'The View' Exclusive with Jack Phillips, Owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop

Jack Phillips and Kristen Waggoner appeared on The View on June 20, 2017 were they discussed the Masterpiece Cakeshop case.

[@lisahertel2415]

These women are clueless. They keep missing his point.

[@bubbercakes528]

The point is that he cannot sensibly answer their questions. He cannot use religion as a lawful excuse to refuse service because we have freedom of religion in the U.S. That means that the gay couples beliefs are just as sacred as his.

[@MySweetAriane]

I think you are clueless and brainwashed. To let a book tell you how to think and what to believe in

[@jalissaarchuleta6736]

It's because they're ignoring it.

[@Shockkings0714]

@@MySweetAriane cry more

[@Cutepup4youplayz]

Trye

[@kevinodom2918]

He went on the view? Dude has balls.

[@rc7618]

I love how calm he is .... didn’t raise his voice. I bet the girls were hoping he’d deliver a little more drama .... they didn’t have much to go on .... they argued with themselves more than they did with him .... good job man !!

[@Abra_2109]

I love you brother in Christ, Jack Phillips. You did the right thing. God bless you.

[@victortaylor7737]

Yes Praise God! You love the person but NOT the sin.the enemy has the media try to twist words, but you CANT twist God's Truth! These people just could've simply went somewhere else, but Jack was still vindicated.he stood his ground, & won! Almighty God gets the glory!!

[@Abra_2109]

@Drake Grey why does the truth hurts you and your people so much? Is the name Jesus Christ tormenting you? Repent of your sins NOW! Belief in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

[@mylifepostpain3705]

Victor Taylor You can’t love the person. I respect your right to your religious views but don’t lie and say you love the person but not the fact that they are gay (please note I do not believe in sin) because being gay is a part of them and who they are. What you really love is the idea of who/what you think they should be, but that’s not loving someone. Loving someone is accepting them regardless of your own personal convictions and realising that they have their own moral standards that may not be completely in line with yours and accepting and loving them anyway.

[@Read..Matthew-11..28]

@@eliopalombi that's disqusting

[@Read..Matthew-11..28]

@Drake Grey that's disqusting get a life.

[@Decomposer-rl3bw]

Owner absolutely, morally, correct to refuse those pretend couples.

[@binny4262]

Why are these women so rude in this interview?

[@mylifepostpain3705]

binny 818 They aren’t rude at all. They are just asking him obvious questions which he clearly was not sufficiently equipped to answer.

[@bettyvarghese9561]

They should read bible correctly and refer to Sodom and Gomarah...hope spelling is correct!😆

[@fishncapt26]

Binny where have u been, they've been rude to slandered mocked ridiculed anyone Christian or right leaning

[@stumpDD978]

Binny because they’re harpys

[@jamesbraun9842]

They don't understand people who are different

[@esigolda]

Jesus won’t have baked the cake, by refusing to bake the cake he didn’t say he hated them!

[@urkindacyoot47]

Jesus hung out with sinners of all types. Yes he would have.

[@jalissaarchuleta6736]

@@urkindacyoot47 he most likely wouldn't have. People like to think of jesus in their own way without really reading the full context of what he taught. Jesus didnt teach to just be nice to people. He taught that people should turn away from the lifestyle that the bible deems as sinful, and that will cause people to be restricted from entering heaven. For example, mary magdalene committed adultery. Jesus did not just "hang out" with her and support whatever she was doing, he taught her to leave her adulterous ways and walk a ritious path. He did the same with all of his disciples. Jesus would not do anything to encourage someone to live a lifestyle that will cause them to be rejected from entering heaven. The bible states that homosexuals and sexual immoral cannot enter heaven, so therefore, he most likely would've did the same as this man did here. Jesus taught that real "love" is make every effort to guide a soul to the kingdom of heaven by helping them repent. Therefore, Jesus most likely would not have made a cake or (definitely wouldn't have participated) for a ceremony that was made for the purpose of celebrating a lifestyle that will lead souls to hell instead of heaven. Jesus did not go around telling thieves and prostitutes that he supports them and they should just go on being themselves. He taught them to change themselves to resemble God's image. It's understandable why many think of jesus as some all supporting man, but that is because many churches give their own idealistic description of who they think he was. Also people just read or have common knowledge of certain quotes of his or actions, and pick and choose why they want to like him, but dont grasp the full context of what he taught. There are incidences in the bible where it even would seem like jesus was being straight up mean, or even racist, but it was for a certain important lesson to his disciples. In other words, people preach their own version of jesus, not the jesus that is described in full contact of the bible.

[@Emily-zx5qs]

@@urkindacyoot47 He would invite them for dinner and He would love them and He would tell them to end their sinful ways.

[@annajones6805]

@@urkindacyoot47 Yes, but hanging out with them doesn't mean celebrating their sins which is exactly what this wedding cake is about. Jesus always confronted sinners about their sins when He hung out with them. When will we read the Bible to read what Jesus was actually like rather than learning about Him from twisted stories we hear on the Internet?

[@michaal105]

​​@@urkindacyoot47 He hung out with sinners, but he didn't approve of their sin. In fact He actually expressly told them to repent. Read the Gospels and see who Jesus was and is.

[@will1905]

The bible says not to judge hypocritically but to judge righteously in other words don’t judge someone for something you’re also doing these woman don’t know anything.

[@ericday4505]

Thank you William, whenever someone says the bible teaches not to judge, I immediately scream where does it say that? It says not to judge hypocritically. I just want to scream.

[@chrisgagnon5768]

Boom was literally just thinking this as she said that and I scroll down and see these comments lol

[@ebonypegasus9864]

You are correct, it's "do not judge lest you be judged yourself" in other words... don't judge others for what you yourself are also doing wrong" the "do not judge" is always taken way out of context. Everyone judges every day. The gay couple are judging the baker, these women are judging the baker, We in the comments section are judging each other. it's human nature to weigh up and compare and analyise and make decisions on every situation. We all judge.

[@stephe1329]

When the church condones sin, it's no longer faith based, it's worldly flesh based.

[@TheMrhycannon]

Joy, when did Jesus make you his spokesperson.?

[@iep4029]

@@johnhenry457 Are you implying that all Christians are mentally ill?

[@mylifepostpain3705]

You can’t make anyone your spokesperson if you don’t exist

[@SrChalice]

The last person Jesus wold be communicating with is a Zionists JEW. SO Joy can go kick rocks.

[@mylifepostpain3705]

TJ Johnson I must don’t know? Mate, clearly you don’t know English very well.

[@saigudi7396]

John Henry lol

[@blondicannuk42]

they just want some dirt to throw at him and he wasn't giving anything lol

[@riku1neo]

“Go and sin no more.” Or “Go and enjoy your sinful habits.” Which was said?

[@mylifepostpain3705]

riku1neo neither because god doesn’t exist. If he exists in your life then great. But he doesn’t exist in mine and you have to respect that

[@atheistsrnumber1]

@@mylifepostpain3705 while I agree god doesn't exist, you do see the hypocrisy in your statement right?

[@mylifepostpain3705]

atheistsrnumber1 no hypocrisy at all. We all have to treat eachother equally. God doesn’t exist but I would still serve Christians equally and I would still serve them a wedding cake even though it’s not inline with my beliefs because it’s wrong to discriminate. All I ask is that Christians start serving lgbtq people equally as well.

[@amygwenn4220]

@@mylifepostpain3705 The cake artist may choose to create or not create whatever he decides ;you seem to misunderstand the very crux of the matter.He *never* refused to serve them,he refused to create *art* for their wedding.They were welcome to all else he had and he'd gladly sell whatever they wished,just not create art. My sig other is a photographer and following your line of thought, he would be *forced* to use his artistry to take photos for a gay wedding,which *violates* his 1st amendment rights, which are: Congress is prohibited from making any law respecting an establishment of religion *including atheism/satanism*, impeding the free exercise of religion and abridging the freedom of speech et al. Forcing to make someone do anything against their religion's clearly covered here,for example If you were *forced* to pray out loud or create art for christian beliefs with Jesus in it, etc. Then "your' rights would be violated. One thing not mentioned is the *type* of service rendered, for example if you called a christian plumber and he refused to fix a gay couples' sink, then that *would* be discrimination as everyone gets the same service and that goes for hotels, restaurants,heating/cooling work, exterminators, etc. The *reason* this case is a huge issue is because it's *not* about mere service, it's about the government *forcing* someone to use their artistic ability,ie create art that goes against everything they hold dear and if he can be forced, then so could I, you, or anyone else. Which brings me to the next point, considering how many bakers are there,my hubby is from Denver, why did these men not go to another baker as most couples do(most don't settle on the first choice esp if there's an issue or just don't like them for no reason at all),perhaps a gay baker as they advertize or one of those, "we draw *anything* folks" who customize anything for the right price? And I had a question, do you feel the same about say a Muslim baker? Would you tell the strict Muslim baker he *must* create an artistic cake for a gay wedding?I find it odd that only christian beliefs,not Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, etc, etc were singled out. If it's such an issue why not go to the Muslim, Catholic, Greek Orthodox, and Jewish bakeries also and if they have the same policy, sue them all? I'm very curious as to the answers since we are talking bias of any kind and those questions include your non-belief,which actually *is* a belief. Thanks much

[@mylifepostpain3705]

Amy Gwenn If he didn’t refuse to serve them then how come when asked he still wouldn’t create any pre made wedding cakes which he would be happier to sell to gay people?

[@riekiebruitenbach4632]

Well, moving on two years and he won 🎉 So happy for him. It seems his business are actually improved. He was blessed

[@martinblake2278]

Wow. The hypocrisy of these women. The one who is discriminating here are them girls and not this poor man.

[@mylifepostpain3705]

Doctor Doom He denied to treat them equally. He is not in any way a victim. And if he is? Well.... it’s his own doing.

[@will1905]

London Girl he didn’t deny serving them anything else but didn’t do same sex wedding cake. It’s in the constitution that we have the freedom to practice our religion.

[@mylifepostpain3705]

William Delgadillo Freedom to practise your religion yes, freedom to use your religious beliefs as a shit excuse to discriminate no

[@mariemorino8796]

I am proud of you Jack. I feel like these people are judging Jack.

[@arre314]

Yeah, he's homophobic. Of course i do.

[@MySweetAriane]

And he is judging others. The irony

[@hilalabosway5073]

@@arre314 do you suppprt incest?

[@arre314]

@@hilalabosway5073 lmao, no

[@hilalabosway5073]

@@arre314 then you must be judged for being bigot and incestphobe. You are a hater and a judgemental person.

[@esigolda]

God has not changed! No ma’am...same yesterday, today and forever!

[@andekay]

Be careful not to think more highly of yourselves than you ought to ladies. You are in danger of becoming guilty of the very things you are accusing this man of: Intolerance, prejudice, and not loving others. Just because you are hosts on a National TV program does not make you culturally superior. This discussion is not about discrimination. Contrarily, it's about respect. It's about allowing people equal right to hold to one's own beliefs and not have their mind highjacked for the purpose of another's will. You throw in the verb "Love" as an effort to shame your guest. "Love" is not defined as "Caving To What Others Want Us To Do." Every person has the right to protect their conscience. If somebody were to come to me and request I "design "a personalized gift package specifically to celebrate their cause and that cause were say, dog fighting, or a pornographic movie, or pedophilia, for instance, these are lifestyle interests I could not support. Consequently, I should have the right to politely decline. I cannot devote my mind or heart to something that is against my very conscience. And I have the right to respectfully make that known. If you want to boil this down to loving somebody versus not loving somebody, than the people who are forcing somebody to do something against their very conscience, they are the ones who are not acting in love by forcing their will on others! This isn't about loving or not loving another person. This is about having the freedom to love others while retaining the freedom to live by one's conscience--just as you want the freedom to do so. Furthermore, there are other people, apparently, who it would not cross a moral barrier for them to provide any service someone wants. So they can go to them. That's the essence of mutual tolerance and love. The other is purely authoritarianism. We must be free to live according to our God given conscience. R.C. Sproul ["The conscience is a delicate instrument that must be respected. One who seeks to influence the consciences of others carries a heavy responsibility to maintain the integrity of the other person’s own personality as crafted by God. When we impose false guilt on others, we paralyze our neighbors, binding them in chains where God has left them free. When we urge false innocence, we contribute to their delinquency, exposing them to the judgment of God." R.C. Sproul] "One person believes he should eat only vegetables. Another person believes he may eat meat... Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind..." Romans 14:1-23 Romans 14:23 “Whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.” "So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin." James 4:17 "Love" does not threaten to strip someone of their livelihood by demanding from others that which violates the very core of their innate values. Even moreso, it does not strong arm others into acceptance, embracing, or celebrating any one person's lifestyle through threats, blackmail, or intimidation. Only a shallow and weak character ascribes to this as their definition of love. Therefore, he himself knows not what the true definition of God's Love truly is.

[@kristinamullen4066]

Wow! Very well stated.I'm going to reread this many times.Thank you!💝

[@Purnendu1984]

All the Best Jack Phillips. Take care and stay safe always

[@99cseni]

The very thing they are advocating for will one day be used against them

[@atheistsrnumber1]

@jfsfrnd funny since Colorado already said it was ok to do that before the ruling

[@vitaliykoval3526]

And what exactly they are they advocating for?

[@HAJ4All]

You can go to jail for not serving same sex desserts but little kids are being harassed/bullied in school and sometimes taking their lives and there are no repercussions for the perpetrators or the schools. Wow, really people. This is insane and sad that these people are misinterpreting the holy scriptures.

[@nikayeptho11]

Coolest man I have ever seen. God is with you and you owned them. Amen. If God is for us who can be against us. Thank God, at least, these ladies for the sake of this session learned some bible verses.

[@robertgenn3086]

Good for Jack!

[@stevebennet6018]

As a gay man this is a tough issue for me. My gut reaction is that it's his bakery, he has the right to deny service to whoever.

[@finaoo1167]

Agreed. And he actually did not deny them service. He only declined to create a custom cake for their wedding.

[@reaganbollinger9359]

Look at these women belittling this poor old Christian man. You can tell how closed minded they are towards him, it truly is a shame. I still don’t understand why these two men couldn’t go to another place to find their wedding cake, but instead it seems that they chose to target this man aside from just saying okay and moving on with their lives. I feel bad for this man and hope things go well for him and his family. I’m sure both sides had good intentions and it should have never gone this far. I hope I didn’t offend anyone, just wanted to state my opinion on the matter. Hope anyone reading this can understand where I’m coming from even if you agree or not.

[@noahpride4011]

Idk if this is true, but i guess the couple went to bakeries that would make them a cake. But were looking for someone to not make them a cake.

[@derekthompson5731]

The logic of these women is deplorable and is a reminder of how unintellectual our generation is... yeah, we have instant information everywhere on our phones. But the ability to think and reason well is deplorably low... Jesus hanging out with sinners is clearly explained in the text of the New Testament itself. "I came to seek and save the LOST." THAT's why he's hanging out with the "sinners" and not with the Pharisees. And wherever Jesus hangs out (e.g. his compassion for the woman caught in adultery), his final message is ALWAYS: "Go and sin no more". And that's the effect that He always had. He goes to the house of the tax collector, and what happens? After an afternoon spent with Jesus, (and the Pharisees complaining: "he [has] gone to be guest with a man that is a sinner") the tax collector stands up and announces: "I will give half my belongings to the poor, and if I have cheated anyone, I will pay back four times as much." But THAT part (the "repentance" part) is always left out in favor of vapid pronouncements over "what would Jesus do". Oh, and Joy Behar is a witch. And dumb. And an utter disgrace to the people to whom The Good Book was given.

[@derekthompson5731]

@@Dr_JSH I'd say Jesus's relationship with the Pharisees is more complex than is usually understood. Jesus, in all likelihood, either was a Pharisee himself or closely aligned with them theologically. This is what many scholars today would say. Yes, he levels his harshest criticism at them (mostly "you lack compassion"), but it's probably a case of being most critical of those who are closest to you (and thus should know better)(e.g. I expect more of my kids than I expect of other people's kids). The Pharisees, for their part, are always following him around because they think he's a viable candidate for Messiah. If he were an obvious sinner, they wouldn't have bothered. But they're "vetting" his candidacy. And finding a lot of nitpicky things they think a real "Messiah" should do better. But it's worth noting that the Pharisees often come to the apostles aid in the book of Acts. It's the Sadducees and Temple authorities (aligned with Rome) that are the real nasties.

[@Tremulousnut]

It’s The View, they have an agenda.

[@izzygee2216]

Well said sir.

[@Korok96]

I just dont see why this had to be taken to the supreme court gay people are so dramatic. He said he doesnt want to make the cake, they can say okay and then go to a business that does.

[@mylifepostpain3705]

austin mattingly So gay people should just accept people’s intolerant opinions? Fuck that, I fight for what I believe is right and this guy is 100% in the wrong.

[@mylifepostpain3705]

jfsfrnd Took it all the way to the Supreme Court just because he wants his bigoted homophobic views to be respected. I’m sorry, I will never respect a view point that seeks to discriminate against others.

[@mylifepostpain3705]

jfsfrnd whose jacks or the couples?

[@barbarariley3488]

@@mylifepostpain3705 Oh no people have a right to their religious beliefs. Gays are trying to force everyone to accept their lifestyle.well we won't . To us its immoral.

[@mylifepostpain3705]

Barbara Riley And that is why your religion is so evil.

[@michaelduchene59]

I’m a gay man! And I am actually on Jacks side tbh. Now I believe it’s horrible and wrong for us gays or others to be discriminated upon or refused service and stuff like that. But Jack honestly isn’t doing all of that. He accepts gays into his business and serves them, he even offered to let the gay men have anything else in his store. He even felt bad for having to tell them no and you can totally tell that was true! But the thing is that he is religious and he has his views and beliefs based on his religion, but he knows it’s wrong to discriminate like that and seems to love everyone and be incredibly loving of a man. It’s because he only has to accept those he may not agree with on their own personal beliefs. He just has to accept and treat them like the normal people they are. It’s not like they have to kiss or be with the same sex themselves, so why can’t they do that if they truly aren’t hateful people? Well Accepting in gays and treating them like their normal as loving them, is different then being forced to actually participate in being a part of it!!! Jack making the cake for the wedding which isn’t just a cake but his art which art is anything that you put your talent, skill, hard work, love, and blood into of coarse, so him making this cake of art for a gay wedding which he accepts completely but now has to be apart of it I feel is wrong truly. But I know.... this can open doors to more discrimination. Things need to be handled better. Churches being forced to marry gay marriages is wrong I completely understand that as well for the same reason, but to refuse service to gays in a public business where gays are legal is totally wrong and if it’s that big a deal then they shouldn’t do business for the public. That stupid bitch who refused the marriage certificates to gays when it was legal is disgusting!!!!.

[@pjpugapillarfan2750]

Whatever if your Gay your living in SIN. BIBLE SAYS "FORNICATION IS THE ONLY SIN THAT OCCURS INSIDE THE BODY. SO WHEN A MAN FORNACATES HE SINS AGAINST HIS OWN BODY"

[@michaelduchene59]

@@pjpugapillarfan2750 So you never been divorced, had premarital sex, ate shellfish, living in sin with a significant other, etc….??? Yeah…. I doubt that!!!! Don’t be a hypocrite!!!!! What makes our Sins (Born being gay) any different then the Sins that you’ve yourself also participated in??? A sin is still a sin! Most people like you tend to be huge ass hypocrites and a literal JOKE & FRAUD! Someone who is truly religious and not at all a hypocrite would not believe that being gay is a Sin, but it’s the actual “Acting Out” on those physical gay desires that is the actual Sin. You can’t help it if you are attracted to the same sex they believe, they believe that there’s a good reason why some people are attracted to the same sex and those reasons could possibly be to prove strong devotion towards god by living a complete celibate life (such as possibly become a priest), or by showing proof to doubters that truly with dedication towards enough constant Prayers & Devotions that a person who may at one time had found themselves being attracted to the same sex (gay) could truly possibly get completely healed and then become 100% straight! So to say “If you’re gay your living in sin” is a wrong statement! Just because someones gay doesn’t mean they’ve ever been physical in any inappropriate sort of way with the same sex before, or even that they’d ever would! And lastly even when being around people who are gay who do actually live that sort of lifestyle, someone who is truly religious wouldn’t condemn any of them for being gay but ignore and justify every other sin that they had also done themselves! Instead they’d be kind to those who are gay and try to relate to them by admitting and acknowledging their very own past actions of sins, and show how they have asked for forgiveness and repented for those actions. Be a role model!

[@denverlilly3669]

@@pjpugapillarfan2750 And people wonder why I question religion.

[@TANTHEMANFILMS]

props to Jack Phillips for being a real businessman standing with his values hes very professional! #libertarian #freedom #logic !

[@han1218]

"Do you ask a straight couple if they had a child out of wedlock or participated in premarital sex?" The point these people are not getting is that, it's not about serving "sinners", because we're all sinners. It's about not promoting sin. So, he wouldn't sell a cake that promotes / celebrates the idea of premarital sex in the message written on it. Imagine a cake with "Congratulations for losing your virginity to a total stranger!", or "Congratulations on your first abortion!" written on it.

[@bettyvarghese9561]

They forgot to read about Sodom and Gomarrah

[@Cutepup4youplayz]

I don't think they ever read the bible

[@blackopsboys929]

They are constantly badgering him And try ing to undermine his faith

[@themadlad8540]

Joy is such a witch

[@The7mikalo]

"faith has evolved" 🤣😂🤣 the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

[@Cutepup4youplayz]

How

[@abhilashpaul9237]

Amen. Huge respects to Jack.

[@danielukiri1428]

These interviewers really don’t know anything. Jesus was perfect. He loved the sinner but still condemned SIN. This is our lord who scattered a temple because they were selling inside( the people did not honor the temple) You are going to tell me he will bake the cake..... I doubt that

[@pyrochemists6309]

He was unquestionably right to reserve his services for the only good couples ever, which are exclusively straight adults.

[@NeoSoulXO]

Look how they are bombarding him with these ridiculous questions. Its the "SO YOU'RE SAYING" all over again. 😂😂😂

[@Evangelist-Harold]

“My brother is in a gay marriage and my church is fine with it”. What!!!!!!!!!!! New Age Christianity Kills!!!

[@howey935]

The man has the right to refuse his services to anybody he wants.

[@irenelicup5950]

I agree,besides everyone has the right to say no.

[@relsba]

If these men had come in to order a birthday cake I don’t think he would have declined.

[@photofather1]

Jesus would of NOT made the Cake dont forget sodium and gamora

[@MichaelKing-tp6le]

Sodium

[@raynekimi2755]

The two evil cities destroyed by fire,Sodom and Gomorrah. Sodom named so because of sodomy.

[@rustinmckee9321]

Homophobic f..ks

[@bubbercakes528]

Yeah, in Sodom and Gomorrah lot asks the men to rape his virgin daughters before they rape the angels. Shows how a “good” christian thinks. Christians always just pick and choose which sins they will defend. We do not discriminate when someone is born black or white, so how can we discriminate when someone is born gay or straight?

[@Gabriellaella23]

@@bubbercakes528 The Bible has nothing against biracial children or interracial marriage. Look up where Moses' wife was from. and he is not the only couple in the Bible like that. The Bible says nothing about racism being holy.

[@Carl007Jr]

Jack is a good man.

[@royconn2006]

no wonder this show is down hill, crap

[@RMXAD5]

Sarah, those churches that say it's ok, are not teaching the bible.

[@saklee1777]

i didnt even believe her when she said those churches had gay weddings.

[@RMXAD5]

@@saklee1777 Yes, many churches are accepting. But that is not Bible teachings.

[@brucecampbell6698]

These same people are all ok with Big Tech censorship!

[@yesenia3816]

They accuse him of judgment while they sit there judging him. Hypocrisy, anyone?

[@BryantHarris251-518]

Finally someone who clearly understands Matthew 7:1-6

[@chrisgagnon5768]

YUP

[@Ltlbrthr12]

This is actually a HUGE ruling. This story shines the light on how Liberals think. That you have to accept them or you are going to be sorry. The Supreme Court said that the Colorado Court acted hostile towards the baker. The Colorado Court acted with a bias towards the baker (hard to comprehend the Colorado Court had to be reprimanded like this). The gay couple could have been adult and realistic about it and just gone to another baker, BUT NO!!! They had to act hostile and sue the baker, and all the way to the Supreme Court... Such a vindictive act. The gay couple was so offended that they were going to make this simple baker "pay" for not accepting them for being gay that they decided to punish the baker for essentially having his own counter beliefs. This gay couple didn't care if the baker was offended. The Supreme Court stated that the gay couple needs to be tolerant of the bakers views and opinions and his religious beliefs as well. That tolerance is a two way street, Kapish??!!! The gay couple expected and demanded their opinions and beliefs to be accepted, respected, and tolerated yet they would not accept, respect, and tolerate the bakers religious beliefs. This is why people can't and don't want to get along with those with such extreme beliefs and behavior. Everyone needs to tolerate others even if the other person is a jerk, nasty, or wrong. True adults don't act so poorly which shows you, those that do, are not adult regardless of their age.

[@user-si2zc9ei5k]

"Those who were blind can now see." When a man knows Jesus Christ, & Jesus knows him, he is defended and guided by God. His path is clear and arguments made against him (even if they sorta sound Biblical) will NOT succeed. God is trustworthy. (Even the Devil knows that.)

[@sarahmurlless5048]

The View is horrible! I didn’t realize how bad they were

[@MasterWooten]

The funny thing is, Jack would have actually sold that couple a PLAIN WEDDING CAKE. Then they would have been free to go to another baker and get whatever they wanted put on the cake. Jack didn't refuse service he refused to perform a specific custom service. The REAL issue here was that those people tried to force him to create something for him which is not just anti-freedom but insane!

[@onelife2live972]

Okay Joy... you're a subject matter on Jesus. Seriously, these women need to get over the cake! This Baker is well within his rights, and should be applauded and not scorned.

[@lBugslBunny]

They wouldn’t like it if somebody goes against the freedom of choosing their sexual orientation. Why do they think it’s okay to change his faith and religious believes? Go to a different store for crying out loud. I’m not a homophobic nor a Christian. I just don’t like the idea of them forcing him to accept what they are! Just leave him alone and move on. The world don’t alway go around your way.

[@michaelduchene59]

Totally agree with you. I’m a gay homosexual myself who is so happy and fights for gay marriage and rights too! But I do feel bad for this guy cuz he definitely seems to be someone with religious views that he tries to live and follow by and yet he accepts gays and everyone regardless of their preference because he actually is a good man who knows that he may have his religion and views but he loves everyone by who they are and the way they are with other people in society and himself. But that’s him being good and accepting of everyone, because he knows that he can accept and love and not participate himself in the actual act they feel is wrong spiritually. I’m sorry but him being forced to paint and use his own personal created art to be used in something that is an obvious support and participation in something he feels wrong about is not right either. That being said those gays did have a right to feel discriminated by it and did have a good reason to bring it up and cause the attention. But now things need to be taught from the lesson. Ya Gays have to be accepted and served and helped wherever its legal and to those who can’t assist those based off their religious beliefs needs to have other staff to do what they can’t without making anyone feel discriminated upon. Simple. But he i feel should be given a pass for the teaching of the lesson

[@HEISRISEN7777]

Jesus would of not made the cake

[@barbarariley3488]

@jfsfrnd No Jesus does not condone sin. The Bible says God does not cause people to sin. He is no.part of sin. If they metnJesus they probably would have been set free of their sin.

[@yob1592]

jfsfrnd yeah and some religions behead ppl... according to your thinking, you don't have a basis to say they are wrong.

[@barbarariley3488]

@jfsfrnd You are free to follow you our religion did I.say to.follow mine ? No.I did not. However what.you mean is for me to.shut.up.and not even talk about my.faith. Well the last I checked I live in a free country where there is freedom of speech and religion. Do I threaten you to convert ? No. So don't try to silent me because it just doesn't suit you. Believe what you want.

[@koudousmoutairou6074]

The whole panel should just shut their trap. They know nothing of what they're talking about.

[@lorderik237]

Fun fact: That gay couple drove 120 miles to get to this one bakery. In doing so, they drove past 73 other bakeries, including 6 owned by Muslims just to get to the one owned by Christians.

[@aaroncovert5497]

3:00 Jesus stopped the stoning of a woman and because all are sinners, but he saved her and told her go on and sin no more. As Chrsitians we should've judge, but also not support people in their sin. Also I dont believe Jesus Christ wouldve made the cake. He never supported people in their sin. He loved the tax collectors and all these people, BUTA He didnt give into their sin. He said turn from your selfish ways, pick up your cross and follow Jesus.

[@sharonb.7867]

Jack you and your family have been on my heart and in my prayers!!! I hold strongly to the same convictions as you and your family!! I believe God instituted marriage between as man and woman! I have run a business for 25 years and we have NOT celebrated Halloween! I do not understand how people can not see you are a man of BIBLICAL BELIEF AND CONVICTION!! Why don't Christians have the right to stand by the convictions we hold dear? It seems there is only "tolerance " when and if it fits the LGBTQ COMMUNITY!?!?

[@richmedina3852]

This show “The View” is one of the most cancerous shows I have ever laid eyes on. Also, This world is crumbling under the pressure of attempting to make everyone think the same & trash our individuality. “George Orwell 1984” here we come

[@christianjilwan8817]

The debate is not even slightly about denying service to those who he believes are in sin, it’s about the fact that he is being forced to celebrate an event using his art, which is against his core beliefs. His art is the same as his speech. If he is forced to make art for any reason whatsoever, he is denied his right to free speech. Simple

[@brendamaciel1173]

He's not discriminating!!! Is about he's values and beliefs. He said he welcome them anytime but not bake a cake for their wedding because for him is something very special and spiritual. How you guys know that Jesus will bake the cake? Did in he destroyed this world because man sleeping with man, woman with woman and insest? Why people trying to force others to believe that it is okay to be gay? Is not okay!! I talk to them I don't disrespect them in any way, but they do disrespect that I don't agree with it. They can do whatever they want to but don't try to make me love or agree with you. Jack have the right to believe what he's doing is right, just the same way they have the right to believe that been gay is right.

[@BeginAgainMC]

He ssaid, I STILL DON"T THINK JESUS would have made the cake. I screeeeeeamed in laughter.

[@finaoo1167]

This debate should not be about gay weddings. It should be about whether a business owner should be forced to accept a project that he does not want to accept. Don't confuse the issue by claiming that he wouldn't serve them, because that's clearly untrue. He was happy to sell them anything in the store. They were asking him to create a specific cake, and he declined to do so. It doesn't matter if it's a gay wedding theme, or a swastika, or a "BLM" or "MAGA" message. He should not be forced to create a product at the whim of any customer.

[@denisenoe7746]

It was about creating and decorating for that specific event. He won't create and decorate a Halloween cake.

[@cunard61]

The lawyer Kristen Waggoner's claim that slippery slope scenario doesn't exist was actually refuted by Justice Souter during oral arguments. He said he doesn't see a way where an exemption could be made for the baker, but then refuse the next person who comes to the court requesting an exemption, also on religious grounds, to be able to discriminate based on race or religion of a customer. It would set anti-discrimination laws back more than 50 years.

[@mylifepostpain3705]

cunard61 of course you are right but Christians don’t like the truth if it doesn’t inflate their ego

[@chereejohnson2400]

@@mylifepostpain3705 finally, you voiced your true position of rebellion! As I thought, you are against my HEAVENLY FATHER. Your choice, but you do understand that based on your argument/standard of belief, you could be forced to somehow voice/write a statement that would give the impression that you believe in my HEAVENLY FATHER. Think about that.

[@mylifepostpain3705]

Cheree Johnson Nobody can force me to admit that I believe in anything. However I would never refuse a product in my shop to someone just because they are Christian and their beliefs go against my own. The guy was immoral and wrong to do that.

[@kenworthspy545]

Man the hamster wheel is spinning so hard with these wammans.

[@tesemaermias6540]

They basically called jack to the view to destroy his faith in Christ. God bless you jack always stand up for the truth. As the Scriptures said “ the truth will set you free”

[@cooper8318]

Good for this guy, I cant stand "The View"

[@tonyadaughtry8624]

John good for you, you can't really discuss with people who are not believers. Stay hold to the word.

[@royrogers3404]

" These lovely guys" . Therein lies the problem. Some of us don't find anything"lovely " about the thought of sodomy. Last time I checked, we're still entitled as Americans, to hold opinions.

[@mosesjay8917]

How can u say something 10000 times and still people just wont hear it

[@donnatate6327]

Hell i wouldn't want to eat ANYTHING prepared by someone that was forced to cook for me.😰

[@chereejohnson2400]

Bazoonga!!!! When your so caught up on getting what you want you tend to lose sight of the possible consequences!!!

[@chereejohnson2400]

You're/you are!

[@MeanMaryJean99]

One, he’s on the wrong program! I’m glad he won. I’m sick of the 2 percent gay community......

[@joedartonthefenderbass]

hey not all gays are like that. im gay and im 100% on jacks side

[@lizielue3411]

That is a great lawyer.

[@oldemail227]

Jesus would quite clearly have said "repent of your perversion or perish."

[@noellewest4347]

This man would have the right to refuse to make a cake for an infant christening ceremony (if he's protestant) or for an adult baptism ceremony (if he's catholic). He's made it very clear that he is not judging anyone; he is simply standing by his own convictions and exercising his right as a citizen of a democratic society to not express something that he does not believe in. It really is not that difficult to understand. But Americans and their fallacies... it is just nauseating.

[@friendsdontliepapaisntdead2451]

If this couple came in for a cake for Halloween would these guys be getting this pissed of?

[@ch44227]

Everything I've seen of this man tells me he has the attitude of "You're entitled to your beliefs. I'm entitled to my beliefs. We can still be friends. I'm happy to do business with you. But I can't participant in something that goes against my beliefs." And everybody seems to interpret that as in judging and hate. Doesn't matter how polite he tries to be explaining that, or making it clear he will sell them anything else. I'm sure if Joy was asked to bake a cake for party celebrating Pro-life causes, she would refuse. Does it mean she hates them or judges them? Of course, it just means she doesn't believe in that one aspect they believe in and she doesn't want to be apart of it. People who make the argument that Jesus would bake the cake are oversimplifying it. To them this is being nice vs. not nice and Jesus is nice. Of course Jesus befriend tax collectors and prostitutes, but he never condone that behavior. He called out that behavior as sinful. He would never assist them in celebrating that behavior. Also the argument about asking people if they have premarital sex or kids out of wedlock is ridiculous. The reason why is because he has never made a cake (that I know of) that celebrated premarital sex or having kids out of wedlock. Making a wedding cake for couple doesn't condone all past sins of the couple, it just celebrates their current union.

[@candyluna2929]

God chose this man for a reason bc he is leveled headed.

[@KnowBetterDoBest]

Looks like a bunch of hens going after this guy like a kernel of corn...

[@barbarariley3488]

Oh thats funny.

[@micahblessing6119]

The Bible does not say don’t judge others. It says judge righteously

[@charlesovercash8862]

If you don't agree with this man you have a right not to patronize his business.

[@calebcameron3076]

Yeah Joy Behar is not in a place to speak for Jesus. Jack is doing the right thing and I applaud him for doing so. Keep it up, Jack!

[@markheppleston1117]

Im all for going back about fifty years!

[@sagineafricain5769]

Jesus, give him strength

[@shiararuiz5171]

Omg they cannot force anyone to bake a damn cake sheez this discussion it is annoying

[@ninsnordin8209]

Now the hosts are all questioning the baker’s beliefs. Leave the man alone. Religious beliefs are personal and scared

[@nicwhite574]

1:40 she couldn't have worded that more perfectly 👏👌

[@raynekimi2755]

The crowd is fickle. They applaud for homosexuals and they applaud for normal people.

[@crystalwashington9280]

Nice unbiased panel assembled there.

[@bbysaywah]

None of them know Jesus though except the man 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Apolo1428]

now they are the greatest theologians of the world, oh please.

[@nacht_owl]

his wedding cake is not what legally and spiritually bind the couple together in marriage. no one is going to remember the cake months later even.

[@abhilashpaul9237]

I Support the Baker. It his Rights to Refuse.

[@saklee1777]

5:43 how dare she be so insulting. im sure jack is steaming with anger right now

[@colin4758]

a lot of people turn to this what would Jesus do line here and honestly he'd tell them to go and sin no more just like he told Mary Magdalene after he prevented the crowd from stoning her.

[@tori7805]

This is ridiculous why the couple couldn't go to another bakery. They are so petty and entitled. He nicely declined them and now he's lost 41% of his business and received death treats.

[@finaoo1167]

They couldn't go to another bakery because they never wanted a cake in the first place. They wanted a fight,so they could bask in the national "victim" spotlight. They singled this guy out because they knew he wouldn't make a cake for their wedding.

[@martasolomon6786]

Well He Won!! Boom! 💥

[@TonyTony-xr7pf]

Refusing to write inscriptions that violate your moral code on the cake. Is acceptable

[@markheppleston1117]

I still cant understand how "wacky" people have become!

[@denverlilly3669]

You have the right to refuse service to anyone but it can't be ignored that this was flat-out discrimination.