Bant Strategy Guide: Strengths and Weaknesses of Bant Decks in Commander

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Nitpicking Nerds

Nitpicking Nerds

Күн бұрын

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@TheHive616
@TheHive616 4 жыл бұрын
Please do the rest of these, I really enjoyed that. As a recent convert to the Commander way, I can use all the information I can get, and I love your channel.
@LTJ
@LTJ 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear an entire segment on my beloved Enchantress's. They so don't get enough love so thanks! I run Tuvasa Enchantress (although poss segueing to Amareth for even more value) as my premier deck.
@SeeToTheLemson
@SeeToTheLemson 4 жыл бұрын
Do it. Worth. I built Amareth originally but couldn't get my hands on it. I ran the deck with Tuvasa for playtesting... Once Amareth is out, especially with solid board state, the value engine just chuuuurrrns.
@LTJ
@LTJ 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeeToTheLemson Sweeeeeet. Thanks for the info!
@pauldyson8098
@pauldyson8098 4 жыл бұрын
Popular Bant anthems ("Banthems"): Bant Stand Losing You Why Bant I be You? Bant Hardly Wait Dueling Bant-jos Bant You Hear me Knockin' Bant Stop Bant Buy me Love Bant Live without You Bant Tell me Nothing
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
WHY IS EVERYONE COMMENTING PUNS
@pauldyson8098
@pauldyson8098 4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds You ever wonder what the "many" Rafiq of the Many was the many of? Puns. Rafiq of the Many Puns.
@hollowfied7greed
@hollowfied7greed 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you guys doing these again, can't wait for Esper.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, "again?" You have been a fan for a while 😂
@mehatestuesdays
@mehatestuesdays 4 жыл бұрын
I like this show, more please! I would watch these videos for all shards, wedges, guilds and mono colors (including mono-brown).
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly we were really stoked to do them for guilds but wanted to at least finish our "cycle" of shards/wedges first
@mehatestuesdays
@mehatestuesdays 4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Looking forward to updated versions of the wedge videos too :)
@nicksakowski2450
@nicksakowski2450 4 жыл бұрын
Please go back and do the old ones again as well! Fantastic job as always, gents.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
They could us a fresh coat of paint
@baloo7869
@baloo7869 4 жыл бұрын
This was great, looking forward to more!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
If it's well-received then we'll keep em coming!
@baloo7869
@baloo7869 4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds don't be afraid to make one about the best color pairing, Gruul
@georgeakoury7915
@georgeakoury7915 4 жыл бұрын
This video was great! excited to see the rest of the three colour combinations. Thank you for creating my favourite channel
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
You're too kind! We're getting a lot of requests to finish the cycle!
@georgeakoury7915
@georgeakoury7915 4 жыл бұрын
That would be epic! Can't wait for tomorrow's video (no matter what the content is) thanks Joe & Beezy
@crovax1375
@crovax1375 4 жыл бұрын
I listen to you guys in the background all of the time
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
😍
@janspiekermann1593
@janspiekermann1593 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your awesome content, guys! :)
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
No prob! :)
@wardious2562
@wardious2562 4 жыл бұрын
*Green:* I have excellent and efficient ramp *Blue:* I offer counter spells and simic *White:* I have Path to Exile
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
White has some good staples
@wardious2562
@wardious2562 4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds compared to green and blue though?
@fiofio601
@fiofio601 3 жыл бұрын
And Swords to Plowshares. Don't forget.
@andrewsparkes8829
@andrewsparkes8829 4 жыл бұрын
The first flicker card was not Flickerwisp, but...Flicker. Go figure. (Go flicker?) I tend to call immediate return from exile "blink" and end of turn return "flicker" - though Flicker itself is actually a blink spell. Again, go figu-flicker.
@EJsGameplay
@EJsGameplay 4 жыл бұрын
Right? I always wished flicker/blink were less interchangeable and had clearer definitions. Like you know what they could mean, but always have to specify immediate vs delayed return. Like you could say Flicker is immediate and Blink is delayed, but how much sense does that make that "blink" doesn't mean immediate? lol.
@Hyuuga2109
@Hyuuga2109 3 жыл бұрын
@@EJsGameplay I just bypass the issue entirely by calling the two effects "fast blink" and "slow blink".
@patrickbartholomay6513
@patrickbartholomay6513 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would be great if you did Shard/Wedge strategy guide every few NPN “seasons” Maybe mention the hot newcomers, cards that have fallen out of favor or have since been outclassed.
@dinnerpartyempire
@dinnerpartyempire 4 жыл бұрын
Good. Very nice integration of the sponsorship, your back wall looks great as always
@PaleoDrew
@PaleoDrew 3 жыл бұрын
I watched this whole video and honestly thought you guys were talking about Grixis
@Guukoh
@Guukoh 4 жыл бұрын
I wasn't sure what colors bant was at the beginning, but I figured it out like five or so minutes in.
@alslayer18
@alslayer18 4 жыл бұрын
I mean I knew what bant was before I watched the video, but if I hadn't, I would have still watched it. You guys are really funny, and informative!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
That means a lot, thanks for letting us know! :D
@Lefty_Dawitt
@Lefty_Dawitt 2 жыл бұрын
you guys are my favorite Magic Guys
@starfox5837
@starfox5837 4 жыл бұрын
Never knew what that wasn't to your explained it thank you
@ptp1999
@ptp1999 4 жыл бұрын
Was the first card with flicker on it not Flicker from the Urza block?
@ghostlycreations6
@ghostlycreations6 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know you could do that with Voidslime or cards like it, but in all honesty, it sounds like an example of just because you can doesn't mean you should.
@alexwarlock5480
@alexwarlock5480 4 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for Jund/Naya one next, cant wait to see land interaction cards
@crawdaddy1234
@crawdaddy1234 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of Humility, I think you’re thinking of Moat, which is over $800.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
That’s gross!
@vonhousin4179
@vonhousin4179 4 жыл бұрын
when I first found your channel, I thought you two were a pair of annoying, stupid nerds. I ended up giving you a chance after my initial 2 minutes of watch time however, and now I am glad to have given yall another chance. I am new to playing magic and I have learned so much from you two! Definitely my favorite pair of nerds now lol
@voxkine9385
@voxkine9385 4 жыл бұрын
I always want to make a bant deck but the commanders all feel so one-note...
@TheeMasterSword
@TheeMasterSword 4 жыл бұрын
Just do whatever you want and slap an Angus Mackenize or some other generic commander on it. I made bant mill.
@CQCnotBLT
@CQCnotBLT 4 жыл бұрын
Make bant golem tribal with the new ich tekik and ishai. You get to use all the cool splicer cards.
@SeeToTheLemson
@SeeToTheLemson 4 жыл бұрын
Amareth the Lustrous. So easy to build with anything that uses permanents!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Pick a silly win condition first, then work to build around it! For example, Helix Pinnacle 😍
@kdchmln
@kdchmln 4 жыл бұрын
i have a rafiq hatebears deck that's pretty fun.
@andrewrobles8814
@andrewrobles8814 4 жыл бұрын
I’m excited for Sultai my guys
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Welp... we have already made a Sultai video, I'm not sure if we're going to re-make the wedges. Although looking back, that Sultai video, while containing good info, kinda stinks
@demolisherman1763
@demolisherman1763 3 жыл бұрын
Are you ever going to finish this series up with Naya Jund and Esper?
@nino3759
@nino3759 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know when we will be able to play in paper again. I miss my lgs and my friends?
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Us too
@canadianham
@canadianham 4 жыл бұрын
Only bant deck inhave made is chulane but then later changes it to amerath , the lustrous.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
How did you like the change, was it an improvement?
@canadianham
@canadianham 4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds well chulane is such a power house. It works very similar to chilane, but lowered the power levels of the deck. Makes it alot of fun! With chulane at the helm it took over most games.
@ThorMan91587
@ThorMan91587 4 жыл бұрын
15:44 I watched the whole video, and didn't know what you were talking about 🤔
@bassiell
@bassiell 4 жыл бұрын
this vid is about how to play purple XD
@FelipeMannrich
@FelipeMannrich 4 жыл бұрын
I had an Balan deck, switched to Sigarda, host of Herons and now switched to Rafiq. Coincidently is a bant commander. Unfortunally, I am focusing in equipments and not enchantments, that make the deck weaker in my pov.
@alanthepyro
@alanthepyro 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, so which colors is Bant?
@jasondeutschbein8102
@jasondeutschbein8102 4 жыл бұрын
Liking, Subbing, commenting, algorithm. But actually, just this kind of video I find greatly interesting. I spend too much time looking at scryfall.
@elipetrou9308
@elipetrou9308 4 жыл бұрын
Jund or grixis next?
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
If they get enough votes, otherwise we might just do them in WUBRG order, which would make Esper next, followed by Grixis
@agustinprosello4687
@agustinprosello4687 4 жыл бұрын
You are right, I do love You so much that I would listen if I didnt know what You were talking about
@maydaysoc9129
@maydaysoc9129 4 жыл бұрын
Hushbringer smokes that Tocati thingy. Plus it has this awkwardly sensual art which makes some opponents uncomfortable.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Yes that card is way better, and way sexier
@haydencumiford2361
@haydencumiford2361 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video of this on Grixis
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
We are heading that way 😊
@haydencumiford2361
@haydencumiford2361 4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds rad, I love the content
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
@@haydencumiford2361 we are glad you enjoy the content 😊
@connoringram4948
@connoringram4948 4 жыл бұрын
Why is night of autum good in your meta NN? I mean gainin 4 is not relevant when you loose to thasas oracle and a 3 mana 4 3 is also irelevant. It seems like a harder to cast rec sage. In modern its great for the versatility but in commander only one mode actually matters.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
We lose to damage as much as combos. It is harder to cast but in a GW deck it is pretty much the same so the life or counters are gravy.
@brianlinden3042
@brianlinden3042 4 жыл бұрын
I think the best possible "bread and butter" card to use as the name for a tier would have to be your favorite overpowered staple, Darksteel Plate, because you need a plate to put your bread on. :p
@brianlinden3042
@brianlinden3042 4 жыл бұрын
(Sorry, I couldn't think of a way to turn Grave Titan into a bread pun...)
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, "overpowered staple" I believe those are the words we used 😂 we appreciate your pun efforts!
@Controlqueen31
@Controlqueen31 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna translate the video for u: How to play /play against best stax decks in the format. Or How to Fu... Chulane (said by a Chulane stax player)
@theonedraven8007
@theonedraven8007 4 жыл бұрын
im just here to support
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
We appreciate every second of it!
@Xylotonic
@Xylotonic 4 жыл бұрын
One of my main decks is a Pheldagriff Group Hug bant deck. And it's one of the decks where politics is a huge factor. My friends think I have no soul, but I laugh my ass off. It also ran Invoke Prejudice, that since the ban has no functional replacement... this is an issue that should be addressed.
@henlohenlo689
@henlohenlo689 13 күн бұрын
blue green white bant walls deck 4 axebane guardian 4 overgrown battlement 4 wall of roots 3 sphinx relevation 2 high alert 1 exploration 1 laboratory maniac 1 memnarch 1 capsize 2 venser's journal 4 evangelize 2 mass manipulation 3 arcades the strategist 4 tower of fortunes 24 lands with 4 reliquary towers this deck does have infinite mana combo infinite card draw and win game with laboratory maniac. high alert plus axebane guardian is infinite mana, and sphinxs revelation to draw your library, then tower of fortunes draw 1 more card to win.
@aidankeyes5526
@aidankeyes5526 4 жыл бұрын
Also definitely don't forget chulane value engines in bant.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Blegh. We hate you Chulane!
@rthayes00
@rthayes00 4 жыл бұрын
Such a good video, bant miss it
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Why did this video make everyone comment in puns???
@robertphillips1285
@robertphillips1285 3 жыл бұрын
Armageddon casualties of War catastrophe are cards that are in my deck LOL
@suntitan4419
@suntitan4419 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched this whole video and I still don’t know what colors you guys are talking about
@DisdainusMaximus
@DisdainusMaximus 4 жыл бұрын
Green white blue. But I agree that those names are pretty fucking silly.
@suntitan4419
@suntitan4419 4 жыл бұрын
Disdainus Maximus it was meant to be a joke they were talking about it in the video
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Sun Titan you are fired
@rchikinsbanana3511
@rchikinsbanana3511 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like Bant mostly because the only deck my dad plays is Estrid
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Is it an annoying deck? Also it’s cool that you play with your family!
@PlayerThe90
@PlayerThe90 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong Bread tier: 1) Elven Fresh Cinnamon Roll 2) Supreme Baguette 3) Gourmet Bagel (from Zndrsplt) 4) Bread and Butter (The basics) 5) Silver bullet from wolves deck tech (Beezy knows)
@Guukoh
@Guukoh 4 жыл бұрын
Also, show me the others!~
@lepoopscoopeire
@lepoopscoopeire 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for grixis
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a coming
@PawzBrownMTG
@PawzBrownMTG 4 жыл бұрын
Great Bant video guys keep staying Pawzitive Guys
@PawzBrownMTG
@PawzBrownMTG 4 жыл бұрын
Please do them other colors
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
We’ve gotten a lot of requests so far!
@beepboopkendo4206
@beepboopkendo4206 4 жыл бұрын
Joe can you please outline the introductory text for yourself with a lighter colour? Its often difficult to see your flavour text when you're wearing dark clothing. Also thanks for all the awesome content.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and can do!
@Goldscorpio7
@Goldscorpio7 4 жыл бұрын
I think most people just search up sundial of the infinite in Roon
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
That is equally gross 🤢
@cteal2018
@cteal2018 4 жыл бұрын
Estrid stasis lock with an Armageddon thrown in....everyone scoops
@jakejust13
@jakejust13 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do girxis next
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
I think we are just gonna go in order, which puts Esper next! :)
@overkiller22
@overkiller22 4 жыл бұрын
Says how to beat the enchantress or flicker vomit, but not a derevi lol.
@twl232
@twl232 4 жыл бұрын
Wait...you love Sun Titan but not Grave Titan? Is that even allowed? 😅
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Sun Titan is best Titan in edh
@twl232
@twl232 4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds That is unusual given its color.
@demphisford614
@demphisford614 4 жыл бұрын
The bant rant , classic..
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t handle all this banter
@kazutokirigaya7710
@kazutokirigaya7710 4 жыл бұрын
I don't play any of these Themes in my Bant-Deck🤣!I am playing Bant Counters with Yorion,Flickerwisp and Bloom hulk as a little Infinite combo for Loyalty and +1/+1 Counters🤣
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
SOUNDS LIKE INFINITE BLINK TO ME SIR
@zackkelley2940
@zackkelley2940 3 жыл бұрын
Humility? Against a Bant deck? Is there a Bant deck that doesn't have at least a half dozen ways to get rid of enchantments? Just having an aura shards will usually solve that. Counter spells, Disenchant/Naturalize, Bounce/Exile Permanent effects, there's even a planeswalker or three that can remove that.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Well it can be answered but it is still very good against them. Dies to removal isn't really an argument
@zackkelley2940
@zackkelley2940 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Perhaps, the entire table going after you would probably be a better one. It does hit ALL creatures.
@creakwoodliege5239
@creakwoodliege5239 3 жыл бұрын
Bant is fun
@thrall6647
@thrall6647 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks for commenting!
@thrall6647
@thrall6647 4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds oh dont mind me it just preis for algorigm gods : - )
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
@@thrall6647 we appreciate it!
@izabellnemilindfors2566
@izabellnemilindfors2566 4 жыл бұрын
You are not say thassa when you discuss blick or flicker effect
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 2 жыл бұрын
I am guessing no one got them right yet as i see no pins
@ExKiwi-yw8er
@ExKiwi-yw8er 4 жыл бұрын
Weaknesses of blue green? Where?
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭
@yumyumeatemup
@yumyumeatemup 4 жыл бұрын
Duh nunananananananan Bant man!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that was quick 😂
@chrishiggins2651
@chrishiggins2651 4 жыл бұрын
What’s magic the gathering
@orsettomorbido
@orsettomorbido 2 жыл бұрын
I deeply hate the fact that Bant can't be a spell strategy. There is literally next to zero support for that way of playing it :(
@HellBent4Kitties
@HellBent4Kitties 4 жыл бұрын
can we all just be onboard with hating Chulane decks.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. If you look back at out “10 least fun commanders to play against” video I think you’ll find we agree with you!
@LowinBayrod
@LowinBayrod 4 жыл бұрын
Well technically flickering ward is older but bounce back to your hand, so the older flickering spell with flicker in its name is... Flicker you nerdy noids! Of course flicker is the original flicker...
@RedCometNurse
@RedCometNurse 4 жыл бұрын
Hushbringer ruins a Bant creature deck.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it's a stellar card, even better than Tocatli Honor Guard which we mentioned over it for....... some reason
@moboombada9774
@moboombada9774 Жыл бұрын
This is still inconclusive.
@moboombada9774
@moboombada9774 Жыл бұрын
There is no actual way to win. And you don't know what your talking about
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