Base model 14" M3 MacBook Pro: NOT what I expected AT ALL

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The NEW M3 and M3 Pro MacBook Pros are out, and boy are these some hyped up computers! The first laptops to employ 3nm microarchitecture and the first MacBooks with hardware raytracing, they promise some impressive gains! Today we'll put that to the test by examining the base model M3 MacBook Pro- how much faster is M3 vs M2 MacBook Pro? What has changed for the base 14 inch MacBook Pro? And what about M3 vs M3 Pro? Let's get into it!
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Time stamps
0:00 The controversial 14”
2:47 Teardown- internal differences
3:45 Smaller battery?
5:00 Benchmarks
5:21 Fan noise
6:00 CPU scores
6:58 Blender CPU
7:42 Blender GPU
8:48 GFXBench
9:47 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
11:05 SSD Speed test
12:02 Final Cut Pro Render
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[@EbenPajanconi]

Everyone talks about exporting on Final Cut but no one ever mentions the scrubbing performance or adding plugins/luts. Showing REAL WORLD use for all apps instead of the export times would be so appreciated.

[@Schaelpy]

Some use cases besides video editing would be nice. ML, simulation or compiling code would be more interesting for me

[@mirelurk-fish7387]

just did it on the base m3 14 inch macbook pro and the desktop or springboard for macos crashed due to lack of ram haha

[@alexfvcruz]

yeah this is more important than rendering times because i’m not using the machine during rendering

[@lukemiani]

Thing is, scrubbing and timeline performance is so good on all Apple Silicon machines that you won't notice a difference if I show them side by side

[@crlax222]

@@lukemianii get stuttering on m1 max with h.265 10 bit 4:2:2 footage. i would upgrade if the new m3 didn’t give me this issue.

[@sir.fender6034]

8GBs of non-upgradable memory on a $1600 "Pro" laptop is absolutely criminal.

[@TheDumontShow]

It is. That's too low of a memory for that price. At least give the customer 16 out of the gate. They make you give an arm and a leg for extra memory

[@GigaDarth]

@@TheDumontShowyeah I’d much rather get 16 gigs of ram then the 512gb ssd cause one you upgrade the ram just buy the m3 pro model

[@timrault]

I feel like they shouldn't even ship any MacBook Pro with an M3 chip, only M3 Pro and Max. And keep M3 for the MacBook Air/Mac mini/iMac

[@DavideDavini]

@@timraultI disagree. I for instance don’t need a lot of CPU power but I don’t want it to throttle too much. It is imperative my laptop has an active cooling system. I’m sure I’m not alone in this. Cheers.

[@timrault]

@@DavideDavini Right, that makes sense ! Then I feel like 12Gb of RAM would have been a sweet spot for that M3 MacBook Pro

[@DJDannyN2009]

Finally. A review that’s not bashing the base M3 model.

[@PoofyisDead]

I feel like it’s better to compare to the binned m2 pro since it’s significantly more comparable in normal budgets

[@Anteater23]

The reviewers who don’t get invited to apple events seem to be the only ones I enjoy watching…

[@paolaanimator]

I'm very thrilled to see even the M3 chips that's not M3 Max are performing very well. I know you're getting the M3 Max laptops more later, but I'm pretty sure they will be a beast. I'm into 3D animation and recently been learning to code. I have always wanted a laptop with power and long battery life, and I feel like it's finally here. Especially if it has that much power and it can run on battery, that's a big bonus for me. I'm aiming for maxed out RAM, M3 Max and extra storage. My current Apple laptop is a 2017 intel Macbook Air, it was during high school so I didn't realize how much I needed extra performance until I decided on a major in college and now in a job that I needed extra performance (animation, video editing). Looking forward to seeing more of your testing videos. I am personally curious how well is the 3D performance, because it's not just rendering, I'll have to scrub through the timeline, there may be lights and physics, lots of keyframes, rendering in 4K, how dense the 3D mesh will be, high resolution textures, etc.

[@williamdlc3]

Please M1 Pro/Max benchmark comparisons too!! Would love to see how far theyve come.

[@siggenx]

Hey Luke. The most interesting comparison in my opinion is between m3 base and m2 Pro base.

[@MyronZhao]

Would love to see the 15" M2 MacBook Air vs the 14" M3 MacBook Pro base model!

[@paigeme886]

Yes!

[@JoshF848]

I'd rather see a comparison between the base M3 Pro and the 2 sizes of M2 Airs. Are the improved display, bump in performance and the other niceties that the Pro offers enough to justify the price difference over the thinner, cheaper options?

[@user-sj5ju4jb7t]

Fan noise is equally important to me as performance is. Thanks for taking that into account. A crazy fan completely destroys focus when I try to work.

[@mikekaylor1226]

Great review! You have the best look at the space black color; it's much darker than space gray. The performance is incredible on both M3s. I bought the base M2 Pro in May, and it is a stunning computer, but I still want an M3.

[@youssefkarmous6227]

I got M2 pro base model back in May also and I’m pretty pissed 😤.

[@michvod]

I have a 14-inch M1 Pro, just one year old. Would really love to see it compare to M3 and M3 Pro

[@devrenfreestone1272]

If it’s not too late, seeing how M1 and M1 Pro compare would also be really nice for those of us with those machines. Great video, as always! So nice that you didn’t jump on the “8GB sucks” train.

[@cadenchurchill4296]

I would love to see that too!

[@maximilianbredow6374]

Yeah I’d love to see M1 Pro vs M3

[@MatthewOlls]

@@maximilianbredow6374m1 pro has 60% better gpu performance

[@its_maalik]

M3 is slower than M1 Pro unbinned as per my testing on a 16 inch device. I got a multicore score of 826 on cinebench which is honestly quite close to the M3 Pro considering it’s 2 years old at this point.

[@sangbithde]

8GB sucks is an universal truth, why are you defending a rich tech company when more ram is always good for the customer

[@sweatbox128]

i actually think it's more likely they used a smaller battery on the base model not because they didnt want to make it "overpowered", but they knew they could get away with it since the chip is less powerful, and theyre already trying to upsell the better models by pricing the base model as it is, so they could kill 2 birds with one stone. reduce BOM cost for the lowest SKU (higher margin) and create an artificial advantage for the higher end models

[@Waltertmccabe]

Thank you for this comparison because these are the 3 Mac’s I am debating between to upgrade from my i7 MBP. I am actually one who likes the Touch Bar so that’s why I am thinking about the 13in but the speeds and display are pulling me to go M3 or M3 Pro

[@makromizer]

These are some interesting results. But when you look at value propositions, the baseline M3 MBP has basically the same size, weight and (street) price as the 14" M2 MBP. The latter has some significant advantages. Not only is if faster in almost anything other than single core tasks (and perhaps some special cases like raytracing), but it also supports more than 1 external display and comes with 16 instead of 8 GB RAM. The basic M3 MBP might have a bit better battery life, but all in all I think the 14" (!) M2 MBP would be better value. Oh and whatever you do, just make sure not to buy the 13" M2 MBP (except maybe if you get some huge discount).

[@saturnotaku]

Your testing validates my decision to go with the 12 CPU/18 GPU M3 Pro 14 over the 11 CPU/14 GPU version. I'm super excited to put mine through its paces.

[@rg975]

The M3 cores are so good they had to cut two performance cores from the M3 Pro compared to the M2 pro, in exchange for two efficiency cores, to make the M3 max look more appealing. I bought an M1 Max MBP almost two years ago so I’m good for another few years still, but if I was buying a MBP today, I would go with an unbinned M3 Pro. I would LOVE to see a benchmark between the full M1 Max and the full M3 Pro

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

no, the max got even more p cores

[@DylanLandro]

Whats unbinned mean? Im thinking about upgrading from an M1 Air.

[@rg975]

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Only talking about the M3 pro getting p cores cut compared to the M2 pro, not the M3 max

[@rg975]

@@DylanLandro Binning essentially means there are different tiers of M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max chips. For the M3 pro chips there is a version with 11core cpu and 14core gpu, and then there’s a version with an extra performance core unlocked and more gpu cores, so 12core cpu and 18core gpu. If you’d like a quick breakdown of the binning process, check this link out kzbin.info/www/bejne/naDala2Ye7atppIsi=1CYhvAgj8VRZpR6s

[@TechKile]

couldnt agree more

[@arashamorzesh2384]

I would really like to see a comparison with M1 pro MacBook Pro Cuz base M3 Vs M1 Pro In value comparison would be interesting.

[@calledout4437]

Hey great review! It helped me confirm that I made a great decision. I bought the M2 Pro back in mid September, but as soon as they announced the M3, I was still within the return period. Returned that bad boy and now waiting for my M3 Pro Max! I just wasn't so sure how much of a speed difference there would be but now I see it's a lot! Thanks

[@Mooooooof]

The one we’ve all been waiting for Edit: Wow, really impressed with the base M3, can’t wait to see it in the Air as well. I was very skeptical about how it would perform but it deserves its place in the mbp. Should’ve been 16GB base ram though. Interested to see how the M3 base mbp compares with M1 Pro (10cpu) & M2 Pro (10/12cpu).

[@psycl0ptic]

no, don't toss it in the air.

[@smitmiras]

@@psycl0ptic😂

[@Hi-how-are-you-today.]

I disagree it should have 8gb of ram it’s replacing the 13’ MacBook Pro which also has 8gb.

[@arlencarlson]

@@psycl0pticApple might…but not sure how. They appear to have a thermal issue now to work around.

[@abnerphilipe]

@@Hi-how-are-you-today.cmon, at least 12GB would have been a great deal for a PRO laptop with a PRO price 😂

[@DrSaahb]

Great videos and I am looking forward to more comparisons with the M3 chip, M2 and M1! Keep up the great work

[@MissionControlTet]

I appreciate it a lot! Would you mind to make a comparison between M3, M2 Pro and M1 Max 14 inches? I'm interested how newer lower tier stacks up against last generation's higher tier

[@carlosdelacova1943]

I upgraded from the 2020 M1 MacBook Air to the base 2023 M3 MacBook Pro and I love it. It suits my purposes and runs extremely well and very fast. Thanks for the great video. It helped me make the right decision. The 8GB of memory is okay with me since I am not using my M3 MacBook Pro for the heavy duty purposes.

[@09Sayandeep]

Is there a noticeable performance improvement?

[@YogaLaboratorium]

Thanks a ton for this video, Luke. Looks like the "Scary Fast" wasn't all that off the mark after all, at least for the base models. Waiting to see how much better is M3 Max and whether it's worth it over the M2 Studio

[@thomasmulford9420]

Luke, you are a nerd after my heart, thank you for running those RT Core blender renders. I have a m3 pro on its way, and blender is my main app.

[@QueenElizabeth1sth]

Keep up the great work!

[@brucekennedy5274]

This looks like good news! I’m looking at the base m3 14” just bumping it up to 16gb. I have an M1Max Studio which will remain what I do most of my work on, so I think this should be plenty as my on-the-go Mac. Opinions guys?

[@keef3po]

I love when you quickly dropped in "no Touch Bar" as an upgrade! LOL

[@pauldrule]

It's time for me to get a new Macbook, really trying to decide between M3 and M3 Pro... Exactly what you are showing here. Looking forward for move vids!

[@TomDelRosario]

Instead of just recording the fan noise, use a decibel meter app on your phone to measure the sound level. Much more objective nd you don’t have to worry about the recording device adjusting sound levels automatically

[@frazerweb]

Had a look m3 macs today, wasn't that impressed, but comparing display with macbook air showed off its superior monitor. The 14 felt small, but loved the 16 inch. I stick with my space grey mbp 13 it serves my needs. The m3 max will be a beast at rendering, be interesting to see that tested.

[@ahmedshelhaddad]

Which do you think is better value the M3 14" or the 15" Air?

[@edgarreyes6510]

wow Luke i loved loved this video, thank my man !!! my current setup is an m1 air but damn i kinda want these bad boys lol

[@timwildauer5063]

I’m really curious about M3 vs M1/2 Pro. If you have a Pro from the previous families, do you still need the Pro chip?

[@archie7012]

Luke, this is a very helpful video! Never thought there could be that much of a difference even between M3 and M3 Pro. Will you be showing off an M3 Max in comparison? I am still only getting the picture slowly. Since I am in Germany we get bleeded out a lot more money for the same machines, sadly. And I am already on a M1 Pro Maschine, which is still holding up pretty well. And especially thank you for cracking open this cases!

[@bryans8656]

I know the M3s will walk all over my M1 Pro MBP 14, but I got it refurbished with 16GB/1TB for less than the price of the base M3 MBP. The M1 is still enough of a beast for my use case.

[@the_RAMZAY]

As software engineer, my point of interest is in compile projects(in my case in dotnet and node.js) and building docker images. Right now I’m on base 2021 16’’ m1 pro(16/512) and very interested in capabilities of m3 lineup(pro and max). So, it will be very interesting to see more software engineering benchmarks. Thanks!

[@captainlennyjapan27]

You may already know but Alex Ziskind does exactly those tests for devs!

[@thewiirocks]

Generally these sorts of tasks are bound more by OS optimizations (many small sub-processes launching) than system performance. Development performance on modern machines is pretty much the same on just about anything you buy. The advantage of an Apple Silicon system is that they tend to handle multitasking better, providing you with a smoother experience flipping between coding and (ugh) Microsoft Office.

[@nickchan6498]

@@thewiirocksmacOS AMFI absolutely slows down compiling… it makes spawning processes not as fast, especially if the executable is freshly created. things like configure and make spawns a large amount of processes

[@yvesvandenbroek6055]

Saw a compile test of mozilla, the M3 max was the fastest of all Mac’s and 3x faster than Ryzen 9 and i9 PC laptop. It took 9 minutes on M2 Max and 5 minutes on the M3 Max

[@the_RAMZAY]

@@captainlennyjapan27 yep. He is Cool guy too :)

[@adamr4198]

Luke thanks for the great video. I would love to see a comparison between the base M3 and the M2 Pro (on similar configured systems). I want to know how much the 3nm architecture has changed things for us “typical users”.

[@Masters_Wheel]

That final cut export time on the m3 pro made the decision for me to buy. I've been using final cut on my 13 inch m2 air and while I never had any issues cutting and modifying my clips the export times left alot to be desired

[@straptin958]

Yeah.. definitely need that M3 Pro vs M2 Pro comparison from the indepth video!!

[@BornAgainFarmGirl]

Luke I was also very interested in the M3 pro’s background lighting, very bright and a beautiful cyan blue 😊!

[@KrishShah]

Potentially an interesting video idea: would the M3 pro's slightly bigger battery work in the base M3 macbook?

[@Nikitafrom233]

Many thanks for the content)

[@Mustang-mb7cg]

This is why I am subscribed to your channel👍

[@user-yu2zj8vo4n]

Would be great if in the next video there is head to head comparison of macbook pro with m2 pro and macbook pro with baseline m3

[@obamtl]

Hi Luke, can you add M1 Pro and M1 to the comparisons, or pull up old test results? I don’t think folks will upgrade from M2 to 3, but as someone on M1, I’m considering it.

[@dvdexpert]

Thank you for this review. I was curious about the base M3 SSD speed. I was and still am interested in upgrading from an awesome M1 air. The base M3 plus some ram seems really interesting. I went to see it in person and didn't like the size and heft. Personally I'm gonna wait for an M3 air and hope it performs a lot like the plain M3

[@jodie2025]

Luke,I was on the fence but I think that after seeing this video I will be upgrading. Thanks!

[@AudioBoris]

Base M3 MacBook Pro vs higher spec M2 pro (that will be discounted soon at stores) is the test I’m waiting for.

[@accentontheoff]

Thanks for thinking about music producer’s needs. Really helpful.

[@AlexUIUX]

To replace a 27 core i5 iMac with 64 ram, which Mac do you recommend for a very good upgrade in terms of power and everything? Without going to the most expensive

[@mavfan1]

Skipped to the end to see I'll have to wait til tomorrow to see the M3 Pro vs M2 Pro, see ya then

[@tom_bosher]

Would really appreciate some DAW benchmarking like tracks and plugins on Logic Pro and/or Pro Tools etc. Great early comparison video though appreciate the speed!

[@lakeline6317]

The numbers look good, but I'm still going to wait for the M4. I hope Apple will offer the M4 with 16/512 in a base configuration, also my MBP 2019 still running like a champ.

[@zackwallwork2419]

I’m still on a 2018 intel mbp because the m series can’t run inventor properly through parallels. Any chance you can do a video seeing if the new beefy gpu does the job?

[@dninjaman]

Have the bench marks improved on M2 chipset with software/OS updates. Have you rerun benchmarks on m2 to see if they have improved?

[@ultrasoundconcept]

Thanks Luke, much appreciated. Waiting on the M2 Pro Comparison.

[@theroadhome_Liz_Summers]

Great info! My 4th M3 video this morning and each with a slightly different set of info/perspective. I am an almost retired self-employed software developer: dotnetcore, Blazor, visual studio, C#, SQL Server. Hobby photographer/videographer (Adobe for all editing). My current machine is a 2/21 Dell XPS 15 9500 which does fine for everything and I will keep it with my latest work setup intact for client support as I phase out. All other devices are Apple and I plan on buying an Apple for MacBook … leaning towards M3 Pro. So, my situation is an entirely different type of “upgrade”. There is no hurry for me except that tax-wise it would be best to purchase before end of 2023 for my last year of full time business income.

[@ajaygadgetech]

But still have the 8GB of Unified Memory on a US$1599 laptop like, really Apple? 😒

[@andyH_England]

You can upgrade to 16GB or 24GB so it is not that you are complaining about the lack of RAM, just that it is expensive for those that think they need more RAM? If you need more RAM for your work then spend the extra as it will be worth it. Keep for 5 years and it is £40 extra per year.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

yes becuase 8GB is plenty more than anyone ever needs, if you want more you can get more, plenty more, AND pay more.

[@ajaygadgetech]

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl @amfrepo This is why used market exists, I can consider the used M1 Pro MacBook base for cheaper than this crap or considering the M2 Air 13 inch with 16/512GB for the same price as the M3 14" Pro base model with 8GB of Unified Memory.

We need those same benchmarks between the Pro and the maxed out Max 14". That thing must fly

[@nintendork07]

apparently the base M3 MBP is only PCIe 3.0, which explains why the SSD speeds top out at ~3000 mb/sec

[@innnews6299]

Please also do comparisons of render time when doing video upscaling using software like Topaz Video AI when using M3 vs M2 vs M1 machines. Thank you.

[@timtheguy82]

the best thing about these m3 macbook pros is the deals you can find for the m1 pro/max macs now

[@Craftysheep108-dp9pp]

hey luke my macbook pro recently stopped working and I was wondering if you had a spare macbook that is relitively new That you don't need if I could have it becaude I am currently doing my homework on my phone and It has proven to be verry dificult. Thanks

[@mikecantwell2703]

Nice to see the new MacBooks out in the wild. I just got one today, but I'm confused; it is the M3 Max binned model. I thought it was supposed to come out later in November, anyone else get their M3 Max MacBook Pro's early? Mine wasn't supposed to arrive until the 17th….

[@akap]

I wonder what size of difference one fan vs two will make. But nice to see that we're back to twice the NAND chips.

[@vitalis]

Can you also measure the temps in tomorrow's testing? It came up on MaxTech's channel that the M3 went up to 108C and started throttleling

[@geraldcapo4400]

I currently have the 13 inch m1 MacBook the one with the Touch Bar before the 14 inch came out. I’m thinking of getting the m3 max MacBook Pro 14 inch and would love to see the difference between these two computers

[@nathanreedy4380]

This was surprising honestly, because only 8GB memory?! Yeah that's surprising. But then this makes me feel all the more at ease with going with the 12 core CPU M3 Pro model with it's standard 18 GB memory when I am ready (that is I have enough money saved for it)

[@pilsplease7561]

yeah, I wanted to get a mac but the cost just was not worth it when it doesnt have the specs i need. Mostly in the ram department, was running out of ram with 32gb would need a m3 with 128gb ram but that would be impossible or too expensive to even be worth considering.

[@nathanreedy4380]

I also want to & I am looking forward to you comparing the M2 Pro to the M3 Pro in the 14" Luke, I forgot to say this earlier.

[@nicolasrivera5310]

great video!

[@terryclair2914]

At the beginning you mentioned a better keyboard??? Can't waite to see the M3 Max in operation!

[@EnzoFoove]

Whoaa I wasn't expecting the M3 Pro to do so well!

[@Acerdmen]

Please bring into the comparisons the M1 Pro as well! The market is full of second hand, refurbished and even brand new M1 Pro's, which can be really interesting to compare with that base M3!

[@timberthewolf733]

I have a base model M1 13" MBP, definitely looking at the M3 pro... but the base pro with 11 cores or 12 cpu cores... is there a huge difference?

[@rcarter1690]

7:42 Please show render settings setting clearly, did you use MetalRT or just Metal? Also what version of blender did you use?

[@cph630]

Seriously considering upgrading my M1 MacBook Pro to the base M3 MacBook Pro. Looks like it would be a sizeable performance gain & better screen etc.

[@buhraion3873]

Can you do a comparison with the M1 pro and Max as well? Most people dont upgrade every year and everyone else always just does m2 vs m3, but it would be nice to get more relevant information.

[@Zantsak]

I agree, I do not upgrade every year and generally skip one or two generations.

[@edgarchocoj6632]

Hi Luke, just a quick question for you, I’m planning to get a new Mac , the o e that I have is an iMac late 2012 the new iMac I don’t really like, I was reading the reviews about the M3 Mac Pro and what do you think about it.

[@PCJesus0]

You should try resident evil village on the m2 vs m3. It’s one of the only games that could show the differences on this new machines

[@DamaxThomas]

I'm on an Macbook Air M1 with 16GB RAM and 512GB of SSH. I'm a software engineer. The few slowdown I noticed is not enough to change yet. Compare to the 16" Intel Macbook Pro, it was slow all the time. It is nice that Apple computers last long and excellent performance. It gonna help to have more Macs in the second hand market and ultimately more Macs in general. Even I'm not in the market for a new computer, I like to see the improvements. It is puzzling to say "it's only 5fps difference" meaning it's "only" a 15% improvement ... it's huge already.

[@dorinai]

That’s true but I have the M2 MacBook Air 13” with 8GB Ram and 256GB ssd, and I used it for SLog3 10-Bit footage shot on FX-30 in XAVC S / H264 and HEVC and I added about 14 effects when color grading and editing, stacked 4K clips and even if it used the NAND ssd for the past year, and it wrote 4TB to the SSD using swap, keeping in mind that the TBW (total bytes written) on the 256GB Slower base SSD is 150TB, but it can go far more than that. And for me I still have 100% life percentage. For people that want to know what app I used, I used DriveDX for in depth reports. And macOS is amazing at memory management. For me it’s been no problem, now I ordered the base model M3 MBP as my first MBP and I don’t regret it even a slight bit due to its active cooling and ports.

[@mariolafontaine5853]

I'm looking for using a MacBook Pro for CAD design and I will have to use Parallels for installing windows11 to run my cad softwares. I love my actual MacBook pro(2012!) but it doesn't allows me to use modern programs on it because of his age. So my question is: is it fast enough to run parallels and win 11 and my cad software? I use something similar to SolidWorks. My Rhino7 and Shapr3D are already ported to Sonoma it shouldn't be a problem for those two. Well well well...

[@FluffyPuppyKasey]

As impressive as the M3 Pro is, for less money, my RTX 3070TI equipped laptop renders Blender's classroom scene in 36.93s using CUDA. Using OptiX, it's no contest, 22.81s including loading render kernels, 20.83s for the second render once it's loaded them. For the same price for this generation, you could get something with an RTX 4080, which would very likely perform faster than, and if not, at least match, M3 Max. Sure Macs have advantages but price just isn't one of them. Still gonna pick one up since I do prefer them when it comes to laptops. For desktops I'm gonna stick with my 7950X3D + RTX 4090 machine. I'd absolutely love to see a price-competitive PC comparison though!

[@voltezo]

Please do a video comparing the base M3 Macbook Pro to the M1 Pro Macbook Pro 14”! They are both similar in price, and I’m super curious to see which is better.

[@MunroMcLaren]

Is the battery life good? And what is binned?

[@deemonbl4]

You should have compared the two with a M1 Pro MBP, the first of them all. How it performs for a regular non-hardcore user as a "daily notebook". I've bought mine M1 Pro just 2 years ago and it's not that old to upgrade, nor it's slow to ask for more performance.

[@cjit26]

I was thinking on getting a refurbished MacBook pro 14 with M1 pro, 16gb ram and 1tb storage for like $1300, should I get this instead? Idk if the 8gb ram would really make it for my usage scenario (programming and some photo/video editing)

[@frankspecht632]

M3 Pro also in 11 Core 5/6 CPU less one Core and 4 GPU, vs. 12 Core 6/6 ? Or Better + 1 CPU and 4 GPU vs more RAM from 18 to 36 Option?

[@chrisw443]

How is the new imac? I'm most curious about that.

[@MrLogansimmons]

I was honestly considering an M2 15in Macbook Air but these M3s seem to be much better.

[@MrQuay03]

Always go Pro

[@ProtectusCZ]

@@MrQuay03unless you want portability

[@ArtemiyNizovtsev]

So what would be the better choice right now, the base model M1 Pro 16/512 or the base M3, non-pro 8/512? I really need a new computer soon and these are the two options I would be able to afford. Extra RAM on M1 Pro seems appealing because I constantly have to use Windows through Parallels for work, but my base M1 Air seems to handle that job fine right now. So is that base M3 more powerful than base M1 Pro? Would it be more future-proof?

[@petervanpuyvelde8959]

Thatcher would-be be a relevant comparison

[@muhammadrivan2055]

Please compare macbook 14 M1 pro vs Macbook m3.. should i upgrade from m1 pro to base m3

[@techinrl9869]

Don’t forget that the M3 MBP also starts at 512GB, twice the amount of storage the M2 MBP had. If you count that as a $200 upgrade, which it would have been for the M2 MBP, that’s only a $100 difference to get all the good stuff the 14” chassis and screen give us.

[@shapelessed]

Quite honestly I would happily stick with 256GB and pour all my budget into RAM... But I'm a web dev, I don't need much storage, what I do need is a lot of memory. IDEs, VMs, containers... Let alone an indexed workspace...

[@sadboykratos5137]

I agree that's why I pre ordered mine last week. That and also thru best buy I got $100 off the price

[@livedreamsg]

$200 for 256 more GB and you don't see a problem with this?

[@sadboykratos5137]

@livedreamsg I don't agree with their practices in what they are giving us and charging us 200 for a storage upgrade and 200 for ram upgrade . That Being said I still think the base model is worth it even though I wish it by default came with 16gb of ram

[@techinrl9869]

@@livedreamsg Why should I? Have you checked other computer vendors? For instance, I looked up Dell. They charge $150. I looked up Microsoft. Their Surface Laptop is 8/256 and they charge $200 to upgrade to 16GB. It’s the going rate. If Apple is being extortionist, so is everyone else.

[@mnsl0826]

Noticed the test was done while both machines were not plugged in, wonder if that will make a difference?

[@charliesdrones6413]

Nice review can't to see the comparison with the M3Max I'm on the fence to get the M3 Pro 12 core cpu 18 core gpu 36 gb memory with 2 TB of storage or just get the Basic M3 Max with 1 TB storage also like to see how hot they run I have a 2013 MacBook Air right now LOL so I need the upgrade it's too bad that Apple doesn't have exchangeable parts like my old air which I put in a 1TB internal SSD

[@tubecycler]

Thanks for comparing the non binned M3 Pro with 1TB. Probably gonna buy it. Most focus on the entry M3 Pro and that one seems to be not so good…

[@Agent.R.]

Thanks for the vid! I'm considering getting the exact M3 Pro 1TB laptop you purchased so I'm really interested in your upcoming videos. I'm coming from an i5 Intel iMac so I really only care about the M3 comparisons. A lot of people have been dogging the M3 Pro chip and saying that you should just get the M3 Standard but the speed differences are pretty significant. Worth the money? It's at least a maybe yes now as opposed to a flat out no.

[@elitetteh]

I think the point of those dogging M3Pro is this: all 3 new chips are leaps and bounds beyond intel so you will feel the improvement no matter which you pick. But whereas the generational leap from intel to M1 was large and consistent, the leap to M2 was smaller (but still consistent across models). This most recent leap to M3 has been inconsistent. So a large leap going from base M2>M3, a tiny leap from M2Pro>M3Pro, and then a large leap from M2Max to M3Max. Given the price increase, going from M2 base to M3 base feels worth it for a 20-40% performance boost. And going from M2Max to M3Max also feels worth it for a 30-60% performance boost. But M2Pro to M3Pro is a 5-15% boost. It’s the least improved of the bunch. And at a time when you can get last years M2Pro in stores for 20-30% cheaper, knowing it’s only 5% slower makes the old machine a steal. So the point isn’t that M3Pro is a bad DEVICE, but rather that it’s a bad DEAL. M3Base and M3Max are better bang for your buck.

[@ken7562]

from the teardown it seems there are no longer more slots for more ssds chips like in m1 pro and m2 pro? so if you upgrade the disk space you no longer get better speed?