Basic AR-15 Accuracy with Trigger Upgrade

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In this video we take our basic 16" CMMG AR-15 to the next level with the addition of a Geissele SSA-E drop in trigger. We performed accuracy and chronograph testing which shows us the initial capabilities of the rifle and ammunition. With this data we will clearly see the overall improvement with each upgrade. Stay tuned as we have much more in the pipeline with this rifle.
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[@jakedunning9995]

PLEASE BRING THIS SERIES BACK!! Was really looking forward to the accuracy test after the barrel is free floated.....KEEP IT COMING ERIC & CHAD!

[@keithreinert5835]

I couldn’t find the next video I thought I was searching wrong

[@XaqFixx]

@@keithreinert5835 Seriously, a year later and I thought the same thing.

[@GrumpyGenXGramps]

Grew long hair and man bun, deferent less likable attitude and too good to do this piddly crap.

[@kylerustywilliams]

I'm still waiting to see

[@Dirtywhtboy87930]

I took my carbine and put the free float Midwest Industries quad pic rail forestock on it. Also just bought the Geissele SSA-E trigger to try out. Like your videos dude! Hope to see more coming !

[@RockIslandguy]

Where is the update with the free float rail?

[@TsoiIzAlive]

that golden mag has unlimited ammo

[@MBWchannel]

lol

[@bootlip11]

Can Turkleton insta kill

[@blueblood7610]

Um, NO. It is an old GI style mag that has had the finish worn off. If you had served your country, you would have seen some of these.

[@TsoiIzAlive]

Blue Blood oh wow, you must be fun at parties....

[@metallicakmm]

Learn to take a joke bro.

[@proteinshake86]

Eric: "shoot him right in the face Chad" Chad: "no"

[@HomeOfTheBrave1776]

this is hands down my favorite gun youtube channel.... rip barry THE BEST

[@beholderlt]

Best wishes from Lithuania! Nice to see that GGG ammo put to good use. Made in my hometown.

[@iancornell141]

just ordered some from SG ammo. you guys make quality stuff! very impressed!

[@terrywoodley593]

We use this in the UK. Very good all round ammo right out 1000 yds plus. Regards Terry

[@lbear3321]

600 yds with an AR15 makes me a little jealous. It's hard finding a shooting range past 300 yrds.

[@jacobjohnson2603]

i have a 1400 yard range in my backyard, and its not just a field either. no grass, smooth flat lane

[@stevenhorsefield2909]

I recently moved to GA from Colorado it sucks when it comes to places to shoot. compared to the thousands of acres of BLM you can shoot on.

[@cameronlee5226]

Steven horsefield this comment has a different meaning 6 months later😂

[@tjlovesrachel]

@@stevenhorsefield2909 i would love to shoot blm

[@stephenmaurer7008]

I was thinking the same thing. I have access to a 200 yrd range at PA game lands.

[@markwhite9148]

Eric shooting from prone reminds me of times past: I had some visiting snipers come by from Ft. Benning, GA. We had a suppressed kid's rifle made by CZ, and Russian subsonic .22 LR ammo from the Tula, Arsenal. One of the snipers laid down in the clay and shot targets with that little toy rifle. It was amazing what he could do with that little thing.

[@tinysupreme6417]

6 months ago I didn't have the slightest idea about how an AR works but I knew I wanted to build one. I have learned so much from you guys so I just wanted to say thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world.

[@ryanwilson5936]

How’s your journey going?

[@rb89509]

Watching that evil black gun from my safe space.

[@bmstylee]

rb89509 I am afraid to leave mine. it's giving me PTSD just looking at it.

[@A8vscRrabbit]

rb89509 i dont trust mine. i keep them locked and seperated in a safe.........i keep thinking they are going to gang up on my deer rifles and bird guns!

[@Pickle312]

It's like a BAZOOKA!

[@mmikeyt121]

rb89509

[@393strokedcoupe]

FuriousJoeDK Said the triggered liberal reporter!! lol

[@stephenmaurer7008]

Thanks you making this video. I really enjoy building AR rifles from PSA kits and USGI parts. I just added a JP Enterprise 4 lb spring kit to the triggers of both of my rifles. While I had everything apart, I polished all of the contact surfaces with 600 and 1000 grit paper until I had a "chrome-like" finish. While not a custom 'high-end" trigger, this really improved the trigger feel and operation. Thinking of adding a scope since my eyes are not getting any younger.

[@jaredf6407]

Make your AR great again

[@breed4659]

Love it. MARGA

[@mackenzieross1837]

eric can I come live with you. I'm in California you see. and well I'm American so I don't belong here

[@cloudk2030]

Mackenzie Ross leave ca and join the rest of the United states

[@MoreAmerican]

That isn't Syria and you aren't a refugee haha. Stay and fight for the right bro! I am here in blue hawaii so I know exactly what you are going through.

[@mackenzieross1837]

+MoreAmerican there simply not enough of us. were losing our guns and water to these god damn libers

[@MoreAmerican]

Mackenzie Ross Liberals are taking your water?.. you lost me there lol. But back to the guns, Find a lady, be fruitful and multiply. Make some pro gun babies dude

[@fongxiong1]

He was probably referring to us Northern CA having to send our waters to Southern CA, liberal central.

[@lavernsimkins1164]

I like the distance graghics used.

[@Xtorin_Housecat_Ohern]

JEEZ did they get a new mic??? gunshots certainly sound different

[@hinnyhinhin9498]

Xtorin O'hern that's match grade ammo for ya

[@jacobdeem1328]

a camera down range would be cool

[@dreadjavapirate]

Wow - this speaks to the accuracy of the AR platform. Great video. I was impressed buy your data on what a difference good ammo makes, esp. bullet weight well matched to the barrel twist.

[@jacobgebman4666]

this is the video that inspired me to buy my first AR. 2 days after I saw this, I owned it!

[@steveolto9805]

You guys are the best in terms of weapon testing on youtube. Been following you since the early Mosin "clean out the cosmoline days" Great Job and the red hat looks GREAT!

[@billbee235]

Shooting irons is such a necessary skill. I just put together an AR with a 16-inch barrel, free floated, with a Geiselle G2S trigger and flip up irons and maaaaaan I was shocked at how accurate it was. 2-3 inch groups at 100 yards all day. At 200-300 I could hit 6 inch plates pretty much on command. It’s a whole different kind of satisfaction when you hit a target at distance with iron sights or a red dot

[@peytonandrewyoung9124]

@iraqveteran8888 Would like to see a continuation of this series. At least a continuation with the PSA heavy barrel, as that is what platform I am running.

[@m.andrew3442]

When you install the floating barrel components, please show the install. I would like to see how that is done.

[@Royal_Vengeance]

Getting technical on this one with the numbers and spreadsheet there. I like that !

[@243Outdoors]

You need to add some wind socks to the range to help read the wind.

[@skeptikul270]

Good idea

[@OzarkW1]

"I'm going to stop talking and shoot". Chad continues to talk. "Without further ado, I'll stop talking and shoot." Chad keeps talking. Finally Eric says "stop talking and shoot." But Chad had to talk just a little more, but at least he finally started testing. Lmao.

[@tomk1349]

Really enjoyed this playlist so far, interested in seeing what the next upgrade might be. It’s been a bit since the last one.

[@sirfrydryk360]

Ordered my parts, soon I too will have a basic AR. Feels so good.

[@eyeofth3b3hold3r]

It's really awesome being able to help(in a small way) Eric and Chad get to do this by just watching, liking, and subscribing to their awesome content. Can't wait to see what else yall put out, the 600 yard shots are awesome! It's really hard to get a shot like that here in North Georgia.

[@Marksman2oo7]

You guys have become my favorite gun channel for your perfect mix of entertainment, professionalism, education and personalities. You've even surpassed hickok through the years!

[@ChknRider]

You guys ever consider on adding another target in front of the furthest back clay pile? Be about 800 yards or so.

[@Iraqveteran8888]

It's actually 700 yards on the dot. There's a chance we will be using it in the future.

[@Len_M.]

Iraqveteran8888 You should put a wind sock at each distance. You would get great practice in calling wind values/holds. 👌

[@bowtiebastard6437]

+Iraqveteran8888 hey what happened to Chads wrist

[@bootlip11]

Michael. J Lander power jerkin injury

[@Iraqveteran8888]

Running a hammer drill and a power auger to help build the tower.

[@tylerbuchholz3234]

I have a suggestion. If possible, can y'all put cameras at those other distances? I'm unable to see the hits, nor can I hear them either. Thanks.

[@brandonbarr6906]

Thanks for all the important info at 1:26, it saved me a lot of time, although I do really enjoy most of your videos. I have been a viewer since 2011.

[@Trueshot365]

A platform is what you were laying on. A rifle is what you were shooting. Enjoyed the video.

[@n7565j]

Love the Peter Sellers references :-) He was a master of comedy!!! :-)

[@jamesozment1]

This video is probably pretty old ,but I'll bump anyway. I have a marine corps marksman field book from 1968 . It was issued to my uncle during basic training just before being deployed to hell. The book has good information on judging wind and adjusting acordingly. Look around for one of those books.

[@EdD-ym6le]

I'm liking these. Bought my first AR this week.Basic Rock River 16" mid-length gas.($750 new-I think the local gun shop guys were looking out for me) Looking forward to the results of your mods.

[@Barney-hk3es]

Ed D ..that's a good price!

[@Pigeon__Man]

This really goes to show how much gun for your dollar a PSA can get you, and this was three years ago. What R&D have they done since? Love my little PSA, my first AR, it lead me into the rabbit hole.

[@moonlighter6]

Giesel triggers are my favorite AR upgrade. Reminds me of Prairie Dog hunting with a .220 Swift rifle but with greater accuracy than .223 in windy conditions.

[@vengenaceearly255]

Love the Gun Smithing How- tos. Goes way back to early days of this channel. I have learned a lot. I know you guys have done a lot of duracoating in your days at Moss P &G. Wouldn't mind see one more duracoating vid. Maybe see the finished product in action at the farm.

[@ZeroContentSF]

I love the echo report from that stance.

[@MarkAndrewEdwards]

I do like my Geissle trigger on my most recent AR. Might get one for the whole family.

[@sbeast1216]

get me one too LOL

[@kanyewest9806]

MarkAndrewEdwards what are the requirements to join your family? Thanks in advance dad

[@matthewkluge5441]

a camera down range to capture impacts at 600 would be cool to see . enjoyed the video and will have to research what 7 minutes of drop means ?

[@Dabkilla]

matthew kluge minuets ..... as in minuet of angle (MOA) ... so he's using a hold over of 7min

[@matthewkluge5441]

Dabkilla thanks ! don't own a gun but I enjoy the channel .

[@Pottan23]

layman speak one minute (or one moa) is 1" per 100 yards so 3" at 300. If I understand correctly at 5:02 when he says 7.1 minutes it means he will hold 7.1 x 4" (because it's at 400 yards) high.

[@ParadigmUnkn0wn]

Minute of Angle. It's 1/60th of one degree. Which is conveniently almost 1 inch at 100yds, or roughly 2" at 200yds, and so on. There's no multiplication for the called hold, when they say 7 they really mean 7MOA. I have no clue what Pottan23 meant by 7.1 x 4", that isn't a hold. Scopes are typically marked in mils (milliradians, the metric angular measurement) or moa (minute of angle). Scopes will have either lines or dots precisely marked on the reticle (i.e. "crosshair" in layman's terms). So you can do a hold over, using those markings. Or you can dial that into the turret (i.e. adjustment knob on top the scope) so elevation isn't a concern and just hold to either side for wind, again using the markings on the reticle for reference. Or for an actual precision shooting rifle it's not uncommon to dial in windage and elevation into the turrets.

[@olivialambert4124]

He meant 7.1 MOA at 400 meters makes for 28.4 inches high.

[@travis6738]

I dig this. Great video guys!

[@mkcs48]

Looking forward to seeing what you guys can do with this shooting tower. Should be pretty interesting.

[@jakedewald]

it's interesting how little of the story the group tells. We saw a .3 inch improvement at 100, but what was hit or miss in the last video seems like a chip shot this one. It may be a bit much to do it on every video, but a montage of shooting progress would be awesome. Like trying to get on the gong at 300 versus ringing it at 600 even fighting the wind. I'm loving this series already.

[@dannyovtmoor]

We have a a large supply of the GGG hear in the UK and its a really good surplus ammo

[@ArnoSchmidt70]

The new shooting tower seems a bit wobbly, but it looks like accurracy doesn't suffer.

[@jazmar1891]

Thanks for adding distance markers

[@2Aknight762]

I have that same scope on my DSA FAL rifle. Zeroed at 200 and can hold over out to at least 800 with that long range reticle.

[@dylanbroughton8979]

That super sonic crack tho, I expected the standard pow and thud not a boom the pow thud and crack all at the same damn time😂

[@civilgunguy]

Can't wait to see the update on handguard !!

[@Southized]

This comments a joke aint it 😂 im pretty sure chad and eric forgot about this boring ar

[@tylerdowd]

Triggered

[@91chevys10]

geissele triggered.

[@tatejordan385]

You know what might be cool, can cannon vs. ballistics gel at varying ranges and not only blank rounds but trying various powder loads and maybe grenade launching rounds

[@jacobgebman4666]

this is the video that convinced me to get my AR

[@davidwwalkerii]

So have you guys done those upgrades yet? I can't wait to see what kind of accuracy you get with a free floater.

[@trappermitchell1313]

Whatever happened to this series?

[@MrS22222]

KZbin guidelines neutered it.

[@markreagan2956]

That Make America Great Again hat is the GOAT. Lol

[@tatejordan385]

You know something I'd really like to see, just for the hilarious inneffectiveness of the Kolibri, ultra compact pistol that shoots the world's smallest cartridge against ballistics gel and compare it to air rifles, airsoft, and BB guns.

[@tatejordan385]

I mean the 2.7mm Kolibri

[@Wolverine33378]

The Gamer getter done boys

[@666tokarev]

I love this series!!!the spread sheet comparison provides excellent info!!thanks guys!!

[@memphis2houston346]

I'm sold on that "Vortex" optic!! 👍👏👏

[@whhitestallion]

I put that exact trigger in my AR15. Love it!

[@jacobgebman4666]

this is the video that inspired me to buy my first AR

[@Rainman_actual]

you guys should check out some of those adapters that hook a camera to a spotting scope so you can record at distance

[@TheEnglishRedneck45]

This is great stuff, thank you for taking the time to show your audience. A quick question - was the ammo tested blind (only the observer aware of what was being fired)? I ask as it could be that the shooter's belief/knowledge of how the ammo typically performs may affect their shooting of said ammunition. Of course the knowledge that the parts are changing may also be affecting things at a similar level, but there's no hiding such changes from the IV8888 team - they would be able to tell if a part's been replaced!

[@regsparkes6507]

I 'm wondering, would a 'wind sock' or ribbons help to determine the wind at those ranges ? This was very interesting to watch.

[@anvior45]

Build a really tall tower to practice from. People who have never shot down steep mountains, or up them (Or tall buildings and so forth) will find themselves missing time after time, so it is a good skill to learn.

[@UnitCrane514]

This is going to be a good series

[@Constantly1Shot]

Any way you guys would do a video on building an ar10 and explaining all the differences when it comes to choosing lowers receivers?

[@wellsd1959]

"Right in the cranium"... LMAO! I love you guys!

[@steeltalon2356]

Using a new mic? Audio is much improved over recent videos.

[@acceptable1000]

woah pullin out the spreadsheet, nice

[@alancrews2066]

Love this series on the basic with graduated upgrades. This is exactly what I need to help me with my build. What do I want and how to get there. Great stuff guys. Thnx

[@ryanmagana7866]

I like this video series, keep it up.

[@chownful]

DAMN this channel got swole in subs over the years

[@TarmanDan]

Great shooting guys!! Awesome video.

[@blakelynch400]

Y'all are moss pawn right? Oh my god it is yall...I chose y'all as my #1 SDI field study program...I hope to be able to work with yall and learn from y'all.

[@selfbowhunter.1952]

Good vid. I have a basic ar from Delton. I am looking forward to getting a optic on it and seeing how it will run.

[@siestatime4638]

Good shooting! But I would have liked a little review of the new trigger and why it's better than the old one.

[@bryandruce5835]

perhaps some wind flags attached to your target stands, metal or wood stakes with trail marker tape flying in the wind(for direction and die off detection)

[@StPaul76]

Now that you boys have that stand built up, I'd love to see you take that Sako TRG rig we've seen a couple of times on that stand and take shots at 600yds.. And while you're at it, grab that old Ljungman 42 with some proper modern ammo and shoot that too! :)

[@joefair2908]

Eric and Chad, do you think that you could also give us the cost as you add the upgrades to the rifle? I really enjoy your videos. Keep them coming

[@lmbear]

Good shooting man and nice rifle.. Keep up the great work..

[@cello7023]

They should do a video about to 5 or 10 great relible semi automatic shotguns under priced two who agrees with me

It is really amazing but just with a Traeger upgrade or a trigger job that the accuracy goes up that much great video guys awesome as always keep up the great work really love the videos thank you guys

[@jonathanrogers9961]

where did the rest of this video series go? Was really hoping to see the free float and other upgrades

[@muushkin]

Good video! I sure would have liked to see the AG42B 6.5x55 being shot from your 600 yd platform!

[@superskunk311]

You had me at Shooting Tower!

[@abbedidriss5189]

Nice job on the sound guys.

[@pablopenasco4254]

I really like these videos. Thanks for doing them.

[@59BigWalt]

Good vid, hope the wrist gets better

[@jubileefan6079]

"Shut up and shoot." Good stuff! Love y'all's videos!!

[@Glocktard]

Why not shoot at paper? To show exact groups and then you could demonstrate your point of aim verses point of impact at these long distances. And group on paper at 100 yards with I variety of off the shelf .223 or 5.56 ammo that most people have on hand.

[@NickRios]

Loving this series guys, keep it up.

[@stefanc2242]

This is an awesome series guys!!!

[@briankennedy693]

Please bring this back

[@daviddraper3590]

guns looking great seems like you guys need some windage flags though the wind changes quick there it seems

[@skunkycatog]

Those coroducts good mags are dope

[@markwhite9148]

A pleasure to watch.

[@coolbeans6148]

accuracy vids are awsesome

[@person7470]

Eric's hat... so savage.. where can I get one