondonerbrown2737 He didn't deny a product. He just refused to provide his services to give them a finished product. They were offered ANYTHING else in the store, but they chose to go after him anyway. It became more about principle then the cake.
@xelzevach9292
@xelzevach9292 3 жыл бұрын
@@jesst1306 sound like gentil pretending to do the right thing using our LORD name and word uh..? Just think about this what is the difference ÷ you " Gods people " and the LGBT.... People? And I want you think about this because God told me that when I was trying to do the right think but I was judging people, and of course my first reaction was puuffff obio God, .... But He told me the way you are describing this person for who he is what he did you be came like him, so theres no diference ÷ him and you then He make me think deeply and I say yes LORD you are right, I'm sorry. So what I learned is that I wouldn't think highly fo me just because I am saved because I'm the LORD people, or just because " I know the truth". There's a lot to learn dear sis, we do not know the truth completely yet, really just think about who is JESUS how he act and aprouch situations, I think he shares his love to every body so yes He would make that 🎂. For God's love just be who God wants you to be. But I cant blame you fir everything, God has a purpose in our life and he do unimaginable things just to see our reaction and see who we are and give you a chance over and over just to teach us and open our 💕 👀 and learn to see people the way He sees people.
@zakurowolfalphasilverwolf
@zakurowolfalphasilverwolf 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! He doesn’t make Halloween cakes?! I’m impressed. This man stand firmly for what he believes in 😊😊😊😊
@zakurowolfalphasilverwolf
@zakurowolfalphasilverwolf 4 жыл бұрын
Norwegian 787 that’s true, many Christians believe that
@zakurowolfalphasilverwolf
@zakurowolfalphasilverwolf 3 жыл бұрын
@C Back for information hmmm, he probably is
@learning.growing.1017
@learning.growing.1017 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN!! I pray to be like him, and esp like Jesus
@zakurowolfalphasilverwolf
@zakurowolfalphasilverwolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@learning.growing.1017 amen!!!!!
@missJolie85
@missJolie85 3 жыл бұрын
@@learning.growing.1017 Jesus would never have treated anyone like that
@moogdome2562
@moogdome2562 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with the baker. poor man.what has the world come to?.
@roder51
@roder51 4 жыл бұрын
I hear...Poor little bigot
@doblvevu
@doblvevu 4 жыл бұрын
moog Dome exactly dude
@doblvevu
@doblvevu 4 жыл бұрын
Doll Steak but the couple is straight so...no
@doblvevu
@doblvevu 4 жыл бұрын
Doll Steak but you gotta think real. There is no “if”so that’s it. I know your just saying but did it happen? No. Is it a situation that could happen? yes, but it didn’t. Okay? :)
@doblvevu
@doblvevu 4 жыл бұрын
Doll Steak cool
@lightningbrigade257
@lightningbrigade257 4 жыл бұрын
Civil rights should never be about sexual acts in the bedroom.. I'm glad you won Jack.
@kathysheehan1
@kathysheehan1 6 жыл бұрын
Go to another baker..He has his right too
@AutoGamerZ_
@AutoGamerZ_ 6 жыл бұрын
+mk Silly except he doesn't. A bakery (of any kind) is a PUBLIC (For all) accommodation, service cannot legally be denied in Public (Not private) accommodations for any reason not related to safety or the breaking of laws in relation to the business. - There is also specific groups protected from discrimination outside of that, 23 states include LGBT individuals in that list. - The state this bakery was in included in that list of 23 states. Simply put: No he doesn't, and the court has affirmed that on all levels. The challange to the supreme court isn't even that that law should change, it's that Wedding cakes would be considdered Art, not an accommodationary object. (as it is now), which has been attempted before without success. Why? Just because something contains art, doesn't mean the purpose of said object is Art. A painting, can be made using food, and it'll still be a painting. A piece of food can be made with decorative Art(s), but it'll still be a food.
@59771006
@59771006 6 жыл бұрын
What he has the right to discriminate? No he doesn't discrimination is against the law.
@Tsuruta1
@Tsuruta1 6 жыл бұрын
Douglas Roth We are all "discriminated" to certain extent. Does not mean that it's "against the law."
@Tsuruta1
@Tsuruta1 6 жыл бұрын
Brad B. You have that backwards.
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 6 жыл бұрын
AutoGamerz it's a private company.
@nthe7579
@nthe7579 5 жыл бұрын
There’s a fine line between actual discrimination and refusing to engage with actions that go against your religion.
@vanzonhl
@vanzonhl 6 жыл бұрын
Its his own shop.. whats the freakin' problem... its his loss in income, so he can do whatever he wants... When he's a die hard New York Knicks fan and doesnt wanna put a Boston Celtics Logo on a cake its his right to do so...
@nyc4233
@nyc4233 6 жыл бұрын
Yes but if he sells the cake in exchange for a remuneration as a result of the service he provides, he needs to be consistent and also abide by the law. If you're not a supporter of Trump and you're asked to bake a cake with his face and MAGA on it, is it ok to refuse the customer that service because you don't approve of Trump? I think the main issue they are concerned about is that this can lead to extreme discriminatory practices.
@butterflygirl141
@butterflygirl141 6 жыл бұрын
That's a design based refusal and it's not discrimination. If the baker for example refused to make that Celtics logo cake, that is where you could argue a free speech right. It's also not discrimination because he wouldn't make that cake for anyone who walked into his shop no matter who they were.
@rileyingram5631
@rileyingram5631 6 жыл бұрын
clrscr you're right but the government is making him make the cake or loss his business were he can't do a single thing that he wants to do
@lunanova6651
@lunanova6651 5 жыл бұрын
@@nyc4233 Yes, it is totally okay to refuse to bake a cake with trumps face on it. Amazing news right?
@Lunzzxii
@Lunzzxii 6 жыл бұрын
I kind of agree with the bakers. I mean if I'm a doctor I shouldn't be forced to perform an abortion, right? And it seems like he was nice. He didn't say you can't purchase smthg. here....he just said I have certain beliefs and I choose not to make one for you. Why don't they just get cake at another bakery?
@TheMMMBecky
@TheMMMBecky 6 жыл бұрын
re2dance unfortunately the government is trying to force Dr's to perform abortions against their beliefs as well.
@SilverLakeify
@SilverLakeify 6 жыл бұрын
re2dance you are right. I run a Mexican restaurant. I don't like serving smug, White people at my business. It goes against my basic principles and ethics. Bye, bye 🙋🏽‍♂️
@janelin6083
@janelin6083 6 жыл бұрын
And if all the bakeries in the state "exercise" the same "religious belief" and discriminate, THEN WHAT? The happy couple can fly to New York to get a cake?
@TheMMMBecky
@TheMMMBecky 6 жыл бұрын
Jane Lin then they could make their own cake.
@mattm7798
@mattm7798 6 жыл бұрын
We'll make you a deal. Show me a state where every single baker in a medium sized city refuses such a service, then we'll talk. Until then, it is a straw man fallacy.
@matthewkain453
@matthewkain453 6 жыл бұрын
Aren’t liberals for freedom of choice? Umm 😐
@ClassicFIHD
@ClassicFIHD 6 жыл бұрын
Only if it's their choice.
@TheMMMBecky
@TheMMMBecky 6 жыл бұрын
ClassicFIHD haha for real.
@christianalaniz4366
@christianalaniz4366 5 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it obvious, liberals are always contradicting themselves to benefit them!😂
@wolftitanreading5308
@wolftitanreading5308 4 жыл бұрын
as long as it doesn't discriminate from other people, you're free to do what you want as long as you're not causing harm or discriminating against other people
@matthewkain453
@matthewkain453 4 жыл бұрын
Wolf Titan Reading correct
@carolbenson6524
@carolbenson6524 6 жыл бұрын
I agree...I wouldn't make the cake either if I didn't want to. Its my business.
@nyc4233
@nyc4233 6 жыл бұрын
Carol Benson "your business" in NOT above the law! It comes with obligations towards the public/customers
@mylifepostpain3705
@mylifepostpain3705 6 жыл бұрын
Carol Benson then be prepared to lose your business and deservedly so
@miles3798
@miles3798 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO, it's discrimination though! It's so f*cking homophobic, and discrimination is against the law.
@mylifepostpain3705
@mylifepostpain3705 6 жыл бұрын
K. Smith yes it is. Sadly once again, the courts have ruled in favour of homophobic behaviour. One step forward two steps back
@miles3798
@miles3798 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah..
@madisonsamson8194
@madisonsamson8194 6 жыл бұрын
That attorney is amazing.
@trevortrevortsr2
@trevortrevortsr2 6 жыл бұрын
Jack is not allowed to talk to any media without her approval - she has done more to limit his freedom than any cake request
@LoggyWD
@LoggyWD 6 жыл бұрын
She's also hot.
@golfer435
@golfer435 5 жыл бұрын
@jfsfrnd Also known as good debate skills. She's also not wrong
@Isabella66Gracen
@Isabella66Gracen 5 жыл бұрын
Really disappointed in Megyns inability to see his side as valid. I guess I was wrongfully expecting her to still be fair and balanced. Go figure!
@golfer435
@golfer435 5 жыл бұрын
My guess is that she was supposed to play devil's advocate. Usually how these things go so they can get a more complete conversation.
@shimmer4771
@shimmer4771 Жыл бұрын
The object was to be one sided. These people are pro homosexual, so they're only gonna side with them.
@justanotherone9648
@justanotherone9648 3 жыл бұрын
despite everything, he stuck with his faith-- such an admirable person... my heart goes out for this person
@yttommy76
@yttommy76 2 жыл бұрын
he stuck to his intolerance in a behaviour Jesus would have said to him.....are you serious - saying you are a christian (in my name) and treating this couple in this way - have i taught you nothing???. If the bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasnt, its that you should make cakes for homosexual couples.
@bryantstudentd3831
@bryantstudentd3831 2 жыл бұрын
@@yttommy76 I see you haven't read of page of the bible huh?
@yttommy76
@yttommy76 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryantstudentd3831 none of it - its a made up rag
@bryantstudentd3831
@bryantstudentd3831 2 жыл бұрын
@@yttommy76 Okay then Shut up and and don't talk about what you don't know instead of pretending to quote Jesus.
@yttommy76
@yttommy76 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryantstudentd3831 of course I have read it you halfwit
@t.c.1209
@t.c.1209 Жыл бұрын
A baker in California just won her case for the same scenario. She explained her faith & declined to bake their cake. She introduced them to several bakers in the area which were just as good as a baker/cake designer & one of which was a part of the LBGTQ community. The couple did in fact use her referral & enjoyed their wedding. The audacity they would want to violate her religious belief & behavior to honor their rights is totally absurd!
@oneillhighlightproductions7876
@oneillhighlightproductions7876 6 жыл бұрын
Good for him! Way to stand up for your religion!!! 🇺🇸
@ThompsonFlash9999
@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын
Wow, he has also said it was against his religion to serve black people. Way to encourage discrimination!
@oneillhighlightproductions7876
@oneillhighlightproductions7876 Жыл бұрын
@@ThompsonFlash9999 that’s not true. Jesus was a black man so please explain that to me
@JaniahOnfroy
@JaniahOnfroy 4 ай бұрын
​@@ThompsonFlash9999where's the proof of this?
@ThompsonFlash9999
@ThompsonFlash9999 4 ай бұрын
@@JaniahOnfroy would you defend that? If he said his religion called for that discrimination, would you accept it? What if it was a Jewish person who said they didn't wanna serve Christians. Would you defend that?
@lwf3723
@lwf3723 4 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful gentle man, stand strong in your beliefs
@JuweriaAli
@JuweriaAli 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with him 100%!!!! He has right to his religion! You can't force him to abandon his religion!
@ThompsonFlash9999
@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын
If it's against my religion to serve white people, that's cool, right?
@caitlinsoliman1658
@caitlinsoliman1658 5 жыл бұрын
Bullies! Get a cake somewhere else.
@mmanna4641
@mmanna4641 5 жыл бұрын
He declined respectfully and told them why. Good for you!
@lunadexelaju3494
@lunadexelaju3494 6 жыл бұрын
This man has morals, honor and courage!! My respects to you Mr. Baker!! Hope you and your family can recover from all the money and time you lost from having to go to court with those 2 guys.
@Tyler380
@Tyler380 6 жыл бұрын
Freedom of choice.. I wouldn't in a thousand years make that cake if I didn't want to..
@BMarie774
@BMarie774 6 жыл бұрын
Larry 306 Then you shouldn't be a baker, and wouldn't for much longer. There's a difference between freedom of choice and denying business to someone due to prejudice. That is not allowed. Do you enjoy living in ignorance or....?
@brianmcneal150
@brianmcneal150 6 жыл бұрын
Brianna Gordy yea you should force him to make things he doesn't want to,,,we are such a great country....... we should force people to do things that are right i mean this is stupid he hurt their feelings and that is sad he shouldn't be allowed to own a business if he doesn't agree with them..... thank god and the gays we have women like you......
@robertschrader
@robertschrader 6 жыл бұрын
And I don't believe in god and think these people are nuts.
@fool4singing
@fool4singing 6 жыл бұрын
He probably won't (make cakes) for much longer either. His business has suffered due to his prejudiced attitude; God has nothing to do with it. Where is his God now?!? Yeah, that's what I thought...
@vibratingstring
@vibratingstring 6 жыл бұрын
If he offers cakes made to order, to the public, then that is what he must do. Note that he need not personally do it. This is not a matter of his free speech--it is a matter of the customer's free speech. Now if he sold cakes without offering the made to order, then nobody could be "making him do something he don't wanna do." When you offer a product or service to the general public, that is a very different thing than offering your art, as you design it, for sale. The religious right is conflating these two very different scenarios.
@stevennagy5527
@stevennagy5527 6 жыл бұрын
ITS HIS CHOICE! PERIOD!
@nyc4233
@nyc4233 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Nagy his choice is against the law!!!
@jacksonsmith3698
@jacksonsmith3698 5 жыл бұрын
Ice Cream Lover Your IQ test scores are also privately held business. Don’t bring them up, we don’t need to know that your in the special ed class
@katakisLives
@katakisLives 5 жыл бұрын
so no blacks signs are fine as well then?
@liemduong6729
@liemduong6729 5 жыл бұрын
@@nyc4233 His choice is with the constitution, therefore above Colorado Law... So is it really aganist the Law?
@liemduong6729
@liemduong6729 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonsmith3698 And if u didnt read Jesus was the one who cured them... Every heard the story of the 2 Homesless men? Jesus literally goes around curing people of blindness of deafness or death of whatever else is out there. That was used to show that people should help them... How is refusing a service because it directly goes against what your religious beliefs are wrong. And no, Christians do not act persecuted here in the States. Some may, but most don't care as long as you don't touch their church. And race is completely different from S.O. so bringing it up was invalid. And for Muslims and Christians, it depends on what the Activity is. If a Christian asked for food to eat, then they should be served. But if he asked for pork, than the Muslim should refuse service because it is in direct correlation of their religions beliefs.
@Laura.templeton
@Laura.templeton 6 жыл бұрын
Brave man ❤️ May the Lord keep him and bless him. To God all the glory!
@ThompsonFlash9999
@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын
Bigoted man. Why am I not surprised to see Christians defending segregation like we tried to end in the 1960s? By "we," I mean the left, the entire right hated MLK, the civil rights movement, etc. 70% disagreed with MLK the year he died. If you are against the BLM movement, you'd have been against the civil rights movement, just like your bigoted daddies grand-daddies were.
@kennethtucker2181
@kennethtucker2181 5 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the baker for standing his ground and sticking to his beliefs I would've took the same stance its more important to obey God then to obey men.
@moogdome2562
@moogdome2562 4 жыл бұрын
So right.
@fahadshahid5185
@fahadshahid5185 3 жыл бұрын
Way to stand up for bigotry
@AsmaaPurity
@AsmaaPurity 3 жыл бұрын
@@fahadshahid5185 well those gays are the bigots here! he has all the right to say no
@ThompsonFlash9999
@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын
So, you're against the civil rights movement, as long as the bigots thought they were following god? That's disgusting
@SoCuRioUs32
@SoCuRioUs32 6 жыл бұрын
Wow...finally a true believer that took a stand and didn’t allow for “trials and tribulations” to make him wander 👍🏽
@Cristinact
@Cristinact 5 жыл бұрын
It's not a fight against discrimination, it's a huge temper tantrum
@saklee1777
@saklee1777 Жыл бұрын
This cakeshop is a private business. It’s not like target or Walmart. The person that owns the place has the right to decide what they sell. As long as it’s not illegal items, of course.
@ThompsonFlash9999
@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын
Nope. Even a private business cannot deny a black man service for being black
@voluntarism335
@voluntarism335 Жыл бұрын
@@ThompsonFlash9999 Businesses do have that right, it is just infringed upon by the government
@lij_zolazola8946
@lij_zolazola8946 6 жыл бұрын
May God bless you and your family Mr. Jack
@MrStoneyburke
@MrStoneyburke 6 жыл бұрын
Zola zola if i knew you were coming,i,d have BAKED a cake.
@saltychips4866
@saltychips4866 6 жыл бұрын
We, as believers cannot condone what God has condemned.
@legion3964
@legion3964 5 жыл бұрын
Seka Lechita thou shall not judge is exactly what your doing as well if have never sinned throw the first stone
@song9119
@song9119 6 жыл бұрын
Baker won with flying colors.. I don’t know why we still listening to the same predictors that keep on getting it wrong!
@song9119
@song9119 6 жыл бұрын
jfsfrnd the highest court sided with the baker. Pick your own colors
@song9119
@song9119 6 жыл бұрын
jfsfrnd in other words the baker WON. Cut it which ever way you want
@michaelman1217
@michaelman1217 6 жыл бұрын
Singer Nah bro.
@LamesWivams
@LamesWivams 6 жыл бұрын
Singer considering he can't bake wedding cakes anymore sounds like he lost.
@rslv5498
@rslv5498 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Kirk He made the decision by himself to no longer bake cakes. He didn't lose anything.
@ernestopenas5651
@ernestopenas5651 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this man hasn't got the liberty to bake a cake to whoever he pleases
@dawnbaker6047
@dawnbaker6047 6 жыл бұрын
It’s his right as a provider of service and his TALENT. ITS HIS RIGHT PEOPLE GET A GRIP. He’s from my area it’s BS !! Move on get another cake baker. This is political correctness gone berserk 🙄😬
@janelin6083
@janelin6083 6 жыл бұрын
you keep using that word "right" The Constitution doesn't think it means, what you think it means. You don't have the right to discriminate.
@TheMMMBecky
@TheMMMBecky 6 жыл бұрын
Jane Lin yep. You do.
@AutoGamerZ_
@AutoGamerZ_ 6 жыл бұрын
+Dawn Baker Incorrect, he does not have such right. That is because a Bakery is a PUBLIC Accommodation (PUBLIC in this case, a serve for (all) people, PRIVATE, which is not possible for this kind of business, would mean under personal contract). Public Accommodation cannot deny for any reason that is not directly related to safety (Including of the business) or the breaking of laws related. - Specific groups protected from discrimination in this case are listed in most (Not all) states as well. In the state the bakery was in LGBT individuals where listed in said law. Conclusion: No, He does not have such legal right. Not in that state at the very least. There is simply nothing more to say then what you are saying isn't correct.
@mylifepostpain3705
@mylifepostpain3705 6 жыл бұрын
Dawn Baker he has others who worked for him so technically he could have asked one of those people to do the job for him and it would not have taken up any of his time or talent. Got any other stupid comments?
@rachelberrythegleequeen.3221
@rachelberrythegleequeen.3221 6 жыл бұрын
His bakery is public so that means he has to serve every one and not just people that he agrees with.
@charlesovercash8862
@charlesovercash8862 4 жыл бұрын
Just find another bakery. Don't cry and sue the man.
@gleelights9525
@gleelights9525 Жыл бұрын
Bizznisss
@Randomnoobi
@Randomnoobi 4 жыл бұрын
So...the baker said no and that made you guys tear up, get emotional and run to file a suit and tell on him? You see how soft this country is becoming?
@CommonSense4u
@CommonSense4u 6 жыл бұрын
This is crazy! Forcing someone to do something against their beliefs is wrong. These two men should be ashamed and made to pay the 40% loss back. Who cares if they cry...🙄
@MariaVargas-nd5qn
@MariaVargas-nd5qn 6 жыл бұрын
God bless all men that are brave like Jack.
@joseanzures5491
@joseanzures5491 6 жыл бұрын
Maria Vargas If god did exist he wouldn't really be a good.
@TheMMMBecky
@TheMMMBecky 6 жыл бұрын
Jose Anzures that's the weirdest comment I've read yet haha
@Exodus-sh5mq
@Exodus-sh5mq 6 жыл бұрын
Jose Anzures think you said your statement wrong buddy
@Exodus-sh5mq
@Exodus-sh5mq 6 жыл бұрын
Brad B. No that's not it at all bud.
@Exodus-sh5mq
@Exodus-sh5mq 6 жыл бұрын
no, the point is the couple came in and asked him to do a service he does not provide and instead of going to another bakery they tried to strong-arm him into giving them what they wanted this is a violation of freedom of speech. no one is entitled to your services since you are a private corporation you are allowed to serve who you want.
@alekstsarnaev
@alekstsarnaev 5 жыл бұрын
When he started to cry- uff.. my heart:(
@wolftitanreading5308
@wolftitanreading5308 4 жыл бұрын
yeap because we should feel bad for a bigot. Its such a shame.
@krishma15
@krishma15 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolftitanreading5308 stfu
@brandon_gf
@brandon_gf 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolftitanreading5308 🤡🤡🤡
@rumplestiltskin5036
@rumplestiltskin5036 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jack Phillips for taking a stand!
@PochoNieves
@PochoNieves 6 жыл бұрын
Nobody has a right to anybody's labor. Thats why you enter in a contract by agreement, there is a offer and acceptance. The couple had an offer and he didnt accept it... take your money somewhere else... done deal.
@katakisLives
@katakisLives 5 жыл бұрын
if you take that to its logical conclusion thats an argument to bring back segregation as well,
@dnomyarakunawik6743
@dnomyarakunawik6743 5 жыл бұрын
@@katakisLives Absolute nonsense.
@katakisLives
@katakisLives 5 жыл бұрын
You treat one person like a second class citizen where does it stop? your argument could be used to bar black people from restaurants and such as well! so it is you who speaks nonsense who completely lacks and kind of vision of the bigger picture! maybe you believe the races shouldn't mix for example. its all just excuses to justify bare faced bigotry
@dnomyarakunawik6743
@dnomyarakunawik6743 5 жыл бұрын
@@katakisLives this decision won't lead to a segregation style of society. Most people aren't bigoted. This ain't the 1950s.
@mysticstrikeforce5957
@mysticstrikeforce5957 5 жыл бұрын
I mean lots of store can say no to you if you are not able to stay in the guide lines of the store policy.
@conservativenellie5876
@conservativenellie5876 6 жыл бұрын
Ever watch Sienfeild? :) That soup guy refuses to sell his soup to anyone he doesn't like.
@TheMMMBecky
@TheMMMBecky 6 жыл бұрын
Conservative Nellie hahaha!
@Mega911Gamer
@Mega911Gamer 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but that was in the 90s when people didn't get butthurt over not getting their way.
@Claronium780
@Claronium780 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but he doesn't single out ONE specific group ONLY!
@amberslilrose3954
@amberslilrose3954 5 жыл бұрын
No soup for you!!!
@liemduong6729
@liemduong6729 5 жыл бұрын
@@MJGiebels That doesn't give them the right to force people of religion to do something they are against. They should at least be able to tolerate one another, but exerting force to do something is beyond boundaries.
@pyrochemists6309
@pyrochemists6309 2 жыл бұрын
Bible says to reject what is bad, so he was not discriminating in his correct refusal
@freedomcat
@freedomcat 6 жыл бұрын
He won on 6/5/2018
@bunnylady6758
@bunnylady6758 3 жыл бұрын
He respects you as a person but does not agree with your lifestyle. Why not do the same? Respect the guy as a person, find another baker.
@bunnylady6758
@bunnylady6758 2 жыл бұрын
@@kamusta3446 You ask for tolerance but cant give any. Every service provider has a right to refuse service. You dont believe in God, but in science I suppose. When there is no dichotomy.Well, biology will tell you whether you are male or female. But I suppose science is irrelevant as well.
@Aaron-rh7sz
@Aaron-rh7sz 6 жыл бұрын
Why can’t people just make their own cakes.
@wolftitanreading5308
@wolftitanreading5308 4 жыл бұрын
why can't people not be biggot's
@patriciabenavente5124
@patriciabenavente5124 Жыл бұрын
It's so ridiculous. If someone doesn't want to do your cake, go to another bakery. I'm from Spain, and really, we don't have this kind of problems. If someone doesn't want to do business with you, go to another place. It's so simple.
@taurahelms3068
@taurahelms3068 5 жыл бұрын
So they were tearing up and emotional? Why didn't they just shop around?
@tswoodsmen09
@tswoodsmen09 5 жыл бұрын
im going to order my wedding cake from him
@matthewkain453
@matthewkain453 6 жыл бұрын
Even someone who we could all agree is a bigot should have that right , even a admitted bigot . It’s his believe and his business.
@lizmcdonough5121
@lizmcdonough5121 6 жыл бұрын
This man has a right not to create anything that is against his religion.
@elisacastillo2362
@elisacastillo2362 6 жыл бұрын
He has a right to say no. Case closed. Go somewhere else.
@vreedlak7268
@vreedlak7268 6 жыл бұрын
Nope. His corporation is subject to anti-discrimination laws - like all other businesses open to the public.
@jaybrezz6164
@jaybrezz6164 5 жыл бұрын
Serve GOD first😊
@islay4ever798
@islay4ever798 6 жыл бұрын
Why are they acting like Jack is the only bakery on the planet? Here is an idea...FIND ANOTHER FREAKING BAKERY! It’s honestly not that hard. Why waste all your time trying to take this man’s business away? Focus on your marriage and forget about some little bakery that didn’t give you what you want, UGH. This whole situation is just so stupid!
@nicolasoke7421
@nicolasoke7421 4 жыл бұрын
Yea. While were at it, maybe those black people should find a dinery that will serve them. So entitled🙄
@hamidmehrdad5805
@hamidmehrdad5805 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasoke7421 you're comparing the civl rights act to this. These people could choose any other bakery that isn't christian. If they can choose to get married he can choose not to make a cake supporting that. Would you force a black person to do something for a kkk member or for a jew to make something for a nazi. I don't think so.
@jesst1306
@jesst1306 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasoke7421 BLM is a joke
@bruhreally9289
@bruhreally9289 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesst1306 your exsistance is a joke
@ahavens2463
@ahavens2463 Жыл бұрын
Preach! 😃👏
@camerrill
@camerrill 6 жыл бұрын
"The thin veneer of religion?" Not for this baker.
@mooneyes2781
@mooneyes2781 6 жыл бұрын
camerrill I heard that too was insulted as well
@mifnp8887
@mifnp8887 6 жыл бұрын
Corey Booker is a bigoted JERK. What a tool. New Jersey needs to vote him out of office asap.
@robertschrader
@robertschrader 6 жыл бұрын
Why did NBC hire Megyn Kelly anyway?
@vreedlak7268
@vreedlak7268 6 жыл бұрын
Those responsible should be out of job soon - along with Megyn Kelly The ratings are terrible. She sucks.
@sylvievicenza179
@sylvievicenza179 6 жыл бұрын
Robert, what do you mean by this question? If you do not like to watch her it is a excellent time for you to go walk outside. Please do not waist your precious time on this planet doing something you do not like. cheers
@rbeck3200tb40
@rbeck3200tb40 6 жыл бұрын
She probably blew one of the NBC executives
@cwj144
@cwj144 6 жыл бұрын
looks?
@Ir0nMa1d3n
@Ir0nMa1d3n 6 жыл бұрын
Blonde?
@Varga3344
@Varga3344 6 жыл бұрын
It’s his bakery and he has the right to refuse any order he doesn’t wanna make. Why all the drama about a cake. Go to another bakery and get as much cakes as you want. Attention seekers.
@loganmoody5552
@loganmoody5552 5 жыл бұрын
This snobby self-entitled couple should be sued for the destruction of this man's business.
@JKFitz
@JKFitz 4 жыл бұрын
He chose to make the decision to discriminate !
@gisg2243
@gisg2243 5 жыл бұрын
Grown men crying over a cake?!
@Nicole-qo8ko
@Nicole-qo8ko 4 жыл бұрын
Immatured boys is the proper term.
@kathysheehan1
@kathysheehan1 6 жыл бұрын
He has every right he is not racist...He has a belief...God. give me a break these other that made these stupid comment
@yashmallscaife-bey6047
@yashmallscaife-bey6047 6 жыл бұрын
as soon as they legalized this immoral behavior I saw this coming.
@ThompsonFlash9999
@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, religious bigotry should be illegalized, I agree
@KreSade01
@KreSade01 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing says I love you like forcing someone to perform a service for you that goes against their beliefs. Why don't they ask a Muslim baker to make them a wedding cake? If I was denied a service i would just go someplace else. It's a free market.
@lisan.5453
@lisan.5453 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to the couple that cried & got their feelings hurt. It's his business- he has the right to refuse service to anyone. Is this really necessary?? Over a cake......
@LennonTheBunny
@LennonTheBunny 6 жыл бұрын
It's also illegal to discriminate
@nirish25
@nirish25 6 жыл бұрын
You do NOT have the right to refuse to do business
@davidgaona8799
@davidgaona8799 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed that is ridiculous, someone trying to make a name for theirselves by being controversial
@Daleylife
@Daleylife 6 жыл бұрын
How would you feel if you went into a bakery and the baker said, "I'm sorry, but I don't bake cakes for women."
@SilverLakeify
@SilverLakeify 6 жыл бұрын
Daleylife we can all start doing that. I have a Mexican restaurant and a coffee shop. I'm Buddhist, and from now on refuse to serve Christian freaks! Maybe we should start registering everyone based on their religion to see who 'offends' us based on our beliefs and who we can refuse service to. Sounds great. 😎
@apracity7672
@apracity7672 3 жыл бұрын
makes me sick to my stomach that people even have a problem with him not making a cake to a non-marriage between two men
@nuttybar9
@nuttybar9 6 жыл бұрын
It's his bakery he has the right to choose who to bake for or not.
@matthewrhoads2194
@matthewrhoads2194 3 жыл бұрын
Where is Jack Phillips' cake store located? I wouldn't mind going there.👍
@chilcote1965
@chilcote1965 5 жыл бұрын
Good for you for standing by your beliefs!!!! The baker!!!!
@paullawrence3532
@paullawrence3532 4 жыл бұрын
I ain’t going to bake you a cake, it’s my shop end of conversation.
@ThompsonFlash9999
@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын
Ah, defending segregation, shocker
@richardromero2707
@richardromero2707 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with the baker 100%, that's his belief, you don't force anybody to do things
@knownwolf4212
@knownwolf4212 3 жыл бұрын
God bless him, what a kind hearted man. I love how he shared about his wife. People tend to think christians aren’t discriminated against or bullied for our identity in Christ. We get it all the time but we do not speak up on it as the world does because we recognize that the truth is foolishness to this world, that doesn’t mean we’re better than anyone else because we have the truth, we just know we are here on assignment to speak it to the world and our Lord told us that we’d be hated for it when we did speak up. So we usually take the punches and keep speaking the truth in love.
@Moonitot
@Moonitot 5 жыл бұрын
God bless him
@colayco
@colayco 6 жыл бұрын
It’s a lie that you should not judge others ! You are judging this guy too ! Look in the mirror ! There are times in life you have to stand up for stuff ! It looks like both sides of this are !
@benshenk8968
@benshenk8968 5 жыл бұрын
God Bless You Jack Phillips!
@ladyn7588
@ladyn7588 6 жыл бұрын
I think tolerance is like kindness. So how Is that possible that some people who positioned themselves as tolerant (kind) threatened to Jack?! Its just horrible! Awful double standards!
@TheMMMBecky
@TheMMMBecky 6 жыл бұрын
So sad. He can't just get another cake shop, but that couple could have easily gone to another cake shop.
@fidge2008
@fidge2008 6 жыл бұрын
Clearly you never experienced discrimination
@janelin6083
@janelin6083 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, and those black folks in Montgomery could have gone to another lunch counter... no, wait... that's 100% wrong, and you're just profoundly ignorant.
@TheMMMBecky
@TheMMMBecky 6 жыл бұрын
Jane Lin ugh! Please stop talking! The only reason black people couldn't "go to another lunch counter" is because it was against the law NOT to segregate by the same government you want to force this man into agreeing with you. Genius.
@TheMMMBecky
@TheMMMBecky 6 жыл бұрын
Frankie Drummond Thats a funny thing for a man to say to a woman, but even if I hadn't it wouldnt change the fact that what this couple is doing is wrong. They are ruining this man's life over a cake.
@youdagoob
@youdagoob 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Could've gone to a Muslim cake baker and harassed them.
@nooranazzal656
@nooranazzal656 6 жыл бұрын
"Omg it's very emotional, we wanted to cry, he doesn't want to bake our cake" Wth is this, how is this emotional, pull yourself together and man up.
@doobydoo854
@doobydoo854 6 жыл бұрын
He provides a service and has the right to refuse his services to anyone for any reason. Just like a bartender can refuse service to someone for any reason. But nowadays that bartender will be taken to court if that person is LGBTQ and feels like his rights were violated. It's disgusting. They don't want equal rights they want everyone to never say no to them because their feelings get hurt.
@loststar129
@loststar129 6 жыл бұрын
Kelly Villines! I think your comment is disgusting for being senseless; I really hope you have LGBTQ family member soon to come out or in the future, so you will learn what is to be discriminated or being treated as second-class citizen. And just then your opinion in the subject will change.
@AnaSantos-yl4sx
@AnaSantos-yl4sx 6 жыл бұрын
That's a harsh thing to say Shalon. I agree with Kelly. Just because we have different opinions and beliefs to YOU, doesn't mean you can belittle us. Some people choose to live a godly life. We are not here to please people. We should only please GOD and not offend him. Live your life but don't force people to agree with your lifestyle choices.
@loststar129
@loststar129 6 жыл бұрын
Ana Santos! "A bible written by prejudiced men (not God) hundreds of years ago, who also, by the way thought the world was flat."
@joypaark
@joypaark 6 жыл бұрын
Shalon, based on what? Why are so sure that the bible is written by prejudiced men? If the Bible is written by God, would you obey what's written on the Bible?
@wesmoore436
@wesmoore436 5 жыл бұрын
God bless Jack Phillips
@robertsetzer5819
@robertsetzer5819 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you Jack Phillip . Just advertise outside your store ,NO SATANIC CAKES MADE HERE
@Pandorians7Boxes
@Pandorians7Boxes 6 жыл бұрын
I have great disdain for the comparison of sexual orientation discrimination to racial discrimination. They are not the same at all. This business owner has the legal right to refuse service to anyone for whatever reason. I don't understand why the couple can't just patron another bakery. No one is trying to force them to marry women.
@janelin6083
@janelin6083 6 жыл бұрын
"This business owner has the legal right to refuse service to anyone for whatever reason" NO HE DOESN"T. That's not a "legal right" it's a $2 plastic sign. Posting a BEWARE OF DOG sign doesn't make your chihuahua into a doberman. my god, conservatives have gone completely round the bend...
@Pandorians7Boxes
@Pandorians7Boxes 6 жыл бұрын
Jane Lin, lol. I am not conservative or liberal. It is a legal right. You really should educate yourself of US general and business law. Your ignorance is showing.
@janelin6083
@janelin6083 6 жыл бұрын
lol, being as stupid as a conservative, while not being a conservative, is not an accomplishment. It is NOT a legal right. It's a piece of plastic. NO ONE has the right to refuse service to "anyone" for any reason. Because: The Constitution.
@Pandorians7Boxes
@Pandorians7Boxes 6 жыл бұрын
Jane Lin, lol. More of that illogical temperament. Hope you educate yourself. Good day, madam.
@janelin6083
@janelin6083 6 жыл бұрын
Read and learn, little boy: Do Restaurants Have the Unrestricted Right to Refuse Service? No. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 explicitly prohibits restaurants from refusing service to patrons on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin. In addition, most courts don’t allow restaurants to refuse service to patrons based on extremely arbitrary conditions. For example, a person likely can’t be refused service due to having a lazy eye. www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/restaurants-right-to-refuse-service.html
@mittao86
@mittao86 5 жыл бұрын
Good for him, standing for what you believe is the only thing we have left and nobody cant take it away from it.
@carenwebb9044
@carenwebb9044 6 жыл бұрын
He shouldn't be forced to make a cake
@jimmywinkler90
@jimmywinkler90 6 жыл бұрын
not forced...he is providing a service and receiving money. This is such a touchy subject.
@FleurPillager
@FleurPillager 6 жыл бұрын
He should and does sell generic cakes to everyone. He shouldn't have to create art or write a message on a cake that doesn't gel with his religious beliefs.
@kristinetank3959
@kristinetank3959 6 жыл бұрын
Cameron just as you have the right to accept homosexuality.....people have the right to not agree with it.
@1991Meka
@1991Meka 6 жыл бұрын
Fleur Bandito Perfect sense! He should be forced to make it because he has a business and can't discriminate against people but I think he should have the tight to be able to say he doesnt want to say "congrats in getting married James and John" that part should be his right
@TheMMMBecky
@TheMMMBecky 6 жыл бұрын
shamika slater asking the government to force people to do thinks they don't believe in is dangerous ground. The free market takes care of itself. If you don't sell a cake you don't get the money.
@randomnessa
@randomnessa 6 жыл бұрын
Nice step may GOD bless your heart.
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