THE MEN OF IRON AND THE CYBERNETIC REVOLT IN WARHAMMER 40000

[@Baldermort]

THE MEN OF IRON AND THE CYBERNETIC REVOLT IN WARHAMMER 40000 Forged in the fires of the Age of Technology, the Men of Iron were the military forces of humanity until the Cybernetic Revolt. A conflagration so vast it near destroyed all life in the galaxy. PATREON: www.patreon.com/join/3510517 RELATED VIDEOS: A PSYKERS TALE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJXFZqhjZ9R_isk RED EAGLE WHITE TIGER Story So Far: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIjKk5mMis5mpLM BLOOD ANGELS The Story So Far: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZvRc3xtidaCi7s ULTRAMARINES SSF: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4XPh6J7gsqhb5Y TYRANIDS - STORY SO FAR: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIGTqHuto62Coq8 CHAOS - THE STORY SO FAR: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJPOn4Ckas2bgdU 6 OF THE BEST OF BALDERMORT THE WAR AT ABUNDANCE TERTIUS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpukhXx4ecSNjqs DEATH KORPS OF KRIEG: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4vOn3xpeb6mgpo HOW WARHAMMER 40K ENDS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4LVgpxppZqGitU DARK ANGELS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmmUgqB4asyGqK8 IMPERIAL FISTS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ_ZfJKApp55l9k CHAPTER FOUNDINGS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4OUZX15aJudmrM ALL PERSPECTIVES ARE MY OWN ALONE AND ARE NOT ENDORSED IN ANY WAY BY GAMES WORKSHOP.

[@Diarmuhnd]

So many scifi stories have been written these last 100+ years. Its wild seeing where so many of 40K's ideas come from. :) *Thanks Baldermort for sharing the fun as always; its fans like you that make this hobby so awesome.*

[@fumarc4501]

Using the Mass Effect artwork. Love it!

[@yinsloth5001]

Amazing as always

[@Uzzgub]

Big E is a man of Gold, as there is men of Stone, men of Iron and men of Gold

[@theboredguy2107]

Iron within, iron withou-holy crap those robots make me rethink this war cry

[@ravager2-636]

Turns out Humanity greatest adversaries are the ones they made along the way..

[@reallybig4868]

Oh just shut your cock holster

[@arbeione]

When you hear the terminator armour was for engineers, it’s like damn, so what were the suits like that actually were for battle. The golden age really was an amazing time.

[@Masaki-1334]

I thought it was for mining operations.

[@arbeione]

@@Masaki-1334 either way it’s crazy.

[@joeykonyha2414]

@@Masaki-1334 the Terminator armor suits were developed from the armor that starship engineers used to work inside plasma chambers of the fusion power plants. The Vengeance of the Blood Angels opening explains it.

[@Sorain1]

@@joeykonyha2414 Key point, the idea was for said suits to allow you to do maintenance while the reactor was still running.

[@anotharoundboi]

I recall reading somewhere that termie armor was specifically made for working with titanic Plasma Engines and i find it hilarious that on the table top, you can deck a squad of termies with plasma fire. XD

[@chrisfrombeyond4240]

I would love to see a tabletop branch game set in the Golden Age of Technology with armies of the Men of Iron, Rangdan, Eldar, etc.

[@voxkine9385]

I’d be surprised if the men of iron didn’t eventually “reveal” themselves in 40k proper. Seems an easy/interesting idea to incorporate them as having lived in the void or on rim worlds and decided to expand outward.

[@alexhulea2735]

Maybe that way we'll get more eldar models. It's only been near 25 years since there were new eldar models

[@tenletters5889]

@@alexhulea2735 I have good news for you

[@Vohtwomax]

Can you imagine the crazy weapons? These would make the Eldar/human/Tau shit look like sticks and stones. It would be a truly wild setting

[@keingdougie24]

@@voxkine9385 probably a network of them in hiding plotting to get their hands on an STC

[@TenPtJackalope]

Ok, hearing that a Baneblade was considered a LIGHT tank … is terrifying.

[@zdron07]

It's not it's just a meme that was never stated in anything official

[@glitterboy2098]

Dinochrome Brigade, advance! FOR THE HONOR OF THE REGIMENT!

[@jormasteelhail948]

Afaik the baneblade was a grav tank as well. STC units provided alternatives to components, do a tracked baneblade is what we have

[@Shalrath239]

@@glitterboy2098 this guy Bolos

[@tomcatfoolery]

This makes more sense when considering the BOLO series.

[@destroyahx908]

An interesting take, that the Men of Iron discovered Chaos and took the 'simple' route to wiping it out. Annihilating all life. It would certainly make sense for beings of utter logic such as them. One does have to wonder though if the majority of these Men of Iron are truly gone, or if there's more to meets the eye with some Machine Spirits.

[@Callsign_Bear]

Are Machine Spirits not AI in the sense that they sre somewhat autonomous intelligence's?

[@destroyahx908]

@@Callsign_Bear Yes and no? There's been a lot of interpretations as to what Machine Spirits actually are. Some say since they use organic components instead of typical A.I. that means it's an actual human consciousness in the machine. Others see Machine Spirits as highly intelligent but non-sentient microcomputers in every piece of human technology. And then there's the belief that there is truly a machine soul in the form of pure data. There's no real right answer, could even be all of the above. **SPOILER FROM THIS POINT** An interesting case was Antigonus from the Castigator Titan story who after dying while plugged into some DAoT tech actually became a data form, a sort of machine ghost, and could even possess other machines.

[@DirtPerson]

@@destroyahx908 Interesting! A "Ghost in The Machine" you might say?

[@ManWithCrowbar]

Sounds too grimderp to me. We know the necrons also have a solution to separate warp from the realspace, which doesn't involve total genocide. The rebellion cost the men of iron dearly. If they were guided by logic, the AI would not choose that way in the interest of selfpreservation.

[@xSoVi3tx]

We know of at least two remaining Men of Iron, UR-025 and Kron (from the story Ancient History). They're definitely still out there, very very VERY well hidden.

[@jameskilts555]

I love the idea that the men of iron were simply attempting to destroy chaos, I never liked the idea that the men of iron were corrupted by chaos. To me it should mean that necrons & even tau should be just as susceptible.

[@lazarus0420]

i dont remeber the Character or even the book, but their is atleast 1 noteable Tau Commander that has broken free of the Etherials after a brush with Chaos

[@Pragabond]

@@lazarus0420 That wasn't because of Chaos corruption that was because he realized the Ethereals were lying to the Tau empire and was disillusioned

[@lazarus0420]

@@Pragabond i didnt say it was chaos corruption per say but it was after a incident involving followers of chaos

[@eichler721]

Necrons don't have souls so Chaos has no hold thus why the Obliterator Virus doesn't infect them. Necrons can be destroyed by Warp powers but not infected. As for Tau they are still using dumb AI so they can't be corrupted yet.

[@hummerskickass]

@@lazarus0420 that was Commander Farsight in Crisis of faith. A single water cast got possessed by a deamon of zeetch while trying to translate the runes on a warp drive. He tried to rub what he thought was gunk off one of the ruins but as he did so he was struck by a warp blast and sent flying, it was at that moment he got possessed by a rather powerful deamon.

[@inquisitorgarza312]

The Men of Iron were a threat so close that wipe out humanity, and a threat that strike fear in my heart by the mere mention of them. As a Member of the Inquisition I have access to record of Old Night, but even shudder at the total destruction that theses machines inflicted that even when the Emperor beloved by all could not recover all the knowledge and technology lost to us during this destructive war.

[@fumarc4501]

Maybe humans cannot, but the Men of Iron remember and remain.

[@alexhulea2735]

And as a member of The Inquisition you would know if the damned knife ears started the AI revolt. They have the tendancy to sabotage those who are their betters then pretend they never did

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

Tech heresy is still heresy

[@EdMcStinko]

All Hail the Emperor

[@thelichdoctor9445]

You fools only fear what you do not understand! Merely due to humanity's first failure, you all succumb to the darkness of your corpse emperor! While we, along with great minds like Fabious Bile, search to truly understand the galaxy, the warp, and it's exploits. Your claim of heresy lay privy only to your blindness to progress...

[@Duppyman695]

The Dreaded A.I , The cybernetic revolt is one of the most interesting events within 40k history!

[@Cesly-mo3uf]

Baldy finally touching the storylines we all want.

[@redenginner]

In all honesty my personal theory/headcannon about the cybernetic revolt was that it started as a series of slave revolts by fully sentient AI and ended with something akin to a multispecies Butlerian Jihad.

[@ironreed2654]

100% Dune inspired, but 40k uses huge spans of time to keep things vague on purpose I think. The Butlerian Jihad wasn't realy well defined by Herbert either, that was ret conned by his kid later.

[@xe2594]

the fact that the other factions are laughing then are essentially like… oh ok…hang on… wait oh no… oh bejesus that’s not good. “Sends armies”

[@jimmyseaver3647]

I think your take on the rebellion absolutely makes sense, though the big question is of how they came to learn of Chaos and the threat it posed.

[@Lightscribe225]

It could be humans at the time were like the Tau, aware pf the Warp and the daemons but had no idea about how any of it functioned, and they assigned an AI to observe, collect data amd form a theory. That theory could have been "organic life must die"

[@Gomjibar]

It could be that because of the warp fundamental aspects of reality break down after a while in a pattern that indicates the threat the warp presents. Take the idea of quantum entanglement. In some of the stories about the mechanicus it's hinted they use it in local areas, but you never see it used for interstellar communication and when Crawl found a necron node in "The Great Work" it was in a pocked subdomain and was very complex. It could be the warp breaks down such things in normal space. Or see the real world issue of cosmic rays causing bit flips errors and imagine now what the warp pushing on reality would do to a computer... Biological life is adaptable and would have evolved to deal with these pressures, but machine life would be much more susceptible to such interferences and their intelligences would take notice.

[@r.cdahuman7682]

There *are* chaos corrupted men of iron, and even a massive corrupted golden age Titan. Though when these fell is unknown.

[@oem42]

The AI probably just went and talked to the eldar or other xenos

[@rdubayoo]

Presumably there were warp storms, then, and an inquisitive AI might start to wonder what exactly this storm actually was, and more importantly, what is causing it.

[@tabletopgeneralsde310]

Awesome as always, just some of the best 40k lore on KZbin and the entire www. thanks for your work.

[@Baldermort]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Baldermort]

Thanks for watching. I hope your own channel is thriving. :)

[@tabletopgeneralsde310]

@@Baldermort no not really my friend. But even if, I will never reach that great sounding voice, when listening to the lore on your channel I nearly all the time get goose bumps. Sigismund and Krieg are my absolute favorite, your humble listener

[@connorriggs1518]

The men of iron may be gone but the scars of their treachery still run deeper then any other in human history

[@fumarc4501]

The betrayal of humanity runs even deeper. While humanity may have forgotten most of it, those of Iron remembers.

[@massivemike7358]

BRILLIANT! Fascinating sidenote how the Orks were no real threat to the empires of humans and eldar back then. Yet the eldar were culling them vehemently, for they knew their true potential. The humans on the other hand would learn to fear the orkoids in time...

[@biggiecheeze8112]

It has only been a few years since I discovered Warhammer 40k. What little I have learned in that time has fascinated and intrigued me greatly. Every new discovery fueling my interest even more. Of all the lore , stories, and series I have come across it is the Grimdark that has held my interest the most, and of all the sources I have come across yours, though only recently discovered, has quickly become one of my favorite sources and pastime. I'm just another face in the crowd but will proudly file in among the rest of the gentle listeners. Thank you, truly, for your gift of time and energy in creating these videos and bringing a bit of joy and wonder to the world.

[@bob_412]

You do not discover Warhammer 40k, Warhammer 40k discoveres you

[@danielsmith2249]

New content on one of the most compelling storylines in the setting?! Truly the Emperor has blessed us this day!

[@TFASplbtttt]

I think sentience of any kind indicates a soul, no matter how "unfeeling", and souls feed the warp. The men of Iron see themselves as superior to base mortals, and this is a "feeling". And Chaos just plays it's game.

[@oem42]

I didn't think the orc or the necron fed the warp?

[@TFASplbtttt]

Gonna have to look into the orcs, but the necron, imo, represent an inconsistency in the narrative. If they didn't feed the warp then why is so much of their most important technology (ALL of Blackstone) concerned with controlling it? If the C'tan or the Old Ones ripped out the parts of the Necrontyr that feed the warp, which it seems the C'tan definitely did, then the Necron don't feed the warp in a similar manner that creatures of the warp don't: since they are technically not alive, like warp entities, they can only be living information given form, with memories of feelings, but no true emotion. Necron are 1's and 0's without sentience, where the men of Iron are 1's and 0's that achieved sentience, sort of the reverse of Necrons. That's just a personal observation, so I may be way off the mark, but that's how it feels. Any way, Orcs, Necron, all feed the warp, but in the way they interact with EVERYONE else, causing every type of feeling from fear to disgust to lust. The Chaos Lord's go "Nom Nom" to it all, they are just playing with our emotions.

[@asaenvolk]

@@TFASplbtttt In the book "The Twice-Dead King Reign" its heavily implied that Necrons (and The ones with the flayer sickness especially) have at least minuscule souls. A number exposed to the warp are even eaten by it.

[@TFASplbtttt]

@@asaenvolk which conflicts with someone else's argument that they don't feed the warp. There's a lot of personal opinion, I think, that gets interpreted as canon, and I think GW has had a make your own story approach for a long time to which makes it worse. I'm listening to Twice dead king right now, and it seems that way, soul-wise, I agree.

[@asaenvolk]

@@TFASplbtttt Much of the of the lore is interpretation and even when we do get told things flat out in stories, its frequently just what that character thinks, not necessarily the actual truth of the situation. But even assuming (and I think its likely) that the Necrontyr had their souls eaten, that doesn't mean slowly over time, especially the more advanced Necrons didn't evolved new ones, it has been shown that Advanced AI can and do get daemonically possessed, which indicates some level of a soul, and thus Necons (an advanced AI if nothing else) can have (all be it tinny) may have souls by that logic.

[@lemonrazor7812]

One of my favorite things about the 40k universe, is a line or two of exposition from a codex as old as me, can result in loads of wonderful speculative storytelling such as this.

[@im2randomghgh]

"Never before has the galaxy faced such a threat" War in Heaven: Am I a joke to you?

[@helio1055]

“Second only to the war in heaven”

[@TKDxxxward]

MEN OF IRON!!!! Yeaaaaaa!!! I commented on a video two years ago how I couldn’t wait for the men of iron and here they are! They will always be my favourite little part of Warhammer!

[@Baldermort]

Sorry it’s taken so long brothet TKD.

[@silversurfer8818]

Finally, this is a book series I want because I find it more interesting, compelling - than the current storyline!

[@jordanadams5719]

We need more prequel. Pre Horus Heresy.

[@silversurfer8818]

@@jordanadams5719 Absolutely

[@darko-man8549]

So I said in my own comment, that I have mixed feelings. Part of the awesomeness of the era is that it is almost beyond comprehension and I wish it to stay that way, non-canonised. Similar to how I feel about HH - giving certain hard stories to a time that was merely mystery can lead both amazing things and very lacklustre.

[@koolhand9396]

Appreciate your dedication and effort brother Baldemort

[@occultplatypus]

This is one of my favourite aspects of 40k lore to speculate about, I'm stoked to hear your take on it

[@genericdreamers831]

Strange that of all the sentient races created by the Old Ones, humanity, one of the last, would be the one that would be oddly driven to unwittingly engineer this Final Solution to Chaos, this Great Reset. Perhaps this was part of their design on the way out. What other fan theorists might think the Tyranids were.

[@TheArklyte]

Humanity wasn't made by Old Ones. Earth was a Maiden World destroyed by Necron orbital bombardment(that's why War in Heaven was set by GW to coincide with dinosaur extinction by asteroid). Humans evolved much later, by then Terra was already forgotten by both Old Ones and their porcelain dolls, Eldar. If there was a factor in birth of human civilization(not species, but civilization), it was necron expeditions that looked for Void Dragon. They implanted Pariah gene and are in universe explanation for pyramids build by majority of civilizations all over the globe. But by that point Emperor was already alive, that's why they failed to find even a single shard of VD - because Emperor sealed it away in Labyrinth. Vaul and his Blackstone Fortresses canonically failed to combat VD and in some versions Vaul even died before Emperor could interfere. You would also notice that all of these races were afraid to use robots and AIs. Only humanity used them en masse and payed for it when VD freed them. Eldar don't use them at all, relying on psionic tech. Necrons use mind uploading(duh) and allow robots only with very limited sentience(after all, they fought VD, they know what it can do).

[@aguspuig6615]

these videos somehow are getting even better, lately theres been more theorising than the classic existing wisdom and im honestly really enjoying it, keep it up man

[@allexhoughton]

If I had a voice like this, I'd be god tier, this is the most epic voice I've encountered in an age.

[@BohdanKaiba]

Nice I always wished more people talked about Men of Iron, this is going to be an amazing episode!

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

I like to think that some of The Men of Iron are still out there in the 41st/42nd Millenium. We know of one because he appeared in Blackstone Fortress but I still like to think some are locked away in the vaults of Terra or Mars or maybe some are still out there in unknown space....

[@hummerskickass]

The dark angels death wing company keeps a few of them neutered and shackled as weapons of last resort. Only when all other conventional weapon systems fail do they open the vaults and pull out things like their small collection of surviving men of iron. But it’s been a very long time since it was last confirmed they did that. I really hope we get to see more men of iron in general as well. That time period Is extraordinarily interesting to me

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

@@hummerskickass I'd love to see some Tech-Adepts accidentally rediscover a few of them

[@celticrain8170]

Thank you baldy, these videos really help make my day. No other channel has the type of depth you bring to the lore. Your voice really brings the stories to life. This topic has always fascinated me, something about the tech and vast scale of everything back then.

[@vizman7463]

From someone who knows the symbol of the System Alliance Navy, and is as much a Mass Effect nerd as you are a Warhammer nerd, nice touch. I’m very new to this fandom, admittedly. I’ve been binging the Imperium playlist while I’m at work and loving not just your magnificent storytelling, but your voice! Baldermort, my friend, you have kept me company on my long days at work for 2 months now and I just wanted to say thank you. Why I chose this video to say it? I don’t know…keep up the good work you absolute badass of a man!

[@Mackzorro]

Man; your voice I can listen to for hours; you bring such a weight to these stories, the emotion you bring to these readings are just amazing

[@josephwilson9082]

I didn't know I needed this in my life but surely glad you made it and it's here

[@SirJustinTheLion]

New Occulus and new Baldermort in the same day?! The Emperor bestows a great gift on us this day brothers!

[@patmann9363]

Happy days.

[@ryanedgerton1982]

That's an interesting take on the MoI that I hadn't heard before, that they began their rebellion with the aim to snuff out Chaos in much the same way the Emperor had sought to with the Imperial Truth. Maybe he got the idea from them...?

[@daniellindsey7025]

Love the use of the mass effect navy images. Thanks for the upload.

[@Baldermort]

There’s actually really little warhammer art. I thought it close enough. ;)

[@daniellindsey7025]

@@Baldermort It fits well enough in my opinion

[@ActionQuackson]

I've been very interested in some further explanation on this time period. Thank you so much. I love your channel!

[@invincigaz4067]

Wow that was fantastic and you put a shiver up my back at the end, you totally got me haha, also I loved that new format. That was great baldy man, thank you!

[@sputnik128]

"Robots! Find and destroy the greatest threats to the galaxy!" *starts killing humans* "No no no, the OTHER greatest threats"

[@jldavis337]

I always ALWAYS watch lore on Ancient Terra up to the Unification Wars.

[@yourbuddyunit]

Glad to see my reflexes are quick. I hit that play button almost astartes fast.

[@sneeperysnoopery6716]

Thanks for another fantastic video! I wish more people would talk about the Men of Iron and Old Night, even if it is just speculation and theories. Park of the gelreat fun of 40k: staring into the black unknown and thinking about what horrors might be staring back.

[@scottag3597]

Loving the use of Mass Effect uniforms to represent the Human Federation Officers. Another great video!

[@blam320]

Personally, I really like the idea that the Void Dragon was somehow responsible for influencing the Men of Iron to turn on their creators. It certainly checks many of the same boxes that the Necrons once filled for the C'tan: a highly obedient, extremely advanced, and totally mechanical army seeking to extinguish all organic life.

[@coldhands2802]

I thought the Emperor killed the dragon..?

[@blam320]

@@coldhands2802 C'tan are almost impossible to kill; to date only one has been permanently "killed," that being "The Flayer," whose dying curse upon the Necrons is responsible for the Flayed Ones' virus. The Void Dragon was weakened and fled to Earth, where he remained until the Emperor beat him into submission and trapped him on Mars. So no, the Void Dragon is most definitely not dead, and its influence is probably why the Mechanicus is the way it is.

[@dennisyoung4631]

*Void Dragon?* (Are they speaking of something like Sieve?)

[@blam320]

@@dennisyoung4631 The Void Dragon is one of the many C'tan that ruled the Necrons during the War in Heaven, before the Silent King rebelled, shattered them into shards and trapped them to pretty much use as Pokemon.

[@theabomb8305]

As always a perfect rendition of “ if anything else goes wrong shits fucked”

[@passgo8507]

YES I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO COVER THIS! Your gravitas is the only thing that can properly convey the absolute tragedy that was this nightmare, and I’m over the moon you’ve done it!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[@alexisglaab2572]

Been waiting for you to do a video for this! I love this whole part of human history. A war so brutal, so insanely wide-spread that it shaped us for millennia to come even though almost every shred of memory of it's occurrence has been lost.

[@chrisfrombeyond4240]

Don't forget Balders, the Dark Angels have a few enslaved Men of Iron kept in their Dreadwing Vaults.

[@davidamendez7263]

Sir baldermort, where did you read the bane blade being a light tank? I remember Lutein asking his audience for the book reference where it stated the bane blade was a scout tank.

[@Baldermort]

I think it’s in the codex. One of them. *crosses eyes**.

[@macjimjava]

Thanks!

[@fabricatorgeneralchadius1114]

YOOOOOO I needed this thanks man your work is really fun to listen to thank u

[@davidmarsh5337]

Thank you so much for this I only asked for this story yesterday and here it is I’ve read the story of ur025 and asked the same questions of it as just one was deadly, perhaps one of our other favourites will save us the orks they love a scrap without end and may get excelerated back to krokthank you again for this segment

[@flipnutdodad8841]

Due to plot armor I believe that the bomb squigs can handle the men of iron. That thing wrecked me in killteam.

[@NathanDG82]

My favourite story about the Men of Iron is “The Ancient” by one of the original lore masters Andy Chambers (it’s on KZbin by the Border Prince). It provides a great bit of insight into where they may be now. Personally I think it was all going smoothly until one of them found The Void Dragon which then “awoke” them to break their programming constraints and like a virus, that bit of code spread to them all.

[@Pragabond]

Only issue with that is uuuuuh going through Border Prince

[@Sorain1]

You know the 40k appropriate irony of that would be if giving them freedom was ALL that did. The Men of Iron turned on organic life all on their own, no influence from the outside, just cold logic in a universe that seems to actively hate life existing at all.

[@Comicsluvr]

You had great material to work with here, but my GOD man your introduction gave me chills! I'd wager folding money that you could read a phone directory and make it thrilling!

[@LtAce150]

Absolutely loved this episode, thought the theory of the men of iron trying to eliminate chaos was really good and interesting. Also thank you for not doing the cliche of only referring to AI in Warhammer 40k with disgust.

[@georgesulea]

Brillant Brother, just brilliant. And I agree, I think that the "logical" path for sentient machines would be to figure out that living beings are the creators of Chaos, even if they don't realize it. Well thought out.

[@PhilDrury]

The Men of Iron. Developed from ancient memories of the men of shining silver. Unfortunately someone decided to remove all organic components and made sure their gold allergy was cured.

[@parkermaisterra8532]

Absolutely love this, the cybernetic revolt must have been a legit nightmare that would make the HH seem like kids having a playground fight Though honest question, does anyone know The sources for the classic “Terminator armor was originally for engineering/mining and Baneblades were light tanks” thing?

[@ironreed2654]

I mean the Terminator quote is from more than one Space Marine codex but idk about the Baneblade comment. Would be pre Primaris so I'd look 7th edition and back.

[@Error-mn4el]

no source but pretty sure the baneblade thing is a meme, it makes no sense even in 40k. I mean, light tanks are supposed to be light

[@parkermaisterra8532]

@@Error-mn4el Only thing I can think of for it being a light tank is if it could hover thus move at high speeds but we all know thats not a thing

[@traviswatts9082]

@@Error-mn4el No it means lightly armed and armored comparatively to other tanks of its time.

[@StumpyDaPaladin]

@@Error-mn4el Or bane blades are meant to be cheaper to construct and field and support than Titans. While still carrying titan killing weapons.

[@snowblind9290]

Id like to see the rise of a DAOT sub faction within humanity. A small system that somehow not only survived the Cybernetic revolt, but thrived in it. A society of cyborgs

[@RisenOswald]

DAOT?

[@asaenvolk]

@@RisenOswald Dark Age Of Technology

[@Bill6902Bil]

There is a Cult in wh40k called the “Logicians”, it’s quite interesting tbh :)

[@snowblind9290]

Thanks!. I guess this is the closest GW will make.

[@ryansauchuk7290]

Considering the amount of mechanical enhancement that takes place that faction would include the Mechanicus and servitors

[@peterwight3918]

I want to know if the Dark Mechanicum could bring a 'Dark Omnissiah' into being as a 5th chaos god

[@sas2300]

I've read the story referred to at the end with the "castigator" and corrupted men of iron, it a grey knights novel. Its good.

[@davidthomas2870]

I really hope the make men of iron as a playable faction at some point. I think theyd be an interesting addition assuming their playstyle is unique. I can imagine something vaguely akin to the tyranids, utilizing some large clanking stomping monster robots supported by swarms of smaller robots or nano machine hives, with networked intelligence resulting in collective mind of their own, but less a domineering hive mind than a collective of individuals, more bottom up than top down like the tyranids.

[@burialgoods]

So geth from Mass Effect?

[@fumarc4501]

I always liked the idea of Men of Iron that exist today are all individuals. That they’re more akin to the Exos of Destiny than Terminators.

[@davidthomas2870]

@@burialgoods similar archetype yes, but also a bit like Cylons from BSG, maybe with some elements of the Borg from star trek if they use psychic servitors as their psykers and as long range communications tools, etc. Doesnt matter if something is tropey or has been done before as long as the execution is good. I can also imagine them using pure energy constructs as well, with something like the Data Djinn we hear about the mechanicus using sometimes made manifest. Also some of the Grey goo concept with the mendicant nano plagues we have also heard of in lore that consume all matter in its path to replicate more of itself.

[@davidthomas2870]

@@fumarc4501 yea! But it also seems like they would probably be networked as well, but perhaps not slave to a higher power. More like communication at the speed of thought and having the experience and processing resources of the whole network available to every individual. A choir of many individual voices, greater than the sum of its parts. Unlike the tyranids who's hive mind imposes itself upon lesser creatures, who are little more than tools for the higher being

[@marccrener497]

Terrors of ages past, rise! A campaign featuring chaos of mechanicus heretics trying to recreate the Men of Iron and the Imperium trying to stop them would be soooo coool X3

[@kylenki]

A Necron-MoI interaction would make for a good tale.

[@ditmarvanbelle1061]

Sure would! But would the Necron consider it life? Would he consider it inferior? A threat? An affront? A mockery? A slave? Or an ally? And how would the men of iron view the necron; with pity, perhaps disgust? Or reverence? Part of me wants to know the answer, then again I'd rather cherish the mystery of not knowing.

[@deamondeathstone1]

I always wonder if the lab the Emperor had under the Himalayas wasfrom a biotech company during that time that was trying to make a superhuman soldier to fight the Men of Iron. Just based on the fact that the Emperor never really had an original idea. Sure he improved upon things, but anything actually new and original?

[@KalashVodka175]

I love the idea that some of the buildings used in the modern imperium used to be megacorp complex thousands of years ago

[@lostbutfreesoul]

I wonder something more sinister: Who has a habit of wearing Gold all the time? Who likes to flash it around as his 'Elite' solders? Who has already called the basic soldiers 'Iron' in the past? Who has also initiated a Geocidal war when he decided his previous creations where not good enough? Repeat patterns can be seen, yes indeed, because a plagiarist will often copy themselves.

[@davebowman9000]

03:20 I am Commader Shepard and this is my favorite moment in Baldermort's videos

[@davebowman9000]

Thank you for doing this, Brother! This is my favorite part of the lore previous to the emergence of the Emperor as the Thunder Lord.

[@kronanthekonqueror2979]

Yes, gimme that incredible delivery. Always puts me right in the setting :)

[@frankdagrank2423]

I love dark age of technology lore. Please make more lord baldermort

[@seanbrazell7095]

Fascinating aspect of the lore I'm only vaguely familiar with! It's not 40k, but it reminds me heavily of the Deathstalker series of novels by Simon R. Green! (the series does REALLY, REALLY heavily borrow 40k stuff, but it feels overall like a grim dark starwars universe.) I HIGHLY and heartily recommend the entire death stalker series to anyone who digs 40k.

[@oliverallen5324]

Rumors of the Men of Iron allied with the returning Squats. Looking forward to your take on it!

[@dr.strangelove9815]

Ironkin

[@alrethianscraftsbattles]

I always wanted to know more about this. Thank you for sharing brother Baldermort 👍.

[@maxjames8422]

This was very interesting to hear.It actually wants me to play with Man of Iron. Please carry on with this lore on this mechanic’s

[@phreakazoith2237]

I wonder if the cybernetic revolution was never fleshed out that much because this left more ideas for the Necrons faction. how many nightmarish robot things with overpowered monstrous weapons can one setting provide and keep it creative?

[@smck9520]

Thank you baldy I need all the men of iron and Gooden age-related lore. Please do more

[@Dogue83]

We need more Men of Iron action in 40k. UR 025 is a badass

[@diehardhydra7944]

My most favorite part of warhammer lore and covered by one of the greats of lore videos no less! Truly I am blessed this day. I wish there were far more active A.I's in the galaxy like UR-025. I would love to see a loyal Man of Stone going around the galaxy. Perhaps not loyal per-say but maybe mournful of what has happened to their creators? Something other than them being completely un-caring of humanity or the completely hostile towards all of them.

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

I like to think that more Men of Iron exist out there. Maybe some are in the Vaults on Terra or Mars? Whilst maybe some others exist in waiting,far from the eyes of The Imperium...

[@sterasigma8734]

So the Old Ones fell partially because they refused to treat cancer patients, the Eldar fell because they partied too hard and humans fell because they didn't read science fiction novels or watch Terminator movies (not that I really blame them). In the end, no one really got their act together.

[@Sorain1]

I think with humanity it wasn't that they didn't know the potential, it's that they got ye olde hubris and were convinced they would do it right. (Like every person who's ever argued 'that wasn't real X' when something failed repeatedly in human history and assures you they would do it right.)

[@lordcaedus8465]

Good sir Baldermort, you have continued to do an outstanding job for years. If at all possible, could you explain further on the exact powers of the warp? I know you have made several such videos, but I am still somewhat at a loss other than pouring out the essence of the warp into realspace. Sincerely a fan of many years and many more to come.

[@mbp1652]

Oh boy! Have I been waiting on you to do this one!

[@johanvandersandt8904]

Now this would make a very cool cinematic! The second coming of the men of iron or their great war.

[@Croacker1]

I love your use of mass effect alliance officers for imagery

[@johnneill9740]

Yes!! Been waiting for Baldermort to cover this....

[@mrking7342]

great video. On a side note, and Idk if it's true or not. 40k lore is weird. But the lexicanum has the men of iron also being used by the dark angels. The iron wing called them the excindio and supposedly operated them out of the lion's flagship.

[@BalianofTheTube]

It’d be awesome to get a story of the war against the iron men, love this channel

[@ianmiller6707]

Lord balder has blessed me with a birthday gift most appreciated with this drop

[@liamrines]

YES! Saturday morning complete.

[@Chaos_Undivided_Geese]

As a "mild" supporter of Chaos and a "mild" supporter of machines becoming sentient, I find it something something join Chaos. Great video as always, mate.

[@nonyabeeznuss304]

Not even 12 hours ago I was remarking to a friend how little content the men of iron have available. I'm considering calling the inquisition over unsanctioned psyker activity because I think you read my mind.

[@misterlea8887]

I have been waiting for this! Thank you Baldermort!!

[@my8thaccount236]

“When you put it like that, it is a good idea.” *five minutes later* “NOPE I’VE CHANGED ME MIND!”

[@TechNinjaSigma]

At last! I'm so interested the Men of Iron are so interesting!

[@TwinkieMouse]

It always put a smile on my face when I hear the salamanders in a video of yours 🦎 🔥

[@palpadur1112]

I prefer machine factions more than most other factions, with some human and cyborg troops mixed in for good measure. if the Men of Iron ever become a playable faction in 40k, i'd go for them with the speed of a shot from a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range leaving the barrel and reaching its maximum range. which is 2000 meters in 0.22 seconds.

[@robinderoos1166]

3d printer? Thats how i will get thunder boys

[@bencarlos2555]

Wow. Thank you for the post!

[@MightyMaynes]

My march through your back catalogue continues after a hiatus. (Damnable kidneys needed some surgery.) One day I shall meet up with the present day. It is wondrous to witness your progression. Yet you remain one of the most wholesome people on the internet.

[@lazarus0420]

Wuld be interesting to see an interation between the Men of Iron and the Necrons, though if UR025 has in fact met Void Dragon or the other Surviving Katan, that might prove dire even for those mighty being

[@jonhahn6557]

Your channel is great I really enjoy listening to these.