BARGAIN Alternatives to EXPENSIVE Luxury Watches | Watchfinder & Co.

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[@BrittPearceWatches]

“And why have 24 karat gold when you can have stainless steel gold PVD?” “… why indeed?!” Hahaha! Fantastic video as always!

[@nesleiwakabessy3046]

When are you dropping a new video? I already binged all your other videos they are so addictive

[@nesleiwakabessy3046]

I take that back I see you just dropped a new vid 🙃

[@danieljones7965]

A 24k watch be nice... But they are all 18k so who cares right?! In most cases... I like Tudors and Cartiers though haha... Except for quartz Cartiers ha

[@starfthegreat]

Isn't PVD prone to wearing off over decades?

[@diavalus]

@@starfthegreat more like over the year or just a few years if you don’t wear it much and it’s always underneath a cuff

[@invisuu6280]

At 8:32 did someone fart in the microphone?

[@BrittPearceWatches]

That Tissot is particularly a top tier choice! They were all top tier choices. Well done!

[@ashleyslingers2814]

I’m here for the gold PVD party. Picked up the 35mm this weekend and loving it!!!!!! Feeling like mafia from the 80’s!! Love it

[@tonydixon7949]

Guys!! How could you not go for the Seiko SPB159J1 as a substitute for the Patek Philippe CALATRAVA 5226G?! Literally 50 times cheaper at RRP (you can get it at discount) Same textured dial and number colour, a beige calf suede hirst strap would cost £25 for a closer match. Love the longer chat segments!

[@gsfcdy]

I've been looking at the SPB155J1 lately and can't stop thinking about it 😍

[@alvinmick218]

Guys, this was and is a winning format! I’d call it and even draw. Tom’s Tissot choice was his top pick of the contest while yours was definitely the Smiths. I’d really appreciate seeing you consider doing this again with other watches. Maybe even go for a three way competition with Charlotte. I think she would give you guys a run for your money!

[@ARod3]

I’m trying really hard to buy that black dial smiths

[@allanfoster6965]

Smiths are highly valued by British vintage car enthusiasts as they made rev counters, speedometers and so on. Not unlike other watch manufacturers

[@christianstoyanov4290]

jlc also did speedometers interestingly

[@allanfoster6965]

@@christianstoyanov4290 Precision engineering. 😊👍👍

[@jamesrobert4106]

I have suggested if the case back is removed, that there might be a half eaten butty inside, as a nod to 1970s and 80s industrial action 🤔

[@allanfoster6965]

@@jamesrobert4106 😉👍👍

[@SaxonSuccess]

Smiths did aircraft instruments too. Hence the expression: "Nothing on the dial but Smiths..."

[@KentuckyMan30]

10:59- As a guy from Kentucky, I found this hilarious! Glad it wasn't cut. 😂

[@StuntpilootStef]

That Smiths is harder to get than a real Explorer.

[@MeanLaQueefa]

Damn, I really like it too

[@ARlELATOM]

When will CWC get recognition? They have a real military heritage like Omega and Rolex, they look as good if not better and are a fraction of the price!

[@nitsan]

I love this new format guys. It's light hearted and entertaining.

[@Movendion]

I really want to like the Smiths but I just can't get over the fact that the owner of the brand has been known yo doxx people who dare to ask for a repair under warranty and in a few cases has just refused to send repaired watches back. The way he sells watches also seems dodgy. I was lucky enough to get my hands on one before they really took off but the whole experience dealing with the owner soured me on the whole thing.

[@PierceMD]

Don't advertise those Citizen watches, I'm trying to save up for one

[@jrice644]

It would be interesting to see a cheaper alternative of the usual Swiss brands with a cheaper British brand alternative. Christopher Ward, CWC, Smiths, Vertex, Scurfa, Farer, Bremont, Pinion, Marloe and numerous others too many to mention. That would be a worthwhile video.

[@HJuice23]

No one is talking about the Frédérique Constantin watch?!?! That thing is beautiful in blue!!!!

[@maaku6210]

There are hundreds of watches more interesting than the "luxury " brands

[@clemdurand]

Genuinely surprised about the Citizen, thank you for bringing up that one

[@NachiketaKumar90]

Great episode! One additional one could be the Glycine Airman as an alternative to the Tudor BB pro.

[@dre32pitt]

That Frederique Constant is sublime!

[@TheCyclingCardio]

That citizen dials and markings actually looks exquisite

[@dannyg6592]

I own 3 Smiths watches - the Everest, the Silver Jubilee and the Commando. Superb watches, very well made, attractive and durable and an absolute bargain compared to an Explorer.

[@jamesrobert4106]

If you take the case back off, is there half a unionists sandwich lodged inside for industrial action heritage?

[@juniorjohnson5961]

I bought a San Martin very well made watch $139

[@isthmuses]

Surprised not to see the Stowa Partitio on the list: a great watch for about £750 featuring *extremely* similar vibes to the Patek Philippe 5226G, with heritage to the 1920s to boot!

[@diavalus]

Stowa is such an underrated brand

[@kristiangustafson4130]

Gotta say, those Citizens look lovely. Those floating logos on the schmancy paper dial are the business.

[@zumalot]

I really enjoy this format. I also enjoy when the very expensive is compared to the more affordable choices. Keep up the great work!

[@justamatterv4455]

Only if you're on a budget and want to impress. Otherwise, invest on the ones that appreciate in value.

[@grumpynuts101]

Great video and great selection of affordable alternatives! Love the gold Tissot PRX, hoping Tissot come out with an all-gold Gentleman’s at some point in the future! Another alternative for the Tudor Black Bay Pro that I’ve been eyeing is the Christopher Ward C63 Seamaster GMT. Similar design language to the Tudor and the Rolex Explorer II for $1,000

[@caerphoto]

If you want a cheap GMT alternative to the Black Bay Pro, the Steinhart Ocean One Vintage GMT is a good shot at 550 euro.

[@markbyrum4743]

Re: Smiths and the Everest expedition, that Sir Edmund Hillary said he "carried" his Smiths sounds like men would say in those days not far removed from the golden age of the pocket watch. Men during the pocket watch era "carried" their watches - they didn't "wear" them. I'm a Smith's owner, love it, and am happy to beat their drum on the Everest topic! I didn't know Smith's was a/the sponsor of the expedition. That adds to my position. Great vid. Keep at it!

[@leoisforevercool]

Now THIS is the video my wallet has been waiting for

[@michaelh.1627]

Omg…”Where do I get my noodles at?” Priceless! I’m going to be saying that for a month now and probably annoying everyone in my family. Thank you!!

[@brianhilsden2880]

Ref. The green GMT’s. Have you looked at the new Longines Zulu time and if so, what’s your opinion?

[@BaguaCrane]

Or if the PRX is still too expensive for you, grab the gold Seiko 5.

[@Seasunsangria]

Really enjoyable & informative episode! It's good to know that they're are some excellent quality & value watches out there that are comparable with the far more expensive brands. I'd say that Tom edged this very close contest...the Tissot got him over the line first in my view!

[@attainableapex]

can you do something about annual and perpetual watches? I really want one, but maybe between $1-5k

[@ahmadlalo2000]

Omega speedmaster triple calender

[@attainableapex]

@@ahmadlalo2000 omg thank you. That is awesome

[@nolanreed7090]

The video about a bicycle with backwards controls was mostly likely Smarter Every Day. It's an excellent entertaining engineering channel based in here Huntsville -- where everything is space themed and the best selling watch at our best AD is, of course, the Speedmaster

[@Ashfielder]

The jovial conversation between Mr Hands and The Other Fella is excellent as always, thanks for this one. That Smiths Everest is my personal favourite.

[@cosmodoc]

I don’t understand why you didn’t mention the Christopher Ward C63 Sealander GMT, which is clearly a most brilliant alternative to the Tudor!

[@XSXXL]

Tom won this one for me. Good low price alternatives with good looks. Thanks for the presentation!

[@matthewrikihana6818]

SEIKO, Tissot, Citizen, Smith's, and (grudgingly) Hamilton. The Pressage deserves a look and the Smith's is a sleeper fave. An alternative for the BB pro could be a Steinhart retro explorer.

[@SerialWheeler]

The PRX and the Smiths were the closest alternatives. Great job!

[@Ohne_Silikone]

I liked this no nonsense vid quite a lot. I also like your conversation style and humour. Keep it up!

[@matthewcook2097]

i didnt like the other guy on these podcast type vids for a while, now i really like what he brings to the table with his point of view, i feel like he found his voice and style :)

[@zhicaofang2354]

I'll have to go with Tom on this one because most, if not all, of his propositions are literally affordable options (or at least affordable for a much wider range of buyers), while the likes of Tudor, Longines etc. are already standard luxury or entry-level luxury choices. Besides, the Tissot PRX 35mm and Hamilton Khaki are like the exact (but cheaper) copies of their luxury counterparts LOL And just a bit of personal opinion, not responding to any particular models mentioned in the video, but I've been browsing through some affordable or high price-performance ratio brands, and I would whole heartedly endorse Mido and Certina. I own two Mido watches now and dare I say they have one of the best, if not the best, finishing, bracelet and functions for the four-digit or something USD price level. I haven't gotten my hand on any Certina for now (shame that they do not have authorized dealers in the USA), but judging from the website product page I'd say they are a bit below Mido in terms of design and finishing, but still packed a lot of value. I will try to get a Certina and see if it lives up to my expectations.

[@youraveragepasser-by7367]

Can confirm - Certina doesn't match Mido in terms of quality but still decent

[@charleshermetix3886]

Rado. Ball. Orisssss🤘🤘😝

[@zhicaofang2354]

@@charleshermetix3886 Agree with Rado. Ball would require a BIG wrist! And Oris is too expensive compared to others

[@XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx]

@@zhicaofang2354 Oris is definitely a step up from mido but the quality is there too.

[@Chrissepisje]

That Hamilton Pilot Pioneer was out long before Watches and Wonders. I'll point out that Hamilton has been in business since 1892, in the heyday of railroad watches. They supplied the navy and military during the war, they came up with some of the first electric watches, were involved in the first mechanical automatic chronograph development, and they sparked a revolution (albeit shorlived) with the Pulsar LED watch. My conservative guess is that they did not, in fact, copy Patek here. :)

[@Reclaimtherainbow_Gen9]

Tom wins for the Baltic, Tissot, and Hamilton choices🤙🏽

[@paulvr3158]

I pre-empted the Hamilton, I feel like I have come of age in my new fantastic covid hobby!

[@ivan-xt]

If Tissot manage to put gold background on the date wheel it will totally rock

[@dotover9046]

Smiths the company ceased trading in the 1980's - The Smiths Everest presented here is actually made by one guy from a company called Timefactors who took on the Smiths name and make homages to the orginals and in this instance the Explorer 1016

[@garyboyle695]

How can it be a homage to the Explorer when the original Smith's came first. The explorer is the homage.

[@dotover9046]

​@@garyboyle695 The remade smiths watch shown here is nothing like the original - This one is a homage to the 1016 - did you not read what i said? The smiths that Hillary took with him to Everest was a smiths de luxe

[@Outsidecontext]

I had a smiths Everest. A lovely watch. A little too small for me; but, I loved the aesthetic.

[@AbdallahMassoud1]

Yo, idk if you guys have always had this type of editing or am I just finding out about it. Really high quality stuff! Thanks for engaging me into watches!

[@chrismuz]

Andrew for the win: 1. Tom: Baltic 2. Andrew: Tudor 3. T/A: Tie Citizen / Frederique Constant 4. Andrew: Smiths 5. Andrew: Longines.

[@thetruebatman4632]

LOL boys what in tarnations do you mean “…a westerner come busting through it, WHERES MY NOODLES AT?!” Leaning on a fence post right this moment and I damn near dropped my phone. What did my folk do to you?! WE ONLY EVER LOVED THE SAME HOBBY!!

[@watchalot919]

The Oris is nothing like the Tudor GMT, you well have chosen a Vintage Timex. Steinhart make the perfect alternative. Yema Flygraf would be a good alternative to the Calatrava

[@therealJohnSmith]

You guys should feature Harwood watch company. They make a nice quirky watch.

[@frankpentangeli7945]

I'll go with Tom on the Baltic and Tissot and with Andrew on the Frederique Constant and Smiths. I consider the Hamilton and Longines to be a draw, so the overall result for me is a draw. I would definitely like to see more of these contests. They're FUN!

[@ShirtlessRabbit4]

Same, except I consider the Hamilton a win and the win goes to Tom

[@frankpentangeli7945]

@@ShirtlessRabbit4 I prefer the Hamilton's looks too, but that 43.5mm case size is just too much.

[@ShirtlessRabbit4]

@@frankpentangeli7945 I mean I unpopularly like larger watches (and smaller watches too), so it's a non issue for me

[@ralphimbrogno9239]

Nice Texas accent and you missed Christopher Ward for the GMT.

[@notenoughtime7274]

Great video, as always. Love the choices and the dialogue!

[@thetravelingnomad6203]

What a wonderful show/program idea and It is a draw! I can't either find any substitute for Tudor BB pro, it is so hard and one might even argue for the Seiko Sharp edge GMT as a contender there. Longines Spirit to battle the Patek problem, would be my solution. And Spirit Zulu Time would work as an option to BB Pro!

[@stuartcole4845]

For the Black Bay Pro I would suggest the Christopher Ward C63 Sealander GMT. Clearly inspired by the Explorer 2 without being an homage, especially the blue variant. Really good value and a nice bracelet with on the fly adjust.

[@jazzman5598]

“Whar y’all noodles at?” “Wail?” “Serve us som good noodles.Austin is a longways away Pard! “ 🤠🤠😵‍💫

[@EddyTeetree]

Why is your mic proudly erect whilst Toms is droopingly flaccid? Tom, ask for a fluffier next taping mate, your being emasculated. What about an episode on least/most reliable watch brands and or models e.g. like What Car does with automobiles

[@denniss420]

Ive had a Tissot prx for a while now and wear it almost everyday. Sadly I still have yet to run into someone else who knows Tissot and recognizes the prx.

[@doyoulikejazz9516]

I would absolutely kill for a standard Tissot PRX in 35mm with Powermatic 80

[@warusk2nd]

I think Toms choice for the Tudor BB Pro was better... Smiths are cool but meh. The Oris is much more colorful and elegant in my opinion

[@markwolfson2023]

Smiths! the brand in my Land Rover Defender!! when you mentioned this brand, I fell down the stairs, and my shoes fell off (both of them)!

[@badernajeeb4114]

14:39 , I don't know if it's just me, but that "yeeeeess" feels very Jeremy Clarkson-esque 🤣

[@nathanielbrice8725]

Love the banter between you guys. Best watch channel on KZbin for sure! Really liking this format in addition to the talking hands videos!

[@davidhunternyc1]

As soon as you mentioned the Grand Seiko Kodo, I immediately thought of the Citizen 0100. No, it's not a skeleton watch but who cares about pomp and circumstance when you've engineered a watch with + -1 second accuracy a year with 6 months of reserve power? The Citizen 0100 is brilliant. Great thinking, guys.

[@rangorango7545]

My alternative to the Vacheron 222 is the ....gold casio digital with the mesh bracelet ..its even better than the Tissot and better looks, and u get the vitage vibes...

[@martinsaunders7925]

The new Smiths cost as much as refurbishing my original,which I bought new to go to college.

[@SirLoinOfsteak85]

When considering a budget Tudor Pro, why not a Glycine Airman? Has a similar look and is older than the Rolex the Tudor is homaging...

[@danielwarton5343]

Couldn’t really get the Otis link from the Tudor. The Citizen looks really nice.

[@betog.6229]

A good alternative for the Black Bay Pro I think would be a Chris Ward Sealander GMT. Looks even better than the Explorer that it's replicating in my opinion. And cheap, cheap, cheap.

[@betog.6229]

@@ajyeoh Ok.

[@benjoyce5449]

@@ajyeoh Thats watch snobbery at it's finest right there...

[@rodrigogutierrezreyes4702]

@@benjoyce5449 🤣🤣🤣🤣 so true!

[@rodrigogutierrezreyes4702]

@@ajyeoh I understand you point, but the way you expressed it sounded like snobbery. I use a G-Shock to tack my two different timezones so...🤷🏽‍♂️

[@waynesellers4078]

@@ajyeoh I would agree/disagree with 1 caveat, if you don't travel to different timezones very much but do need to track a second timezone the quick set date is more useful than the true gmt function.

[@localgearhead]

For the Tudor Black Bay GMT Pro i would say a good budget watch would have been the Christopher Ward C63 Sealander GMT

[@joeplatz7289]

Great video. For the last one, Longines Spirit would also be a good option.

[@dobrintomoff]

you could have taken the new Timex GMT as an alernative to the Tudor

[@DouglasRosser]

The Frederique Constant is nuts. EDIT - Hey Tom, just tell people that the new "hustle culture" means 31-hours a day!

[@slice1208]

Why not pick the oris pro-pilot gmt instead of the pointer date ?

[@Mr-Safology]

I'm wearing the Smith's De Luxe Everest right now. 👍🏼 History speaks for itself mister 🙂. Hillary wore the Smiths.

[@MeanLaQueefa]

It looks pretty timeless, I like it 👍

[@GaryMartin-ii6mz]

BALTIC , HMS 002 Blue Gilt 360 Euro is my favorite

[@matthewcoupeofficial]

Smiths was in every British car going through the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, 80’s and even into the 90’s Started out in London and highly successful and famous company in the car world.

[@Ashfielder]

I’m planning of having some E-Type Smiths dials made up for my MX5, they’re just so elegant and legible.

[@withRUfUS]

For the alternative to the Tudor black bay pro the Steinhart ocean 1 vintage gmt is a better alternative for the $.

[@rickybobbysdriver555]

Loved the American impression, "where do I get my noodles at!" You guys should do a segment with American accents.

[@sabakhodjasteh4093]

I do understand and know that my choice would be frowned upon, but I really love hommage watches, they give you the looks and are generally a crazy bargain , I would take a San martin or pagani design for the rolex and Tudor . It’s my opinion, I do respect all other opinions

[@violinmke]

These boys don't do homage watches but if you look around there are lots of watch reviewers that do them.

[@RubbelisPro]

Same here, I'd put the san martin sn021g over the smiths everest all day, as someone that owns both, but that's just me. If you can get past the AliExpress stigma you'll actually find outstanding value for money. I also understand people have a problem with buying Chinese watches too which is fine, to each their own.

[@samsan3095]

@@violinmke Smiths Everest is as homage as a watch can be, but I suppose some people find Smiths' ridiculous buying experiece of jumping through hoops and staying up at night more enjoyable.

[@petebaja2690]

I would also add the Victorinox Inox Mechanical as a cheaper alternative to the Girard Perregaux Laureato 42mm. A reliable automatic movement [a Selita SW200-2 in the case (excuse the pun) of the Victorinox]? Check, a hexagonal bezel that is close enough to the octagonal GP's bezel that you'd miss the difference if you weren't looking closely? Check, A waffle design dial? Check. All for a 1/20th of the cost of the GP - I have one as a daily alternative to my Tudor North Flag and it's just as accurate as the Tudor - the Victorinox is 3 to 4 seconds fast per day (which is easier to adjust, just stop the second hand for the required amount of time to reset the time) compared to the Tudor which is 3 to 4 seconds slow per day which is more of a faff to reset the time (stop the second hand and advance the time before starting again)

[@JT-ds2gn]

I mean to be fair, the first time I glanced at an Oris pointer date in person I thought it was a GMT hand lol

[@DrNeat]

Keep the great content up guys. It's the highlight of my day to listen to these long episodes.

[@azimcz]

There's in Longines Zulu time you guys missed as for GMT alternative I'd say ... Whole new spirit collection would be nice to see in your review !!

[@jwvandegronden]

@2:50 smarter every day I think... Finished the video and it's hard. It feels like 50/50 which js basically impossible with 5 watches. First three are for John, latter two are yours. But 1 of John's is in contention so 50/50 indeed! Pleasantly surprised by the citizen choice. Ever since they took over my brand of choice, I have felt slightly underprivileged so to speak and this episode has redeemed them a little bit. To be fair, I yet have to do my "due digence" reg citizen and I'm acting purely on heresy and lazy condescension

[@rayseaman6204]

The CITIZEN , for me, was the most Interesting Watch.

[@siongheeleong8078]

Overall, Tom wins this as he has most watches that fits the bill. My thoughts on the watch choices and what I think are the closer/better budget alternatives: * Alternative to Rolex GMT Master LHD - Baltic Aquascaphe GMT Green (Tom wins) * Alternative to VC Historiques 222 - Tissot PRX80 35mm Gold PVD (Tom wins) * Alternative to Grand Seiko Kodo - Frederique Constant Slimline Monolithic Manufacture (Mr. Hands wins) * Alternative to Tudor Black Bay Pro - Neither wins. It should be the Christopher Ward C63 Sealander GMT Black (£970). * Alternative to PP Calatrava 5226G - Tom was close with his choice of Hamilton Aviation Pilot Pioneer. The closer alternative is the Seiko Prospex (Alpinist) SPB159J1 (£600). It has the black mottled dial, the cathedral hands, the date at 3'o'clock, and the 38mm size but only the hour numbers are fewer (even numbers only) and in a different orientation.

[@waynesellers4078]

Completely agree with the last 2 choices. These were exactly what I was thinking.

[@thewatchverdict]

Glad to see the Smiths on your list. It’s a great watch. Solidly built and there is attention to detail. They are hard to get, sell out in less than a minute, but they are worth the effort in my opinion.

[@brettmeikle]

I sat up til 1am here in Tasmania but it was worth it at the first try...I got that very watch. Others have made multiple attempts with no luck. It's a mad way to do business, but perhaps better than those they homage.

[@pwsod]

Have been trying to buy a Smiths for eons, but being old and stupid I am to slow and confused to follow the buying procedure and have always run out of the allotted time allowed to purchase a Smiths. Maybe they might allow me a little more time?

[@LorianandLothric]

I have the silver jubilee aventurine dial and it's gorgeous

[@johnedwards7542]

Why buy a modern look alike when the originals can be still be found

[@LorianandLothric]

@@johnedwards7542 Because the original is overpriced and it’s wasting thousands of dollars

[@TheHallberger]

Regarding the FC Monolithic, I think it’s banned in Germany because of a copyright thing on the name of the company that makes the silicon part for FC, company is called Flexous that makes the oscillator

[@4490red]

The Victorinox Alliance mechanical is a great match in texture to the Patek. Only $625.

[@juniorjohnson5961]

I wish Citizens would use that Eagle logo instead of the name.

[@WatchUnboxingChannel]

I’d say Tom won I’d agree with 4/5 of his choices 👌🏼

[@CaptainHoratioPugwash]

Tissot doing the PRX in a smaller size is great but it I can't find a 35mm waffle dial auto :(

[@thenutcracker2921]

Doubt you’ll see this comment at such a late date but I really enjoy this concept. It’s a quirky little game I’d like to see more of please. I personally find value substituting a mistake unless you actually like the compromise watch better, but that is rarely the case. As a game, however, it is quite fun.

[@bradleyburton4762]

What are the options for someone who loves a watch that they could never afford; it not substitute?

[@thenutcracker2921]

@@bradleyburton4762 Find a unique watch you love and can afford. There is virtually no way you only like 1 watch and the choices available at all price ranges is staggering. If you settle for a copy it will almost never live up to the original in your mind and soon you’ll realize it didn’t actually scratch that itch. Buying a watch with its own unique identity is extremely satisfying and regret is only an option if you fall out of favor with its look/style. Car analogy time: You cannot afford a Ferrari but want one. Do you settle for a look-alike kit car or purchase a Lotus? The Lotus is still somewhat exotic, aggressively super car styled, is mid engine, European, unique, and very fast around corners. All at a fraction of the cost. The kit car just makes you look and feel like a poser. A Submariner copy/“homage” does exactly the same thing. FTR, I’m not talking about fakes with original badging. You should already know why that’s a terrible idea.

[@LorenzoC36]

I see the metal bezel on the Tudor and I think that's a Vostok if I've ever seen one!

[@viva360]

Smiths is a good suggestion but now it would be even more harder to get one

[@stupidocanerosa]

A Frederique Constant with a constant rate escape wheel. Who'd thought about that?

[@yebwjwjwwb]

Dude you have to make this a normal theme on the channel. It's very interesting and fun way to get to know about watches. I have literally watched this video 6 times. Please make more of these.