Bambu Lab P1P: Tradeoffs

The P1P is an incredibly impressive printer, but did it have to make all the tradeoffs it comes with?
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[@MartinWolker]

Please don't pay attention to those who want to steal your own opinion. That's why your videos are so valuable, because they contain the good and the bad regardless of the brand! Thanks Tom!

[@markmosley3696]

You're going to have to do 3 videos. One for the installation of the prelaunch upgrades, one for print comparison at Ender or MK3 speeds and finally a video for full speed including the speeds that Bambu states is possible.

[@morbus5726]

Why couldn't this just be one long video?

[@BeefIngot]

@@morbus5726 Because Tom can't eat a viewers preference for longer, more contained videos but can eat money from ad revenue. In a less cheeky way: I think it makes both more sense for Tom to split videos financially (if he sees enough appeal to warrant it) and also makes sense for viewers who might not be interested in the topics of all the videos but only want to watch some.

[@fa1rcz902]

exactly

[@morbus5726]

@@BeefIngot ah that makes sense

[@tomhsia4354]

@@labrikorn_3299 It's probably far worse than that in practice.

[@Jimaha]

You should definatley print the side panels as I imagine most people who are looking to buy this would like to see how easy it is.

[@achannelhasnoname5182]

It's probably a better idea to make the panels from wood or acrylic. Printing all sides will take forever, even with the fast printer, and waste a lot of material.

[@theglowcloud2215]

@@achannelhasnoname5182 I agree. I thought the "print your own panels" thing was mostly for decoration of one side of the printer, not for any real thermal reason.

[@kelvin1316]

I quite like the LCD, nice chunky pixels that can be seen by my ageing eyes rather than the tiny fonts (on a comparatively large screen) that many "nicer" screens use.

[@tintinthepirate]

Also, many Prusa MK3 owners pay over $35 to upgrade their LCD screen to ones like p1ps

[@kelvin1316]

@@tintinthepirate I run my MK3 via a print server so it is rare for me to imteract with the screen on the printer anyway lol

[@gregoryp203]

finally someone acknowledge the "Ender 3 is the best printer if you add these 23 mods" paradigm . So many time I have seen on reddit someone new asking what printer to get and ender3 fan boys telling them to get an ender3 and do these mods when the OP was expecting the 3d printer to be like a 2d printer where you click the print button and go.

[@ruftime]

Wonderfully pragmatic review as always, Thank you Thomas!

[@AuntJemimaGames]

I think a balanced approach to speed vs. quality is probably the most useful. Printing at faster speeds without any appreciable loss of quality is probably the best outcome for printed parts in almost all cases.

[@DarthTater5738]

You should do a few videos on it. I would like to see a head to head style video, this the mk3, the ender3 v2 all stock printing the same files. Then compare quality and print time etc. Then separately test the p1p against itself with the included upgrades. Then maybe a section on the cosmetic mods.

[@HappyMathDad]

That does not illustrate the pros and cons. Bed slingers are twice as fast with similar quality using klipper. The mechanics are just part of the issue.

[@paulmcewen7384]

Your video added a lot of value to the content so far available on this printer. kudos.

[@calaphos]

I have to be honest, I like the "PC case chassis" look. The savings of including corner pieces are probably quite low, but the whole theme of printing your own cosmetic parts is a nice idea. And as long as there are no sharp edges it has a certain functional look

[@EIEIOOOOO241]

Love your smooth and clean setup!

[@kira07]

your video quality is amazing ,thnak you for this content it makes my eyes water

[@ericjiang1045]

I would love to see how the print quality compare to mk3 x1c and Voron. I been using my x1c and it surprised me on print quality. Printing and 2-3x faster than my mk3 while having no warping on pc/abs while my mk3 have tiny warp on edges even with petg.

[@budhiw]

I would like to know if print quality and part strength are equal or better then 'normal' printspeeds and a hardware check for those parts NOT in the shop.

[@choschiba]

Thank you very much for the great video. It would be great if you could create 3 more videos. All of the ones you have mentioned are really interesting!

[@Dangineering]

I would love to see the results compared to prusa i3 and an ender 3 at various speeds like 50mm/s, 70mm/s, 100, etc etc and then compare the amount of skipping, visual artifacts, and overall changes between them.

[@pierregrollier4155]

+1 would be nice to see the print quality at different speed including "low" speed 50/100mm/s

[@cluebin8398]

I just got a P1P and am running PLA/PETG prints at 200 mm/s and getting better quality prints than my Prusa Mk3 running half that speed.

[@TMS5100]

i don't think he's going to do a comparison with the prusa.

[@r4yker442]

​@@pierregrollier4155 Funnily enough, most HF hotends actually struggle at lower speed - for example my Dragon HF produces wobbly walls on lower speed due to excessive oozing of the material - but on the higher speed presets I get totally smooth walls. But I agree, it would be great to know actual limits and minimum flowrates for various hotends, so +1 from me too!

[@Jeffmorgan1991]

I love how the p1p looks

[@grillonewyork]

very nice honest review thank you

[@DanteEhome]

For those who don't mind it looks industry-like, I think it's a great tradeoff!

[@TheTechenthusiast69]

good review ! I bought mine back in june and I do not think the screen is that bad. I use bambu studio so i use this screen maybe once a week to change filament but I could do that from the slicer.

[@Geoff_W]

Would love to see a video like this with the Ankermake M5 as well, since they seem to be competing in the same space for around the same price point.

[@CDSMadeIt]

Definitely would like to see a performance and speed comparison between the p1p and x1 lines before you do the full upgradeathon!

[@kailin1496]

It's really upsetting to see that you won't be uploading any follow up videos regarding bambu products. I kept checking back to see if you uploaded a video since I do love your channel and often find your insights to be logical and intelligent. I'm sorry you experienced such toxicity from a community that is meant to futher develop our world through technology, totally understandable you stepped away.

[@KerenWang]

Wait, what happened? I was watching Linus' Video which was way to positive and short :(. I need a full rundown if this is still worth it?

[@kailin1496]

@@KerenWangFrom what i heard there was toxicity in the bambu community that deterred thomas from doing anything furthur with them. The printers themselves are okay but there have been some quality control problems and problems with the electronics from what i have heard.

[@omegadeepblue1407]

​@@kailin1496thanks from telling me, what kind of problems does this printer has?

[@geekphoenix8858]

@@omegadeepblue1407 Really？i didn't hear anything about control problem，while using this product as well

[@workshopetech]

I believe the P1P also has bluetooth, which is a unique feature over the X1 series. They haven't said anything about how they are planning to use it though. Seems like they are also still mum on that external control pad.

[@cluebin8398]

There's a phone app called Bambu Handy that uses bluetooth to connect to the printer.

[@StefanWollmuth]

It would be very interesting to know what your thoughts are on enclosure. Do you think its possible to fully enclose the printer with help of precision cutted Dibond / HPL (sides / top) and a door with (printed) hinges and cutted out of Acryl / Plexiglas? Would be great if you could give your thoughts to help me with my decision. Thanks in advance!

[@thenextlayer]

Print speed!! Upgrades!

[@neurojitsu]

A very fair and balanced review, and lots for me to think about. I'm still attracted to Prusa as a company, but Bambu's product features at this price point are undoubtedly class-leading and it challenges Prusa's brand reputation as the default choice for a printer that just works right out of the box. I disagree that the company is an unknown quantity given it's a spinoff from DJI who have a track record of successfully dominating the drone, gimbal and now action camera markets. Their engineering ability is unquestionably a towering strength, though service is clearly a Prusa stand-out strength. I hope both companies thrive and compete; I slightly worry for Prusa that they don't have the engineering depth of talent and resources to innovate and scale up fast enough.

[@sander915]

Keep up the great work

[@ianhoolihan2396]

Voron comparison needed for sure

[@chaux13]

Good morning Thomas, thanks for the video and just wondering what 3D printer did you recommend with better or same quality for the same price??

[@MartinWolker]

I would like to see, if functional high-speed prints can handle the same force like the prints by normal speed.

[@mattanderson111]

Definetly. I just saw a strength testing video that showed overheated ABS at 260 degrees was substantialy weaker than at 240. And this spec sheet is making claims about extruding ABS at 280? There's no point going fast if it doesn't produce functional parts.

[@morbus5726]

@@mattanderson111 that doesn't make any sense, could you please link the video?

[@MartinWolker]

@@morbus5726 it does, bcs higher temperature brakes internal structure of the material.

[@morbus5726]

@@MartinWolker usually, with higher temps, the plastic has less time to solidify, which warrents a stronger fan. This fast printing would actually increase strength in the z direction, as each layer placed upon another layer isn't fully solid.

[@valentinpictures]

Your reviews are by far the most interesting in the community for anyone wanting a pure, unfiltered feedback without hiding the drawbacks. I'm glad you took the time to do this video !

[@a.j.venter16]

Reliability. The major issue with budget printers you mod to make better: is out of the box they aren't reliable. Ender 5's have prints fail because of badly tensioned extruders deforming the filament (I had that) and then again because of bowden tube gaps. Getting to the point where you can consistently get a successful print most of the time: that takes a LOT of upgrades, careful tuning and learning. It can take months to get an Ender type printer to the point where it's legitimately reliable. Now some of the newer entries in the market here like the Elegoo Neptune 3 may be better in this regard (I don't know), but this is their biggest shortcoming. And if I was to consider saving up for a printer thats 3 times the price of an ender 5 pro, (considering I spent almost that much on upgrades by now) - what I'd want is that reliabilty. On reputation: that means "Go for Prusa, for a hundred bucks more you get the most famously great printer build around, and it really does just work almost always). Quite a feat for a now 5 year old design. But its' also a slow bed-slinger using an inductive ABL that forces you to ALWAYS print on metal (I love my FR4 printbed). Is this better? Can it use other beds ? And is it reliable. Will it keep working if you print regularly over several weeks, or will you regularly have lots of failures due to mechanical printer flaws until you replace a lot of the pieces where they cut too many corners ? That's where a mid-range printer can shine: "Sure it's 3 times the price, but you don't need to spent that much again to make it reliable, it already IS reliable". Can you test that ?

[@tshackelton]

I 2nd this.... beat the snot outta it. This machine is a toy until proven otherwise. Let's see some nozzle crashes at 500mm/s ! :)

[@MoraFermi]

This. Reliability is completely underestimated in this hobby.

[@DustinGorman]

Hey Tom, watching this again. I'm thinking of getting the P1P to complement my X1C. I'm wondering why the top layers don't look very good. Any ideas?

[@sadizz455]

would you suggest this one over their previous one? im really interested to invest in a higher grade printer since i keep having endless issues with my 3 V2

[@09lnt]

I would be curious how prints look on their specified speeds, after all this is one of the main features that printers have: print speed.

[@SwervingLemon]

After their latest blog post, Bambu is in no danger of ever having me as a customer. I absolutely refuse to purchase from a company that has the audacity to file for utility patents on things that have obvious prior art. GFY, Bambu.

[@bobhepple5752]

Looking at the make Bamboo thinking of buying the more information the better dont want to go down the road of buying / upgrading and so on love the video and your frank and honest view's

[@matheokoning4456]

If speed is not the most important thing, is this still the printer(s) you would recommend for its price? Are there other/cheaper printers that deliver the same print quality at a lower speed?

[@anthonyrich1592]

Is the P1P still really loud like the X1 variants were? Instead of using off-the-shelf stepper motor controllers, such as from Trinamics, they were using two AT8236 (H-bridges) to drive each stepper motor.

[@jaysprenkle1026]

I'd like to shift the knob away from speed and more to quality. Can I use prusaslicer and/or tweak the settings?

[@user-ot4wp4mz6l]

You filmed this on a sunny day, ina well lit room, and this reminds me of summer, the nice, sunny days...

[@Yeltrah]

All three video ideas sound interesting to me.

[@S.rosalie.lopez1]

I absolutely love my P1P, unnecessarily fast, durable, easy to use, wifi, and impressive with what it CAN do

[@felixzeitler3955]

If I had the disposable income I'd get one in an instant. As you said this printer aims directly at the niche only Prusa was filling so for that reason alone I'm really looking forward to this; Prusa needed competition in that price segment for a long time. But I've got to say this video felt weirdly critical in comparison to your mk3s+ one. Like I wouldn't place side panels as mods. Current printers still carry the "cobbled together in a garage" look with them so a "removed decorative panels" doesn't seem half bad to me. As it currently stands the P1P is straight up better than an mk3s+ at a cheaper price imo.

[@Dangineering]

If the P1P was out when I was in the market I would have bought it over a prusa any day of the week, but I had things to do and no time to waste.

[@felixzeitler3955]

@@Dangineering Yeah, same for me. I like my Prusa but my next printer will be a voron or a Bambu Lab machine. When someone wants a recommendation in that price range I'll suggest a P1P 100% of the time as it currently stands

[@CarsInDimension]

I have the Bambu X1 Carbon and it does work impressively well. For smaller items, though, you likely have to lower the print speeds - I was getting spaghetti failures on the Bambu while my Prusas had no problems.

[@GarethLewin]

One thing I am interested in is the strength of the parts printed at those speeds.

[@lolyouwontfindme6070]

I’m sure it depends on your print settings and infill settings

[@Jeffmorgan1991]

Would be interested in seeing how quite it is at lower speeds with if any gains in quality.

[@TheFatAssCat]

I worry a little bit about a few things with this machine, mostly related to the proprietary firmware and slicer. We've also seen a lot of print companies come and go, so it is a little curious to see so much offered for so little money. Time will tell. I'm excited to see what this will push Prusa to do though, as you said the ~$800-1200 pricepoint needed more competition.

[@airmaxone7035]

Well hopefully it’s not like my x1c. Less than a month and the signal cable took a crap on it. Currently waiting on the replacement cable, but then I’ll have the rip the heated bed off to replace the cable

[@RobLudwick]

Do a direct comparison with the other printers in the market they're trying to compete with. Like today, which one would your buy? Which one are you still going to depend upon for day to day printing? What would you add/modify to it for a better overall experience?

[@kostakigogos]

Time for a series! I wanna see it all haha.

[@Angwolf1966]

How about the electronics on both. Are they exactly the same or is the X1C sporting a better "brain" overall?

[@fordgeher]

I would like to see a deep dive into the used hardware/technologie, especially the extruder, because I have seen some issues on the internet with a gear inside of the extruder which was worn down pretty fast. Besides this it is always interesting to see comparisons and tests of quality, printspeeds, reliability with complex prints, etc. Has it powerloss recovery and how well does it work in total?

[@lemonbrothers3462]

I'd love to see an analysis on the controller differences between the p1p and the x1. Bambu labs already said the lidar sensor would never come to the p1p, but on their comparison page there's other things the x1 does like the closed loop fan control that i'd like to know if they're just artificial limitations or if there's a substantial downgrade like going from 32bits to an 8bit controller (is that a difference between the 2?)

[@nmfireman]

Is it true that there’s no live Z adjustment like the Prusa has or even the Ender 3 S1? I told myself I would never buy another printer that would not allow me to do a live Z adjustment.

[@brianholdridge1860]

I would like to see if the pre-ordered upgrades add value or not. I have pre-ordered the P1P. The only thing that bothers me is the primitive screen. Even my Anycubic Vyper has basic touch screen.

[@Taematoe]

I have one coming so I would like to see what you do with yours customizing and upgrading it.

[@japrolol]

Nice video! I am thinking about getting the p1p but sadly its gonna come after christmas and me and my dad wanted to get one for christmas, but we will still probably get it

[@tomhsia4354]

Tom, it would be nice if you could test out Dyze Design's tungsten carbide nozzles some day. Compare them against the Obxidian and the Nozzle X. I imagine it would be an easy win in terms of durability.

[@jsa2145]

Good critical review, thanks, Would like you to try and push speed/accel by tuning temp, measuring max flow rate with different filaments and also different nozzle sizes !

[@AllanMacMillan]

Given the proprietary firmware, I don't suppose it will work with OctoPrint, right?

[@BeefIngot]

Indeed. Doesnt even have a data USB port. Only uses their slicer or app for wifi printing.

[@woodwaker1]

I guess I got luck, as I have an actual order for the P1P - paid the full amount, and thinking I may see it delivered in January. I'm not so concerned about speed. I ordered it for the ability to use the AMS. This seems to be the best multicolor - multifilament system especially for the price.

[@Nerd_Projects]

I would be very interested in seeing print quality. I am looking for a reliable workhorse that i can print small poduction series on but i dont feel great spending 800€ on a prusa that still uses 5 year old tech. Coule the P1P be the printer for me?

[@automatinger]

print quality would be most interesting to be reviewed. furthermore the multi material add on. is it better than Prusa´s MMU2?

[@Fredjikrang]

I'm honestly amazed that they were able to hit that price point while removing so little! About a 20% price reduction with very little change in capability.

[@Condamine123456]

What makes the x1 so exspensive is the lidar and the touch screen

[@MartinWolker]

When you add all options for P1P, then price difference between X1 getting very small, so better to buy X1 directly.

[@MonguzTea]

Did you watch the video?

[@Fredjikrang]

@@MonguzTea Of course.

[@michaelherron362]

Definitely go the upgrade route. We would all likely do that ourselves. Love to watch you do it first.

[@gravis00]

Do all the tings. Fast prints, quality prints and upgrades.

[@k0va1]

would love to see nice/reasonable quality settings analysis for pla/petg/abs profiles on this machine. i believe that main change to default bambulab profiles is an acceleration decrease.

[@alvinnorris6523]

If speed isn’t my main concern, should I look at a different printer. I want my printer to be close to print out of box and have a big print volume.

[@GG-hb7xo]

Thanks for the video. I don't wanna see(again) how fast print 'the benchy'. It's awesome that can print 2-3x faster, but I'd like to see in your next video if it's able to make part as strong and reliable as other 3dprinters.

[@GlennDeBacker]

As a student product design these type of printers is a game changer. Where I needed to fiddle with unhealthy (literally) amounts of foam, I can easily use this printer to quickly generate iterations. The only thing that nags me is the closed situation. With other printers I have some piece of mind that I can easily fix them when something goes wrong. I do hope this will kick other - more open - commercial companies in gear. I love the voron as a concept but frankly I just don’t have the time with my studies to tinker with it.

[@FrankGraffagnino]

one thing i'd like reviewed is on the networking side. I refuse to have more devices on my local network going all the way out to the internet to do stuff when the data is both generated and consumed right there on my network. Does this printer require access to the internet to set up the wireless? Does that QR code go to an internet URL or a local one? Can it be integrated in with home assistant? Can I easily send jobs directly to it if the printer is on the wifi but blocked from internet access? Those are some things I'd like to see reviewed. Also, can I use it with stock Prusa Slicer or do I have to use their modified slicer?

[@thumbwarriordx]

Screen is honestly the first thing I'd sacrifice for cost savings in a printer. The old style character display is all I need. just temps, status, feed rate, flow rate and 3 clicks or less to cancel a print. Though admittedly, the little FR icon on the actual Anets was not helping distinguish between feed and flow rates one damn bit.

[@therunophil]

I would find a "real life" comparison to the Prusa MK3 interesting, would this be the new machine to recommend to a non-nerd as a reliable workhorse?

[@PulsefiredGaming]

I suggest you do each of those three video ideas. i preordered and want to know what a trusted source does in a non sponsored video

[@nmfireman]

Can you please tell me how to turn off bed leveling on my new P1P. I can see in the Wiki that this can be done but they don't tell you how to do this

[@slowjamer]

Do all 3 Videos, this is a next gen printer at an affordable price that is well worth the 3 videos 👍👍👍

[@fuddus99]

That high pitched noise just killed it for me. That's brutal - pretty sure I'd go mentally insane with that sitting in my office.

[@doitagain2874]

I was all in until I heard that 15khz sound. That's a deal breaker for me. Now my tendinous is on the fritz, thanks a lot buddy.

[@BirgerHedman]

I would like to see the difference when using the extra big fan when printing different materials and speeds.

[@skyrider4789]

I love how the Bambu is doing exactly what it set out to do: shake up & raise the bar in the 3D printing industry. Bravo. 👏

[@derheine]

Hi Tom! Do you still own the Ultimaker 3 that you tested some years ago? I own one and am thinking about replacing it, maybe with the X1C. In your further review, could you compare the (optical) print quality of the P1P with the UM3? That would be awesome and actually really unique because every other review out there just compares to the typical bed slingers. I still think that the Ultimaker printers enjoy their reputation for a reason and are really great machines, even though the current generation put me off because of the price.

[@JohnOCFII]

To me, main thing I'd like to see is print quality vs. other printers (Ender 3, Prusa MK3) at speeds that are considered "normal" and "fast" for each of the 3 printers. So - for example, does the BambuLabs machine print quality improve (and does the noise decrease) when printing at an average of 70mm/sec, for example.

[@whatevergermany6911]

nice vid - which filament did you use for the benchy and the frog?

[@MadeWithLayers]

Extrudr PLA NX2 epic purple www.extrudr.com/de/produkte/catalogue/pla-nx2-lila_3008/

[@AndresDelapava]

Hi I suggest to see print quality vs speed and presetting or profiles it’s good from factory just slice and use or require modifications to the profiles for a good quality print

[@markuslimseth8426]

The textured PEI is not on the Carbon since it used lidar to calibrate flow and need a flat surface.

[@alienatheart]

honestly since you said that the pursa is your fav printer, I would like a see a comparison on that. since as you said, both just print out of the box with no upgrades needed.

[@BeefIngot]

About the speed claims, I actually think its somewhat unfair to dog on them for this, as they are pretty honest especially compared to other manufacturers. The printer really does hit those speeds, and you can really print and get usable results at those speeds. In fact, the regular profile does have the toolhead travel at 480mm/s. The speed benchy print (which you can get through some profile changes) is actually possible because of that. I basically think its an arms race, because companies making printers many times slower than this will put up huge numbers, so how can this company get across to customers that their printer really is faster in the real world? I think they did the most reasonable thing and they were honest with real values the printer can actually hit, even though it would require pretty extreme print settings and no one would really print at those speeds. I will note though that basically, I think that Bambulabs is like if Prusa put all their effort into making a baller printer instead of having awesome support. So they have just average support, but an awesome printer, which I think seems like a fair enough tradeoff if support is at least there, but do feel its probably the biggest area for improvement for Bambulab. This is based on being on a lot of discords, reddit etc, where I can see that at least they follow through with the warranty, but its certainly not the 247 chat support that Prusa has, though I guess with Prusa they have a much higher profit margin to squeeze that into. As for the call to action I think for the full review you should go the route of the full potential, AMS and panels included (because really its a relatively small mod and I think many people actually find that (fun bit of free marketing for Bambulab) fun) vs stock. I also think the most obvious thing that everyone wants, is a comparison between this and the Prusa Mk3s, because while its old, I dont see that as any reason not to compare them. These are really the printers real people are comparing when looking to buy right now. People want to know, should I get the slower, less capable, slightly harder to use open source printer with a long standing reputation and excellent support from a trusted company, or do I get the faster, more capable, slightly easier to use closed source printer without an established reputation from a brand new company who has mediocre support by comparison? Really I also think comparing the price point for different features is also in order. For instance, if you want to get official parts from prusa to get the same features (minus speed and fancy camera stuff) of the X1 Carbon Combo, you have to pay way more money than the combo for the prusa equivalent (with the enclosure, raspberry pi, hardened nozzle, camera etc) , but for the P1P, you just have to add a hardened nozzle and a raspberry pi. I think thats also something to keep in mind, because I actually, despite the price, think that the Carbon Combo is actually probably a really good value, especially if you want multi color prints or enclosed prints. I think the P1P on the other hand is basically about the tradeoffs above. For reference, I did actually buy (gamble buy through kickstarter) one of these (the Carbon Combo), which Im just mentioning for context. I bought it because it kicks printer manufacturers in the pants and I hope, means we can stop seeing the same lazy ender clones over and over and over again. It really is different and they put effort into addressing real problems/a real market segment of people like me who are fine paying to have a fast printer that just works. Before this came out, I was trying to decide if I was going to build a Voron, VZBot, or Ratrig (though I still might just for bigger volume and customizability).

[@tec4303]

I would acually love to see a full review of the finished version (you kow the one that comes with the android phone and the plastic panels

[@aqhan]

I'd love to see a video with both speed and quality of Ender 3 S1 Pro with the Sonic Pad versus the P1P. I have the S1 Pro and considering the Sonic Pad or the P1P if it's better.

[@sighyawn54]

i like the classic display

[@robertm8779]

PLA/PLA+/Petg Quality as fast as you can get it with and without the addon fan. Ignoring speed claims, how fast can we go and get similar quality to a bed slinger doing 60mms? Do you have a sound metere? How loud is it really at those speeds? Camera and tiny LED strip are not a big deal - Unless camera setup does not work as expected

[@Damien_Clarke]

Tom, you decide the content of your videos, it's the reason why I keep coming back! However, if you're asking... I would like to see the machine from the perspective of a common 3D printer-user (Beginner) vs hobbyist. From what you were saying in regard to the limitations, it is almost like they are saying to hobbyists, "This machine is not for you, get the enclosed, customizable, and more expensive machine. We know are used to Prusa pricing and are willing to pay more for quality, expansion and customization. We will corner the beginner-market with P1P, but you hobbyists will want the X1-Carbon. We will have both markets! Buy it now, we know you want it!" Proof? I give you the Bambu Lab A1 mini 3D Printer.

[@DomBurgess]

So, P1P or Prusa MK4?

[@neilis2405]

The screen I actually don't mind, but I'm old and have been using computers since the Commodore days. It works fine and doesn't affect the output so just something that gives the details and lets you control the machine is fine.

[@moenevanderwiel1261]

how well it can handle abrasive materials and if there is a upgrade comming for that

[@equilibrium117]

It uses the same parts as the x1 and x1c. You can toss on the all metal hot end and hardened steel nozzle from their store for pretty cheap. I have a drawer full of extra parts already. Some where the Kickstarter thank you box and some I've bought extra. The p1p may still have the pre order bonus with the free camera and aux fan, which gets it pretty close to the x1. Print side panels and you're only really missing the top/front glass and a cable chain.

[@LigneDesign]

How about a comparison to the VzBot 3d printer which prints at 2000mm/s?

[@ronsone8373]

Why didnt you get the k1 or did you refuse it?

[@venyel]

What is the name of secondary part cooling fan that Thomas is holding at 8:46?

[@thingswelike]

Bambu call it the "Bambu Auxiliary Part Cooling Fan"