Baron Davis Explains How Phil Jackson Ruined the Knicks

Phil Jackson's tenure as President of the New York Knicks was a disaster, and two people who experienced firsthand explain what exactly went wrong with Phil in the Big Apple. #philjackson #newyorkknicks
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[@YonnieClarkTV]

Melo REALLY hated that Linsanity era, he don’t waste an opportunity to shoot that shit down 😂

[@DangleFront]

Total hater

[@darrellbarton9395]

Why would he hate the man slept on a teammates couch he was a bum he got expose in the playoffs get over it

[@swishdipper4362]

@@darrellbarton9395 He was jealous of the type of love that Lin was getting. Maybe, he should've locked in and gotten better.

[@mcfuckinanotheraccount808]

no matter what Melo says people will always ride with that narrative. the man is here saying what happened inside that locker room and ya'll talking like ya'll was in that locker room with them. i believe he was supportive of Lin but the Media, pre "new media" and players taking a stand against bullshit media narratives, just wrote wtv narrative it wanted and people rode with it like it's the truth. the media BEEN bullshittin. Separated Bron and Kyrie, tried to shoot Kyrie's career down. Butler was a supposed locker room cancer. Fuck the media and you're a sheep if you ride those fool's narratives.

[@johnnyblingg]

@@swishdipper4362but it was Lin that flamed or not Melody’s

[@gbo3225]

Phil Jackson fell asleep during the Donovan Mitchell workout then drafted Frank Ntilikina sight unseen!!! 🤬

[@geeroy8880]

That's a dunce statement....95% of the draftees work out for teams well before draft day!! Get a bigger 🧠!!

[@gbo3225]

@@geeroy8880 perhaps you should look in the mirror. Where did I say he worked EITHER of them out on draft day? If you do your RESEARCH you’ll find that Phil indeed fell asleep during Mitchell’s workout and never brought Frank in for one. Now sharpen up on your comprehension skills before you embarrass yourself trying to be insulting on line! 🙄

[@geeroy8880]

@gbo3225 You said Phil fell asleep during the workout.... each franchise has a team of people who are involved in the draft process, not just the president!!

[@phonefamoustv7930]

@@geeroy8880 how are you defending the team president falling asleep during a workout? Expecting someone to be awake while at work seems reasonable

[@geeroy8880]

@@phonefamoustv7930 Did you see him? Again during drafting it not one person but a team Individuals for a franchise!! PHIL'S RECORD speak for itself....does Melo's?

[@cunha545]

I'm still salty over the Bargnani trade.

[@lukedelfeus4005]

probably top 5 worst knicks trade ever

[@Zeus0886]

That was Glen Grunwald

[@johnnybraxton5539]

Don't know why by the time he left Toronto he was washed up

[@Colombianpapiz]

Now u got kids talking about Melo trash bc management was trash

[@biblereadings7617]

Andrea Bargnani was great. Knicks didn’t know how to use him. He was a major three pointer offensive juggernaut machine gun. Y’all just are a poverty franchise. One of the greatest players you got and you fkd that up

[@estx1980]

Phil Jackson should be tried as a war criminal for what he did to the Knicks.

[@bosho871]

Man, the Knick were garbage way before he came and the same way after he left.

[@josereyes1148]

What did he do? They were run terribly before him. He continued to be terrible? Ok, but they were used to it at that point.

[@a-tre8798]

Phil Jackson should be given the medal of honor for what he did for the Bulls and Lakers. Carmelo is the reason the Knicks failed

[@estx1980]

@@a-tre8798 ooooooooooook

[@tylercanton3836]

@@a-tre8798no he’s not Dolan, Phil, and those yes men were.

[@brianthompson4190]

Melo trying to shoot shade at LinSanity even to this day!!

[@EGarrett01]

Which confirms what everyone thought. Melo really is a rotten and selfish person inside. His embarrassing exit from the NBA was deserved.

[@joeykhan4703]

@@EGarrett01 stop glazing lin

[@EGarrett01]

@@joeykhan4703 Nah. Dude did more for basketball in 2 weeks than Melo did in his entire career.

[@ChiChi-jg1ch]

​@@EGarrett01Chill.

[@JackOBee29]

"He signed Lamar Odom. WHO IS ON CRACKKKKKK" favorite Stephen A line 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DaYungSinChrg]

He gave him $75k. That was money to get him back on his feet, not to suit up.

[@junstadomus]

SAS a 🦜

[@KDiamondz873]

😂

[@peteranzano267]

First time I’ve heard somebody give Glenn Grunwald credit. He made a lot of good moves. I also liked that BD called out Steve Mills too. He was clueless.

[@jonstfirmin7680]

The Knicks record with and without Steve Mills is stunning. It's like he was trying to lose

[@peteranzano267]

@@jonstfirmin7680 lol for sure. Dolan loved just him for some reason. Took too long to get rid of him

[@brianogrady3185]

lol when Melo tried to defend him for being “in a shitty situation” I woulda been like “Yeah and he made it shittier”

[@peteranzano267]

@@brianogrady3185 yeah Melo probably meant it was a shitty situation when Mills was working under Phil. The reality is there was a significant period of time when Mills was the President, and things weren't much better.

[@devangpatel5227]

the bargagni trade was horrible

[@raphaelbennett2169]

Melo couldn't resist taking a shot at Jeremy Lin and linsanity. We get it Melo you personally destroyed linsanity when you came back. Let it go man.

[@MrAllNBA]

You clearly didn’t watch the whole interview.

[@JohnnyScumbagg]

Teams figured out Lin and then he left that summer to Houston. Melo didn’t do anything to Lin.

[@bohammondlee7472]

​@@JohnnyScumbagghe did himself no favors not playing against the Heat that playoffs.

[@HernanMendez-ws4ed]

@@bohammondlee7472 Ayo P!

[@beaversroastingbacon1679]

Lin still has more rings than melo 🤷🏻‍♂️ idk why he’s talking

[@Eric_901]

Gotta get Shump and JR on the show

[@JT-xp3in]

Melo hated Lin we need a podcast about THAT

[@soILLitsADVISED]

“You got some dogs comin in” “You got vets!” “You dogs and vets!” Intro to the livest veterinary clinic in NY

[@tobascopelikan15]

do they ever touch on how carmelo ruined the knicks??

[@fm_232]

nah, they touch on your mother tho

[@dominiquetedder925]

you sound stupid

[@bohammondlee7472]

How he ruin them?

[@yvettem3097]

LOL

[@yvettem3097]

I would love to know how he ruined the Knicks.

[@josephlogel7158]

That hater attitude is EXACTLY why Melo wasn’t HIM in NY…he was all about Melo instead of team

[@Anything_goes_]

facts

[@thewhitedevilfromthebible5899]

He’s accomplished more in life than you or anyone in your hillbilly family ever will

[@theperkisystem12]

Melo, I've been a fan of yours for years. You still have one of the most elite offensive packages I've ever seen. But the amount of jealousy and dismissal you hold in your heart for Jeremy Lin and what he brought to YOUR team needs to be let go. He was legit for a small stint in the history of the NBA. The end. Let it go, man. Let it go.

[@HernanMendez-ws4ed]

Because Lins 1 week was more exciting than however long melo was there.

[@arjjun07]

Melo still salty that 6 weeks of Linsanity was better than his entire 6 year run in NYC.

[@rollz1990]

Sound dumb af

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

🤣💯

[@rollz1990]

@@Cantstopfactsbruh look at this díćķşüçķèř just agreeing with anything negative said about Melo even if it’s a pure lie 🤣 Lin ain’t never won a scoring title, been in MVP runnings, or even dropped close to 62 pts with 13 rebs so how tf was his short stint better than Melo’s time in NY? 🥱

[@calamarichris4426]

Lies Linsanity was trash. It's all about wannabes hyping up non black players for the bare minimum.

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

@calamarichris4426 That "trash" got signed by a contender and got a ring. After melons Oprah special with Stephen A Smith to beg for a roster spot, his old teams didn't even want him.

[@ricebowl3]

As soon as he heard Linsanity he shut that down. This why I don’t F with Melo.

[@brianthompson4190]

Deep down LinSanity makes him feel a certain kind of way

[@NostraSamus]

⁠Ashamed is probably the right word..

[@wafeeqzarif]

What are you talking about?

[@ReoBandss]

Y’all be acting like Lin was special or something.

[@mynmisoli]

Jeremy Lin brought more excitement and hope to New York than Melo ever did.

[@TheHoneyBadger22]

Maaaaaaaaaan shut up bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Super21208]

y’all act like Linsanity woulda beat the Heat if it wasn’t for Melo or sumn delusional Knick fans 😂

[@TomandJerry-zh7ep]

As a Knicks I can confirm this is not true. We are tired of the Lin talk already

[@NostraSamus]

Lin could have used more support from Melo, instead of the jealousy. No one wanted Melo in the end ironically. At least Lin ended up on a championship squad at his end 😂

[@wafeeqzarif]

Stay off the drugs bro.

[@eastbluedrew1664]

GM ALL IN THE VIDEOS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Foreign84]

😂😂😂😂

[@dfilipino4443]

Didn’t even know Davis played for them

[@colinnixon7739]

Barely lol

[@marvdatboi]

Melo had to get clarification right quick 😂

[@brandons2842]

Which goes to show you what he really thought about Linsanity when it was happening

[@CDiesel720]

​@@brandons2842 Exactly.

[@lush777]

Lo key hating😂

[@Drewb187]

Rightfully so, it was a flash in a pan. Good times though.

[@brandons2842]

@@Drewb187 nah, last video Melo tried to act like he was supportive of Lin during Linsaity. That's cap!!

[@stevecarpenter4702]

Everyone complains and states it's MELO's fault. Don't understand how badly Phil messed the team up. 1st by taking a job he never wanted. 2nd by getting rid a 50 win coach. Then replaced him with a new coach. Next dismantle the team that had been jelling for "players that can play the triangle " Last bad mouthing the star in the papers.

[@friendofdapeoplespodcast568]

Melo plz when you don get shunt on the show.. you can’t have him without JR .. get em both together

[@CDiesel720]

So Melo hears "Linsanity" and instead of hearing that the city is on fire for the Knicks, he says "It's gonna die off". And he wonders why people say he was hating. That comment alone is a hating comment. Baron Davis played here for like 2 seconds and he knew how hot the city was over the Knicks at that time. Why take it there?

[@tylercanton3836]

It would’ve been hating if Linsanity turn into a success, but it didn’t it last 2 weeks. He spoke out on what was the trash if Lin was that good Houston wouldn’t had got rid of with the lineup with Him, Harden and D12.

[@Shabobin]

Did Linsanity die off, yes or no?

[@rollz1990]

Didn’t it goof?

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

​@@Shabobin And a contender still signed him while melon couldn't even get signed by his old teams after going on tv begging to get signed. Karma.

[@Shabobin]

@@Cantstopfactsbruh gotta do your research bruddah. The only true contender that signed him is the year he got his ring. After he left the Knicks (2011-2012) he went to the rockets then bounced around with 6 teams until he got to Toronto, then went to China. What you're speaking of with Melo, was a year off after that BS with the rockets. Then still helped the blazers next year with the playoffs in the bubble.

[@bjjohnson9710]

He traded jr and shump for a bag of chips .. traded for baganni… fell asleep during Mitchell’s work out and drafted frank niggalina … Phil was the worst

[@mikes8863]

Feel like Phil wanted Melo and the team to buy in on his philosophy but Melo being the leader of the team never wanted to buy in. Instead of learning the triangle he was learning how to break it down

[@shreyavarma7068]

cause the triangle didn't fit with their personnel and then it became outdated a few laters

[@46st]

​@@shreyavarma7068 respectfully the triangle got 11 rings wats your argument for outdated

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Because he had to play teamball, and have good bbIQ and melon is the antithesis of that.

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

​@@shreyavarma7068 Melon has 0 First Team All Nba's and 1 Conference Finals appearance. What exactly fits his losing style of basketball?

[@shreyavarma7068]

@@Cantstopfactsbruh it doesn't matter. Melo can fit in triangle but the rest of the personnel can't. you can't run a scheme that doesn't fit ur players lol. Drose is the antithesis of the triangle and theres no point discussing the dfisher era because that was a shitshow with shitty players

[@bobwhite2]

Phil made the Bulls, the Bulls, not Mike. Then he did the LA.

[@MrOctober44]

Melo is such an unlikeable person. It's always everyone else's fault. He was the perfect player, perfect teammate apparently. 🙄

[@jwill9237]

Big ego

[@bohammondlee7472]

But you here watching him.

[@HernanMendez-ws4ed]

@@bohammondlee7472 And? He still never takes accountability.

[@SouthsideFYC]

I think bringing Phil to the Knicks was one of the worst decisions Dolan made, but I blame the fans/ media hype even more. Everyone wanted a big name in basketball & they got one in Phil Jackson. And will there ever be a time when people stop acting like Jeremy Lin led the Knicks to a Championship? The hate Melo gets never seems to amaze me, and they call him a hater…. Til’ this day, I still see a random #7 Melo Knicks Jersey at the Garden or at opposing team arenas. All hype & no Hart ain’t no good. We’ve got a bright future, - hoping to forget our dark past.

[@HernanMendez-ws4ed]

Gutting the roster for a ball hog and defensive liability was the worst move Hate melo for what? Never going to the finals? 🤦‍♂️

[@jumpman23madj1]

Melo always so damn bitter and petty

[@marc-gomes]

That “Knicks-tape” era was overrated. Stop it.

[@ernestrivers3736]

Melo still throwing shade at lin. At phil.. Its always somebody else's fault..

[@TomandJerry-zh7ep]

It was Phil fought

[@lawrence208]

Or maybe the knicks just werent good enough or disciplined enough and couldnt handle a proven system that had already won multiple championships?

[@josereyes1148]

He didnt ruin them because they were trash before him and trash after him. You didnt do anything for the knicks Melo.

[@tylercanton3836]

He did way more than Phil

[@Shabobin]

Name a time before 2000 to 2017 that the Knicks got to the playoffs without Melo.. I'll Wait

[@josereyes1148]

@@Shabobin 2004. I fully agree the Knicks have sucked for decades. That doesn't mean that Melo did anything great. Does it? Melo is apart of the losing history.

[@Shabobin]

@@josereyes1148 what do you expect a person to do when they aren't given the tools to succeed? Are you kidding me? Lol. You just said 2004 then 10 years after that, Melo gets there and takes them to the playoffs. 2004 they got swept. Come on man. The Knicks organization couldn't even put a winning team around him after that initial run. You have to stop the bias

[@josereyes1148]

@@Shabobin it's almost like....your inventing an argument to win... I told you I agree with you the Knicks were trash...

[@briantinsley8939]

Lin got love from the Garden crowd and Melo took that personally when he shouldn’t have. Melo, you were supposed to be our savior. We cheered Lin for his story and performance, we knew he wasn’t going to last and take your spot. Stop fucking hating Jeremy Lin.

[@biggeneral1628]

Melo a huge Lin hater

[@JonDoe-fo3kl]

Knicks werent willing to learn the triangle.They didnt have a winning mentality

[@XxXFlyingArmBarXxX]

He also passed up on Mitchell and took Frank Ntilikina 😂😂😂😂

[@daveclark8337]

This team doesn't have any selfish ball hogs and they play good hard defense.

[@NoCapJayy]

What?? Bro would have taken you 5 seconds to find out the truth instead of spreading lies... this season, Brunson shot more than Melo did 5 out of his 6 seasons with the knicks.

[@daveclark8337]

@@NoCapJayy But Brunson is shooting at 48% rate while dishing 6.5 assists. Knicks Melo was 44% FG and 3 assists. I used to watch Melo. Even before Harden, he was originator of: "Dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble.....SHOOT! "

[@joetamburello6292]

@@NoCapJayy Brunson makes the team better

[@HernanMendez-ws4ed]

@@NoCapJayy Post those percentages. You wont because melo was a L chucker.

[@BryantOden]

I LOVE this podcast. Grown man talk💪🏾

[@DaYungSinChrg]

What’s the point of you being a superstar if you not gonna put your balls on The table to get the team what it needs. Phil Jackson wasn’t all to blame honestly.

[@bjjohnson9710]

So you wanted him to take a pay cut ? I don’t get it

[@PosaVision]

The real knickstape team was with J Kidd and sheed .. baron left that name wen he left lol

[@TomandJerry-zh7ep]

2013 Knicks was the best. The 2012 Lin team was trash

[@arealgoodguy]

His first move was to sign Lamar Odom... who was on crack!

[@gilbertnicholas1582]

Melo and JR Smith were HATING HARD on Lin It was straight up racist

[@mambo9700]

Melo hate jeremy

[@JayTheRealtor305]

Linsanity brief moment did more for Knicks than Melo 😅

[@NobodyListens2CJD]

Why did he take a shot at Lin

[@MrOctober44]

Jealousy

[@NostraSamus]

He always does because he is jealous.

[@Neo24931]

Bunch of losers blaming an all-time winner on how a winning culture is made… Phil lost when there was no buy-in from these players. King Midas couldn’t turn that team to gold.

[@BluntFrankTrauma]

Melos a cornball for hating on Lin it’s not hard to see why he was never a winner

[@DO02129]

Melo really thought he was the saviour of New York lol. Had a mediocre career (at best) with the Knicks then got his bum ass turned into a minimum player. His name will be forgotten in a few years while Linsanity will live on forever

[@GoingMach5]

Linsanity was hot until Melo came back from injury. He stopped that ball and it was over.

[@ADiazNY85]

Melo with the cheap shots #staypetty

[@joeykhan4703]

Lin will never be on the level melo was cry more

[@theblacone6227]

BD was high as gas, that linsanity comment was funny af.😂

[@trueempire8948]

Phil is a all time great HEAD COACH not a President/GM. I knew from day 1 it wouldnt work out because Phil had ZERO experience as a executive of a team.

[@speakthetruth7679]

Yet these Knicks fan still blaming Melo

[@HernanMendez-ws4ed]

@@speakthetruth7679 The guy with 1 Conference Finals who’s a well known blackhole on offense and defensive liability?

[@jaydell4039]

Phil was trash. How did he do with Kobe Dwight nash and Pau

[@jmolson027]

Trade Randle and Robinson for some bench pieces/picks. Brunson, DiVincenzo, Hart, Anunoby, Hartenstein is a solid starting 5 if they're healthy, they just need more depth they can rely on.

[@Stonecoldalston]

The Knicks was trash before Phil got there

[@keithmurray3827]

Phil didn't help anything working from Manhattan Beach 😅

[@jahmalscovens6180]

C u proof people comment and don't know shit check the records

[@MidtownMeezus]

After Thibs, Woodson is my favorite Knicks coach. He had the team right

[@patitoduck123]

Melo can’t hide his hate lol crazy

[@pedrogates3189]

This make me think when Stephen A said “Phil Jackson what did he do , he signed a Lamar Odom he signed a CRACKHEAD for god sakes “😂😂😂

[@GridPenalties]

“It’s gone die off?” 😂😂😂

[@xci_radio2211]

Melo REALLY needed to take that shot at Lin damn ...........

[@lennonmarley6286]

What year was this BD talking about 4:26??

[@user-dg1qz1wf7m]

Melo wasn't great either. Asshole Dolan stepped on Donnie Walsh's toes and traded not only half the team, but more picks. We could've waited for the offseason.

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

He threatened to go to the Nets. Corona Anthony wont admit it.

[@johnnybraxton5539]

Melo definitely took nights off during those last two seasons with the Knicks

[@bjjohnson9710]

@@Cantstopfactsbruhstill sucking Melo off

[@MrXzist]

They can sit there and disrespect Phil all they want. How many rings they got again? I thought so

[@jaydell4039]

How did Phil get those rings oh yeah the top two shooting guards all time, a top 5 center all time and Scottie Pippen the ultimate Swiss Army knife. Who the hell was on the Knicks. Also Phil never coached the damn Knicks he hired Derek fuccing fisher

[@timmytv7554]

Phil Jackson did not want the job and had never performed a rebuild. Dolan was why that deal happened.

[@carltonrudolph]

Trade randle for bridges I want to see bridges with this group

[@a-tre8798]

Carmelo ruined the Knicks with the trade when he could have waited until free agency. He was jealous of Jeremy Lin and chose money over winning. Melo is very bitter because he accomplished nothing as an NBA player

[@Stairway2.7]

Accomplished nothing? Lol get the hate out your heart

[@a-tre8798]

​@Stairway2.7 He had Stephen A Smith begging for a team to sign him. A player with accomplishments doesn't need another man to beg for him to get signed

[@tylercanton3836]

@@a-tre8798lol and who you are? What have you accomplished? Can you make it to the NBA?

[@a-tre8798]

​@tylercanton3836 Try again that's the typical response any Melo Stan comes with ...

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

​@@Stairway2.7 Nothing of relevance. 0 First Team All Nba's 1 Conference Finals appearance 1 Scoring Title There's a reason his old teams didn't sign him after going on tv with Stephen A Smith to beg for a roster spot.

[@josephlogel7158]

Did Phil kill the Knicks or did Melo? Bc from where I’m sitting I don’t see how a GM, he was a GM killed the Knicks and not the guy who came in after Stoudamire had the Knicks firing on ALL cylinders..to me it looks like Melo killed the Knicks …Melo was a ball stopper and Phil was a 12x NBA champion..FOH bro

[@redman6790]

Nova Knicks is better than Knickstape because of several factors: - Nova Knicks are an embodiment of Knicks culture imo (as close to 90's Knicks as we have seen) - FO competency - Weak East helps significantly (basically not having one of the all time greats dominate and bully everyone gives the rest hope) - Supporting case is far better with Nova Knicks - The final one is the most controversial but Brunson is better in Post Season than Melo

[@juice07x]

Nobody asking Carmelo tough questions. Too many people waving the Melo pom poms. Carmelo taking zero accountability all these years later.

[@colinnixon7739]

Melo was never that guy. He chuck wagon. It's been proven 😂

[@AceJC201]

Season ticketholder during this era. Melo canceled Linsanity

[@bohammondlee7472]

How did you feel when he was scared to play the Heat in the first round that year? He said he was injured when everyone was banged up. Then followed that up by signing that poison pill contract with the Rockets? How u felt the next season when Carmelo led them to the 2nd seed and then Phil came in and tore the whole team the next year.

[@Anything_goes_]

phil jackson tried to motivate these guys to compete, he didnt ruin a thing , these guys were just lazy

[@rizz97pl]

Phil can only coach the best players aka HoF only... He's not Larry Brown. If it was for that triangle which didn't create and MJ & MJ 2.0 ... he'd have no rings...also the best rebounders & defenders & 3pt shooters in NBA history.

[@bosho871]

Those same players played many years without Phil. How many rings did THEY win? Kobe and Shaq’s Laker teams were trash until Phil came. Plus Phil still managed to get the Bulls deep in the playoffs without MJ. He may be an ass but he’s a great coach.

[@Hunter_s_morrison]

If and buts eh lmao!!! ... facts say 10 rings ..

[@CCEkeke]

@@Hunter_s_morrison 11 Rings. 6 with MJ + Pippen. 3 with Shaq & Kobe. 2 with Kobe.

[@Hunter_s_morrison]

@@CCEkeke 11 sorry ..lol

[@SupaNatural28]

Nah brah he definitely managed EGOs on his way to 10 rings. That's very hard to do.

[@ButchBrown7]

That's facts 👍the Fans energy is kinda Linsanity. I liked Mike Woodson

[@cbrown940]

Linsanity was a national, maybe international campaign.

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Yes, because before Phil, the Knicks were contenders, right? Let's blame the HoF coach but not the inefficient ballstopper that's subpar at defense and teamball with 0 First Team All Nba's. I'm still waiting to pay the first person who proves he was blackballed. But melo fans dont want free money, or they know that him being blackballed is just a narrative. (Lie)

[@alphabarry4115]

I look at melo’s career and come to one conclusion…he was selfish…Jeremy Lin was a breath of fresh air the Knicks needed but because Linda it’s took attention from melo he had to go. When melo went to pic & wanted him to play 6 man…ego wouldn’t let him. There’s more examples but I won’t rant lmao

[@XFactorz17]

If the answer is not “because he put his faith in Melo by resigning him” then it’s a bs waste of time.

[@duffman1876]

When Phil did something GOOD most don't say much because he did draft Porzingy but the New Yorkers were ungrateful and booed😅🍻🍺

[@DangleFront]

Davis was washed in NY…what is he talking about…

[@colinnixon7739]

Yup.

[@WarTheory]

It’s not on Phil the Knicks always failed…it’s on James Dolan….when Donnie said Denver wanted to much for Melo, James took over the trade negotiation and he traded all his starter’s for Melo and CB and I think 2 or 3 others… Thomas was horrible before Donnie ….than Donnie left and you saw how good he made the pacers……. People forget history….

[@Jcrysis]

No disrespect.... but your account of history is wrong. Melo was already with the Knicks for 3 years before Phil came there and destroyed the Knicks with his terrible drafting (Knox & Ntilikina), terrible free agent signings (Derrick Rose Joakim Noah) and terrible trades( Kristaps traded away for nearly nothing). Sorry....Phil was the WORST executive we've had since I've been a fan and he alienated our one star, Carmelo. He was a bum for us.

[@WarTheory]

@@Jcrysis I've been a fan of the New York Knicks since 1984.... who said Phil got melo?it was Dolan that forced that trade ... I think you need to reread my post.... Isaiah Thomas was the absolute worst. Phil Jackson was second worst....

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Waiting till the off-season would've been the intelligent move but his fans say he would've been broke.

[@WarTheory]

@@Cantstopfactsbruh but he would've had a better team around him... They literally traded all the starters, and like two of the Best bench players... look at that trade...melo should've waited...

[@gyfgyf2836]

If you're such a knicks fan then u know the real story.. First of all Scott Layden destroyed the knicks... Isaiah came in and tried to do patchwork with names and contracts and failed unfortunately. As for Melo.. why do yall continue this narrative? Denver wasn't gonna let him walk for nothing in free agency he said that the only extension he would sign is in NY.... MEANING at the time the NJ Nets.. do u remember this at all? It was all but certain that Melo was going to Jersey who was moving to Brooklyn? Do u have any memory of that? The Knicks desperate to put a star next to Amare put together a better package than the Nets... The rest is history...Draft picks are a dice roll my brother u don't know what those are gonna be.. And Mozgov Gallanari, Chandler never went on to be great players the knicks regret giving up we got Felton back for the love of GOD what was so precious that was lost in that trade yall harp on so much? The Knicks would be assholes with a shit front office if they twiddled their thumbs and let Melo go to BK with D Will and Brook lopez right?....Did u expect Chauncy to tear his Achilles and retire in the 1st round against Boston? Or for Amare to have back spasms and NEVER look like anything close to the guy that was signed from Phoenix? Knick fan my ass

[@collider12]

Damn i still say Knickstape I didn’t know the full story

[@sophisticated_savage]

That knicks team wasnt winning anything regardless 🤷‍♂️

[@shawny55971]

porzingis was the only thing good that happened to new york while phil was there

[@johnnybraxton5539]

Phil took that job strictly for the money

[@jwill9237]

And Melo didn't right?

[@user-dg1qz1wf7m]

People forget that Isaiah was worse. It took us up until 2023 to recover from Isaiah. Phil was awful, but Isaiah started our downfall and ruined brand.

[@vladokingsley3775]

Melo a hater bro

[@ohdaUtube]

Melo, it won't die off cause they don't have a player like you that would kill it... Also, they weren't running that triangle at a high level... it ain't Phil either..

[@raphael9783]

Melo put himself before the team hating on jeremy lin.

[@585lynch]

I actually thought they was gonna do damage that year but when baron knee caved in I was like wtf Phil was just in it for the money who wouldn’t when Dolan gave him that hefty contract an literally begged him to take over the team

[@wafeeqzarif]

Carmello Anthony is s real one. Linsanity wasn't sustainable.

[@qnz57glory]

Melo too much of an alpha to let Barron speak and take over… this is why he had to look at the jester.

[@hexagonoctogon3140]

Nah melo it was all your fault bro

[@lamontlauren367]

Still mad about Baron leaving 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@JQUE94]

Bro that knee injury was horrific. Cracked his kneecap I believe but may be wrong

[@lamontlauren367]

@@JQUE94 you’re on point it was the knee

[@JQUE94]

@@lamontlauren367 I remeber watching it live and seeing the other players raw reaction. Then the camera got a quick glimpse of it and looked like the knee caved in towards the middle of the kneecap 🤯

[@lamontlauren367]

@@JQUE94 took the morale out of the whole organization 🤦🏾‍♂️ they ain’t been right until last season

[@Talkitrhrough]

This was one of the most nonsensical, inarticulate, meandering discussions I’ve ever listened to.

[@Moorsho]

Melo low key a hater dude never cared about winning you could tell he sees as him scoring 60 points and losing that’s a win for him which is unfortunate.

[@S-TierIguess]

Nobody wants to give melo credit for having to deal with that

[@crazirok]

Mello should be rookie of the year , my favorite in his draft class, when lin went off, I was in boot camp never saw any of him, I heard mello was jealous of lin, if mello based on rumors was a leader and team player, my knick would have done better

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

Because he gutted the roster instead of waiting till free agency

[@Getloose360]

​@@Cantstopfactsbruhyup

[@bjjohnson9710]

@@Cantstopfactsbruhhe didn’t do anything .. they could of simply said no .. by the way those players were washed in one season

[@Cantstopfactsbruh]

@@bjjohnson9710 Corona Anthony never did nuffin'

[@NostraSamus]

Melo ruined the Knicks. He was begging to get on a team in the end because no one wanted him. Did a whole lot of nothing during his tenure as a Knick. He was mad that Lin was more exciting for 3 weeks.

[@edwinl2793]

I agree man.

[@TheOnesimple]

Real Basketball people know Carmelo on the team was a cancer no disrespect to him. He’s a Hall of Famer but he held the ball too much and that’s why the Knicks were bad for year after year after year even before Phil stop the nonsense take accountability. Do people actually take accountability?

[@stantheman9969]

Absolutely

[@speakthetruth7679]

Yall blaming Melo how many coaches did he have? After winning 57 games they changed the team

[@MrOctober44]

He's a cancer...but no disrespect. 😂

[@delroyscarlett425]

How was melo a cancer? You guys are bugging for saying foolishness like that

[@TheOnesimple]

@@delroyscarlett425 are you old enough to remember mellow playing? he held the ball too long. There was no movement in all fences that he was a part of and he never took accountability for his play but points the finger at coaches like step your game up and take a accountability.. it’s the lack of accountability for me. He don’t like being called out for his bad play

[@Lyfecycles]

They should've kept Mike Woodson

[@furyy4273]

Melo a haterrrrrrrrrr Sorry b you never brought excitement to your hometown like Lin or present time.