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@sumitkar81462 жыл бұрын
“I’ve always thought the Navitimer dial was a little too clean” - classic 😂😂
@low87dawg862 жыл бұрын
That shit was funny
@michaelhetherington55162 жыл бұрын
For the IWC alternative I would pick Laco. Has the same heritage of IWC/Stowa, but only cost about 300 quid for an Aachen auto.
@Ragnarok_792 жыл бұрын
My list.. 1. Tudor GMT Pepsi ( a cop out I know 😄) 2. Seiko flighty 3. Bulova lunar pilot (I have one and it's the only choice) 4. Oris Pro pilot big crown 5. Panzera aquamarine A-45 Top video.. more of these definitely 👏🏻
@YouTubeID404 Жыл бұрын
The Yema Superman Worldtime GMT Coke maxi dial is an absolute banger. Vintage look, perfect size (offered in both 39 and 41mm), in-house movement, pretty affordable and manufactured by a legendary watch maker who's also the supplier of the French Marine Nationale.
@kiwilonewolf Жыл бұрын
I have the 39mm and it has pride of place in my collection
@BandrewScott2 жыл бұрын
This has got to be one of the funniest watch talk shows out there. Incredible work gents!
@kennyadams97412 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I love their banter, always has me laughing
@donmongoose2 жыл бұрын
For sure. None of the watches really tickled my fancy but the banter made it thoroughly enjoyable.
@YoRHa_2E2 жыл бұрын
Pretty funny discussion, I particularly liked the comment about the navitimer not being busy enough, and the "our story" webpage. This was pretty even in my opinion - Tom for the first two, Andrew for third and fourth, and the last I personally wouldn't pick either but they both bore some resemblance to the icon.
@siongheeleong80782 жыл бұрын
This was a landslide 5-0 win for Andrew. The Yema was the closest that Tom got to beating Andrew but could not. The rest were all Andrew's, especially the Sinn and the Bulova. These 2 were the most obvious budget alternatives to the Breitling Navitimer and Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch respectively.
@Reladan1872 жыл бұрын
I think the Yema was a victory for Tom but 4-1 for 'Drew
@Strideo12 жыл бұрын
That Yema was way better
@vaclav_fejt2 жыл бұрын
Seiko Speedtimer isn't as "moonwatchy" as the other moon watch, but I'd argue it's even better than the Bulova.
@MrRaifeosaurus2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has used a Navitimer in the air… Tom definitely won it. The citizen is a hot mess but at least the bezel can be moved easily. That sinn bezel is useless in the air unless you’re wearing it on your right wrist.
@vaclav_fejt2 жыл бұрын
@@MrRaifeosaurus Why the right wrist in particular?
@peterpenhk2 жыл бұрын
The Sinn Navitimer, compare to pre-B01 Breitling offerings, is actually a better watch IMO. For a period Sinn produced the Navitimer with Lemania 1873 and a transparent case back, which is a beauty.
@TechPanzer2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Plus, the inner rotating bezel allows for a very precise use while also improving massively on the Navitimer's weak spot: water resistance.
@JG-df7ve Жыл бұрын
I don't care who wins, I'm just here for the fun. I love seeing watches I didn't know about, reviewing others I already did, and especially your comments on them. The best (and funniest) content I've ever watched. Don't stop producing these videos, please!
@69fastfurious Жыл бұрын
Same as me love the Steinhart GMT did I listen price 1.6k ? US Or Euros shame on me German made I’m in Europe plus love that army green , those Sinn watches are awesome don’t own this model got others 105UTC , U50 , 356 and 104 awesome watches well built and great time keepers now Sinn have raise the prices a lot 😡 Yema superman Sorry guys would not recommend them!!! All best rather buy a Sinn or the Steinhart I know it’s an homage … but this army green is awesome 🙌
@BrittPearceWatches2 жыл бұрын
Oh YES Yema is such a strong shout! All of these watches were fantastic choices! I tended to side a bit more with Andrew 😜 BUT TOM YOU ARE GORGEOUS AND FABULOUS
@nerdbot372 жыл бұрын
I reckon this match was a draw for me. Tom and Andrew each picked three watches I would happily add to my collection (Tom: Yema, Citizen, and Seiko; Andrew: Sinn, Bulova, and Stowa), and Tom won rounds 1 and 3, while Andrew won rounds 2 and 4. The 5th round... well, I don't really care much for Panerai, so I care even less about watches that- erm... homage the look? But I will say that Seconda looks like a 60 pound watch, while that Precista also looks like a 60 pound watch but costs 755!?! For that reason, and mentioning the Avi-8 -- hate their name, but quite like their designs -- I suppose Tom just edges out a win if I had to pick one winner.
@LD-bf1mi2 жыл бұрын
Yema is so underrated as a brand. A great ‘Ambre MBP’ in-house movement in a lot of their watches under 1000,-
@billofford69642 жыл бұрын
Tom's Yema and Citizen picks are brilliant, but the only watch on this list that I would consider purchasing/wearing is the Sinn. Therefore, I deem this competition a tie.
@whyFINAL2 жыл бұрын
I mean Stowa and Laco have true history pieces, quality is amazing even in the entry level models. But if i cannot afford IWC and wanting something cheaper, modern instead i would go for Longines spirit 100% one of best watches that came out in recent years.
@feartheellipsis66082 жыл бұрын
The Lunar Pilot is just like the one that went to the Moon. All they changed for the reissue was the size, the shape, the layout of the dials, the font, and made it quartz rather than automatic. But apart from that it's identical...
@Zed17762 жыл бұрын
Also I order two and returned two for being defective out of the box.
@sylversyrfer68942 жыл бұрын
Love the summary chart at the end! And the winner is? BOTH Andrew AND Tom!! Keep up the great work!!
@txilling2 жыл бұрын
All options are close to the inspirations. However, for the Panerai alternative, I'd gone for a spinnaker hull. Specifically the california dial. Such an underrated gem!
@frankpentangeli79452 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Beats the hell out of the two duds the boys picked.
@low87dawg862 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking that
@codeandroad3020 Жыл бұрын
In 1968 I bought a brand new Breitling Navitimer for £57.50. A couple of bezels and a few services later I sold it. No regrets. It was my daily driver and was replaced by something more suitable. Stayed away from mechanicals until 2 weeks ago when I bought an IWC MkXX. Lovely watch.
@georgecostanza21572 жыл бұрын
As a big pilot owner I did own a laco before to see if that was my thing and sure enough it was. Good on you Andrew to go with one of the original pilot watch manufacturers
@wisamal-hakim55312 жыл бұрын
Some good choices all round. But for pure nostalgia I’m giving this to Tom who picked out a sekonda. When I was at school I had a sekonda from Argos and it was great. Followed by a Lorus.
@peterzwegat53802 жыл бұрын
Next to Stowa for a alternative for the IWC is also the German original brand Laco. Look there as well! They offer a lot for around 1000 as well.
@JTAK8842 жыл бұрын
This was excellent! I agree that future videos should have a total cost tally at the end. :)
@bonnsbee15272 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you who the winner is.... We are! the format is engaging and perfect for the humour. What's not to like.
@sinantuna28592 жыл бұрын
Allow me to win this contest: Rolex GMT Master ii --> Oris Aquis GMT (preferably Whale Shark LE) Breitling Navitimer --> Hamilton Khaki Aviation Converter Omega Speedmaster --> Bulova Lunar Pilot, have to agree with Andrew on that it's the clear winner (Bulova Chronograph C if you want more flare) IWC Big Pilot --> Oris Big Crown Pointer Date Panerai Luminor --> Bell & Ross BR01 / BR03
@bobmclennan17272 жыл бұрын
I got to try on a Bulova Lunar Pilot last month at Wind-up Watch Fair here in Chicago. After seeing many a vlogger refer to it as too big and clunky, I had mostly written it off, but it turns out it fits and feels way less bulky than I thought. I still can't bring myself to pull the trigger because $400+ for a Bulova is $400+ that could go toward a "real" Moonwatch in a year or two...
@harmoniaartificiosa2 жыл бұрын
What great fun! My pick for the Navitimer would be the Hamilton Khaki Aviation Converter Auto GMT. It really looks quite Breitling-esque, in a good way.
@JCS77552 жыл бұрын
“They will think I’m from the future.” Hilarious. And yes, that Navihawk is just a mess. Total mess.
@bikergolfer2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Im only giving round 3 to Andrew at best a draw in round 5. For the Bulova Moon Watch its also worth mentioning that the quartz movement is actually based on the Accutron where it's not as accurate as a full fledged Accutron but it's still pretty close. Should you guys decide to find a Lange 1 cheap alternative I think the Ulysse Nardin San Marco GMT is a great option at used prices!
@TheMrFishnDucks2 жыл бұрын
Hated that Yema with the bezel lock and that awful lug to lug they should have made the bigger girth instead of length. Tom had this one for me. I loved that green GMT hopefully they make that in a dive watch. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
@watch_a_mod3542 жыл бұрын
Having looked at Sinn models more closely these days i can appreciate their 903 Navitimer even more. Sinn becoming more and more appreciated doesnt make their waitiing lists shorter ;D
@TORQUEMADA1942 жыл бұрын
That Longines spirit 5 star review joke 👌😂
@KRW6282 жыл бұрын
Two more for you. Alternative for the Navitimer 1332412 Seiko SNA411. Same size, same face. 250USD. Alternative to the Speedmaster 300 Pro - Seiko SKA371 - skeleton hands, extra pusher on the top. About 250USD (pre-owned).
@reginaldjeannotte89612 жыл бұрын
I recently bought the Bulova Lunar pilot and love it. The price was right
@HeavyRain8452 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this comparison across segments and price ranges. It gave me a bigger picture of watches and brands to explore. There is something to admire in all these selections.
@stupidocanerosa2 жыл бұрын
Tom! Seiko went to space! The Pogue for (add a divinity) sake!
@michaeleccles33362 жыл бұрын
Missed a trick with the stowa. You can get it without badge and it looks so much cleaner and more traditional. Love the double dial with hours inside the minutes. That would have been my pick. Cheaper too.
@kylesalisbury67892 жыл бұрын
After watching this one, I realized how many watches in my collection also fall under the category of, well they are watches that exist.
@matthemming91052 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of these videos. I enjoy your repartee, and I'm discovering some new companies worth checking out, as I'm a new member of the Watch Addicts Community, and am working with a budget that does not accommodate anything close to a Rolex.
@charles56272 жыл бұрын
Great job guys! I love that there wasn’t a hard price cap on this one, it makes this a lot of fun to see what you both come up with
@zumalot2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy these shows very much. I kind of liked the AVI-8 and just may have a look. I also liked the story behind the Sinn 903. I knew Breitling went through some really bad times, but did not know they sold off the rights to their Navitimer, but when you're bankrupt I suppose that is just part of the deal. During a bad health issue I sold off my 3 most expensive pieces and took a beating, but that is for another time and thread. I liked that AVI-8, but I'm repeating................................Good show, gentleman.
@VentureBeyond2 жыл бұрын
have to say, Avi-8 have some lovely watches on their site, will have to check them out!
@kristiangustafson41302 жыл бұрын
Andrew FTW. Fantastic choices throughtout. Props to Tom for playing the straight man.
@dasein432 жыл бұрын
I never knew watches could be so funny. Great stuff-fun and informational. I appreciate the introductions to models I might never know about
@SamrayGTR2 жыл бұрын
This was tough but I vote Andrew. The Sinn, Bulova, and Stowa are the most compelling.
@bigstef6637 Жыл бұрын
“Jolly good show!” Navitimer commentary was hilarious. Excellent affordable options
@mr22guy2 жыл бұрын
The Bulova wins, no question. Tied on all the rest - it's like having two good choices at two different budgets. Well done.
@Web3DArtist2 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a video on the Breitling Chronomat!!!!
@u.u.u9969 Жыл бұрын
9:36 I just knew you were going to say the MoonSwatch. Dang. Missed opportunity for a great joke.
@jamesblonde22712 жыл бұрын
Love the Yema, I would buy one if it had white lume. The Omega racing.....is a budget alternative as is the Lunar Pilot to the speedy, or the Pogue? Or the Sinn 140, you aint trying. Hilariously that Sekonda's quite pretty...
@TheBigWrist2 жыл бұрын
Yema is a nice watch with a great history. Unfortunately as of late they seem to have terrible support for any warranty issues. Lots of watch geeks complaining about it. Best Speed master alterative is the Tissot PRX Chronograph.
@simonrano80722 жыл бұрын
The best bargain alternative to the Navitimer is, by miles, the Seiko SN411 "Flightmaster" busy yet readable and good looking, 42 mm yet wearable as a 40, perfect lugs for nato/slip through straps, , fullproof with the 200 m WR, just lacking a saphire cristal maybe.
@romanhrytsutenko1882 жыл бұрын
I'll have to go with Tom's picks. I absolutely hate Navihawk and AVI-8 but the rest of the pics are solid. Andrew did a great job with Sinn and Stowa. so 3 vs 2. Tom wins
@UnholiestJedi2 жыл бұрын
GMT: Tom. Reason: Aesthetics Navitimer: Tom. Reason: Price Speedmaster: Andrew. Reason: How does Tom not know the Bulova LP is SpeedyLite? 🙄 IWC: Andrew. Reason: Heritage Panerai: Andrew. Reason: Tom went waaaay too far into inexpensive.
@jackwaserman92352 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT PROGRAMME: PROVIDES A NICE REVIEW OF MANY BRANDS.
@rocketdyneF12 жыл бұрын
Project Apollo is one of my interests. How did I not know about this watch?!!!
@damienbridges83582 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy this type of video. Keep up the great work gentlemen
@marcusaurelius49 Жыл бұрын
17:06 I would have selected the Alpina Startimer Pilot myself as the alternative for the IWC
@worldwise89392 жыл бұрын
On a personal level I would go with The Steinheart The Sinn The Seiko The Avi-8 The Sekonda So Tom just Pips it for me, the Sekonda is not a normal choice but I found that more esthetically pleasing so a subjective call on the last.
@valengreymoon56232 жыл бұрын
I've got a Bulova Lunar Pilot, and I must say, it's an insanely accurate piece. $ months of ownership, and absolutely NO deviation whatsoever.
@mrmagoo.36782 жыл бұрын
ooh!.. I wants one!..NOW!!!
@valengreymoon56232 жыл бұрын
At the current prices, they're a sweet bargain.
@mrmagoo.36782 жыл бұрын
@@valengreymoon5623 I was shocked to see the price tbh!..was expecting double!
@valengreymoon56232 жыл бұрын
It is a large watch, so if your wrist can handle it, it'll serve well.
@mrmagoo.36782 жыл бұрын
@@valengreymoon5623 That I was a little worried about.. but!..I recon I can live with it! lol.. I REALLY want to get Myself one of them.. the H.A.Q side of it too really intrigues Me too..
@maverickbonato81642 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about the last one but I feel like Andrew here gave some classic "watch nerd" alternatives, whatever he mentioned were my first or second choice too haha. Quite like the humor on Tom's side as well, if I were to give some criticism I'd say he might want to look at the brand and not only at the watch itself lel
@gregsolovieff67112 жыл бұрын
The black & gold Steinhart GMT is way cool too!
@eazye6192 жыл бұрын
I’ve wanted a Sinn 903 for years but trying to find one new or pre owned is a pain and on top of that they are $700 more expensive than before Covid-19
@mrmagoo.36782 жыл бұрын
Man..Eazy-E into Sinn?... You recon they'll match Your Jerry-Curl Homie?
@kennyadams97412 жыл бұрын
Me too but then I saw some of the oris chronos
@cedarcanoe2 жыл бұрын
Sinn’ 903 Navitimer has 100m WR. Breitling only 30m. Quite a difference.
@underachievingwatchcollect18782 жыл бұрын
For me, in the end, there is no substitute for the real thing. But while saying that I realize I have several substitutes 😎!
@Jack.Napier2 жыл бұрын
Best episode ever. Finally you guys mentioned Citizen, but again Andrew did it better, i wish he chose Farer Stanhope for Panerai alternative 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 the thing about Yema is there's so much negativity in the watch forums about their customer service and the quality of the movement but they're french so they should be unreliable.
@mitchmitchell95882 жыл бұрын
Haha! You are 💯!
@kkrsnn56322 жыл бұрын
and Steinhart
@jorgeocasio15042 жыл бұрын
Good job Gents, that was fun!
@SyDemon222 жыл бұрын
Literally 1 min ago after watching your video & seeing the Ocean One GMT .. went to Steinhart website and ordered myself one in 42mm. Stunning looking watch! Thank you for the great suggestion! Have a good one guys!
@melbguy12 жыл бұрын
Love the AVI pilots watch. The Sinn Navi and Seiko are nice as well. Also, i'd personally take the Steinhart Pepsi over the Yema Superman
@jerrytan62152 жыл бұрын
Definitely enjoyed the different brands on display here. Well done 👍
@914Rocky2 жыл бұрын
Budget Speedmaster’s absolutely exist. Pagani Design. $70. And it’s got a sapphire crystal. It’s a meka quartz but it’s really solid.
@Vladythebest962 жыл бұрын
15:10 light on heritage, had me in stitches
@RossWalkerrosswlkr2 жыл бұрын
the only watch channel i can be bothered to watch. keep it coming, you guys are genius, and super informative. and super funny.
@rayray..33492 жыл бұрын
Cheers Guys, I Picked Up two AVI-8 Watches, 100euros Each "TKMAX",,& I Love them .😎🙏🙏🙏
@Noahnelson912 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on entry level gold watches or gold options? Preferably sporty, I have been looking at 36 tudor bb with the gold bezel but tissot makes the gentlemen powermatic watch with a 14k bezel at 1/3 the price. Any suggestions?
@jazzman5598 Жыл бұрын
Good fun! Please, do one of these on tri-compax chronographs that DO NOT WASTE DIAL SPACE with that idiotic “spelunker” dial…….the phenomenally useless 24 hour dial. For crying out loud, open the curtains…….is it dark? Then the hour thingy that points to 10 means 22:00. See? Not so bad! Sheeeeeeeeese.. …..smh…….
@yebwjwjwwb2 жыл бұрын
Bro love these type of videos. In my opinion this would be a great series to make videos on from time to time.
@paulrobinson36492 жыл бұрын
Andrew 4: Tom 1. Only the Yema beat the expert this time IMO.
@amcluesent2 жыл бұрын
Win for Tom, almost a clean sweep apart from the Seiko.
@JochenVogel2 жыл бұрын
Yema(!), Sinn, Seiko, AVI-8, Precista. Tom wins again. How about making a video along the lines of: "Budget Watches That Are Icons In Their Own Right"?
@MisterKnightly2 жыл бұрын
I'm going with Tom, because I'm contrary.
@WatchandWealth2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video, thanks for the info.
@HeinrichBeck2 жыл бұрын
The Navihawk is a great watch when it's set up and running. BUT WOE to anyone trying to set this watch (daylight savings time, etc...), it requires a PHd in Horology or a trip to the Citizen Watch Shoppe.
@thetravelingnomad62032 жыл бұрын
I can't give it to Tom this time, my vote is Andrew; not Toms fault but Yema is misleading us as it says worldtime and IT ISN'T, it's just a GMT. Prospex are just getting too expensive these days imho regardless of how much I do enjoy my 3 Seikos (all prospex). And I do own both suggested replacements for Navitimer and only one of them can be a travel companion everywhere u go, without being robbed! Personally, I solved the IWC Big Pilot problem with a Sinn 556 and An Oris Big Pointer Propilot. Another viable option to solve Pilot as well as moonwatch is Sinn Flieger or if one loves moonwatch Type II with Sinn 144. However Sinn prices are also getting too high.
@rever-mi6qz2 жыл бұрын
The best alternative to the Speedy is the Maen Skymaster 38 mkII with the jet black dial
@millersx92 жыл бұрын
Round 1: Tom wins. The Military style looks a bit like a kids toy. Round 2: Andrew gets this one. Who knew Sinn does a navitimer? Round 3: Andrew. The Bulova is a good shout…. Round 4: This is very close….Stowa is a good shout. But AVI-8 is closer to a big pilot alternative. I’ll call it a draw. Round 5: Andrew. That watch screams Panerai
@D3Vlicious2 жыл бұрын
For a Navitimer alternative, nothing beats the Seiko Flightmaster SNA411
@notyourgrandadswatch77052 жыл бұрын
Tom, did you forget about Bulova? The watch that actually didn't fall apart in 0 gravity?
@w4td0uw4nt22 жыл бұрын
8:18 and I can hear the music dankpods plays to test headphones with 😂
@abrahamlevi35562 жыл бұрын
The Sinn Navitimer is meant to be worn on the left hand, hence the internal rotating bezel screw on the right side.
@supercarpaul_cs81472 жыл бұрын
The best thing about the citizen watch and the fact that you are never ever 1 want someone to ask for the time because we'll.... And 2 I get the world time or 42 city time but what nearly everyone who buys it will most definitely do once arriving at the city of choice isssssssssss pull out there phone to make sure that the time is right and then will constantly pull out the phone every time just to make sure that the watch is right...
@KevinRibelMusic2 жыл бұрын
A great alternative to the MoonSwatch is the Yema Spacegraf ZeroG!
@joshhead93685 ай бұрын
My god that sinn 903st is beautiful. That might even be worth saving for .
@pablozuma12002 жыл бұрын
Yema, Citizen, Bulova, Avi-8 and Sekonda... Tom wins 4-1. Very funny and entertaining. Thank you!!!
@LoadedGunsMusic Жыл бұрын
Love you guys! Hilarious and informative, so refreshing. Do more episodes like this!
@Masimba2 жыл бұрын
Love this series. Please do some dress watches next
@gannicus8228 Жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel. Love your content. You guys are hilarious and informative at the same time. Keep up the great work!
@David-nx2vm2 жыл бұрын
Bravo. I love how you guys tore a strip off the Panerai by finding the two most drop-shippy alternatives ever. I’m still laughing.
@morgan974752 жыл бұрын
Wasn't aware of that Precista....not bad. I do wish Bulova came out with a slightly smaller LunarPilot model, say 41 - 42mm.
@RedwoodAggie2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the Citizen, but I'm going with Tom's selection. I didn't care for either of the Panerai alternatives.