Baldur's Gate 3 How to Recruit Minthara after Betraying her and Saving Tieflings | Official Method

The latest method to recruit Minthara on a Good playthrough. This will allow you to save Halsin, side with Minthara and the goblins, lay siege to the Emerald grove, betray Minthra during the battle, save the Tieflings and then recruit Minthara. This was made possible after Patch #6 of Baldur's Gate 3. No more Temporarily Hostile!
There is also a more peaceful method here with no grove battle at all. Pure good playthrough:
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0:00 Intro
0:42 Save Halsin
4:15 Side with Minthara
5:54 Siege of Emerald Grove
7:32 Betray Minthara
9:10 Moonrise Reunion
10:38 Prison Break
13:10 Camp Encounter
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[@SlocumJoe7740]

So when I knocked her out I thought she was dead and I looted her of all items. The last hit was a butt of a great sword and apparently that always knocks them out even if Non-Lethal is turned off. So when I discovered her in Moonrise in front of the boss, she was buck naked which was hilarious

[@DonkThikkness]

One of the funniest spoilers I’ve read, because I did just that and haven’t made it to Moonrise yet. If she weren’t so horribly toxic and rotten inside I would probably feel bad for her. But her panties look good on me…

[@GenSphinx]

There should be special dialog for that. Her freaking out that you knocked her out stole all her shit leaving her to wander back ass naked.

[@shimmyking4]

to be frank, i feel like it's kinda on theme in a weird way. like they were so disappointed in her complete and total failure with the grove that they didn't even afford her a cloth to cover herself

[@sirrhakon7751]

so you can take her stuff i was wondering about that XD

[@_Angry_Potato_]

I looted her stuff when she was knocked out too, and was wearing all of her stuff. In moonrise she just had her camp clothes on, so I guess they fixed that. So now I have two sets of her camp clothes and underwear. But when I went to level her up, before giving her anything else, on the screen she was just a floating head and hands. Her body was invisible lol

[@SilverTheTrinity]

This video released exactly as I was busy taking out war drums and knocking out Minthara at the Goblin Camp! Glad to hear there's more ways to do it now.

[@wsbolivar6644]

"We will fix her" ahahaha. Nice one, man.

[@Senok13]

... What's with her, what needs fixing...? 🤔🙃

[@angryvaultguy]

Bloody halsin always arriving conveniently late to the battle lol

[@nixzxin]

Like the police always arrives right after a group of kids dealt with the Mind flayers from The Upside Down

[@bananaana1860]

Summary from someone with 650 hours on bg3 with multiple runs successfully recruiting minthara(good and evil runs) •eliminate princess gut in her private quarters (to avoid her calling reinforcements) •break the war drum next to minthara to cause “temporary hostile” stat •last attack on minthara must be melee without spells. •some say to keep her underwear on as it caused them bugs, but I have not noticed •defeat dror ragzlin as usual •notify halsin This is what I usually do, and I have not encountered minthara moonrise bugs for 3 non-evil runs. The only time I encounter problems is if priestess gut was eliminated after knocking out minthara. If halsin is also in your camp, he won’t be bugged. But he will share a camp spot with minthara in act 2. Also idk if this is related but I usually progress act 1 in this order. Grove, goblin camp, Ethel, saving florrick and defeating “paladins of tyr”, celebrate with tieflings, under dark and mountain pass.

[@nixzxin]

Thorough comment! Thanks!

[@mandydini]

Question - have you tried this method since patch 6? I’ve been getting the bug where the game won’t check off the leaders even if they are dead if you knock out Minthara. I’m trying to find out a way around it and I’m about to give up. I’ll try your order and do it without long resting and fingers crossed!

[@env1878]

@@mandydinibefore patch 6 my game would hard crash at moonrise every single time. That save wasn’t playable anymore I took a break from BG lol. Hopefully this time that doesn’t happen.

[@thedarkness75]

After patch six it’s even easier to recruit her, just agree to her plan to raid the Grove and non-lethal KO her there, that’s all there is to it. There were so many things that could go wrong back at the camp, the Grove is a better option especially for those who are having problems

[@markwasinger9381]

Did you have to talk to her / agree with her on anything specific - before destroying the drum and knocking her out?

[@arckanon13]

10:16 if evil, why cute

[@Vince-tt1uj]

cutevil

[@fatterperdurabo42069]

That's how she gets away with shit, like a raccoon

[@ylfaer]

To force us, fools, to help the cute evil damsel in distress.

[@underlordd]

Thank you for making this brother. nothing like a step by step guide.

[@cassidywest5539]

10:17 that look she gives is heartbreaking.

[@thannushankrishnadasan9275]

This is so thorough. Thank you. 🙏

[@yeahnokthxbye]

Just passing by to thank you! This method worked perfectly!

[@animationresof9]

Her grumpy face is so cute though

[@animationresof9]

That pouty ILL DISSECT YOU ❤

[@GunfuPanda]

Legend , Thankyou. I went through with killing the teiflings with her to see how it turned out, 3 big battles and you end up back in camp celebrating with minthara, she seems like she wants to get kinky but then betrays you in camp. I was gutted that I missed knocking her out in the castle but this video saved the day, Thankyou. Do not betray the tieflings cause minthara will want to drink your blood back in camp anyway. And I hate the way the goblins chase around scratch when in camp it annoyed the crap outta me so I picked the one up chasing scratch and threw it into the water

[@nixzxin]

Thanks for watching! I have high hope that Larian will patch her further to make everything in good run with her seems more natural

[@teamEP789]

Minthara drank my bodily fluids but not my blood. maybe it depends what race you are. i was a senlarine female drow.

[@GunfuPanda]

Easiest way to kill the Matriarch if your stuck kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXbIpGeCa5ySmqMfeature=shared

[@Ryoko53027]

well i mean he's gotta learn to swim some time.

[@MotoMiles]

yeah, I was a bald buff looking drow with jarlaxal features and she drained my fluids . Tee hee

[@Inkcharm]

I'm playing with a buddy of mine who wants to stay non-spoiled, and I kind of hate that the only ways to get Minthara and Halsin on a good playthrough require meta knowledge/cheesing. I wish there was a more organic way to do it without workarounds :/

[@threesomeink]

Just suggest knocking her out so she has to report back to her higher ups, she failed.

[@DaveVersteeg]

in a game, sure. but Mithara is evil to the core...normal in a dnd campaign, if you play as good, you would never ever want to work with her

[@Inkcharm]

@@DaveVersteeg you've grasped the basics of alignment, congrats. Was there a reason you thought you needed to explain that to me on a two months old comment?

[@DaveVersteeg]

@@Inkcharm i just got this post yesterday, that is how KZbin works, maybe you don't know. You say you "i hate" getting a mass murdering psychopath in a good party takes a workaround or cheesing. When you play a "good" party you kill that drow were she stands. I just wanted to have a talk about this great game. I "hate" your passive aggressive replay...so FU.

[@user-mu8ok5xf8d]

One of the few ways is if people do the pommel strike to defeat her and don’t execute her. Witch does happen

[@whitlermountain7198]

You're the best, thanks friend.

[@obviousalias9506]

Thanks for this!

[@captandybee]

Nice video, well presented, thank you. Just as an aside, I met with Minthara at the initial point in the Goblin camp (defiled temple) and attacked her and the goblins after NOT agreeing to help. I concentrated on knocking her out non-lethally there, instead of bothering with the attack on the grove, and she still appeared in Act 2 in Moonrise Towers. She was recruited after saving her from the dungeon.

[@nixzxin]

Thanks for watching! Yea sounds like you might have done the other method. Another video I have last year was the method similar to what you described.

[@thepeoplesjewels]

this is the method I am currently using, glad to know it will work.

[@captandybee]

Ah, didn't see that.@@nixzxin

[@captandybee]

Yes, act of faith that she turns up in Act 2 after the initial knock out. I've done it twice. Once she was there on the floor after the battle, I looted her and that was that until Act 2. The second time, oddly, she simply disappeared! Her body was not to be found anywhere. So I thought it a glitch, however, strangely the loot was in my inventory. Nonetheless, there she was in Act 2 getting roasted by Kethrick. @@thepeoplesjewels

[@Ludbad]

This was exactly what I needed, so specific to my run, I was just about to delete my save and restart lol.

[@Cindyeeznuts]

I'm doing this in durge honor mode and that siege got me really nervous. It's my first time playing durge and honor mode. But I did it! No tiefling died. Thank you for this!

[@nixzxin]

Congrats! And good luck on the rest of the honor run!

[@JB-kv9zk]

Playing 'The Last Stand' from FFXIV as an outro song. Now that's Baldur's Gatering.

[@JDLambright]

Thank you! My Tav killed her on my first playthrough. Now as the Dark Urge, I will save her.

[@ninjaface2435]

Man, I had just passed this part and was in act II my first playthrough when this patch dropped. Tried to knock Minthara out at the emerald grove betrayal to attempt recruiting her later just to find out she wasnt at moonrise when i got there. If i had waited a couple days maybe i could have recruited her. I suppose I'll just have to play through again, what a shame 🙂

[@nixzxin]

That’s a shame. But good luck on the new play-through!

[@angelicastern2385]

Did you steal her lyre? If so, that might be why she wasn't at MTs because she needs that lyre to call Spider dude with the moonlantern.

[@manbearpig6025]

@@angelicastern2385ooooh that makes sense

[@YouTubeChillZone]

I stole lyre and she was in mt you may have had a game bug

[@chanlekho]

I am currently on Honor Mode, so i cannot test things without save files. and i have some question. I want to kill Priestess Gut in her room first, give location to Minthara, and kill all goblins in the main hall, and finally kill Dror Rargzlin for the loot and mind flayer worm. Next i teleport to the grove and full rest and finally fight Minthara, do you think it will work?

[@nathanielrodriguez6485]

i love this way more than knocking her out at the goblin camp

[@spyrochrisgaming]

Phew. I had tried this in Patch 1 and it obviously didn't work. Minthara would essentially die and her body would simply disappear. So glad they fixed this! Thanks for the video.

[@Naurae10]

Awesomeeeeee!

[@puddinbuns]

Cool accent! I definitely needed this when I first did this quest 😭

[@nixzxin]

There always an option of a second playthrough :)

[@LordWaldow]

I love they added this because...this was how I did my first run, when I bought the game 😂

[@senhowler]

It would be nice if you could learn she was a victim earlier in the game so you would have a reason to knock her out rather than kill her.

[@atimidbirb]

BLESS YOU

[@tomaszfaferek9030]

It seems like something I need to do in the next playthrough

[@lukekline9513]

Your tav looks so cool i may just have to steal the look entirely

[@PitFriend1]

From where you enter the prison you can just go up the ladder and down the other side and you’ll get to where Minthara is.

[@josephsmith886]

Huh? You talking about the slimy entrance to the nautaloid mess under moonlight towers?

[@PitFriend1]

@@josephsmith886 No. In the room before you go into the Warg Pens to free Halsin there’s a ladder along the wall. If you climb it you’ll be on the wall above where Minthara is and you can just climb down the ladder on that side. Saves you time running out and around through the main chamber.

[@josephsmith886]

@@PitFriend1 so, if I didnt see her getting told off my Kethirac and not being tortured, but knocked her out at the Grove, she'll be in the cells?

[@josephsmith886]

@@PitFriend1 sorry...misread. yeah, I found her just fine at the goblin camp. Lead her to the Grove after saving Halsin and turned in her but knocked her out. Her body was gone after a long rest but when I finally made it to moonrise, she wasn't pleading for her life. Instead it was just the goblins.

[@bananaana1860]

Just to be safe: always defeat Priestess Gut first! I know this is a different method than taking all the leaders in the goblin camp, but this game has a risk of bugging out when the order of events is done out of order. It’s okay if you pick up items before the quest asks you to, but every problem I’ve run into had to deal with me going/speaking/doing something before I was told by an npc

[@despawningenemy420]

what about Dror Ragzlin? I tried this guide step by step but left Dror Ragzlin alive and knocked out Minthara outside the Emerald Grove but she didn't show up and Moonrise.. Any advice?

[@KrypticStudiosCorp]

Keep in mind that even after all game updates until now you are still not supposed to recruit both Minthara AND Halsin at once (they use the same camp spot). However the game devs after feedback have added dialogue, fixes, and methods for Minthara to make it easier to recruit her without bugs while also saving the tieflings AND Halsin (you had to let both die before released game updates).

[@guguyao]

So you can't really recruit them both?

[@razoredge7394]

@@guguyaoyou CAN recruit both of them. halsin just goes and camps wherever he pleases

[@bananaana1860]

@@guguyaoyou can recruit both, but their camp situation isn’t fixed😂 sometimes it’s hard to select the right companion because they fuse into one. In my experience it’s only once you reach late Act 3, Baldur’s Gate camp(specifically outdoors) where they don’t share one spot. Minthara dialogue is still not polished enough though, but there are some improvements in each patch

[@vanhoot2234]

there is also a ladder right outside the prison where halsin is and you can short ut your way to the drow

[@patrycjalamczyk3295]

You can trigger non-lethal damage while she's still at the goblin camp without all of this fuss. Talk to her, make her sure that you'll raid the druid's grove, and after the conversation take down the scrying eye or the war drum in her room (you may as well attack her or any of the goblins in her room, but this will alarm the other goblins in the camp quicker - scrying eye and the war drum used by enemies in there will alert the other goblins). This will trigger the "temporary hostile" buff on her, which is the only circumstition under which you can meet her later at Moonrise after patch 5. Just make sure you use melee attack on her to put her down to 0HP, not ranged nor magic. Also, you need to kill the two other goblin leaders before taking on Minthara or at least deal with all of them within one long rest - Priestess Gut can be killed sneakily in her room, although I'm not sure about the Dror Razglin. I know that after knocking out Minthara and dealing with the other leaders you'll need to leave the goblin camp and never return until the start of act 2 (she'll remain here unconscious upon reaching the Moonrise)

[@revisitedgrunt3706]

I followed all these steps, got to Moonrise Towers and there was no Minthara. Just checked my save games and I did the Druid Grove battle two days before Patch 6 released. 😒 Guess I'll have to do another palythrough. Still, thanks for confirming that what I did is the correct way to do this.

[@thebluebox5015]

Hi! Quick question should i save Sazza the goblin or ignore her for this method to still be viable?

[@eloramoonwarden3848]

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[@rayswift5711]

In my slightly evil run I used the opportunity to try out Minthara. She had some great, compelling, really well acted scenes where I was truly moved, but then, most of the time, she's just kinda evil, take over the world style. I guess it's kinda hypocrite to cry for mercy when you wouldn't do the same for no one else. I wanted her to change but she's not that sort of character. I wish she could be just toned down a bit. Like, stay ruthless but show some amount of heart from time to time. Like the kind I gave you.

[@elderdiggs5951]

Can I still kill the other 2 goblin leaders (and everybody they know and love) at the goblin camp? after the battle at the grove?

[@ponglenis9273]

I wish she had a full different reaction and even question why you help her in this case. It is somewhat fitting her character to not snitch on you, as ketheric is done with her anyways and you are probably her best bet, but her behavior needs a fine tuning still. Honestly I don’t think she should live without metagaming, but it is fine in a second or third playthrough

[@joshualee3059]

Im on Patch 6 Hotfix 20. If you send a conjured creature into Moonrise to check if Minthara is there it wont work, she wont be there and it will look like the whole recruitment process was a failure. I tried this because I was doing a BEELINE to check if Minthara was alive at Moonrise after the Goblin Camp business.... I believe there must be some cutscene (perhaps the guards out front of Moonrise?) that is required in order to relocate Minthara to Moonrise standing before Ketheric. And until that cutscene takes place perhaps Minthara is stored safely in some inaccessible location in the game world after being knocked out? I should mention that I employed the older method of stealing in plain sight, turning Minthara temporarily hostile, knocking her out in the Goblin Camp before completing that whole mission and saving Halsin.

[@Stormocity]

So, doesn't saving Halsin bug this out? My friends and I are trying to do this run, but everywhere we see online, people say that having both Minthara and Halsin in camp at the same time bugs her out, as they share the same space at the same tent. And saving Halsin automatically has him join your camp at the end of Act 1... We even tried not interacting with him whatsoever, knocking Minthara out at the goblin camp, and killing the other 2 leaders, but he still ends up joining your camp if you long rest at any point in the Act 1 area after defeating the goblins. Is there a way to remove Halsin from camp (without killing him)? Can you refuse his offer to join your camp permanently after the curse questline? Because you cannot refuse him joining you leading up to Act 2. We tried, there isn't an option.

[@gilangtk18]

Did the order of defeating the leader matters? I tried to knock her out first (temp hostile), kill gut second and ragzlin last with the drums destroyed first. After the long rest the knocked out minthara just wasnt there and halsin/zevlor quest is not progressed (cant quicktravel with halsin but still managed to get out by the side entrance of the camp), I bring halsin to grove but no one notice him as theres no cutscene of him angry to the druid 😂

[@bergmn_]

They added this new method, but they also buged all her dialogue, I love them

[@nixzxin]

They did say in patch note that they fixed some of her dialogues so that she doesn't give spoilers all the time. But there might be still some untouched.

[@bergmn_]

@@nixzxin well, the problem persist for now, I recruited her yesterday (with the “traditional” method) and she started to talk about the Emperor, later I killed Isobel (Dark Urge run) and her reaction was talking about the Emperor again, it’s a funny bug.

[@uraverageperson9585]

​@@bergmn_ gets really annoying after weeks

[@AMQWERTY379]

@@bergmn_ same, got "spoiler" about emperor even before this reveal happened in game. Now she is always talking about "Gale should not explode himself as he was told"

[@tedigrizli]

Should be fixed with the new hotfix. :)

[@CanisW]

Does this still work if I killed Halsin in the Goblin Camp? I assumed you couldn't have him and Minthara in your party at the same time, and I didn't find him very useful in my last playthrough.

[@justindrake1125]

Still has a TON of bugs. I have successfully recruited her exactly once. Knocked her out at the Goblin city then in Act 2, I telekinesis her from in front of the throne back to the doors. One time only she stayed non aggressive. All the other times she went red. It wasnt giving me the dialogue when they take her below. Some kind of glitch. Last time I made it all the way through the Moonrise tower, knocked her out again, she goes green. Healed her to full. She stays knocked out. Inet searches say give it minutes sometimes hours and a knocked out person wakes up. Not the case. Let it run overnight and she was still knocked out in the am. Tried healing tossing potions, threw water on her. Cant help her so it stays bugged. . I can try this betrayal way but every time in the past that I have knocked her out it didnt go well when I got to moonrise.

[@kingtaco258]

I guess that the way I have been doing it hasn't been good enough. I have just been releasing the goblin in the grove through the secret entrance to gain some trust, speak with Gut to get her to talk in private, talk with the Rag, release the Bear, keep him with me and then knocking Mithy out in the Goblin Camp with non-lethal attacks. Surprisingly enough, you can actually divide and conquer the rest fairly easily from here. If you are a Drow, you can resist being up to sleep by Gut but you have to fight her one on one, and if you can pass some difficult checks you don't get exposed by the dead mind flair. So it is then easy to use speak with animals to convince the spiders that you are their god and have them attack the goblins, taking care of most of them if you manage to keep them alive. Sadly I have not made it to act 2 yet to see the results of these actions because life keeps me busy and by the time I get back to it, the mods I have been using need to be readjusted.😅😢

[@whereisboris]

Hey, can you please update an info about Minthara when you reach Moonrise please. Knocked her out in Goblin Camp too while fighting with whole camp. I hope she will appear for me in act2...

[@onesolopolo4194]

@@whereisboris depends on the condition of the fight. She had to have the "temporarily hostile" status (its a buff) when she was knocked out. This is the status NPCs get when you destroy something, steal something or get caught pickpocketing someone. However, when a goblin plays the drums it removes the "temporarily hostile" buff, alerts the whole camp and turns all NPCs fully hostile. Knocking someone out in this state used to be counted as a kill even if you knocked them out, but maybe thats changed. If you want Minithara you might want to reload but Id do some more reading, maybe its easier now.

[@whereisboris]

@@onesolopolo4194 I’m too far already. But in this video minthara have shown up even after a siege of goblin camp, so I hope she’ll be there in my case too

[@FimmyJallon3550]

What if you agreed to raid the grove with minthara already before rescuing halsin? Does it still work out? I’m at that point in my first honor mode run and really don’t wanna mess it up😅

[@bobbyboyderecords]

Minthara was not inside moonrise tower, she was outside on the road under the bridge area. Now I can't seem to find her! I can't see anyone else with this or the cutscene that she did.

[@vovasyhin7219]

I hope they fixed the jumping AI bug, sometimes the party AI shits it self and the companions wont jump on their own getting stuck, even quicksave/quickload does not fix this, and the only way to fix it is by manually selecting the character to make them jump. That damn bug had always annoyed me. I just hope when the Definitive Edition comes out they squish that bug.

[@alohafucku8247]

If i save the grove and then recruit Minthy, did the Halsin and Carlach leave my camp forever? Or its fixed right now

[@MagiaErebea028]

Yea I just got to moonrise and apparently didn’t knock her out correctly before patch 6 so she wasn’t there

[@robcampion9917]

It's a shame they don't have it that if you give her wrong directions that you find her locked up in Moonrise and can persuade her to join you that way.

[@theWTFisthisguy]

What would happen if you free sazza and knock her out at the grove raid. Also still got to do the forge and rest of underdark still with the colony.

[@Jefrejtor]

I just wanna say your character looks majestic as fuck

[@chanlekho]

Man i did 2 runs and i never knew there was a battle at the Grove. I usually just fight Minthara near the table.

[@nixzxin]

The battle is very epic.

[@angryvaultguy]

The amount of paths this game has is crazy

[@Ulathar]

A shame that this doesn't work with the hunter in the swamp that hunts astarion. If you knock him out he is still considered dead and won't appear in the hunter camp in act 3.

[@Foggishow]

11:29 i asked her to hide and wait. I killed everyone in the basement. And then returned to her and found out that i simply cannot interact with her (there is no option). I have saved Tieflings. Moreover i brought Minthara to Last Light Inn and nothing changed. Cache was cleared, game was restarded, long rest did not help too. Playing on honour mode. Any idea 🥲?

[@killgore699]

Two questions. 1 does saving sazza affect this method at all? 2 do you have to save minthara for last in the seige? Or does that just make it easier?

[@nixzxin]

1. Don't think so. You will side with Minthara anyway in the goblin camp. And Sazza will take you there. 2. It's just to make things easier as there is a lot of explosions from both side..

[@KingNazaru]

So through this method, could I bail Sazza out 3 times, rescue Minthara, and the Gnomes and receive the trophies associated with them all in one go?

[@gqAlysanne]

Yes Sazza stays at the goblin camp but if you go back to the goblin camp she will aggro along with every other goblin

[@soulreaper1898]

Can you do this while killing priestess gut and dror ragzlin at the goblin camp?

[@02091992able]

I myself had little problem with the other method. But it is nice to see the devs give players more options to do it.

[@theomnidegenerate5236]

I feel they need to change her initial interactions through this method. It doesn’t make sense that you’re the reason she fails you show up and yet she doesn’t call you out. She doesn’t have any real extra reaction at all and then even when you free her she doesn’t confront you about it. It’s really stupid and I think the other message makes sense partially but this one doesn’t really make any at all at least the weights executed it could make sense but it needs some extra narrative points. Also, the first way made no sense either if she recognizes that you’re the one that knocked her out, it should rely on disguise, or some other form of knocking her out without being recognized I’m fine with her joining you on a good run. In fact, I think it makes more sense than her joining you on an evil run given her motivation has nothing to really even do with you. It just has to do with getting revenge on the absolute for betraying her . But it also makes no sense for her to join you if you’re the one that betrays her in the first place and she knows it was you, so I feel like you should be able to knock her out and recruit her not to even on a good run, but it should be stipulated not on her being temporary Lee, hostile or whatever this quest line is, it should be based on you to feeding her and knocking her out in someway while disguised or invisible, or some other way unrecognizable

[@angryvaultguy]

​Yeah like I betrayed her then recruited her in act two and she starts initiating a romance 😂

[@02091992able]

@@theomnidegenerate5236 They could make it that she does recognize you but realizes that telling Kethoric that you're the one wouldn't help her either. Since Kethoric was going to have her killed regardless because of her failure to retrieve the weapon.

[@darthvader0510]

i actually went through the nightsong quest first and came back to the grove a couple of times where i left her there unconcious during the grove attack, which she then aggro me. I guess no way to recruit her now.

[@hrishabhdivya]

what about the other commander should i kill them after knocking out Minthara or before ?

[@QiaraIris]

Wow, so knocking her out during the tiefling battle also will make her recruitable now??? Fantastic!

[@nixzxin]

Yes. Thanks to Larian listening to players.

[@gnayiefnus1327]

What if I clear out the goblin camp and knock out Minthara in her office before ever talking to her, and therefore skip the entire siege battle. Do I still get to recruit her in Act2? (This is my first play through)

[@panosleivadaros5700]

i knocked her out at Grove raid and when i go to moonrise tower, i see her still knocked out in front of the throne. The scene triggers and i convice them to take her to prison. But when the cut scene ends she is still knocked out in front of the throne and i cant wake her up. is it bugged?

[@leoross4674]

After knocking out minthara, shall i kill Dror Razglin or do i have to keep him alive till Act 2?

[@murrowboy]

It's such a turnoff she throws people under the bus and fears death. For a harden warrior like Minthara, it's unbecoming for her to beg for mercy. Now I have no choice but to romance default Shadowheart.

[@coyoboyo]

A buddy of mine and I did the original method, even with Temporarily Hostile, she was missing from Moonrise. This method seems a bit more upfront and easier, making the other fights at the goblin camp easier to possibly. Can you return without aggravating them all on sight?

[@angmarliche9187]

@coyoboyo I tried this method out and the goblin camp is hostile if you don't long rest. If you long rest, they all leave.

[@3Authoress]

Is it possible to have both Halsin and Minthara and you camp at the same time? Are we limited to one or the other? Asking because that would be both an interesting twist and make for some fabulous conversations.

[@mightymurph3949]

Since I sided with the goblins I didn’t pay the bear any mind. Consequently, I didn’t know who the bear was until act 3 😂😂

[@JoshuaRWorkman]

Not how I want to do it, but good to know if I can't make any other way to do it work, I can revert to an old save and do it this way.

[@nixzxin]

This should be much easier to do than the other method. Remember not to loot her Lyre.

[@redmistletoe22]

May I ask? what's level of your character? why they have that much hp?, in my run when I get into the goblins camp my party level is around 4-5 and never get hp more than 50

[@nixzxin]

I was in easy mode so I can rush through the story and show it result. You won't get that much health in any other difficulties.

[@bboycyl]

She's still not at Moon towers for me. Wtf! I did the same thing as the video too, but my save was before the update patch 6. I was close to the moon towers hopping the patch would fix her being at the moon towers when I first enter the place. She still isn't there...

[@__Infinity_Hearts__]

she bugged in my play thu so this video is huge and gave the drive to delete my run and start over

[@YouTubeChillZone]

Therefore, it is worth setting autosave to 50 in the options. You save yourself a lot of time when something stops working along the way

[@__Infinity_Hearts__]

@@KZbinChillZone honour mode run.

[@Novskyy621]

"We will fix her"

[@jameslovekamp8028]

I wish there was a way to confirm whatever you decide to do worked before act 2

[@docgiggs]

You can kill every goblin in that camp except Sazza. It doesn't matter. Sazza needs to be alive if you want an achievement only though. Otherwise you can kill her too. It has no bearing on recruiting Minthara. You can knock Minthara out at any point in the game and still recruit her. However, if you want to compete a quest for more experience points then knocking her out during the siege of the grove is best for the goal of maximizing the experience pointsl. For me, I initially talked to Minthara in the camp. Told her I was going to help. She then leaves and I let her. Once gone, I dispatch every goblin in the camp and town. Doing so has no bearing on the outcome of the siege. After a long rest, I head to the grove and start the Siege. I side against her as this video shows. I have far more barrels placed though so I can 1 shot everything but the group containing Minthara in the back. Then I just clean up the extras and knock Minthara out. Can even loot her if you want to here no problem. Play through normally until the Moonrise towers then follow what this video shows. It really is much simpler now and more rewarding experience point wise.

[@Drtikul92]

what you did with Halsin? they supposedly share a spot in camp with minthara

[@sleiphr1134]

Can you return back to the camp without any issues after knocking her out?

[@AudyPutra2]

When I visit MoonRise Tower she is still knock out, the cutscene run normally but the quest to freed her is stuck since she is still knocked out in ground not went to dungeon😅

[@m0thdm]

Thats great. I hated having to follow a very particular obtuse protocol to recruit her. Keeping her alive under ANY circumstances should lead to her being punished in Moonrise towers which is our chance to save her.

[@karmaakabane8571]

I did this . She never showed up at my camp. Same dialogue rescuing her.

[@vikingrbeerdserkr8406]

The question is, can you use this method while having Karlach in your party without loseing her?

[@majesticbob884]

Whenever I get pass that gate I starts a battle with the shadows. What did u use again

[@Rain0and0Thunder]

you don't actually have to defend the grove from Minthara if you obscure your memories from her, she ends up never attacking the grove.

[@Sebastian-zd9et]

What happens to Priestess Gut and Dror Ragzlin if you betray Minthara at the gate? Are they still at the Goblin Camp to fight? Do they show up later in Act 2?

[@cdtoad6470]

Gut and Ragzlin are still at the camp- Although all goblins are now temporarily hostile towards you. Not too sure about them showing up in Act 2 if you don't kill them in Act 1 (killed Gut before betraying Minthara, killed Ragzlin after betraying Minthara).

[@rylorthreev1353]

Did they also fix Halsin and Minthara sharing the same camp space?

[@Encephalon]

I think so, this past week Halsin has been elsewhere while Minthara is at the normal spots.

[@Silenthitman44]

He's just standing off somewhere else

[@rikku2ryoga]

okay i am a little confused. i'd like to ask a few questions of somebody who is familiar with the new this new method to recruit Minthara by betraying her at the grove yet knocking her out with passive nonlethal damage however after a few long rests i went back to realize that where she laid there is now her musical instrument. two weeks ago i was told that i failed getting her because i may have looted her, now i'm scared i !@#$ it up. is it okay that it stayed? am i allowed to pick it up?

[@ellavirtanen4460]

It should be okay! The same thing happened to me but she still turned up at moonrise towers :)

[@bananaana1860]

It should be fine. I’ve always looted her afterwards with no effect to her at moonrise. Sometimes unrelated events can cause bugs, usually with the order of events. If I purposely do things out of the scripted order (based off quest log) I encounter some rather frustrating bugs.

[@cjaquino4259]

Can you save sazza and minthara at the same time?? for the achievement

[@nataliebateman1151]

Ketheric is a pain in the ass to deal with ongod. I'm still stuck on the boss battle since I'm only level 8. The third phase wiped me the fuck out

[@robertallen4685]

I keep replaying the battle at the grove after betraying her and even with non lethal toggled on she is always dead on last hit 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@normanbates7373]

The patch bugged her dialogues... Before hotfix u got repeatedly spoiled about late game stuff in the beginning of act2 (precisely after SF/NS questline) instead of commenting the actual achieved situation like other companions! Then they hotfixed the spoiler dialogues of her but only in exchange for repeatedly telling about gale and his old friend, what doesn't make any sense "wtf is gale, minty? Talk to the hand!" (durge act2-3) ... So finally they made the fanservice her to a legit good guy companion, but caused so much damage to her mind (buffed the torturing twins?).. My late try on an evil run with her feels like I romanced Patrick Bateman

[@cubbogelatinoso]

After I make Minthara prone with 1hp, I can loot her gear?

[@Midgert89]

Is this possible to do as an oath of devotion paladin or do you have to do vengeance?

[@nixzxin]

You can use any class for this method.

[@Midgert89]

@@nixzxin I did get oathbreak as a vengeance paladin, musta triggered some flags earlier. I did the old method of stealing+ knocking her out first, hope it works.

[@Silenthitman44]

I just knocked her out at the goblin camp while i was annihilating it and recruited her later never tried this one

[@nixzxin]

That works as well. This one was just another option added in new patch

[@mercurio822]

This got bugged for me as i knocked her out before rescuing halsin

[@uraverageperson9585]

​@@mercurio822wait so you knocked her out first and she didnt appear in moonrise?

[@mercurio822]

@@uraverageperson9585 i couldnt complete halsins quest, he never went to the grove

[@rejectx7798]

I knocked her out and she never made it to Moonrise and the dialogue claimed I killed her. I am confused.

[@jontayvious]

Maybe I'm missing something or I'm just thinking too hard, but does anyone else find it strange that Minthara doesnt immediately out you as the one response for her failed raid of the Grove?

[@nixzxin]

It's indeed strange. But you still saved her life later. And she lost her goals after Moonrise.

[@uraverageperson9585]

Thats an oversight honestly, that could make an interesting interaction

[@shadowprincess9817]

So, in my first playthrough, I had her knocked out at the battle but later one I heard it has to be while she is TEMPORARELY ko, so I assumed I Fd up her on that run and moved on, now I am going to reach the the shadow lands with that character so question, since with the update now even this way counts, does that mean I could still get her with that character or since that happened before the update she's lost for good?

[@nixzxin]

Hmm, it's hard to say, as it might influenced by how they did the patch. In my other video where I showed the Patch 5 method, I was actually in similar situation. I did the first part before patch and she actually showed up in Moonrise after the Patch. But for this method in Patch 6, I just did everything after the release of patch. Unfortunately, I think the only way to find out, is to try it out. Good luck! And let me know how it goes!

[@uraverageperson9585]

Can you update cuz I just did the same on my honor run

[@shadowprincess9817]

@@nixzxin Dont know if still intertested but, well I just reached the towers with that character, unfortunatly Minthara was nowhere to be found there, only lame goblins...so this confirms the patch does not retroactively fix this event for characters previous to the patch itself...