Why MLB’s All-Time Cy Young Leader Is NOT In the Hall of Fame

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How do you define Roger Clemens? Clemens was extreme. He threw harder than everyone else. He was bigger than everyone else. He won more Cy Young Awards than everyone else. Clemens was explosive. He hit opposing batters on purpose. He fought his managers. He once threatened to assault Hank Aaron. Yes, that Hank Aaron.
Even his nickname, Rocket, was a reference to both his pitch speed, and his propensity for outbursts. He could be intimidating, volatile, and aggressive. He was also one of the most dominant pitchers of his era, if not all-time. However, in spite of his success on the field, Clemens’ career has been overshadowed by controversy and scandal, turning what was once a surefire Hall of Famer into an outcast from the game.
You might think you know Roger Clemens. But do you know the whole story? Let’s get into it.
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[@PatriotsVideos]

The fact people upvote this comment just kind of outs the fact you use bot accounts, dippy.

[@franguidry2017]

Not true😮

[@SmoothCriminal12]

Legend has it that Clemens' congress testimony was so painful to watch, it put Carl Pavano back on the IL.

[@dukedematteo1995]

@@SmoothCriminal12 and yet he was acquitted in like 12 seconds

[@amantedelcane420]

There was nothing wrong with calling it the "DL." You wokerati ruin everything.

[@tjstreamer5982]

He handed out signed photos of himself TO HIS TEAMMATES

[@Wes_Is_A_Mess]

Based

[@ChezFontaine-l4g]

@@Wes_Is_A_Mess when u know u know.

[@Billionaireben]

Michael Jordan probably wouldn't be that generous.

[@matthewtaylor1927]

Big, angry, and overly aggressive.... no signs of steroid use.... yep none at all.

[@dukedematteo1995]

He was like that from Day 1. He used steroids in his late 30s.

[@poindextertunes]

roid rage is a myth

[@imandan1966]

@@poindextertunes ok buddy

[@amantedelcane420]

​@@imandan1966 It is.

[@amantedelcane420]

You sound exceptionally ignorant.

[@80srocknroller]

In The Simpsons episode Homer At The Bat he acted like a chicken

[@BaseballHistorian]

My sources confirm this as true.

[@jackmorrison8269]

Get rid of those sideburns!!😂

[@wvu05]

​@@jackmorrison8269 I don't know what you think sideburns are, so here you go.

[@Mc-ln3gr]

One of the all time great Simpson’s episodes.

[@vijaynair2403]

“You can’t kill umpires. It’s just not allowed” - Commissioner Fay Vincent 😂 Best quote ever!

[@DGS2605]

Y'know... this guy would've been looked back on more fondly if he didn't throw that broken bat at his father, Mike Piazza.

[@blacjackdaniels200]

He wasn’t throwing it at him. He just chucked it and all that happened. It was a knee-jerk reaction. All you people who make fun of him for saying I thought it was the ball” have either never played or are just plain ignorant. Piazza swung and the chunk of the bat came flying towards him so he reacted. Obviously before he threw it he knew it was the bat but he just tossed it out of frustration.

[@PTANV-x2g]

@blacjackdaniels200 This!! These idiots who criticize him for it have obviously never played baseball, or probably any fast-paced sport. Things happen FAST on the mound. But these idiots talk as though they have a clue.

[@blacjackdaniels200]

@@PTANV-x2g exactly! Line drives right back at you when you’re pitching a scary as shit. You don’t have but a millisecond to react, and God only knows what that’s like when you were throwing the ball 98 mph and somebody is hitting it back at you just as fast or faster. Clemens did nothing wrong in that encounter. He probably got frustrated after the bat came at him like that and he just picked it up and tossed to the side like fuck this shit. He didn’t look up there Mike Piazza let me throw this piece of wood at him. It’s astonishing. The fact that Tim McCarver, who knows more baseball than anyone, was saying that Clemens was wrong. Just made it worse because that’s everybody’s biggest argument. But people forget Tim McArver is more of a Mets guy than the Yankees guy that’s for sure

[@MountainStreamLives]

@@blacjackdaniels200he threw it due to roid rage. He also beamed Piazza in the head with his hardest pitch because he couldn’t get him out. Don’t defend him. It’s a bad look for you.

[@MountainStreamLives]

@@blacjackdaniels200yeah? Name someone else who threw a broken bat immediately out of rage for no reason? He was roided out and angry that the batter owned him and that he hadn’t killed him with the pitch. No remorse. No apology. No explanation. Just a cheater who revealed the monster within.

[@wiseogjc370]

When your ambition and arrogance is greater than living a life of integrity and sportsmanship.

[@ChezFontaine-l4g]

Nonsense

[@wiseogjc370]

@user-qg2tx2jv1n Is that you Roger ? 😆

[@ChezFontaine-l4g]

@@wiseogjc370 u caught me

[@brianarbenz1329]

Sense.

[@isaacgraham5727]

“ROJAH CLEMENS IS IN GEOHGES’S BOX!!!” Being shouted by Suzyn Waldman is such a classic bit of audio. As a former sports talk radio addict, I think I heard that audio sample no less than 5000 times.

[@jimlaregina]

I am sure she shouted even more after his 2007 season 99-inning, 6 wins, 6 losses performance. The Yankees paid Clemens 28 million dollars for that, or $282,828.00 per inning. The Yankees should have renamed their "YES" channel "NO" when he pitched.

[@bradmarepublic]

OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS! Seriously, it's a classic. I remember listening to Boomer & Carton go off on it that next morning in my dad's truck riding to school 😂

[@babybella418]

Me too. And Opie and Anthony goofing on her . About 10 years ago he at Flushing meadows Park. I had to do the impersonation 😂

[@dukedematteo1995]

@@jimlaregina pro rated.

[@MountainStreamLives]

Seeing it written this way reminds me of a 19 year old Jose Reyes saying “Royer Clemy making bery difficult for hitting ball.” Love you, Jose!

[@philo5096]

He was a cheating juicer. Hitting batters knowing he never had to face pitching in the American league cuzz of DH.

[@robertsmith2088]

You know what's stupid though? Jeff Bagwell clearly was on the ROIDS as was Mike Piazza. None of those guys should be in the hall. What I hate is that Bonds and Clemens are used as poster boys getting all the blame, but all those cheaters should not be in the hall by any means!! Casual fans don't know, but my buddy Brent Iddon who played in the minor leagues regularly saw pro baseball players using steroids, saying that virtually 80% of players he met were on some kind of substance in the late 90s. This is the hypocrisy and bullshit of the MLB thanks to Bud Selig valuing bullshit homeruns to bring in fans over the integrity and history of the game.

[@General_Junkie]

​@@robertsmith2088 You can't forget Sosa. He gets treated just as badly and there is some arguable proof that he wasn't on the juice but only used juiced bats. Then to a lesser extent you have Palmero as well.

[@robertsmith2088]

@@General_Junkie I can't find any compelling reason why Sosa would not have been on the juice. The easiest way to see that he was on steroids is by simply looking at his unusually disproportionate muscle mass in his upper body, which showed his muscles to be "full" and "bloated". If you compare him in the late 90s to his physical appearance in first and second year in the leagues you can tell his body underwent unusual rapid muscle development within a short period of time. The point made by my friend who played in the minor leagues during the steroid era though, is supposed to illustrate the fact that most professional baseball players in the U.S., let alone major league sluggers were on some kind of PED. And one thing that should be known about a lot of baseball players in the big leagues is that they are not the most scrupulous type of people in the world. We already saw an entire organisation stay mum, save for one person about using technology to steal signs with many players not admitting to the scheme despite clear evidence. Therefore, it would not be too farfetched to imagine a bunch of professional baseball players using PEDs at the time while MLB did nothing to dissuade players from using such substances. To give you are little bit better known name of someone who was on PEDs who you may not have originally associated it with is Gabe Kapler, who clearly was on steroids despite not ever being known as a home run hitter.

[@smartguy360]

When he threw that bat at piazza I knew he had to be on roids

[@Droppinthehammer]

You don't know shit.

[@somekindaguy100]

Yeah don't know if that is a true indicator,I think it was more because he was a dick

[@dukedematteo1995]

He was always insane.

[@poindextertunes]

roid rage is a myth

[@GrandpasGaming]

Ridiculous

[@sdelmonte]

This leaves out Clemens having an affair with an underaged country singer, who would later commit suicide. The worst things he did in baseball are nothing next to that. He is a terrible person.

[@earlpipe9713]

He had an affair with Ukraine?

[@louiea4276]

For those wondering, the opening post refers to country singer Mindy McCready

[@shrapnel77]

She was a really screwed up person.

[@PTANV-x2g]

No, he left out an ALLEGED media-driven story that even McCready herself denies, and her suicide had nothing to do with Clemens. YOU are a terrible person for attempting to smear someone over something that has already been disproven and debunked. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[@T.R.R.Jolkien]

Underaged? You sure about that?

[@birthgravy]

18:22 that is the most 90s photo in existence. Roger's Schwarzenegger cut and frosted tips, Canseco's colored contacts, it just screams Deep Impact.

[@williammoore1980]

Clemons was anything but “pure muscle” you could see his gut through the uniform.

[@DERRTYCHYBO]

100% dad bod

[@dukedematteo1995]

Clemens was in incredible shape in his career regardless of whether he gained a few around his waist during the back end of his 30's.

[@sebbiesydenham3077]

That’s the roid gut. Your organs get bigger and push out your gut when you take growth hormone.

[@robertsmith2088]

Piazza was not pure muscle either, and still got in the hall. BAgwell definitely was not pure muscle. There were even non homerun hitters who clearly were on roids as well such as Gabe Kapler. I don't think casual fans understand just how widespread steroid usage was in baseball during the late 90s and early to mid 2000s. It wasn't just major league baseball players, but countless players in double AA were on the juice as well. This is why ex comissioner of MLB, Bud Selig, should go down in shame.

[@dukedematteo1995]

@robertsmith2088 I agree. People just forget how little fans and media (everyone really) gave a crap about steroids back then. For example, back in the 1990s.. everyone knew Canseco was on steroids, but no one ever said he was a "disgrace" or that his numbers don't count, etc etc. His reputation wasn't at all damaged by that knowledge.

[@poindextertunes]

those old sportscenter commercials were gold 👌🏻

[@danielcain-og5gs]

I remember when Clemens and Petite brought their egos to Houston. They were going to win a World Series. They didn't, and poof, they were gone. Clemens was a juicer and, like the rest of them, refused to admit it.

[@bsmith0403]

I was at the game when he announced his final comeback to the Yankees, the stadium was absolutely electric. Coincidentally, I also had tickets to a game vs the Pirates later in the season. Turned out to be Clemens' first game back. Pitched 6 innings, 6ks and got the win.

[@robertlawrence4719]

The Rocket will always be the man. F the haters .

[@RichBass7]

lmao at that Eli bobblehead bit.

[@kennethnadolny7553]

His first appearance was in relief at Oakland I know I was there saw him warm up and I've seen a lot of pictures but I've never seen anybody throw that hard

[@samilles472]

He had an offer from the Red Sox in 07 if he had signed with them he would have gotten that ring with the Red Sox.

[@robertsmith2088]

Thank god Clemens didn't sign with Boston then, I would have hated to see him get a ring in beantown.

[@franguidry2017]

Another great video! Loved the Gametime ad!

[@dukedematteo1995]

Here's a list of other great pitchers having elite years at a later age. Randy Johnson, age 37 and 38. Cy Young in each year. Two best yrs. Curt Schilling, age 35, 34 and 37. (CY runner up all 3 yrs) John Smoltz age 39, 40 Justin Verlander, Cy Young age 36 and 39. Steve Carlton, age 37 Nolan Ryan, age 41, 42, 39 There's literally nothing odd or suspicious about Roger Clemens having a career year at 34, and another great one at 35. Nothing at all.

[@stevendeckert6373]

Randy actually finished second to Clemens in 2004. They were 42 and 41, respectively. Gaylord Perry won one at age 40 too. The video jumps to conclusions for sure. I'm not sure Clemens actually took PED's. He was acquitted even with his trainer's allegations, unlike Bonds.

[@dukedematteo1995]

@stevendeckert6373 Clemens took PEDs in the years his accusers specified he did. Which is the second halves of 99, 2000 and 2001. Yet all these idiots in the media just speculate/lie and add like another 7 seasons to the accusation bc using PEDs for a mere 3 half seasons is kind of a nothing burger when you're talking about a 24 yr career. There's no evidence of use before that time, and McNamee never mentioned a word about him using after that time... ie 2003 or in Houston from 2004 to 2006. Not a word. The reason being, the last 5 years of his career were in the testing era! Clemens did not fail any of the tests. Not the survey test in 2003, nor none of the offical tests in 2004, 2005, 2006, or 07......because, Clemens, like the vast majority of players then understood the party was over by 2003. So he stopped when the MLB finally instituted testing and the "steroid scandal" among media and fans began. Once it was clear to him that using PEDs was a major risk, (testing, fan/media anger, reputation/legacy destruction) he didn't use them anymore. It's pretty simple, common sense. That was the case for most of these guys. Once 2003/4 rolled around, they all knew the party was over, and acted accordingly. (There were some exceptions, but for the most part, the steroid era was over.)

[@dukedematteo1995]

@stevendeckert6373 Randy actually deserved to win the Cy over Clemens in 2004. But Roger deserved it the next year in 2005 when he posted a 1.87 ERA, and also led NL pitchers in FIP and WAR. Problem was, writers were still in love with W-L record back then, unlike today where W-L is at most, of secondary importance to writers/voters.

[@tessp100d4]

lol. Roger is NOT in the same league as Nolan Ryan.. Ryan was a class act, Roger cheated everybody who ever played the game. He’s a loser

[@dukedematteo1995]

@tessp100d4 im talking about baseball greatness, not likeability.

[@MrTUBEular10]

Roger Clemons MVP Baseball for the NES was and is probably one of my favorite baseball video games to date. Up there with MVP 04for PS2.

[@dukedematteo1995]

@MrTUBEular10 one of my first baseball video games.

[@kfiscal01]

Being a huge a-hole certainly didn't help.

[@user-nv5iq3bp8l]

He was hated in Toronto. A complete dick. And no....we are not "misremembering"

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

Who was bigger a-hole, Clemens or Schilling?

[@Iridescence93]

Can't really blame Roger for being mad his manager threw him under the bus like that when the whole loss was totally McNamara's fault for keeping Buckner in the game

[@SmoothCriminal12]

@@Iridescence93 Mcmamara did a lot of things wrong those last two games. He obviously pulled Clemens earlier than he probably should've, then instead of pinch hitting him with Don Baylor, send out an inexperience rookie to strikeout. Then keep a gassed Schiraldi in too long, and keep a hobbled Buckner at first when you had a defensive replacement ready to go (one he used in each of their 7 playoff wins that year). Them in game 7, send Schiraldi out AGAIN after a brilliant Bruce Hurst performance to get shlacked and lose the lead.

[@dukedematteo1995]

Clemens definitely didn't ask out of the 86 World Series. You can clearly see him with a helmet on getting a bat when he was pinch hit for... Strange behavior for someone who "asked out of the game"

[@Iridescence93]

@@dukedematteo1995 lots of bad stuff you can say about Clemens in hind sight but he seems like he would want to pitch in the WS even if his arm was falling off

[@dukedematteo1995]

@@SmoothCriminal12 in McNamara's (and Clemens) defense. Clemens had thrown about 140 pitches through 7 innings. I get he's the Rocket, he's only 23, could have went longer... but that is a lot of pitches.

[@PTANV-x2g]

@dukedematteo1995 That’s today pitcher-coddling nonsense talking. 140 was not even remotely uncommon back then.

[@rylian21]

As a young RHP, Clemons was my idol. Evan as an adult, it hurt to find out that he was cheating. So disappointing.

[@luv2sail66]

Roger took every “shot” he could to become successful. In retrospect his temperament is easier to understand given what we know about roid rage.

[@isletoflangerhans8281]

"If not all time." He has the most pitching WAR of all time, so I'd say he was one of the most dominant pitchers of all time.

[@curryboyftw]

That’s quite literally what he’s saying

[@dukedematteo1995]

No pitcher has had a better career than Clemens. It's not even close either.

[@d.l.d.l.8140]

He cheated. Next?

[@dukedematteo1995]

@@d.l.d.l.8140 yes, he is accused of using PEDs, for 3 half seasons...second half of 1999, 2000 and 2001. You could remove those entire years from his career and he'd still have the best numbers ever....by a mile.

[@poindextertunes]

@@d.l.d.l.8140i hope your not a fan of professional sports bcuz they all cheat buddy. thinking otherwise is just being naive

[@cheddarcheese7928]

As a kid in the 90’s I went to tons of ball games and loved to wait for autographs after the games..I remember Clemens almost always signing,and when he didn’t, he was always cool with the fans,respectful,joking and really was a good dude.Even when he didn’t have to be..I’ll always have Rocket’s back

[@SamuraiSam]

Really good video! Just want to point out though that the Dan Duquette "twilight of his career" quote is misquoted. The full statement is that he "hoped to keep him in Boston during the twilight of his career", not necessarily that he was already in it. But I don't blame you for quoting it incorrectly because almost EVERYBODY did, including (if not especially) Red Sox fans.

[@brianarbenz1329]

Roger Clemens is one of those people who never understood that greatness is achieved by using your brakes, not just your accelerator.

[@ssweeps]

She was 15...😢

[@Struzzzmann]

Mr. Historian, if I may be so bold… you are a better looking Jerry Seinfeld.

[@TyrannoJoris_Rex]

That’s more of an insult than a compliment if you ask me

[@BaseballHistorian]

Not that there's anything wrong with that

[@Struzzzmann]

@@TyrannoJoris_Rex Jerry is a very handsome guy….. was

[@TyrannoJoris_Rex]

@@Struzzzmann When? All photo and video evidence suggests otherwise...

[@Struzzzmann]

@@TyrannoJoris_Rex I’m talking like, 93’ Jerry, not now Jerry.

[@TF-cm2pp]

Lazy video. I agree with some comments. How can you NOT talk about Mindy McCready. It’s FACT. Not rumor. 15 years old and outside of her Mother, he was arguably the second most closest person to her and responsible for her spiral. Everyone in Ft Myers knew this.

[@godblesstrolls]

Brett favre: hold my beer!!!!

[@brientaylorcohen]

Favre + Lance Armstrong + Tiger Woods = Roger

[@user-nv5iq3bp8l]

​@@brientaylorcohenYeah, when you look at Woods it's obvious that the PGA doesn't put a big priority on drug testing.

[@NoNameNo.5]

This dude is so cool, Roger is like a bad guy from an 80s movie.

[@TyrannoJoris_Rex]

Bad guy - check Shit movie - check

[@deprosport7254]

Awesome video that highlights the peaks and valleys of a legendary career. Love your videos man keep it up.

[@hahajones]

Cy Young Award is meaningless. Clemens has the most - Nolan Ryan, NOLAN RYAN, has none…Fuck the CYA…

[@G-TownJoker]

Yeah but look at the stats and tell me how many Cy Young awards Nolan Ryan was robbed of. You can be one of the best players of all time and not win a Cy Young. The award is not meaningless at all. It’s awarded for the pitcher with the best season , not necessarily the best pitcher in baseball. I mean by your logic the MVP award is meaningless cause Ken Griffey JR only won 1 of them. And he was absolutely robbed 2 times when he was in his prime. Did the sports writers get it wrong fuck yes they did but they don’t always get it wrong. So no that award is not meaningless

[@robertsmith2088]

IT's not a meaningless award, but it's definitely not the best measure of a pitcher's overall value, as there are many pitchers who had better seasons than their counterparts who won Cy young awards, yet unfortunately were in a stacked league of pitchers who they had to compete for cy young awards against and would lose to due to the cy young award placing more importance on wins rather than advanced stats such as WHIP, WAR or WS like they do now. But Clemens was an impressive pitcher for a very long time. But I cannot put him ahead of Pedro, or Greg Maddux for his era. I would argue Clemens was the best for his era in terms of longevity with Randy Johnson second to him. But in their primes I would not put anyone ahead of Pedro Martinez other than Sandy Koufax. The reason why Pedro tops the list is because he absolutely dominated during the steroid era in a hitter friendly ballpark while owning virtually the greatest ERA+ stat in mlb history, aside from Carl Hubell who no one knew. The Reason clemens falls behind Maddux and Martinez however, is due to his higher walk ratio which affected his WHIP. Pedro also owns the top 3 Batting Average against pitchers in MLB history only behind Sandy Koufax and Nolan Ryan.

[@dukedematteo1995]

Roger Clemens is not an "outcast of the game". He worked for the Astros for quite a while. He jumps in the booth here and there at Redsox and Houston games, and he's been doing a lot of podcasts and interviews in the online baseball circuit. He's still very popular in Texas especially. Unlike Bonds, he doesn't bitch and moan about getting snubbed for the Hall. And when the old guard dies off, he'll get in the Hall, hopefully while he's still alive. He ended with 65% of the vote....meaning a substantial majority of writers found him worthy. Kudos to them for not succumbing to a moral panic.

[@earlpipe9713]

Boston sportswriters crucified Clemens every little chance they could get to tear him down, as they did with another star Red Sox, Jim Rice, who would also neither take shi from them, nor kiss their ass. Albert Belle was the worst MLB victim of vulture baseball media that I can remember tho

[@KevinWM2]

​@@earlpipe9713Jim Rice WAS a bad ass. Clemens is just a bully and an entitled asshole. If he gets in, all of the steroid players should get in along with him...and Big Papi who is already in the Hall despite testing positive for PEDs.

[@d.l.d.l.8140]

@@dukedematteo1995 He is an outcast. He dishonored the game. We have so many people worshipping failed people because they cheated for THEIR team. You have failed, morally. Not too late for you.

[@Johnnypaycheck77]

​@@d.l.d.l.8140and having sex with an underage girl.

[@PTANV-x2g]

@dukedematteo1995 Bonds drew 66% in his final year on the ballot. What’s your point? NOBODY belongs in the hall if Bonds doesn’t. Get over yourself and your irrational Bonds hatred.

[@MGsac98252]

An outro music montage with Billy Joel's "Big Shot" would've been fitting.

[@markj9267]

Nothing about his biggest controversy? His relationship with an underage Mindy McCready? She was only 15 years old. How can you ignore this?

[@dukedematteo1995]

@markj9267 McCreedy denied sexual contact until she was 18 or 20. Still kinda gross but not illegal. She was also nuts and might be a bit unreliable.

[@markj9267]

@@dukedematteo1995 you go ahead and defend the indefensible. it should have been mentioned.

[@dukedematteo1995]

@markj9267 You think an outright falsehood should have been mentioned? McCreedy herself said they didn't start a physical affair until she was 18 - 20 years old.

[@rancidcrawfish]

​@@dukedematteo1995the sad thing is, guys like mark end up on a jury and think they have to vote guilty, no matter what the evidence shows

[@ahiwalter9153]

@rancidcrawfish I think the sad thing is guys like you will defend a man who is clearly in the wrong & who could care less about whether you exist or not. And for what lmao? Get some integrity & stop embarrassing yourself.

[@Frankenspank67]

So glad he went to the Stros at the end, it meant as a St Louis Cardinals fan, i got to see him play in person

[@ericvogt7123]

I had a real close seat in the 1990 ALCS at Oakland coliseum when he was ejected in the early innings for an outburst. I could read his lips. It seemed to me that whenever he came up against Dave Stewart, Stew won.

[@sgtjarhead99]

Personally, Clemens is still the best right-handed pitcher I ever saw, even if I ignored all the seasons that followed '95.

[@fromulus]

Roger Clemens was the first pro athlete I looked up to as a kid, he was the man in my eyes. I wanted to be him when I grew up. Glad I didn't, but he was one hell of a pitcher, even just considering his Boston tenure.

[@kencoakley8366]

I disliked him when he played for the Red Sox. He was a headhunter and there was that time when he didn't give an autograph to a man, who was special needs. Clemens threw hot dog rolls at the reporter that wrote the story. He totally and completely redeemed himself when he won the 2007 World Series for the Red Sox by going back to the Yankees. He supposedly tried to choose between the Yankees and the Red Sox. 28m made the decision easier. That and the fact that he said that he wanted to go into Cooperstown with a Yankees hat. Players don't get to make that decision anymore thanks to former Red Sox teammate Wade Boggs' decision to don a Devil Rays cap at Cooperstown.

[@freedomfest2741]

I don't care how he acted on the field or what he did in his personal life. I don't know him personally, I just watched him pitch from the beginning of his career, and he was hell of a pitcher, and was exciting to watch.

[@axelagosto5196]

Right but he kill everything with his arrogance and steroids like Bonds

[@freedomfest2741]

@axelagosto5196 All of that has absolutely nothing to do with me. When he is throwing a shutout, I don't sit there and think he is arrogant and on steroids. The same thing with the rest of the players.

[@squeakersthree711]

I love Roger Clemens. His denials of using steroids are part of his winning attitude.

[@vd1721]

The thing that gave Clemens Cover was someone name Nolan Ryan. He pitched a few years longer and kept his velocity and has never been accused of PEDs. Also was feisty on the mound. So until the steroid scandals broke people could point t to Ryan and say but he did it without PEDs.

[@ILoveMisty1985]

I always found it fascinating that despite Roger viewing his stepfather as his father figure, he kept his original surname. Then again, Roger Booher just doesn't have the same aura.

[@SDSOverfiend]

You forgot one key thing….. in 2000. Yankees signed Conseco along with his trainer. He went to Houston and took Pettite with him and when he came back to NY Pettite followed.

[@frankwilliams3587]

Based on stats,, Roger, Rose and Bonds need to be in the Hall.

[@jfturner73]

He kept telling everyone he was going to leave Boston as a free agent to a team closer to Texas..... He signed with Toronto..... He went to another country..... (Yes I know technically Toronto is closer to Houston than Boston....)

[@bigdadddyd123]

A telegram? After the year 1920? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@saurondp]

Telegrams were often used as official communiques well into the 2000s, often as a means of passing highly important messages between governments or news organizations, and even had a bit of a prestigious appearance due to its rarity in everyday communications. It wasn't uncommon at all for elected officials to pass along a message to people with telegrams, especially in scenarios where a phone call wouldn't be practical. Hell, when I was in Marine Corps boot camp in late 1994, everyone in my platoon was instructed to send a telegram to our parents during the holidays.

[@charismatic9904]

Jesus. Newsweek wrote that article about clemens sept 10 2001. The next day.....

[@Davidjohnson-zd3bk]

Most hated??? BARRY BONDS...

[@tessp100d4]

Yes, Bonds is the most hated. Most disgusting person in Baseball… ever

[@Billionaireben]

He is an all time great, not hated; but some believe the media. He was a big solid guy, but he was much smaller than Frank Thomas. He wasn't built like a steroid user, he never failed a drug test, he never claimed to use steroids; the accusation was merely that. An accusation. Tossing a bit of bat that came at him to the side and it went a bit further than expected but didn't hit Mike Piazza (who's more likely a steroid user than Clemens, but that got ignored and he still went HOF.)

[@Billionaireben]

25:46 This is an outright lie, Canseco NEVER claimed Clemens used steroids.

[@timmyg831]

A lot of guys who used steroids got in the Hall, such as David Ortiz and such. Ortiz even admitted it. But it all depends on if the media voters like you, they didn’t like Clemens and Bonds. The Hall is a load of crap.

[@andrewphilips2457]

An extra 50 million plus career extension by juicing. Would be very tempting for most.

[@charlescline8943]

I wish The Astros could have signed him at the start of his career but then owner John McMullen was a tight wad

[@julioarmenta1977]

You didn't mention his relationship with a minor

[@PTANV-x2g]

Mention a debunked and disproven nothingburger? Why, so the video could be even more biased without justification?

[@BubbaStylefly]

This is an ad for why everyone should take roids

[@kevincowan1913]

Dude we all knew and so did the media .

[@johndevlin]

I think they should throw open the gates. Clemens and Bonds were still head-and-shoulders better than all the other ‘roid monkeys, and everybody knows 50% of baseball is 90% mental. They weren’t ‘roiding their brains. That isn’t the reason Bonds’ head was about six radians bigger in 2002 than it was in 1992.

[@tiggerz3574]

Clemens will get in it's just a matter of time and add up the stats that did not have any enhancements,he still is one of the best!!!!

[@4thand3]

That's what you say about barry to huh

[@tiggerz3574]

​@@4thand3 Yes Barry Bonds had hall of fame stats before also

[@JosephWeiss-dv4ts]

NO invideo ADS

[@deadlyoneable]

Based on his success before steroids, that alone shows you he HOF worthy. End the nonsense and let the man in.

[@ptm4204e]

Dominant pitcher but like alot during that time wanted an edge, remember at 2003 alcs after boones hr, watched him and wells high fiving by babes monument from the bleachers

[@gg456stormy]

He left the redsox going downhill then turned into a powerhouse halfway through his career. Drugs?

[@wolfywise]

As someone who used to live in Houston, it's pronounced San Hacinto cause, you know, it's Spanish.

[@JoeIsrael915]

As a fellow Texan from El Paso our Downtown Plaza is named San Jacinto which I thank you for correcting the pronouncing of the name. I also commented to throw in an awesome coincidence because San Jacinto plaza in El Paso was famous for having live Alligators on display. Now a statue is in place in honor.

[@rg1649]

KZbin response template: Start with an unnecessary startement about who you are: * "As a _____" , or * "As someone who______", or * "As a ____, who has ____, I can confirm ____"

[@wolfywise]

@@rg1649 uh huh. Congrats on figuring out how communication works. Good for you.

[@birthgravy]

Key word "used to". Everyone here says San Jacinto with a J, but aren't lost on the silent J in the Spanish language. It's just a regional thing here. Perhaps you weren't originally from Houston

[@JoeIsrael915]

@@birthgravy h is silent in Spanish. J sounds like the English H.

[@raylreyesf]

I never saw him throw harder than 97. Ever.

[@TheBatugan77]

Never take sides against the family again. Ever.

[@tessp100d4]

Roger showing respect to the Babe is discussing. Clemons belongs in jail, and the Babe is… well the Babe.

[@MackSetEmUp]

His mom a bop lol she didn’t trust the process and just left bro with his kids.

[@MountainStreamLives]

He shortened Piazza’s and other players careers. He decided to cheat to grow his ego so large as to overshadow the league after he already was likely a HOF. His kids names start with K because of his ego. He’s a monster. And I believe he should never be enshrined in the hall. If you want to build a Hall of Infamy I’d support his induction.

[@robertlawrence4719]

Wow , I think reading this childish drivel killed some of my brain cells.by the sheer amount of nonsense.

[@tessp100d4]

Well said.

[@user-fp5do5ie3p]

He never shortened Piazza's career. That's incorrect and fake news. Don't know what your smoking. Piazza owned him though for sure although you comment doesn't mention that truth.

[@tessp100d4]

@@user-fp5do5ie3p stop. The cheaters ended many careers of players who were either hanging on the the big leagues or trying to get to the bigs. The cheaters like a Roger got big contracts and hurt the -layers who didn’t cheat. Simple as that.

[@ryan_alexander]

Imagine this title about Roy Halliday...

[@TyrannoJoris_Rex]

Don’t recall him burning though

[@ryan_alexander]

@@TyrannoJoris_Rex close enough tho

[@Johnny53PTO]

I watched this guy from 85 to 07 he is a HOF with out the Juice. But unfortunately he has to pay the price for cheating.

[@dj_lord_tucker]

Based solely on statistics, there's really not a reason he shouldn't be in there.

[@rylian21]

But based on the fact that he used PEDs, he's unworthy of the Hall.

[@VisualTedium]

Different pitcher in later stage if career with the split finger. Probably cuda did that without the juice. Shame

[@JC-mb1jm]

Man Tom brady resembles clemens alot 😂 especially when he was young

[@davedalton1273]

Yeah, I have thought the same thing. They were great athletes and killers in crunch time, as were Larry Bird and David Ortiz, who I think. was the greatest clutch hitter in MLB history.

[@user-fp5do5ie3p]

Clemens was a juiced-up roid-raging cheater. End of story. He had tremendous talent but took the easy way out as he got older. Plus Piazza owned him when he wore a Yankee uniform which makes it all the more sweeter. And when I say owned, I mean OWNED!

[@LionZebra]

Can you imagine Steve Carlton or Nolan Ryan on steroids? What would be the strikeouts record? Nolan pitched into his mid-forties without the anabolics and HGH!! And Pete Rose on steroids would’ve been the first coming of Barry Bonds?? If Pete Rose is deprived of the HOF, then Clemens, Bonds, or ARod should just shut their mouths and shove those records.

[@earlpipe9713]

Steroids did exist back then ya know, though I don't know if players made enough money yet to incentivize their usage by all relevant players

[@LionZebra]

@@earlpipe9713 Of course it existed but mainly in marginal or specialized small group sports like weightlifting or bodybuilding. It wasn’t a part of baseball’s “traditions” yet! It didn’t have much to do with money or affordability, as baseball players in the 1970s were still much better paid than weightlifters!

[@dukedematteo1995]

@@LionZebra pre steroid Clemens was better than Ryan or Carlton. 100 WAR, 151 ERA+, pre steroids.

[@LionZebra]

@@dukedematteo1995 Lol! In your dreams! Don’t get cute by citing stats for a couple years, as the point is longevity and being able to have a long dominant career. Ryan pitched till he was 45 years old WITHOUT roids, and still holds the career MLB strikeouts record that leaves Clemens in the dust. Clemens would’ve been long gone after 10 years had he not started to shoot it up the wazoo! 😂😂😂😂

[@dukedematteo1995]

@@LionZebra couple years? I'm citing 15 seasons. 1984 to 98 He had more WAR in those years than Ryan or Carltons whole careers. More Cy Youngs (5) than both men combined, more ERA titles (6) than both men combined. An ERA+ 40 points higher (better) than both men. A higher k/9 than Carlton and a much much much lower walk rate than both men. It's okay if you have no clue what you're talking about. It happens

[@clayanderson4834]

Great video! Does anyone know how he makes those killer thumbnails? That cartoon effect?

[@carriagecrestkid5626]

His Baseball cards are still a grip

[@CHman712]

Waldman having an orgasm over some old washed up has-been coming back mid season was cringe..i feel embarrassed for her whenever i hear it.

[@DanielSong39]

I'm pretty sure Cy Young is in the Hall of Fame

[@BaseballHistorian]

Oh dang, you got me there…

[@dana_cataldo]

are you jorkin it @8:16?

[@dominickjuarez5461]

Same with mlb’s all time mvp winner

[@johnbailey2024]

Everyone points the finger at the players that were taking roids, but its the owners that knew they were juicing, they looked the other way while they raked in the money, a bunch of billionaire hypocrites. Lets tell the whole story,

[@matthewwilton7778]

I could've sworn he was drafted by Seattle supersonics also lol, who am I thinking of?

[@haroldwillrich8135]

Roger and Berry are victims drug fear, there are a great number of former baseball players who used drugs. But those who produced results like Roger and Berry the American media came down on them hard . Just like football even today football cheaters are suspended and fined but allowed to return to the game. Baseball players should be treated the same.

[@tucegs522]

The Challenger Rocket

[@johnrains8409]

Hall of fame should be based on baseball and nothing else.

[@4thand3]

😂

[@4thand3]

You've never have done drugs or take to many drugs

[@johnrains8409]

@@4thand3 Well, your grammar tells me you have.

[@4thand3]

@@johnrains8409 oh yeah I'm stupid but stupid enough to take roids in the MLB if I had the chance

[@johnrains8409]

@8.-.3 They did a survey of college athletes. The question was, "If you could take a drug that would make you #1 in the world in your sport with absolutely no way to be detected but would shorten your life by 5 years," would you take the drug? Over 95% said yes.

[@daveunderwoodjr682]

Didn’t this guy P hotter than Chernobyl for a while? Like a long long while lmao 🤣 it wasn’t no “he might have gotten a tainted steak” nahhhh it was “this guy is definitely on the sauce” lol

[@thewkovacs316]

truckers dont go on "road trips"

[@joeblues2000]

Bob Gibson messed up big! They should have offered him $200,000

[@jdp5606]

Anybody else think if Matt Harvey had stayed healthy and the Mets won that 2015 WS that they would he the same guy?

[@wej4life]

💯

[@jaybarnes8034]

Can you have a story about Zack Hample?

[@TP_Gillz]

He's going in the HOF post mortem obviously. They just don't want to give him his flowers. Kinda stupid but that's the price u pay I guess. Rockett on the Sox was the best pitcher of all time...til 45 showed up that is

[@mannythedaddy]

"i thought it was the ball, so i threw it it at the batter" 😂

[@dukedematteo1995]

@@mannythedaddy meaning that's why he fielded a piece of wood

[@PTANV-x2g]

Play a game of baseball as a pitcher and see how fast things happen, then talk about how fast you’d have reacted in that situation. You react and field balls on instinct, which he absolutely did, before realizing it was the bat and tossing it away, NOT throwing it at Piazza. Damn idiot.

[@user-nv5iq3bp8l]

He just "misremembered" the difference between a bat and a ball.

[@barrywagoner5191]

He will always be Skidmark to me

[@derekgilbert2884]

Baseball players who have did steroids all of cheated shouldn't be hall of fame from Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire,Manny Ramirez, Ivan Rodriguez, David Ortiz, Jeff Bagwell, Roger Clemens, and many other players 😊😊😊😊😊