5.7 vs 22 Mag: Almost Didn’t Believe It

On this episode of Ultimate Barrier Testing, we will be comparing the performance of the 5.7x28 to the 22 Magnum on 5 different targets. Each target is worth 20 points (winner takes all), for a grand total of 100 points. Whichever cartridge ends up with the highest score will be the winner. Testing was setup at 10 yards. Steel is A529 grade 55 mild steel. 1 inch = 25.4 mm. Thanks for watching!
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*These tests are meant for entertainment and educational purposes only. Do not try any of these tests at home! Always verify your setup is rated for and can safely fire any ammunition that you intend to use.
22 WMR
Federal 40 grain FMJ
Hornady 30 grain V-max
5.7x28
FN 40 gr FMJ
FN 40 gr V-max

[@terrarecon]

*@Banana Ballistics,* a humble request. Can you leave the velocity readings up for longer than a half-second? We barely can see what readings you recorded and I personally have to rewind once or twice to see which round you tested and what the readings were.

[@shermdog6969]

Pause button.😊

[@albundy7459]

Velocity he gets may differ from yours.

[@30rdmaga]

It's mildly inconvenient...just use the pause

[@LTVoyager]

Or better yet, show a summary chart for a couple seconds a la Paul Harrell.

[@terrarecon]

@@LTVoyager that's a good idea.

[@ronniekeates3349]

Best thing about 5.7x28 is that it's centerfire

[@shred1894]

Worst thing about 5.7x28 is that it's fucking expensive

[@lelandgaunt9985]

@@shred1894 Folks cried about the price when it was only $15-20 a boxx too.

[@BongicusMaximus]

.22 Magnum is also centerfire...

[@CTCAC2000]

@@BongicusMaximus no it's not, lol

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

​@@BongicusMaximus you must ve confused.

[@ExactAeration]

A knot in the wood changes the density... Also, growth ring density...

[@Urbicide]

A knot is much harder than the surrounding wood. The test cants need to free clear of any knots or other defects in order to give fair comparisons. Also, dry wood is much harder than green wood.

[@miket2120]

@@Urbicide Hard to say how wet that railroad tie cut off was. Was a bad piece to do a test on in any case. Knots, stressed grain all play a part in density and resistance to penetration. Better would have been multiple layers of plywood.

[@richardwaid4718]

Kind of a duh the reviewer doesn’t seem to ever consider.

[@jurah2o]

Hi Banana. Those "knots" on the wood are 3 times harder than the wood itself. Try with a drill, you will be suprised.

[@El_Peto]

Or a chain saw

[@analogludite9575]

Exactly what I was thinking. Should try a pentration test on fork wood or burl vs straight grain.🤔😉

[@ordinaryman1904]

The knot completely skewed the results of that test.

[@dementious]

I am a professional axe thrower and I can say, YES this is so true, especially with treated pine like some venues like to use. It only takes a few bad throws hitting those knots to dull wherever the axe blade hits, and you'll barely do any damage to the knot.

[@saucyfpv8928]

same i wanna see it with no knots

[@VTPSTTU]

Thanks for the video. If the price of 5.7x28 ammunition ever drops to .22 WMR prices, the .22 WMR may go extinct. Until that happens, the differences are more than many people claim. The .22 WMR seems to be an ideal cartridge for bolt-action hunting rifles for small game. The bullets are heavy enough to keep energy for a longer distance, and the bullet and rifle combinations seem to optimized for accurate shooting. For someone looking for a rifle for small game hunting with a little more power than a .22LR can deliver, the .22 WMR is the obvious choice. The 5.7x28 is a centerfire caliber and will therefore always be more reliable, particularly when fed from a box magazine. As your gel test demonstrated, hitting an attacker with a .22 WMR bullet is going to produce respectable stopping power. Even from a handgun, this caliber has a good chance of stopping an attack. However, most people don't want to rely on a rimfire cartridge for self-defense. Pistols and rifles fed from a box magazine are the favorites for most self-defense uses. That factor will favor the 5.7x28. The 5.7x28 was designed with a little extra power for military usage, and that power might be nice in some self-defense situations. A precision rifle in 5.7x28 would be a fun rifle for small game hunting too, but no one is going to bother to make this rifle. From a revolver platform, the 5.7x28 would still be a legitimate self-defense round, but I doubt that anyone will ever make a revolver for this caliber.

[@michaellewis5624]

I will stick with 22mag. 5.7 ammo is way too expensive!

[@melissasmess2773]

Ruger LC carbine entered chat 💬

[@roberts111007]

@@melissasmess2773 beat me to it, love my LCC

[@georgejenkins7763]

I have always wondered how a 50ae would perform out or a rifle. I think that would be interesting.

[@VTPSTTU]

@@georgejenkins7763 That would be interesting. If it functioned well in an AR-type of platform, it could be an interesting self-defense round, particularly against large animals. In some ways, it might be like a lighter version of .50 Beowulf. In a bolt-action rifle, it might be a good hunting round in thick brush. Maybe hog hunting would be a good use.

[@christopherbishop4927]

I would seriously love to see you run 5.7 vs 22tcm

[@NC-xk1eg]

Your work & efforts are greatly appreciated. Good video.

[@josephpacchetti5997]

If the barrel length was 5" for both cartridges, first off is a .22-WMR was designed for a rifle, and in short barrels, much of the powder is unburned and results in a power loss , the fact that 5.7"x 28" is a bottle neck cartridge, with high velocity, Is a bit of a no brainier, don't you think?

[@caseyb1346]

bottle neck cartridges prefer rifle barrels too. More so then straight walls in fact. 5.7 out of a rifle rivals 5.56 velocity. Though it would be neat to see a .22 wmr out of a rifle vs 5.7 out of a pistol. Since wmr rifles are common and cheap but 5.7 rifles are rare/expensive.

[@ClarenceCochran-ne7du]

At Civilian Loadings, 5.7 x 28 is basically .22 WMR +P The big question is the Cost Analysis, and with that it doesn't really work that much better. The only real advantage is the more positive ignition

[@BuffRANGE]

My Brother in Christ, had I known you were doing this video I would have gladly sent you some of the good stuff :D

[@teancumsjavelin363]

No reason he can't do it again with the good stuff

[@Adam-nv9zo]

Send him the good stuff. I'd gladly watch another comparison with different ammo.

[@bobbie4862]

Amen. Some Vanguard or Elite.

[@teancumsjavelin363]

A little T6 or Dragon fang would be nice. Maybe some S4M, or do they not make that anymore?

[@DIYDad1]

The man, the legend, the final word on everything 5.7 🙌👌

[@samcommander4249]

As a carpenter for 30 years this year I can tell you that spot of the 4 by 4 is different density where the knot is that wood by those knots is a lot harder to

[@terryfyock8889]

I’d like to see the 5.7 -vs- 17WSM! I think that’d be great!

[@Lawraven]

I stumbled across your video and the first thought I had was that my playback speed was too slow. Then I realized, your voice is just that deeeeep.

[@linkbond08]

Yes this man's "puberty" dropped extra hard ;)

[@drrocketman7794]

Sulfur hexafluoride voice

[@markruhland3035]

Or he has a high voice and uses an audio filter :)

[@clintlansdell9505]

Ray Romano

[@aamry]

Sounds like Jim Dickens from Letterkenny

[@yodaddy82daddy70]

I love both my 22 mag and 5.7. Cost is the biggest difference. Both are tack drivers. The 5.7 carries energy out further and has less drop than the magnum. The 5.7 was originally designed to be a armor piercing round. They wanted a smaller, lighter better penetrating round than the 9mm.

[@PAS2010D]

Mine does penetrate, just gotta get the right rounds it's worth

[@chrisrogers5974]

Can you actually buy the armor piecing rounds for the 5.7? If I am correct, only FN makes them?

[@TurboTaco2JZ]

@chrisrogers5974 basic research will show that there are several vendors with offerings that defeat body armor out of the handgun and you can have it shipped to your door.

[@Craig52-zq1bt]

What a joke.

[@chrisrogers5974]

@@TurboTaco2JZ I did research and almost every article pointed back to the FN ammo as the best and the standard.

[@Paulster2]

For your first test with the wood, make sure there aren't any knots in it as the knots are harder than the regular wood. I saw in that 6x6 piece, there was a substantial one running through the middle of it which could affect penetration ... (that's what she said).

[@safaricartvideos]

Thank you for not rambling, I appreciate your efficiency, and humor.

[@ampdrum1]

I’m good with 22 mag for price and what not. Thanks for making my lunch break fun.

[@trenttaylor3838]

The Flame Thrower commercial was fucking AWESOME !!

[@jeffdrew625]

Seriously! Close combat: who wants a flamethrower vs .22magnum? ☝️

[@markej4801]

Def LOL

[@marcuschauvin7039]

The real test wil be these 2 catridges in rifles!

[@wymonwatson1309]

If you did 5.7 pistol vs 22 mag rifle, they would be about the same, otherwise in an equal playing field, the 5.7 is of course more powerful

[@PassivePortfolios]

22 mag wins on cost, availability, variety of ammo and cheap rifles.

[@wymonwatson1309]

@@PassivePortfolios I agree, for the cost of 5.7 your way better off with a 223 in a rifle platform.

[@PassivePortfolios]

@@wymonwatson1309 Totally.

[@taronbrown7665]

22 mag has about double the energy from a 20in barrel so itd be intresting

[@markchapman2585]

Your channel is awesome. I never shot a 5.7 before so i can't say anything good or bad. But for the 22 it did really good out of a handgun and like you said it's cheaper.

[@neccron9956]

Note that you were using the FN-197 (5.7 blue tip) which is the less effective round for penetration (steel/soft armor). You will get better results with the FN-195 (or the more difficult version to find, FN-198 - green tip).

[@Game-The-System]

I'd like to see both of those tested also. Even the fact that there are different bullet options for the 5.7 (besides different weights) makes the 5.7 more appealing to me.

[@gullahgeechee2699]

40 gr round basically but those 27 gr haul ass! goes through car doors

[@backcountry164]

Just came to count the comments about knots in wood...

[@marksanney2088]

I always find it interesting how older ammo concepts come full circle from proposals from decades earlier to become the newest ammunition flavor. 👍🏻🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸👍🏻

[@ericdavis1438]

Yes. Just like the way .357 Sig was all the rage for a while. It didn't do a damned thing different from .38 Super Automatic in those "other" 1911's from days gone by. Nothing new under the sun. Want the old timer or "Fudd" equivalent of (maybe better than) 5.7x28???? Take a look at .22 K Hornet, loaded with pistol powders.

[@jonathanrogers9961]

As always, thank you for the quality content!

[@Gwydion_Wolf]

We were outside in the field a few months back.. i had just gotten my Ruger-57 and we had some old coper-bottom pots/pans we were throwing away / recycling... so we decided to test the 5.7 on them with the fn sr197sr rounds. They went through the bottom of the pots/pans like paper XD

[@garychandler119]

0:29 USING A WOODEN BLOCK WITH KNOT IS NOT A FAIR TEST. KKOTS ARE HARDER THAN REGULAR WOOD. CERTAIN PARTS OF TREES ARE HARDER THAN OTHERS. Together a true test yor target needs to be equal. If not your test would be useless or fake. Causing you to buy inferior ammo.. purpose of test is to determine best ammo.

[@warbuzzard7167]

Oh, good grief - relax.

[@md_vandenberg]

@@warbuzzard7167 Some people are incapable of live and let live.

[@md_vandenberg]

Gary, you're acting like this test is the only validation for these rounds. Lighten up, Francis.

[@WildWestRaider]

If there are often knots in wood and varying degrees of density depending on the type of wood, I'd say it's a pretty fair test. You can't control what type of cover you might need to shoot through in a home invasion, for a real life example.

[@K9River]

Knots make a HUGE difference. They also make the best firewood.

[@patrickc7873]

Right to the point and a very quick answer. Thank you!

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

Good info, really enjoyed, thanks

[@swedeboy8301]

There is a difference between the two rounds. 22 Mag is .36 per round while the 5.7 is 1.20 per round. Is the marginal difference worth 3 times the price of the 5.7? The 22 mag hollow point while it may not have the penetration of either rounds tested, the wound channel in gel might be a bit wider.

[@313comput]

If youre paying $1.20 per round for 5.7 youre getting ripped off

[@ST19859]

@@313comput That may be on the high end but he isnt too far off, 5.7 is a rip off

[@313comput]

@@ST19859 that's for extra premium ammo, which is expensive in any caliber. I feed my 5.7s. For .46 per on average

[@danemaui8259]

$35.00 , box of fifty. That is unless you're going for armor piercing green tips. Those are spendy, But you don't go to the range shooting green tips. At least I don't.

[@JCL43]

Remember the grain of the wood varies in density.

[@daven953]

Especially since the 22 mag was fighting many Knotts going in different directions. The 5.7 last through shot didn't go through Knotts.

[@devonholbrook3603]

Test that 7.62x25 now that's a round buddy !

[@Sheppard2030]

Great data, sir!

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

I've seen slowmo of what a Sharp Hardened Steel Point that has been added to a Hollow Point does. Not just a Penetration of the Target, but to the Hollow Point as well. When fixed into the Hollow Point right, the Sharp Hardened Steel Point pushes back into the Hollow Point causing it to really Flatten not Mushrooming, but actually Flatten much like a Coin. This Flatten effect on Bullets has been dubbed a Minting effect, or Minting, Minted, or a Bullet Mint, or Mint Bullets. Take your pick it doesn't matter, the effect is the same.

[@orozcocris93]

should have used speer short barrel defense for the 22 mag. still slow but would be a bullet design for pistol vs a bullet design for pistol

[@11SpeedFreek11]

Wouldn't using the torch on the gel before testing allow for better visibility of the action?

[@brandenfiles5050]

Can't believe this is the first time I've seen your content. Well you've got a new subscriber now cuz its great stuff you make!!!

[@coppernicklaus245]

Excellent content brother. Thanks for doing these comparisons. I'd still choose 5.7 if i had to, but your tests suggest that 22wmr is not terrible for what it is.

[@HalcyonGames]

I would like to see this test with rifles instead of handguns.

[@bumbarossdundahae6312]

5.7 out of a longer barell is spicy it hits targets way harder

[@redfaux74]

I've been considering the 5.7 pistol for a few months. But I've never seen the ammo available. I'm still not convinced. But great video. ❤ The flamethrower on the other hand?!? I want one!!! 🎈🥳🎈

[@Game-The-System]

I never really considered 5.7 as a pistol round...at least not first choice for personal defense. As a carbine or a rifle round, it makes a whole lot more sense. The round really is fun to shoot out of those. Now I would consider a micro or possibly even a sub-compact for EDC (if they ever make one of those) because of the capacity options.

[@redfaux74]

@Game-The-System - I agree. I've only considered them as another 2nd option. Maybe to keep in the vehicle. If it's only 30% better than the 22 mag then I'm more thinking to not get it. The weight of the 22lr and mag to carry is the best option. I had heard the 5.7 was good for something specific and that was the reason I was considering it. I like the bigger hole approach. My EDC is the 10mm S&W 2.0. I also want something that will down a mountain lion as we have a ton of those here in the mid west. We're starting to see bear again and there have been a few sightings of large wolf. But my choice is primarily for the 2 legged predators. Winter or summer I want it down and out.

[@IRishbuck58]

Love all of videos keep up the great work. You probably could sing Bass in a Quartet lol

[@harrygrimley4352]

Very good tests. Thanks for sharing this with us.

[@dangingerich2559]

The big advantages to the 5.7X28 are the center fire and lack of a rim. 22 mag has issues in semiautomatics due to the rim causing jamming, and the rim fire primer makes it less reliable. The fact 5.7X28 is more powerful helps on top of that, but is only a third place factor.

[@user-tb9rw7dh2t]

Right on the money. 👍 I love the 22lr and the 22mag, but I can't count how many times I've had a dud misfire for whatever reasons and had to struggle to get it out and another round chambered. Example; Ruger 10/22, I love Ruger pistols and some of their rifles, but the fact that aftermarket companies and Ruger itself offer upgraded pins, springs, seers and drop in trigger units for up to a $100 and more is downright shameful. Why should I have to spend even more money on the best selling semi auto rifle just to make sure it fires consistently and has a more competitive trigger pull? I'm moving away from rim fire cartridges more and more all the time, because of this monopoly marketing and poor firing rim ammo that requires a hammer and a chisel to set it off. Same issue with several brands of weak springs in magazines not properly chambering a round.

[@Bob_Adkins]

I can remember having several misfires on .22LR, but don't remember having a single one on a .22 WMR. Just saying, I know rimfires must be less reliable. Now, Federal makes a round they tout as a home defense round, seems like they would have tighter quality control.

[@NoWr2Run]

@@Bob_Adkins .22 LR Yes Misfires .22 Mag. I don't ever remember any either.

[@ST19859]

@@Bob_Adkins Exactly, I have never had a failure on 22 mag, they are every bit as reliable as centerfire

[@Bob_Adkins]

@@ST19859 It would be interesting to know the true stats on that. If you get a dud every 2000 rounds, I wouldn't be afraid to use them for home defense. 1 every 1000 rounds would leave me a tiny bit worried. But I know I've shot well over 2000 rounds of .22 WMR without a dud that I can remember.

[@evilreddog]

would still love a test on the 7.5FK BRNO round

[@davidjernigan8161]

It would be if the ammo was not $ 90.00 a box if they have it along with 2k for the gun.

[@angry_zergling]

Ooooh I remember reading about that one. The cartridge was very interesting.

[@xxxlonewolf49]

That thing is the closest to rifle effects from a pistol I've seen, so far.

[@surevaliance7940]

Don’t overestimate his budget!

[@adamsbyknoll4809]

Exothermic man's super power is that his voice is an octave lower than yours! Great video, theyre always fun, keep up the good work

[@bunshapiro9091]

Now that's how you freaking do an advertisement. Did not skip. I might actually buy.

[@Adam-nv9zo]

Great video, as always. 🍌

[@reeyuh526]

I always like to remind people who say 5.7 and 22 WMR are similar, that for 22 WMR to achieve a similar velocity, its usually from a rifle length barrel, as the manufacturer stated velocities are from rifle barrels. Manufacturer velocites for 5.7 are typically from pistol or SBR barrels so yeah....

[@Game-The-System]

Its similar for 5.7. There is no way the powder completely burns in a barrel

[@reeyuh526]

@@Game-The-System the 5.7 was designed for use in the FN Five-Seven pistol. Why would FN design a round to not work effectively out of the pistol it was meant to be used in? Especially if it was meant to defeat light body armor. It might not work well in a barrel less than 5 inches, but 5 to 10 inches should be its prime.

[@Bob_Adkins]

@@Game-The-System The powder doesn't burn well in the .22 WMR either. It makes a huge fireball in pistols at night. Both are better in longer barrels.

[@highspeed9518]

Because 22 mag was literally designed to be in a rifle lol

[@licustoms]

The FBI ballistics gel works differently from the clear gel. You would see different results as the FBI gel has a lot more nit-picky things you have to do to make it and prepare it, but gives much more accurate results when compared with... say... a flesh creature of either bipedal or quadruped kind. It's true that it's more difficult to film the FBI gel due to its' color, it requires being calibrated at a certain temperature with a steel bb from an air rifle at a certain FPS before being used. It would just give more accurate results to both wound channels and projectile distance traveled. Anywho~ It's a fun topic to test and see the results, it's no wonder you're doing so well (on top of your quick camera cuts, chapter snippets, and humor). Much appreciated for you to take the time to do all that you do here. Cheers

[@ExtremeSquared]

One of the more taboo defenses of the 5.7 is its relatively successful use in a 2009 terrorist attack where a single individual used it to stop multiple able-bodied people who were charging the shooter.

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

Fort Hood?

[@ExtremeSquared]

@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Yep.

[@calangel]

Fort Hood seems to be the only positive example of 5.7 efficacy. One of the criticisms of 5.7 is its lackluster performance with law enforcement agencies. I believe the event that got the 10/22 banned in Canada involved a mall shooting where everyone was killed who was shot with the 22LR.

[@ExtremeSquared]

​@@calangel Yes, but it is one real data point out of very few for 5.7, compared to nearly every other handgun cartridge. Probably 99.9% of opinion regarding 5.7 effectiveness is no more than internet forum orthodoxy.​

[@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs]

I'd carry it for SD if I had to

[@tonywhitburn]

Did I just watch an ad for a FREAKING FLAMETHROWER?????

[@arthurshingler2025]

No.... a Charcoal starter....

[@arthurshingler2025]

No. A Charcoal starter...

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

No, you watched the world's best ad for a freakin flamethrower.

[@bubbaray575]

Ot was a winter snow removal tool.

[@tsi87supr60]

Don't underestimate the 22 mag. It can perform as a hunting and a self defense round. I myself like both rounds. As I'd use both for defense and hunting

[@jackbishop8610]

Well it's cheaper for one.

[@cobyeaston2711]

Thats my main hog/coyote round now

[@mikemchugh949]

I agree 100%. So many underestimate the 22 mag especially for self defense. My everyday carry is the new S&W with 30 round magazines filled with hollow points and full metal jackets. Velocities range from 1600 to 2200 fps. The 22 mag is probably the most versatile caliber on the market today.

[@empireoflizards]

I believe that .22 mag was designed to work best in a rifle and 5.7 specifically for a pistol(?)

[@wa1ufo]

I agree. The Mossad sometimes uses 22 weapons.

[@jtallday31]

Great test bud.

[@elijahspackman7105]

The flame thrower skit was funny as hell

[@kenperkins7269]

Why not use the high velocity 22 mag for the entire test?

[@rc391995]

I thought the same

[@maxhunter3574]

Well, I'm a little bit happier with my 5.7x28 purchase now 😊

[@dburnside2554]

Great work buddy

[@johnsanko4136]

Now that AAC is cranking out 5.7, it's not really that much more expensive than .22 Win mag. But it sells out a lot because it's the cheapest on the market right now.

[@hughjunit2503]

5.7 is 50$ a box of 50 rounds. I pick up 22 mag all day for 13$ for a 50 pack. 😂😂😂 same cost my ass

[@nohandlesavailable677]

I don't know where you paying $1 round, but you getting ripped off.

[@hughjunit2503]

@@nohandlesavailable677 cheapest 5.7 i see is 40$ a box.

[@d.mat.zero6525]

I saw that! After PSA made their 5.7 AAC (who is owned by PSA) started making the round more accessible making it cheaper. It still is pricey, especially when you can get 9mm at .24-.30 per round. But 5.7 is about .5-.7 per round and getting cheaper. Gonna have to get me a PSA 5.7

[@johnsanko4136]

@@hughjunit2503If you're paying $50 a box for 5.7 then it's your fault for willingly grabbing your ankles for whoever is taking you for a ride. Even back when it wasn't being made by AAC/PSA, I had been buying red box green tip hollow points for $25 a box, and fiocci blue box ammo for $20 a box. American Eagle could be found for $17 a box if you weren't concerned about the issues AE had.

[@jaredhodgins2078]

I think the 5.7 is an underrated cartridge personally

[@jacksonnra1856]

Hyper overrated.

[@doomguy584]

I want to see a decent rifle made for it seems nobody has jumped on the idea of using it for a varmint gun yet

[@glandhound]

I always wonder who does these ratings, I try to search for them but all I found are personal opinions.

[@garrettabell4741]

I believe out of a rifle length barrel the 22 mag closes the gap but still not as good as the 5.7 but how much more does the 5.7 cost?

[@ronalddunne3413]

Yeah, Midway! Thanks for sponsoring. Good to do business with, IME...

[@schlc77]

I'm glad you mentioned the price difference. The way I see it you're not getting much more performance out of the 5.7 for the price. So I'll stick with a 22 Mag.

[@BigHarryBalzac]

Unless you have .22 WMR ammo made specifically for handguns, it's not a fair comparison. Most of it's made for rifle length barrels.

[@Game-The-System]

The 5.7 gets much better at barrel lengths of at least 10 inches (also).

[@BigHarryBalzac]

@@Game-The-SystemTrue, the ballistics are better from a 10.4 inch barrel FN P90. But most .22 WMR ammo is developed in a test barrel with a length of 24 inches. A pistol like a Walther WMP .22 WMR with a 4.5 inch barrel isn't going to get anywhere near the same performance with rifle ammo as a 24 inch barrel. But since 5.7x28mm ammo is made for PDWs AND pistols, it still does well in shorter barrels.

[@petedavid9946]

Dude! What size hoppers do you have? Maybe we can all pitch in and get you something other than crocs to wear! 😂

[@Raz.C]

*@ Banana Ballistics* Another good thing about doing a ballistics target test with the 22 hornet would be that YOU would have the ONLY footage of that on the whole internet!! Seriously, I don't think there's ANY footage out there of the .22 Hornet fired into ballistics gel! I'd love to see it here...

[@thebeardjuice858]

Go Exothermic-Man!!!

[@glandhound]

He makes me endothermic.

[@jimjones395]

The knot in the wood nullified the result

[@joeblowe3180]

What about the gelatin test? That's not nullified... no knots there

[@johnnybond7773]

Great comparison! Where the 5.7 really shines is with the P90 submachine gun! 50 rounds of pure goodness in every magazine!

[@bobbyshaftoe]

I'd love to see you do this comparisson (well, just the 5.7) with the Tokarev !

[@randyhymas9013]

Yes, the 5.7 performs better than the 22 Mag., but it costs 5 times as much.

[@darylobey8867]

I sen a box of 5-7 run 60$

[@tfeltmat2903]

It’s usually $25-35 a box - depending on the type of ammo you see.

[@Boomhower89]

Still a glorified 22 mag. A little more powerful but not enough for the cost increase

[@Turbogto_guy]

What’s glorified about it? It’s almost 100ft lbs stronger. It’s better in every way. If the 5.7 is a glorified .22 mag, what is a 5.56?

[@Boomhower89]

@@Turbogto_guy it’s a round that is not needed. Very few guns made for it and a 22 mag is a varmit gun or target gun. Not really a need for another round with this setup. To small for conceal carry and to expensive to buy a few hundred rounds to plink with. As for varmit guns already have small calibers and more powerful calibers if a 22lr or mag isn’t enough. That being said I love guns of all different designs and calibers. So bring them on.

[@Turbogto_guy]

@@Boomhower89 have you ever shot one? It’s a very good inbetween caliber between the .22 mag and .223. They make ar15 platform rifles chambered in 5.7. I have a ruger 5.7 with a Romeo zero elite on it. It’s a super smooth shooter and very accurate and flat shooting. It stays in my truck for self defense. Trust me, you don’t want to get hit by one. Magazine holds 24 rounds or 29 rounds. I conceal carry a ruger max .380

[@Boomhower89]

You got me. I have never even seen one. Just going by ballistic charts. Guessing it is loaded with powder made for pistols? You are correct I would not want to get shot by one. My fat ass doesn’t want to get shot with a 22 short lol. May God bless the both of us with never having the need to HAVE to use our CC and only shoot them for fun. @@Turbogto_guy

[@glandhound]

@@Boomhower89 It's an intermediate cartridge between 5.56 and 9 mm. It was meant to be used by vehicle crews and it was very much needed. The choices were a lot slimmer in the eighties.

[@frankcastle4435]

Banana your a wild man. You look just like this dude in my old frat. Have you already did a video on 9mm vs 40sw? And 45acp vs 9mm?

[@blutorlz3]

22 mag ammo loadings vary so much in performance when fired from a handgun. Used to have one of those tiny NAA revolvers and most loadings threw the bulk of their propellant onto the ground in front of you… Finding the right loading goes a long way to getting good velocities.

[@woodrow1037]

Glad to see you wearing your OSHA approved Crocs. I would hate to see you drop the steel sleds on your feet.

[@Oilburnerful]

Considering the number of misfires and jams I get with my 22 magnum pistol and the flawless function I get out of my 5.7*28 pistol. Yeah I think it's worth the extra money.

[@blackhawk7r221]

If you have the Kel-Tec, send it off. They have a free fix now.

[@MrGraveBait]

sounds like a problem with the pistol

[@ImpendingJoker]

The 5.7mm like the 5.56mm is designed to tumble to cause more internal damage and an unpredictable wound channel. The higher velocity from a pistol from what is essentially a rifle round, is actually pretty amazing. FN did a great job with making this round more mainstream. It's also the choice of Third Echelon when exercising 5th Freedom.

[@ajtorres9939]

this guy would take gold doing some josh turner karaoke 😂

[@nicholaspiscitelli7685]

Common Sense will tell you The 57. Will outperform the twenty two mag .

[@Maddad_39]

2-3 times the price for 3% more performance, I'll pass, plus walmart has quality 22 mag in stock.

[@robarmstrong5404]

way more than 3%, and centerfire reliability vs rim unreliability.

[@tobylopez445]

great videos, thanks.

[@ryansams9500]

@Banana Ballistics, would you consider redoing this test with the rifles in these chamberings. If possible throw the .17 HMR into the mix?

[@dankdaze42069]

It's really more of a glorified 17 WHR 🤔...wmr whatever You know what I mean... Fun fact 22 mag was actually being used for a prototype bullpup arm mounted submachine firearm (saying that way to avoid KZbin freak out)

[@Turbogto_guy]

But it’s not even close to .17 caliber. 5.56 is .22 caliber and 5.7 is……bigger than that.

[@angry_zergling]

@@Turbogto_guy 5.56 and 5.7 use the same diameter projectiles. The naming difference is just that. It's a marketing thing - like .357 Magnum and .38 are the same diameter.

[@WayStedYou]

@@Turbogto_guyno its not they are both .224 diameter

[@michaelharter7486]

Both my 22 pistol and rifle have issues with misfires pretty often. The Rock 5.7 that I have has not had one misfire (that I can recall) after a little over 500 rounds. They are all fun to shoot but, if I want something with a tiny bit more UMPH I have to go with the 5.7. Just the magazine capacity alone is a huge selling point.

[@RKYBlues]

The Rock is sweet and runs flawlessly. Glad 5.7 price is dropping finally. Got mine with 10 mags. Now I can load and go.

[@ST19859]

22LR or 22 Mag ?? Big difference, i ve never had a misfire in mag, but pretty often in LR

[@denvera1g1]

Wow i am actually surprized at how close these are. I wonder if a carbine length barrel will(measurably) close the gap for the 22WMR

[@Rusonekox9]

Hi first thanks for the video. And second. I would like to suggest comparing the 5.7 against the 17 hmr. As to why: in your previous video you put 17hmr vs the 22mag and the 17hmr won so I'm wondering how these two would match up against each other. Thanks again 😊

[@thekraken1173]

What about a 243 vs 308?

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

I agree. Love both. 243 is flater shooting past 100 yards but the 308 has the kinetic energy.

[@30rdmaga]

I'd rather see 243 vs 6.5 creedmore

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

@@30rdmaga nice or 6mm cm and prc

[@STdoubleDs]

Babe, wake up. Banana just uploaded.

[@formdoggie5]

If that's not euphemistic code -- you're doing it wrong.

[@scottg1962]

22 250 swift

[@timjones147]

If he’s doing barrier test and he still has the sand, at least we can sleep through that section. Let her know.

[@williamhornsey7302]

I enjoyed your video!

[@Soederlund]

When you shoot at the sand box, how do you ensure that any bullet after the first one doesn't hit an existing bullet inside of the sandbox and therefore doesn't manage to push through the box? 🤔

[@steelman7171]

Try using a 6x6 without a giant knot in it

[@rustyshackleford2723]

They both good, buy both...

[@duke7052]

I'd be interested to see how the 5.7 would perform in a rifle? Could be a decent varmint round if such a thing exists

[@scark00]

Dude I’d love to see a test between ArmsCor 22 TCM and the 5.7x28. Food for thought.

[@briantruxtonjr.6108]

Knots stopped it.

[@SaepeNeglecta]

5.7 is actually a cheaper 22 hornet cartridge

[@peternorton5648]

I looked up the price on a box of 22 Hornet the other day and had sticker shock. They wanted close to $100 for one box. I realize that there isn’t much demand for it but wow!

[@bighitriders]

you have a voice for radio, incredible

[@fjb4932]

Better a voice, than face... ☆

[@ferebeefamily]

Thank you for the video.

[@russellkeeling4387]

I thought of buying a 5.7x28 until I priced them. I can buy a handful of .22 mags for the price of one 5.7. I'll pass.

[@johnanderson3405]

The 5.7 is very impressive. Unfortunately it’s not impressive enough to justify the cost. I’ll just squeeze 3 quick shots of 22 mag and still have change left over. I hope to see the 5.7 come down in price with the more popular it becomes. Good stuff as always sir! 😊

[@Isometrix116]

What 5.7 are you comparing to what .22wmr? 5.7 is maybe 1.5~2 .22wmr in current market. Compared to 5.56 or 10mm, 5.7 isn't really too bad. For reference, fiocchi 5.7 is around $0.40 while .22wmr is $0.22~0.25 usually. I rarely see .22wmr under $0.20.

[@johnanderson3405]

@@Isometrix116 Well, that may be true now. I was basing my comment on the last time I was comparing the rounds. I was considering a 5.7 a little over a year ago but haven’t checked recently. I assumed that it didn’t drop in price that fast. I suppose it will keep going down for a while. The more popular it becomes, the more affordable it gets to a degree.

[@motorgearhead]

Really enjoy your videos! Have you thought about testing the 22 TCM against the 5.7? I think it will equal of exceed the 5.7. Would be an interesting test!

[@glandhound]

Love y our test bench. One thing though and this is mainly about my autism about specificity, the 5.7 was designed to be fired from a 10" barrel, which makes it pretty much impossible to performance test the way it was meant to be used. It's not (designed to be) a pistol cartridge, just something you can also shoot from a pistol. Anyway, I'd take the .22 Mag because you have a lot of options on what kind of a pistol you want to have.

[@g2rich]

Now fire both out of 16" barreled carbines and you will see a dramatic different in velocities, while the 5.7 was specifically designed for use in a pistol length barrel, the .22WMR was designed and for the most part is loaded by manufacturers for use in barrels from 18" to 22" which means the slower burning powder used in the .22WMR give a much higher velocity out of a rifle versus a pistol.

[@pinkpocket2731]

The 5.7 was designed for the P90 with a 10.5" barrel. the pistol(93-98) came after they finished the P90(86-90) and 5.7(86-93).