BANDING OLED'S FATAL FLAW? NOT BURN IN . TECH THERAPY

[@SubZero8007]

Nice! Watching a video demonstrating an OLED flaw, while also seeing the DSE of my LCD on the test footage :D Buying a TV is picking your poison, BUT I have to say that nowadays every decent TV is looking really good. A couple of years ago we had too dark OLEDs, no local dimming on LCDs (also edge lit garbage), no HDR, no 4k... I just enjoy todays TVs! My wife isnt perfect either, but I still love her... kinda :P

[@aeroplaneenthusiast]

Lmao 😂

[@chashint1]

Tread lightly when talking about SWMBO.

[@stopthefomo]

CAN'T WAIT ... I have 3 OLED TVs in my studio right now, so 3 fatalities?!

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

as usual you are a funny man FOMO

[@sinhnguyen8135]

“Finish Him!” “Flawless Victory!”

[@brandonshiggins]

Great video. I have a 83" C1 and have noticed vertical banding especially with panning shots since I purchased it and was wondering if it was defective. You seem to be the only KZbinr mentioning this and I appreciate that. It gives us peace of mind knowing that it should be expected and not a defective panel.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Unfortunately just part of the technology my friend but it's not visible often. Thank you so much for watching

[@UnchainedMelody86]

I had pretty bad banding on my 65 inch LG C1 earlier this year. So much so that I had to return it to costco. I first noticed the banding while viewing a panning shot in foggy conditions in The Crown using Dolby Vision on Netflix. I just picked up a 65 inch C2 and its a very clean panel with very minimal banding.

[@brandonlee7382]

Thanks for pointing this out, new oled owners will really appreciate this

[@Bklynblaze1]

Hey Brian..congrats on 20K+ subscribers. Well deserved! Here’s to many more. 🍻

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Thank you so much Blaze! I appreciate you being here all this time.

[@Bklynblaze1]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY I’m in the hunt for a 65 or 77” for my basement..depending on my sitting distance when I finalize my layout. You provide the best content to help make my decision. I appreciate work you put in. I’ll always be around to support you but I’ll hate the FOMO when I’m done searching for a tv. Lol

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

@@Bklynblaze1 much love my friend

[@bobblair6896]

Really like what you're doing with your channel. Keep up the excellent work. As for OLED's fatal flaw I believe that as long as you (and the other youtube influencers) are forced to watch their TVs in special conditions of a darkened room then the real fatal flaw of OLEDs is brightness, not banding.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Great comment Bob! Thank you so much for watching!

[@delislice101]

Listen man.. I can't thank you enough for this video. You're absolutely right and just telling it like it is. I have a 55" LG C1 Oled. And I mess with settings chasing a perfect picture since I got it. The problem I deal with is some banding, but mostly judder. I'm no professional but I navigate very well with settings. I make adjustments all the time and not enjoying my TV the way I should be. I was going to go get the 65" C2 hoping judder would be none existing but I doubt it. I just wish I could have a panel with nice smooth movement, and not go nearly black with the auto dimming feature in 25 mins of content. Auto dimming should disable if you protectively keep Oled brightness below 85 since you significantly lower risk of burn in. But regardless you're right! I'm constantly looking for imperfections and not enjoying what is absolutely amazing about this tv.. I needed to hear this. I've been driving myself crazy. I feel a new appreciation for my TV. I need to enjoy. My settings now are really close to perfect. There's some judder I just can't get rid of. But hey these things exist and no panel is perfect.

[@adamh8876]

De-Judder: 3, De-Blur: 0 is the sweet spot for me.

[@paschalispaschalides8068]

I don't play games, but I see banding in the 5-15% grey test patterns and in panning shots in mostly dark scenes in movies. This is on the 83A90J. I've been told that all OLEDs at those sizes have this problem to a degree so not worth it doing anything about it. It was a surprise to me hearing in this video that even if test patterns are perfect banding may show up in content.

[@pioneer2321]

Banding is on every wrgb oled panel.

[@joggometer5393]

To complete it: Banding is present on every OLED panel (WRGB/QD). It is related to the voltage-related control of the OLED pixels, which are very sensitive to low voltage (close to black). The content shown here and similar only makes the banding of the panel clearly visible. It's not the content that's to blame.

[@Kevin-jn7ut]

Thank you for this video. I have a 77 inc CX and it does band, though not as much as the H9G I had. The CX is my first OLED, tbh I can live with that short coming than blooming. I also noticed that sometimes my picture in Non 4k content looks somewhat grainy but I’m glad you explained why it does this.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Excellent comment Kevin! Thank you so much for watching!

[@Kevin-jn7ut]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Anytime, Brian. I actually ordered the HT9As because of your review. How have they been treating you so far?

[@craigosterberg5045]

Thanks for the video and the banding lesson.

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

hey Brian I hope all is well with you my friend.

[@ryanw8664]

Brian, THANK YOU. I know this video is old, but I may have just watched it in the nick of time. I just scheduled a return on my 83” G2 because I noticed banding on a grey test pattern (around 30% oddly enough). It’s pretty light and not noticeable except sometimes when panning in dark scenes. There are definitely big verticals blocks/bars on the test slide but again, very light. Do you think this qualifies as normal/acceptable? Seems like most people see banding at 5-10% (which I do not) as opposed to 30%. Would love to get your opinion on this before the TV guys come and grab this thing in two days!

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Tbh I'll take any flaw of oled over lcd. I can never and I mesn never go back to led. My biggest pet peeve is blooming in the black letterbox bars. I just can't stand it anything else I don't mind. But yeah I prefer deep crushed blacks over lifted/blooming in blacks. I do like something I between but yeah I just can't do it anymore. I even got my hands on my older q8fn. Beautiful tv but I don't enjoy it the way I used to.

[@dave2094]

Same for me, after trying to get a clean OLED last year it was hard to go back to LED. Now that I have an OLED in my office I can't go back to LED. I can for a bedroom tv only because I never watch movies or game in there but yeah for main tv, has to be OLED now.

[@NexGenTek]

I'm back and forth I can deal with a little bit of blooming if it's extremely bright like 2500nits and 800full screen because my eyes are focused on the picture so much. I do appreciate perfect blacks more.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

@@NexGenTek I gotcha man, yeah all preference at the end of the day. You like what you like it happens. I remember when I was still back and forth until I started really realizing my preference when I would dial in settings that's when I really realized what I could do with oled. Also without sacrificing the color like some would think it does. I love deeper darker richer images. Probably why oled fits me best tbh. I even like undertaking at times so yeah I'm a but different with that one. Like timed everyone says oh this or that's to dim. I'm usually the one sitting there going ahh no that's perfect that's some depth haha.

[@Miskatonik]

IDK what else are you talking about, but I have an LG OLED E9 at only 35% Oled Light (SDR) and after 2 years it has permanent Burn-In on the top and bottom of the screen. I use it daily as an all-purpose PC monitor, but I've been pretty cautious and content is normally always changing between desktop, movies, games, browser, etc. All OLED protections (Screen Shift, Pixel Refresher, Logo Dimming, etc) are switched on since day one. Short and Long refresh cycles aren't able to correct the Burn-In from top and bottom Windows/Chrome/Explorer bars. So just a fair warning: BURN-IN IS VERY REAL. No drama though, only visible on very light backgrounds. Cheers!

[@SteveSmith-cm1hx]

@@micker9830 agreed.

[@SubZero8007]

Thank you! I was thinking about using an OLED as a PC monitor. Going to get a MiniLED now. Only problem: I think only Samsung has VRR with all features enabled (HDR, Local Dimming *toned down, but still good). And I would insta-buy the QN90B if the TV had Dolby Vision. Dammit...

[@Miskatonik]

​@@micker9830 Yes, I knew all that from day one. But still, watched RTINGS long-term Burn-In tests and my E9 was even newer and allegedly less prone to burn. Also, again, 35% Oled Light at all times, which is VERY low because I use it almost always in a dark room. Auto-hide Windows bar, auto-hide desktop icons, dark mode, etc. and very often changing content from browser to movies or whatever, not the same static image for hours. But even with all protections and precautions, Burn-In just happens. As said, NO drama, 55 OLEDs are dirty cheap these days and my previous 4K HDR Led TV was actually twice as expensive at the time. Just stating that despite all the precautions in the world, OLEDs are not yet suitable as PC monitors. This is not as clear as you think, since that is the use the 48' OLEDs are getting from many buyers. Maybe the new QD-OLEDs will be even less prone to burn, not worried tbh, nor I regret my purchase for my use case. Just sharing my experience 🙂

[@christophercharles3426]

I was worried about burn in so avoided getting a 48inch oled for my back tv room... saved some money so can't complain picked up 2nd hand Panasonic gt60 instead as wife has news etc on whilst working most of the day... our kuro is virtually bomb proof but I still baby my panny hz2000 in my den as worry about issues...one reason don't let my daughters and friends in there have a habit pausing tvs and go on their phones... however its only used for films so less to go wrong with it..

[@bloomerb4162]

And you must have put a lot of your hrs in Chrome and normal pc use compared to video and games. Bc it's hard to get burn in near 100 nits sdr. So you must have been using it a lot for normal pc use. If you need it for hrs upon hrs of web browsing or any software that's static, then yeah I bet it can happen at such low oled light.

[@christophercharles3426]

Another great video Brian...Listening to this as I'm wall mounting a used Panasonic gt60 plasma in my back tv room.. 🤣 save some money 💰 and saves landfill... my wife uses the room for work from home... I was contemplating a 48inch oled but was concerned about image retention as she has the news on in the background.. now I hear this.. She not keen on led as loves the kuro plasma look as do I... I didn't try tests for banding when I got my 65 inch Panasonic hz2000 as drive me mad.. and fortunately I haven't seen any problems with films in the dark.. Although Panasonic are back doing 77inch screens so was hoping to get one when I move... and for what they charge I would not put up with any faults...!!! Keep the vids coming brother 👍🏽

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Awesome comment 🤣🤣 hope all is well Christopher!

[@kev3226]

Hopefully QD-oled fix the banding.

[@zachariahsmith6475]

Hi Brian, I was hoping to get your opinion. I recently got a 77” C2 Oled. Out of the box is had crazy banding, 20-30 thin lines you could see in all content. After 3 automatic 4 hours cycles it stopped being visible in all content. Now I just see the bands on more uniform colors when panning. Not 20-30 lines. Really more like 2 bands, 1 more noticeable than the other. The bands are at the 1/3 and 2/3 point on the screen. I have 330 hours on it now and am 20 days away from my return/exchange period ending (Costco). Do virtually all Oleds have banding that can be seen on panning uniform colors or should it only be apparent in darker greys? TV doesn’t have noticeable pink tint so I am scared to play the panel lottery. Just feel like the crazy amount of banding fresh out the box made me feel like I lost the panel lottery.

[@LemonJelly777]

Just opened and plugged in my 77” C3… mondo banding on this just at the startup screen. I had an 83” C3 prior and returned it because so much dirty screen affect. It had banding out of the box also, and a huge pink line on the right side. It went away the next day after an update. But it was the dirty screen effect or foggy during white scenes and panning. For paying $3500 I just felt cheated. I just don’t understand how reviewers NEVER mention it and their panels look PERFECT during the reviews. Heck, even in store I’ve never seen it. What am I doing wrong is my thought.

[@AmericanDragon76]

Hopefully the banding goes away after a few refresh cycles. I am going to say to try and not look for it. I ended up returning my first for another hoping to would have less banding. It ended up having a little bit more actually. That being said after use it diminished largely. Every once in a while I will notice it but it kind of is what it is. Don’t get too obsessed with this. Unless the banding is crazy bad I would just keep the same tv and enjoy it. You will not notice the banding 99.9999% of the time.

[@LemonJelly777]

@@AmericanDragon76I did the panel refresh last night and boy, what a difference. I’m curious as to why LG just wouldn’t suggest that at first initial start up? I wouldn’t think doing a refresh right out the box is going to do much if any damage to the panel. It’s brand new, isn’t it? My brother in law has a 77” C1 and I’ve never seen anything on his for as long as he’s had it. Heck, it’s what made me fall in love with the C series. But anyway, after the refresh last night it’s a 180 degree difference. Much of what I expect when first unboxing and spending that amount of money on a premium tv. I guess my dollar to expectation ratio is… to high?🤷🏻‍♂️

[@AmericanDragon76]

@@LemonJelly777 I just realized I am replying to you from a different KZbin account but for clarification I am the same guy you responded to’s post initially. I don’t think your expectations for what you paid are too high. For the cost the panel should be pristine but unfortunately that isn’t the way this works. I felt the same way when I bought mine. I know it’s hard but try to not look for bands and enjoy the TV. You will almost never notice it if you are just watching a tv show and not the TV itself. I maybe projecting here. I am just trying to save you some pain.

[@MM-Official]

Thank you my friend, i get your point, but still i fear burn in most cuz banding disappear and took place on very specific content (panning shots on darkness) but burn in is a permanent damage or at least a permanent threat if you know what i mean

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

I definitely want to know what it is

[@SteveSmith-cm1hx]

@John Hooper my C1 has zero banding.

[@cburke1923]

Wow so much truth in this I remember two years ago I go the lg cx and I'm not hugely knowledgeable on TVs but the banding thing which I learned about later on made me sell it it's just so distracting to me. I've been without a TV for a year and a bit now and think about going for the Sony A95K but kinda worried about this again. Maybe I should just go for the x95k

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

I'm glad but no glad you can relate my friend. QD-OLEDs do seem cleaner. Thank you so much for watching

[@bac4728]

Hi Brian, being that you're a gamer... I just got a Sony A90J 83" and I have a PS5... are there some settings you think I shoudl fix? It's 50/50 for streaming on Apple 4KTV and Gaming on PS5? Thanks!

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Hi BA! You just need to enhance hdmi for 4k 120 and leave the streaming at Dolby Vision in the enhance hdmi section

[@bac4728]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Thank you brother B! I appreciate you a lot and am fortunate to have found you on KZbin. I greatly appreciate your work and especially the peace and space that you create within. Much peace & love brother.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

@@bac4728 very kind and encouraging words my friend. Thank you and thank for being part of the community and family

[@69Dartman]

Been waiting for your review on the Sony Z9K to see what you really think of it. I have some toy money as you know so decided to order the 75 from Robert at VE. I know it's stupid expensive but want to upgrade to something fully up to date with a better quality picture then the TCL 65 825 I have now, and bigger.👋

[@Z4d0k]

For me, OLED's biggest weakness is stutter. I much prefer the motion on LCDs and can't watch OLED without motion interpolation active.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Great comment! Thank you for watching

[@gbj6581]

For me it been saddening. I had bought my last tv like 7 years ago (cheap). Now when im coming to buy a new tv and have a bout 3k and researching and looking at the c1 and a80j and to see these bands and judder when im viewing them at best buy, it really sucks. I know the color is better with oled. But i want clear motion. Its 2022. Cant i buy a decent tv with good motion. So dissapointed that i cant spend 3 thousand dollars and get a nice tv watch sports with not artifacting etc. Just sad 😔 (sorry for the rant lol)

[@DaddyDWALLY]

Thanks for the video, Brian. Some games that really show it are Forza Horizon 5 and Sea of Thieves. Just looking at those skyboxes, I noticed the banding bad on my new 77” A80J. Forza is probably the worst because of the HDR and you are literally just panning the camera all the time as you’re driving. I got the A80J new for $2k at Costco, but I am wondering if I should return it. I’ve got about 100 hours on the panel hoping it will improve with time, but I’m thinking it is going to stay the same. I never saw this on my Samsung KS8000 that I still have. It is so distracting once you notice it, especially in Forza. I don’t see it in Halo Infinite or other FPS games, but games with those gray/blue skies and scenes you described, it’s there. It’s like two vertical bands to the left and right of screen, just off center, and I even notice a band going across horizontally about a third up from the bottom of the screen. It’s very noticeable on HDR gaming. Just dark lines in a perfect 90 degree U shape haha. Should I give it more time and try to get to 200 hours with A80J, or just exchange for C1/C2? Do you feel like it’s more prevalent on LG screens or Sony? Thanks, again.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

If you got or from Costco I'd probably bring it back as it doesn't sound uniform but in thick bands. Costco is great with returns so I'd try another. Please let me know how it goes

[@DaddyDWALLY]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Do you think I should just wait until QD-OLED starts appearing in larger sizes? Has anyone else mentioned banding in the new Samsung/Sony QD OLEDs?I read that the grid pattern is a result of heat issues.

[@andremelandray7102]

@@DaddyDWALLY i would love to know this as well

[@jimfalco8302]

Have you changed the way you view recently? I know you said you like a saturated picture. Did you change your preference to more of an accurate setting? I have noticed immersion breaking horizontal banding (Venetian blinds, grid, and pink tint on my previous oleds. I now have a 77 C2, and it has none of this. I also have never noticed vertical banding, but I watch in vivid (which I know is blasphemy). Vivid does Crush the black and that’s probably why I never see it.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Hi Jim! I still like a saturated contrast like image. This is mostly noticeable in gaming and I can't rock vivid in game mode😁 hope all is well my friend

[@shedrickjohnson8473]

Ha Brian great content questions my Samsung pnf8500 plasma died today. Can you give suggestions on a replacement for gaming and movies. I want a 75 in and up.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Hi Shedrick! LG is really the only way to go especially coming from plasma. 77" G2 or c2

[@shedrickjohnson8473]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY thanks im gonna go to magnolia store and take a look.

[@David-cg9pb]

Like the new name Brian. Another great Video

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Thank you so much David!

[@MM-Official]

I can't wait 😀

[@Xenocyde3000]

Is this also a problem with PC games or just console games? I did not hear any mention of QD-OLED models in this video, so maybe these are not affected?

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

It is on pc in some hdr games. The QD-OLED is better in this regard however over brightness might be what helps it . Thank you for watching

[@Xenocyde3000]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY if it's only a gaming problem, maybe there is some software bug involved as well? Some game engines are notorious for dithering and banding glitches. Or can this be triggered in movies too?

[@gogojoksy9179]

Hi is it better buying 85"qn95a or 77"a80j for same price i watch netflix and hbo 70% game 30% on ps5 and switch Thanks

[@cheese9812]

i dont see banding on my panel. maybe you calibrated using calman on HDR and that introduces a lot of banding. you need to provide more info to be more explicit on what mode youre seeing it on.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

It's not calibrated and I believe I was pretty explicit on when I see it my friend.

[@milanklco]

it is real as well on 65" A80J

[@Kung_Fu_Kenny]

Once you see one it ruins LCD forever lol

[@SteveSmith-cm1hx]

Ok now maybe I should dump my C1 and go with the 65inch Samsung Q80A that I can get for a steal of a price right now lol

[@SteveSmith-cm1hx]

@@micker9830 it was a joke. There's no way I will part with my C1.

[@mgaming7]

meh. there isn't a perfect panel so all you have to do is pick your compromise. I'll still take my A80J over all the LCD comparables. (QN90A/B, X90J/K) etc. Not that I dislike the X90K/QN90B, I just love my OLED.

[@tominfhl]

Love this channel but I refused to watch past the intro because I don't want to start noticing banding on my C1. 🤣🤣😅

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

🤣🤣🤣I appreciate it my friend!!

[@technologylord4017]

The Resident Evil Remakes 2, and 3 have those grey scales which totally show the Vertical Banding horrendously as it literally ruins the image, and makes the game look terrible in so many areas as the Vertical Banding issue doesn’t bother you much when ya first get your television but the moment you notice it that’s it as you’ll never be able to miss it ever again, and it can drive ya nuts, and really ruin the visual experience for so many game’s and We’re using a Tcl Mini Led Qled so it’s not just an oled issue but regardless it’s a shame because our Tcl R635 looks absolutely beautiful in games with super vibrant colors like fortnite for example but then game’s like Resident Evil 2 or 3 it just destroys the image, and those aren’t the only game’s as it’s literally anything with light grey or light blue or light green etc it’s basically those grey scale type environments

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

I agree 100% and I actually played those on an led and did vids on the broken hdr . Great comment. Thank you for watching

[@technologylord4017]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY I’d say that honestly I don’t believe it’s at all limited to Hdr Game’s though simply because You can pull up a KZbin video to do a specific grey scale banding test which is just standard content no Hdr, and those vertical bars are absolutely just as prevalent, however no argument with your analysis as I’m sure the Hdr is making it worse for sure but either way it’s a damn shame these Television sets are plagued now days with issues like these as We never had issues back in the day with our old school CRT, and or our Big Screens like DLP sets for example as it literally wasn’t really until Hdr gaming hit the scene with oled, and Qled local dimming sets that all this stuff became so prevalent, and widespread so yea I agree you’re correct the Hdr content definitely plays it’s part in this issue for sure ! Thanks For The Reply and take care Man I’ll hit the Subscribe Button on My Way Out 👍🏼

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Well said and very good points! Thank you and welcome to the community!

[@mj-gh2bz]

I honestly think when it comes to DSE oleds are still better than leds , my 34 inch samsung monitor has so much dse, i can see it in witcher 3 when i look at the sky , my 2019 sony tv also has dse but still way better than my samsung monitor .

[@xFrxsty]

Does banding vary from panel to panel ? Or is it the exact same for every panel

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

From panel to panel and from manufacturer to manufacturer. Which stinks

[@xFrxsty]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Oh crap I forgot to specify if color banding banding varys from panel to panel, not vertical. Though I bought the G3 and had my first returned because I had really bad vertical banding, and unfortunately my second panel still has banding. The most prevalent one is in the middle of the screen, and I have been noticing it in content, even when I try to not search for it. I’m unsure if I should try another replacement or try a manual pixel refresh, I only have 30 hours on the panel though. I have also noticed pretty bad color banding on skies in game too, I don’t remember it being this prevalent on my C1.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

@Rick Johnson if it's prevalent switch it again. Try and give it at 100hours break in . But if it's bad switch it

[@rolandwilms1122]

My 4 year old 900e no banding no jailbars .great panel blacks not bad

[@pioneer2321]

My pioneer kuro has no banding, no tinting -cleanest uniformity on any tv.

[@christophercharles3426]

@@pioneer2321 Ha ha... cool...I'm still rocking a kuro in our lounge too 👍🏽.. however they did have their issues Red tint.. but voltage tweaks got rid of that and deepened the blacks.. just picked up a panny gt60 for our back tv room wife uses to work in.. but have to say my fav tv I have is my Panasonic 65hz2000 in my den... unreal...

[@TheHDRSuperchannel]

I'm very scared about burn in actually not banding. Let's see how long my C1 will last.

[@ericadame4885]

I’m owned Oled since 2017 and never had burn in on my TVs

[@pioneer2321]

Banding is just as bad. It’s like watching On a defective tv.

[@darrenholmes8656]

I suffer with colour banding on the 55 c1, some blue sky's look terrible... I understand it can be down to the quality of the content but i never saw this on any Sony Tv i have ever had. Anyone else have this issue ?

[@o_KingOfKings_o]

My c1 48” wbe have like 1250h I can’t see anything in the 5-15% grey 👍

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Glad to hear it and thank you for watching

[@TPRErik]

Yes, it sure is.

[@1Aquadon]

Thanks Brian.. so do we all just stay in SDR and maybe raise the brightness some to mitigate this flaw somewhat?

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

No my friend HDR is amazing 98% of the time but just be prepared if it pops up in this type of scene

[@bloomerb4162]

Definitely has to do with the content and how the game is making its image. Maybe try that part of the game out on a new big lcd if you get a chance. But yeah it's not a big deal, overall PQ is too good to get upset over those little things.

[@NexGenTek]

Coming from fomo's video today. I just wanted to let you know the S95B is still the monster it was when it released the only picture preset they changed was Filmmaker mode. Which in my opinion needed to be changed so that it'll follow creators intent more accurately. For the millions that complained other than that literally nothing else was dimmed or worse. Just wanted to clear that up because I know you hate updates that change picture quality. But with this I think it was needed!

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Hello my friend. I know it's still a monster and still probably the best oled however it has changed since it's launch in more than just filmmaker . To your point probably for the better . Hope all is well.

[@NexGenTek]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Thanks for the reply much appreciated. All is well I love the channel's new name. Tech with KG has an hour-long comparison few weeks ago with a stock S95B no update vs S95B with update. From his findings nothing was tamed but Filmmaker mode. Actually "highlights" looked brighter in most scenes than before. He did mention the movie and standard looked adjusted too so you're right nothing dimmer though. Very interesting if you haven't seen it. Looking forward to more of your comparisons!

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

@@NexGenTek thank you my friend! I tend to not watch many of the other creator's these days. The challenge with a new out of the box S95B or any panel for thar matter as they can be updated or changed at the factory and not necessarily show the update in the firmware. Thank you as always

[@ruffstik]

I find abl/absl more distracting than anything else...

[@Displays.1234.]

There are so many bad down sides to LCD, that any slight banding is a very small price to pay.....

[@richystar2001]

I thought you were going to show movie content.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

I explained in the vid that we can't due to copyright. It's not much of an issue in films

[@SLICK8116]

Color banding is real

[@itsjusterthought7941]

Hi Brian ...OK I see the banding in your example. It's awful. You claim it's content based. What does that mean. Are you saying LED does not have this banding when playing this exact game example, or are you saying other games with grey smoke in a dark environment don't have banding on OLED. You need to be more specific, because banding is a real problem game devs struggle with when deploying computer graphics. Banding is caused when you do not have enough gradations in your choice of colour tones and you see the steps. When a TV has equal gradation across the full spectrum you see little banding, but if you start stretching areas to emphasise other areas of contrast via tonal mapping, you pull gradation steps away from certain areas of the spectrum which results in banding. This can happen at the studio when lighting the game, so it's permanent for everyone (content based). Or it can happen at the TV via aggressive tonal mapping by the user or the manufacturer (hardware based). Which is it. You appear to be mixing the two.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

What I mean is during certain content which is typically caught between a hazy grey or blue in hdr will show this. It does happen with Leds as well but it may be banding or jail bars which shows the zones . In SDR it is rarely visible. Some games have a faded almost washed out look which don't get dark enough ( Resident Evil 2 remake for example) which is where you'll see it most. It's on the panel but only shows up in certain content. Which means 90% of the time it's not visible but it's there and it's the panel. Thank you for watching

[@toorop111]

Looks like I’ve made up my mind. XR85X95K here I come (rubbing hands together quickly) whilst smiling……..

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

You'll be very happy! Thank you for watching!

[@toorop111]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY is the 95K a no brainer over the x90k?

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

@@toorop111 yes they are very different.

[@toorop111]

@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY deeper blacks for sure I imagine. I watched your video last night about the banding on a larger oled. I seen it terribly noticeable on a oled77c1.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

@@toorop111 the x95k is brighter, has much better light control being mini led.

[@billschannel1116]

By the way, never ever ever point out flaws to other people as they may never be able to look past it. Just let them be happy. I've been in the receiving end of that and it stinks.