Bastion's Infinite Artillery Bug [PATCHED]

[@kingarth0r]

This was the best bug in overwatch history. Literally the Omnic crisis

[@charKT-7461]

I thought the Junkrat freeze glitch with the clown skin was phenomenal

[@SJrad]

The mei wall tilting glitch was my favorite. absolutely hilarious and complete jank

[@wyattwilbourne530]

​@@charKT-7461 the what?

[@charKT-7461]

@@wyattwilbourne530 A good while ago back in OW1 when Junkrat got his clown skin, there was a bug where his ragdoll would freeze in a funny pose when he died

[@ekris5072]

What about the sigma helicopter glitch

[@nadirbaitsaleem7270]

This is actually hilarious, if the devs used a "

[@KrazySnakpod]

Probably, but that wouldn't be a perfect fix as you could still get the counter to 0 while firing only 2 shots.

[@matheustenorio5874]

They could also use “< 1”

[@gwynbleidd8723]

kinda true haha, on another hand if they just put a line like if the number of shots decrease by 1, put a 1s impossible time to shoot. This way u can't use 2 shots in a very short period of time

[@cook_it]

@@KrazySnakpod in such a case the ostrich algorithm kicks in and it would be a way smaller to no problem than what happened here ;) But yeah fixing this at the root will be the best solution (and will probably prevent more bugs from happening)

[@imikirei]

@@gwynbleidd8723 this would technically work but impact the usage of the ability significantly. instead of decreasing the value upon keypress they should really do it as each artillerty has been fired/spawned.

[@ZachMcZachington]

“Causing Bastion to commit unspeakable warcrimes” is a sentence I was NOT prepared for 😂

[@brooklyngray1527]

I mean, it's basically canon if you remember what bastion units were designed for...

[@Shpooky]

Wouldn't have been the first time

[@jordanbarnett7247]

Lmao I know, I died

[@bryangarcia5207]

@@brooklyngray1527 and what they did. Probably Bastion too before he got his memory erased

[@mage3690]

Technically speaking, this isn't a warcrime. Warcrimes must be "indiscriminate in nature" which means that the strike cannot be targeted in nature, or pose a significant risk of excessive collateral damage to non-combatants. Bastion's ultimate, by design, must be targeted, and there are no non-combatants on the entire freaking map, which means that this cannot be a warcrime even if you somehow managed to carpet bomb the entire map. DVa's self-destruct is much more likely to be a warcrime than this, it's a freaking NUKE for cripe's sake. Nukes are WMDs, and WMDs have an unqualified ban on their use in warfare according to the Geneva convention.

[@ITalk69]

If you are going to be covering bugs, you'll have a ton of content.

[@kermitsudoku6446]

then he should cover up dead by daylights bugs. years and years of content

[@TibbyII]

Marblr and Not Muda crossover?

[@fakelife.]

then he should cover up valorant bugs

[@Shadow-jm9ei]

@@TibbyII YES! They are so underrated and both of their content is amazing, i would love a collab from them!

[@rya6361]

ur not even a ow creator and yet here u are commenting on every video of ow2

[@Accuaro]

What’s funny is that even with the bug it was still super rare for Bastion to kill more than one person*, it was OP for creating space though by carpet bombing a point/payload

[@TheUnrealPirate]

bruh you were lucky if you got even one person with it, rip tire is a better ultimate and it only explodes once lol. Seems too easy to avoid even if it does tons of damage; maybe a version that does DOT but strikes much faster, or a larger AOE would help? Or anything, really lol.

[@Accuaro]

@@TheUnrealPirate Yep, I did make a video with the bug with me getting three kills. I never got more than three kills. With the bug, bastion throws out more bombs than what was used in WWII and still struggles to get kills. I’m sure Bliz has some stats on it, but it’s pre weak.

[@eepiest]

@@TheUnrealPirate make bastion drop napalm instead 😍

[@X1erra]

The purpose of Bastion ult is to carpet bomb a large space... I much prefer the Tank config though, maybe a bit too op in 5v5 but balances out due to his huge hitbox.

[@theentiretyofthelgbtq5479]

@@eepiest bastion napalm ult Radius: every healer. Damage: 1000 Dot: 17K(1sec) Cooldown: 2 seconds Poor bastard would only get 2 kills instead of one

[@Kowaseye]

So you're saying that they turned bastion's ult from a warcrime to a warcrime. Astounding job blizzard.

[@emoryhodges5556]

They temporarily removed him from the game.

[@mage3690]

Technically speaking, it isn't a warcrime in either form. Warcrimes are use of weapons that are "indiscriminate in nature", which means that the attack poses significant risk of collateral damage to non-combatants for any reason. Since this attack can ONLY hit enemy combatants (or Bastion himself) and does not leave any unexploded ordnance (UXO) on the battlefield, it cannot possibly be a warcrime.

[@primeministersinister625]

how on earth is this a warcrime?

[@hazakura2319]

@@primeministersinister625 carpet bombing

[@primeministersinister625]

@@hazakura2319 this isn't carpet bombing. anc carpet bombing is only a warcrime if done against a civilian population. you people have no ideawhat war crimes are.

[@jaceg810]

Fun fact: an unlimited amount of airstrikes does not nessiserily constitute a warcrime, unlike anything moira does and basically all damage or time effects.

[@mage3690]

Yeah. The complete irony of OW is that the "good guys" often commit warcrimes more often than the bad guys. Bastion has never committed a warcrime in OW. Can't say that about Reinhardt (incendiary weapon), Ana (bioweapons or chemical weapons, or both), DVa (WMD), Mei (did you know that Geneva Convention 4, Article 3.1.c states that "outrages of personal dignity" are warcrimes?), Orisa (taking hostages, remember that experimental patch?), Torbjorn (incendiary weapon, also I'm pretty sure it's wanton destruction), or Winston (excessive suffering). Ok, I'll admit that Mei probably hasn't committed warcrimes. Probably.

[@mobgabriel1767]

@@mage3690 "The complete irony of OW is that the "good guys" often commit warcrimes more often than the bad guys." anakin:first time?

[@theultimatehomiegsenior3058]

@@mage3690 what's WMD

[@mage3690]

@@theultimatehomiegsenior3058 Weapon of Mass Destruction. Nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons, in other words. The only class of weapon categorically forbidden to use by the Geneva Convention, unless you count "expanding bullets" as a class of weapon. For a handy list of most warcrimes, see the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, Article 8. It doesn't mention WMDs specifically there, but they are banned via other means in that list anyways, so yeah

[@black7594]

@@mage3690 overwatch itself, while not guilty of warcrimes, is disbanded and activity made illegal under the very same geneva convention in universe

[@wizawhat]

I hope you continue to make videos like this that preserve the history of Overwatch in such a polished way. It will be really funny to look back on this type of stuff years from now

[@myseglis]

How did you even have time to produce a video this quickly considering Bastion got removed from the game?? The quality and the simple explanations of your videos always makes for great content!

[@Nineteen-yz3zq]

That’s the power of marblr

[@zabuto2924]

It took a while for anyone to find and people to figure it out I see a video on it they say before he was removed

[@medicfdumbo]

There was a good 1-2 days where u could abuse it

[@myseglis]

@@medicfdumbo Yeah but even 2 days is really quick to understand the bug, deep dive into what causes it and then release a video about it

[@KryptoKn8]

@@myseglis what causes it is pretty easy to see in this case. I mean you literally need to do the thing directly, it's not like some inventory overload where you don't understand what's going on behind the scenes. This one's pretty obvious

[@davidbray5982]

It's crazy, even with this bug the ultimate was not that powerful.

[@Joseph_Stuntn]

Yeah, did the bug with a few of my friends in no limits (a full coordinated team of 5 bastions) and we all ulted at the same times from behind cover, it was still rare that we would get actual kills and the max we got was 3, feels like ults are becoming less useful than normal abilities lately, used to be good tools for quick and easy kills but now it feels like you'd have an easier time staying alive getting kills just sitting back and shooting

[@ashurad_fox5991]

They nerfed most ultimate to prevent hard counters for new players... But (looks at Zaria) It was quite pointless...

[@xpload]

This bug is hilarious in execution, explanation and how it was addressed

[@gwynbleidd8723]

I'm a young developer, I'm glad you explain this bug by showing how it works in the code. very educational, I learnt stuff too, thx

[@kupokraft3685]

You are now better at your job than Blizzard programmers, congrats!

[@gwynbleidd8723]

@@kupokraft3685 lmao

[@SINotFound]

Bit late on this, but your content has been unbelievably good!! Love how well you breakdown everything!

[@eagleflies9515]

Blizzard says he's taking a trip to the workshop when he's actually at Nuremberg

[@mikemac-man3796]

I have a feeling an overflow by itself is too simple for them to completely remove him from the game to fix so I’ve got a theory. They use Bastion’s ult in the PvE mode to make some artillery hazards for a level or section which would fire indefinitely by somehow bypassing the 3 ammo limit. Then somewhere in the execution of the glitch the game is getting confused and accidentally giving us that pass for infinite ammo.

[@shuttlecrossing1433]

The problem isn't simply that it overflows but that engaging it at 2 volleys leads to it ending early. So they can't just change the "= 0" to ">= 0", though that would fix the infinite ammo. The issue is unfortunately more fundamental since it comes from accepting multiple inputs on the same frame with the same input result, and that is much less simple.

[@nidbahn]

@@shuttlecrossing1433 what's even more interesting is that it doesn't let you actually fire 2 shots at once but it does decrement the counter by 2

[@ZedRuski]

marblr, your style and editing aesthetic are bulletproof. i anticipate every upload.

[@chriszethird]

Now we have the explanation, they could just patch it by ending the ult when the value is inferior or equal to 0, or simply cancel the ult when pressing the ult button (A or Q) just like cassidy's dead eye

[@alexcebe8051]

as someone pointed before in the comments, they want to fix the issue to it's core (a.k.a game should not count both imputs at the same time ) as it might still give problems in the future otherwise

[@logangaskill4]

@@alexcebe8051 changing the ult button so that it ends the ult early would fix the issue of double inputs

[@alternatecheems8145]

​@@logangaskill4 wouldn't have fixed the ult stopping after 2 airstrikes used

[@theoj901]

the production quality on these videos is amazing. im glad to see the crystal shards ost getting some representation too

[@Mutrax4706]

Because someone else mentioned the fix of using "

[@carlosusnay2216]

When you just wanted to play overwatch and bastion ults and now you’re having flashbacks to world war 12

[@judopunch2672]

This is VERY HIGH production quality. Thats a lot of work, good job this was fun.

[@Corn.mp4]

I really liked when you went over how it was coded and such. I've seen videos on how to do it but never one as to WHY it happens so this video was really informative

[@nihilvt]

I love how it takes 2 weeks to fix this issue that an idiot like me could fix with a youtube tutorial. they disabled Bastion and the fun has been completely reduced in this game.

[@DNA912]

this is actually a great example of a coding philosophy I learned about from 'No Boilerplate' "Make faulty states, unrepresentable" This was more in the context of using types and enums, but the general idea is that you write your code so that only handled states are possible to occur in the code, as in this case, someone forgot to handle the case where ammo count being negative. Which on the surface seems like something that could never occur, but if you code with the idea of making only valid state representable, you would probably notice this line ammo == 0 as a bad, or unsecure implementation. I'm not trying to shit on the developers or who ever write that line, it's a extremally easy mistake to make, or just a case that is very easy to overlook

[@bigboibebop]

0:25 the way he says it

[@blazemenace1208]

Love your videos! You think you could do an indepth look into some odd achievements like Rapid Discord or Yokai?

[@Marblr]

I could try. Achievements are a difficult topic since they must be earned in quick play or competitive, which makes testing difficult. With regard to the Yokai achievement, today's patch (2.1.0.2.106273) mentioned that it was unobtainable.

[@Bence3]

Hi @@Marblr, I liked this video a lot, it had some simply explained coding, my question would be: Will you be going deeper into Overwatch 2 coding in some form or another in some videos. I would love that, and I bet there are stuff to make videos about. (maybe this is a bit too niche of a request though)

[@Mihaugoku]

this is why I prefer to use

[@RisuTheMan]

Thank you shounic for the overwatch community, this was surprisingly informative

[@controlcon]

hey marblr I love your videos and your editing is always fantastic. could you do a video on how Potgs are decided, if it's even possible to determine at all?

[@Aquamarine175]

2:39 "war crimes are war crimes" had me laughing

[@Scarldoc]

1. how has it taken this long to patch "=0" to "

[@Consequencesofasymphony]

Allowing bastion to commit unspeakable war crimes is probably the best quote in the history of time.

[@patonnight]

Man is so smart and able to explain everything like it's so simple... Makes the actual devs even look a bit dumb.

[@mysicle363]

You can do this with Illari now. Shoot till zero then spam heal beam and shoot until you get -1

[@JaysonTatumReal]

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[@niko60824]

3:05 "allowing bastion to commit war crimes" priceless quote

[@ziggyflybone3]

Marblr, Do you have a Patreon? The quality of your videos are immaculate! I want to support but there's no join button yet :( Keep up the amazing work! Love the videos. Looking forward to more OW2 content

[@alexandroskyriazis5191]

You and shounic are the backbone of the overwatch and tf2 community. without the 2 of you we'd have 0 knowledge about the games. Thank you for your work.🙏🙏🙏

[@TangleHamain]

Omg, thank you so much! I remember lots of people doing it in Quick Play and Arcade and I didnt know how they did that cus it never worked when i tried! Sad that it got patched cus i cant try it anymore but it was very nice to know what was happening, it all makes sense now lmao thanks!!

[@Breadn]

I don't understand how they caused so many new bugs, like this or Torb's double "E" ability. It doesn't seem like anything changed under the hood, but I guess it did?

[@DustyDirk]

Finally. Someone who explains how the bug works and how it is triggered instead of just saying that Bastion is bugged and then adding 10 minutes of boring gameplay with bad commentary after it.

[@magmablock]

This really doesn't feel like something that should take them more than two weeks to fix. Dva was removed from OW1 to fix a glitch that crashed the servers and that only took a few days.

[@korea_ow]

이해하기 쉽게 잘 정리되어 있고 발음이 좋아서 그런지 구글 자동 음성 번역도 깔끔하게 나오네요

[@marinenukem]

It’s really taking Blizzard this long to change a == to a

[@ARASH_SAMIEI]

I was always so confused about bugs and glitches the games have that I feel like they don't make sense and was really interested in why these bugs behave in the way they do Glad to find a video that does this

[@Emer2ld]

Your editing style definitely reminds me of Shounic, so I'm glad I found this channel. Very informative, straight and to the point, just how I like it

[@goodstuffbadstuff2304]

Dude why is this video so well edited, I just had to subscribe

[@Chewie571]

Bastion committing unspeakable war crimes? So basically another day in the life of bastion?

[@challengerdrakava1198]

Kiriko’s teleport fails to work near death. Sometimes the ability goes off and you die on the same frame and putting the ability in cooldown too. Feels like we’re beta testing her since she didn’t get beta time for testing so we’re live testing her right now.

[@juckyvortex]

Don't think that's a bug. That's just how the game works. If you activate an ability but it doesn't go through because you died or it's interrupted it still counts as an activation.

[@jacobnorris8256]

​@@juckyvortex Yeah literally all this means is that Kiriko's teleport has a short animation time that you can die in. Nothing about that particularly screams "bugged".

[@JelloTalks]

Love your Kirby 64 Crystal Shards soundtrack 💕

[@Guarrow]

I knew there was something missing in the Hero gallery.... Heard of the bug but didn't knew anything about it tbh, thanks for the absolute gem really, I'll keep recommanding your channel to my pals and stuff, I genuinely hope you get more credit cuz you just deserve all the success What's funny is that I was asking myself how you managed to get the footage for Bastion's warcrimes.... I just forgot the workshop existed

[@Luke42652]

Why remove him from the game if they could do a hotfix of

[@saggy3567]

Just realized you don't have 2 million subs, this is a crime. You deserve more

[@pickly4747]

Some of the highest quality ow content I’ve seen. You found a niche that no one else thought of and managed to make it interesting. Keep it up👍

[@nobleradical2158]

It’s the shounic of OW

[@nathantaylor6768]

I really like your Shounic-esque visual style. Shounic and 3kliksphilip's video essays are great, and yours seem just as good. I can't get into Overwatch KZbin because it's usually just as loud and flashy as the game itself. Your style is nice.

[@cosmo3130]

Can you make a video on the 5,000,000 damage mitigated stat glitch on Ana? I’m not sure exactly how it happens but it might be related to nano. She can also get over 100% sleep dart accuracy, but I’m also not sure exactly how Edit: pretty sure the dmg mitigation bug happens when you nano a dva and they use bomb.

[@unusualgaming8629]

ive had -100% sleep dart before

[@srspaghetti9095]

Have you ever covered the fact that Ashe is not hitscan, but an insane fast projectile?

[@thinix396]

WAIT WHAT

[@srspaghetti9095]

@@thinix396 yeah :D that's why when she released people complained that her shots feel wierd, and they really do :P I like it tho

[@stormedrain]

you guys are trying real hard to gaslight the new players into thinking bastion is a real hero

[@val9993]

Your videos are so interesant to watch it makes me understand more of how the game works !

[@Preetzole]

"People can't be seen on a map. Without any emotion, they're just erasing one small island off the map. That's what a Buster Call is!! "

[@lols5534]

This is an amazing video, learning so much as well. Thank you!

[@FrostyDLR]

How could such a simple bug, take so long to fix??

[@jinnans_gd]

excellent content!!!!! brilliantly written, presented, explained and everything. Thanks!!!

[@mephisto_ow]

Another day of bastions breaking the geneva convention

[@VioletMaeve]

Bastion's back for this years Halloween. My son returns!

[@SentenceToDESU]

Hey, I wonder if you know about interesting glitch on some koth maps (which starts from inside the ship like Illios for example) with Reaper (and also with Pharah kinda), where you can ult multiple times on spawn before round begins? Id really like to know why it actually works. Anyways brilliant content. Keep it up!

[@SonicBlueTyphoon]

As a programmer, the LITERALLY MOMENT you said “equal to 0” I laughed and was like, yep that’s the problem. Happy to say I got it instantly

[@justsomerandoontheinternet3147]

It's like bastion is warming up his canon until he unleashes hell.

[@Kfimenenpah]

And that's why you program

[@mitch9853]

Can u do a video on what makes a player get a play of the game?

[@ArbyTV]

It’s fucking hilarious that this is taking so long to fix. Did they pull a random person off the street, give them a copy of “programming for dummies” and ask them to fix it? small indie company btw tbh if they did that this would’ve been fixed already

[@ftrctyvreycertcewtcwrgcwef6000]

honestly. is it so hard to swap an operator?

[@asdasd-dx6hc]

Very good choice in music.

[@KleberDKurosaki]

Bastion: Comit war crimes Blizzard: WE DON'T TALK ABOUT BASTION NO NO

[@metin5408]

They should have just written if airstrike is equal to 1,2 or 3 then fire and airstrikeRemaining -= 1 else endUltimate.

[@BaKa60gaming]

they delete the hero when it take less then 1 minute to fix that

[@nef36]

Wait a minute. Do weapon magazines also use this logic? Could you get infinite ammo by having two primary fire binds?

[@liquidwater1133]

Ah yes ground artillery that fires airstrikes.

[@gunnerdown]

My question is why did they completely disable him but only disable torb in comp, like I can’t even play all my custom games cause any rule in workshop that only applies to bastion gets removed, which makes some things that are supposed to be for bastion on everyone, could’ve just disabled him in any mode that matters

[@nova2669]

maybe a lot to ask for but can you PLEASE make an editing guide? i love the way you do your videos, i wanna know where you got that moving square background

[@black7594]

they should make this a workshop feature

[@DannyDoesGuitar]

This would've never happened under Jeff 💀

[@Edwardify]

literally, the game is a mess

[@BeepOW]

This video will turn into a timeless classic in 5 years

[@Zylefer]

I always learn something technical from this video

[@sterio2235]

Bro imagine if Bastions discovered this bug during the Omnic Wars

[@mymistakes9944]

I just imagine tracer left being the smily and joyfull person and turn in to a shellshocked after live this xd

[@spicymeatballs2thespicening]

lol

[@nadirbaitsaleem7270]

Bastion was literally removed from the game ☠️

[@helwrecht1637]

2 things It’s not an air strike, it’s artillery It’s not a warcrime

[@AidanCoffman]

Keep these coming! Love your videos

[@TomGibson.]

So is the torbjorn bug a similar thing? I’ve seen people pull off a restart of his overload power when the timer hits 0. Perhaps this bug is deeply routed and present in other hero’s whose skills involve timers/limited ammo, maybe you could pull off the torb glitch on a zenyatta ult or something

[@arbiter1er]

Nothing like experiencing a creeping barrage.

[@reagansido5823]

I wonder if they could simply remove the ability to fire a charge with the ult button. I don't think it's really necessary to have that, right?

[@EisnerHeroYT]

"Causing Bastion to committ unspeakable war crimes" got me

[@Neogears1312]

I hope you cover torb too. Because his glitch could be fun to rework into just how his overload works to some degree.

[@alsocool1]

how does a large studio like this make such a weirdly rookie mistake? being able to entirely skip a crucial check like that is wild.

[@mattr791]

if strikes remaining == 0 endultimate that is perfectly correct unless you are aware its possible to use 2 controllers to double input commands and how the engine handles simultaneous identical commands if you're a programmer working on a project with hundreds of people you won't know every single oddity that exists so its not hard for small things like using a == instead of

[@gridgaming_]

everyone makes mistakes! from a devs point of view, (ultimate_uses == 0) is perfectly fine code with a working input system. using

[@iheartbinary]

I love the phrasing of unspeakable war crimes, lol

[@StereoMyth1]

As a game dev , a little misunderstanding. Checking "==" equal is not wrong. The problem in the script is in the section where the game receives the input for shooting a rocket and reducing the ammo count by 1. There should be a delay in place that separates between the inputs. In simple words , the script should say "if the player pressed fire , wait 1 frame , and than let the player fire again". Player presses Q > canShoot = false > wait a frame > canShoot = true

[@Kellestial]

Marb is like the vSauce Tom Scott of Overwatch

[@JJBeauregard1]

Honestly, the "carpet bombing" aspect of this actually looks kinda fun. I wouldn't mind them changing the ult to do less damage per shot but being able to be fired at a fast rate over the duration.

[@jessicastjames6202]

They would also have to reduce the duration of the ult pretty significantly if they allowed that. Being able to completely deny access to an objective for 8 full seconds (which is longer than the overtime timer by a lot) would be totally unfair. That said it does still sound like fun lol

[@katiegrayx3637]

Does anyone remember the other game this happened to in the past 5-10 years? I vividly remember this being an existing issue. I can't remember if it was in overwatch or another AAA title, but it was a relatively big deal that you could get the counter to go negative resulting in unlimited uses of an ability.

[@Jumf1]

Amazing how they had to temporarily remove bastion from the game, just to change the code to say “less than or equal to” instead of “equal to”

[@galvaboy1114]

But, by looking at the example you made with the code (idk if its the same language that uses ow2), wouldn't the solution just to make it =