How to fit a shower tray | Tutorial | Video Guide | DIY | Bathroom Hacks

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Bathroom Plumbing and Fitting

Bathroom Plumbing and Fitting

5 жыл бұрын

Kris demonstrates how to install a new shower tray in a bathroom as well as showing how to connect the waste.
In this video the tray is an ideal standard quadrant tray 900x800mm.
The boards used are Wedi www.justwedi.co.uk/ or Jakoboard

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@katejohnstone9530
@katejohnstone9530 2 жыл бұрын
If you stick a tray down and there is movement in the building the tray will crack as its basically a big thick tile. 5/1 sand and cement mix for the tray to sit on. Every building moves and a few mm can crack a tray if its stuck down
@Participant616
@Participant616 4 ай бұрын
No, flexible tile adhesive.
@MadDog_Rules
@MadDog_Rules 2 ай бұрын
Nope, if you use a flexible/rubber tile adhesive, this allows for floor movement, without it affecting the tray. If you use a sand and cement mix, you need to lay a membrane down first. You always need a buffer between movement and fixed/static.
@turbo3492
@turbo3492 2 жыл бұрын
A classic recipe of how to cause your shower tray to crack.All buildings move a little,by bonding the tray to the floor at some point the tray will eventually crack.The secret to properly installing this type of shower is to follow the manufacturers instructions!
@Tokaisho1
@Tokaisho1 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't like to be the one having to smash it off when replacing the bathroom in 30 years as well
@ironix1
@ironix1 3 жыл бұрын
Good quality video and suitably informative. Nicely done Gonzo. I will treat myself to your other plumbing delights over Christmas. ⚒⚒⚒
@cygnus108
@cygnus108 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful...thanks for posting
@MrOzzy281
@MrOzzy281 3 жыл бұрын
Best video I've seen on this
@ricardoheleno8670
@ricardoheleno8670 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, You should try to use vacuum cups to hold the tray when puting it into postiton. I think you will like it. Also, a smal vacuum cup on a rod would to help you screwing that stuf without having to leave your hand inside it. Cheers!
@likeat6639
@likeat6639 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my question! fit shower tray and waste after.. thank for that. good job i have small hands!
@CaptMdFaizurRahman
@CaptMdFaizurRahman Жыл бұрын
Very Good, wonderful!! Well done!!! Thanks
@warrendennis8943
@warrendennis8943 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Gonzo, nice install ⚒⚒⚒
@menotyou5065
@menotyou5065 4 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks.
@abigailhowlett9916
@abigailhowlett9916 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, was it solder or solvent adhesive to connect the flexitube? Thanks
@The1PatSmith
@The1PatSmith 5 жыл бұрын
Greets from NZ. Thank you for showing that, even 'though I'm not doing one, I still find it interesting. Thanks once again for your time and the quality of your vids.
@chrisbell2448
@chrisbell2448 2 жыл бұрын
My recommendation is to follow the manufacturers installation instructions which for a stone shower tray will almost certainly be to bed it on sand and cement.
@spoonz1065
@spoonz1065 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2SbaqZ8oLOXi9k thoughts ? I'm in 2 minds what 2 go with now 😂
@sgtjenko
@sgtjenko 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.. So that board doesn't need tanking then as it's waterproof?
@pauldelamere
@pauldelamere 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy I’ll have a go now.
@mihalyi26
@mihalyi26 4 жыл бұрын
Could you let me know what kind of tile edge trim did you use? (brand etc)
@KdeB
@KdeB 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Kris, this is great info, helped me out massively. How long do you leave the primer to set 1 to 2 hours before adding the adhesive, i am using mapei rapidset adhesive ?
@BryWorYT
@BryWorYT 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of 'tile adhesive' were you using there - mortar (i.e. thinset), mastic or a mortar/mastic hybrid ?
@davidwaite566
@davidwaite566 Жыл бұрын
What do you seal the edge of shower tray with before tiling
@pleasurebricks2677
@pleasurebricks2677 4 жыл бұрын
Any info. about the shower waste trap? Thanks
@davehunter6920
@davehunter6920 4 жыл бұрын
no washer or silicone between the waste and tray?
@BionicRusty
@BionicRusty 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thank you 😊
@kevinworrell5474
@kevinworrell5474 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kris great video which has helped a lot. My question is,,,, when you say seal the edges of the shower tray,,,, what do you use for the sealing based on the video.
@jamesnlou
@jamesnlou 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the tray need to be stuck to the floor? What about the wood expanding and contracting?
@boyasaka
@boyasaka 2 жыл бұрын
It should never be stuck to the floor
@Criticodoscriticos
@Criticodoscriticos 2 жыл бұрын
Never stuck it on the floor that rule number 1.
@davidleigh5211
@davidleigh5211 Жыл бұрын
Can you stick it the floor if it tiles
@spoonz1065
@spoonz1065 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2SbaqZ8oLOXi9k Thoughts ?
@charliechimples
@charliechimples 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid thanks for sharing. 🐵
@simmo321
@simmo321 3 жыл бұрын
Trap will leak without silicone on top, I always leave a gap to get my hand under to make sure it seals properly and then tile the floor after
@dermotmckee1418
@dermotmckee1418 2 жыл бұрын
No seal strip on back of tray?
@sharesgames9546
@sharesgames9546 4 ай бұрын
8:09 are you going to have a removable panel on the back of tha toilet? How is the cistern going to be accessed?
@DaveJudd
@DaveJudd 4 жыл бұрын
Never seen a tray put in with tile adhesive before,shrinkage might be a problem if it get wet.
@spoonz1065
@spoonz1065 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2SbaqZ8oLOXi9k
@theplumber4934
@theplumber4934 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be wary of using tile adhesive as it's too strong and can lead to tray cracking, Manufacturer's Instructions usually say use a WEAK sand and cement mix for this reason. The cement is not to stick the tray to the floor but to simply allow a load bearing surface. Follow the M I s or lose the warranty. Why not call Ideal Standard and ask if tile adhesive is ok?
@halemotors4084
@halemotors4084 2 жыл бұрын
yeh with you on this one, sticking its not good.
@spoonz1065
@spoonz1065 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2SbaqZ8oLOXi9k Thoughts ?
@hefrobs
@hefrobs 7 ай бұрын
Ideal Standard's instructions for this tray actually specify sand and cement with plasticiser or ceramic floor tile adhesive with a min 10mm bed.
@boyasaka
@boyasaka Жыл бұрын
I personally lay tray Draw round it Cut floor tile to fit but don’t fix floor tiles Then remove a bit floor board and then can get hand under neath shower tray to put tray on Then test with water for leaks , Doing it your way , how are you 100 percent sure your trap isn’t leaking ?
@hefrobs
@hefrobs 7 ай бұрын
Ideal Standard's instructions for these trays do state that a min 10mm bed of ceramic floor tile adhesive could be used or sand and cement with a plasticiser. Maybe some of the comments telling you to read the MI should read it themselves 😅
@adamthekid190
@adamthekid190 4 жыл бұрын
I need a bathroom fitted we're are you located?
@briansearle4138
@briansearle4138 3 жыл бұрын
Help for Heros bracket Topman 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@brianking3565
@brianking3565 3 жыл бұрын
Why no classi seal?
@andrewhayes4246
@andrewhayes4246 4 жыл бұрын
Come on mate, you should have put a block of wood under the trap to make it simple to thread the top in! 😁
@menotyou5065
@menotyou5065 4 жыл бұрын
Any recommendations for the tile adhesive? Does it need to be waterproof?
@johnadams1976
@johnadams1976 10 ай бұрын
don't use it!
@paulalvarez8936
@paulalvarez8936 4 жыл бұрын
What are you using to glue the tray down?
@robertgemmell1485
@robertgemmell1485 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Alvarez errrrrrr watch the video again and listen
@mickdanvers1530
@mickdanvers1530 Жыл бұрын
AMATURE
@glenncole7721
@glenncole7721 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I am aiming to fit a shower in my bathroom soon but I can never find KZbin footage of how to do it properly (from start to finish) on a CONCRETE floor! :(
@TheAj48
@TheAj48 4 жыл бұрын
Have i seen you before somewhere like on a West Ham channel? great stuff mate come on you irons.
@harryjames7675
@harryjames7675 10 ай бұрын
There's little agreement to be found on this topic. You're all just doing your best and getting by. The shower is the hardest item in the bathroom because it is so inaccessible when it does leak and will need to be destroyed in order to fix it. Arm yourself with as much fundamental logic as you can bear and good luck to you how it works out. The worst that can happen is having to do it all again down the line in this existence we call life. If you want to know any answers regarding the meaning of life if indeed there is any, do not look any further than youtube itself. But by the time youve watched it all, it might have run out and you'll regret ever reading the comments section in the first place.
@tifo2926
@tifo2926 4 жыл бұрын
Normally u put plumbers putty before to tide.
@maksbrovler3466
@maksbrovler3466 2 жыл бұрын
WOOD IN IN BATHROOM?greting from Serbia
@boyasaka
@boyasaka Жыл бұрын
Mira flight trays are the best But I don’t use the Mira trap £30 for a mcalpine trap is well worth it Then you have the best tray and best trap
@boyasaka
@boyasaka 2 жыл бұрын
The shower tray should not be stuck down to the floor There is no need what so ever , and if it is stuck down with tile adhesive, and there is any movement in the floor , if the shower tray is resin , it can crack Just bed the tray on some cement and just use silicone to stick the 2 edges of the tray that are against the wall The tray isn’t gonna go anywhere just cos it’s not stuck to the floor
@chrise202
@chrise202 2 жыл бұрын
Bed on some cement????
@69cookieboy1
@69cookieboy1 Жыл бұрын
@@chrise202 6 to 1 sand and cement with some plasticiser
@spoonz1065
@spoonz1065 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2SbaqZ8oLOXi9k Thoughts ?
@starryabraham1224
@starryabraham1224 4 жыл бұрын
Love the tutorial, but if the shower floor is tiled already can you still fix the shower tray?
@tolgacetli8194
@tolgacetli8194 4 жыл бұрын
i see why not just repeat the same process put primer on tile then glue.
@carlholroyd1462
@carlholroyd1462 4 жыл бұрын
ATISIVE!
@MadDog_Rules
@MadDog_Rules 2 ай бұрын
4 years late, but shouldn't there have been a waterproof tape on the Jackoboard in that far corner?
@Crazyoldman84
@Crazyoldman84 3 жыл бұрын
Shower trays are heavy and don't need sticking down. If you have to get to the waste underneath for any reason you are going to have serious problems.
@spoonz1065
@spoonz1065 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2SbaqZ8oLOXi9k
@ballingJV
@ballingJV 3 жыл бұрын
Really good video should you not have put wet board
@tomvincent5596
@tomvincent5596 Жыл бұрын
That's the whole idea. You don't want the tray to be stuck down. Tile adhesive will crack the tray. Sand and cement beds the tray and doesn't adhere.
@spoonz1065
@spoonz1065 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2SbaqZ8oLOXi9k
@spoonz1065
@spoonz1065 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts ?
@adamgray4288
@adamgray4288 2 жыл бұрын
Ateesive
@johnadams1976
@johnadams1976 10 ай бұрын
nooooo! tile adhesive is a bad idea! Sure way for it to crack if any movement... if you do use it then you need to leave the plastic sheeting on the bottom so that it beds down but DOESN'T stick.
@sharesgames9546
@sharesgames9546 4 ай бұрын
I thought you first fix the shower tray and then tile.
@fatimajafry1349
@fatimajafry1349 4 жыл бұрын
I want to design my new toilet how can we contact you
@rohitaery9264
@rohitaery9264 3 жыл бұрын
We r work for only install bathroom
@robertparsons8849
@robertparsons8849 3 жыл бұрын
If tile adhesive is the best way why do all the tray manufacturers say sand and cement? Not criticism a genuine question.
@johncoen1468
@johncoen1468 3 жыл бұрын
Heard tile adhesive may crack tray if floors moves a few mill.according to Rodger bisby from skill builder anyway
@robertparsons8849
@robertparsons8849 3 жыл бұрын
@@johncoen1468 Thanks, the tray manufacturers insist on sand and cement for a reason I've spoken to some of them. Most "experts" on You tube use anything but , including tile adhesive and even silicone. I think even Roger B does one using tile adhesive, I usually rate his input.
@annastarkey9284
@annastarkey9284 3 жыл бұрын
I was watching skill builder earlier as my husband and myself are looking for tips, he did say you can use tile adhesive but put a plastic sheet between adhesive and tray so that the tray doesn’t directly stick to the adhesive. If stuck directly to the tray he said any movement in the house, floor etc might crack the shower base.
@robertparsons8849
@robertparsons8849 3 жыл бұрын
@@annastarkey9284 I saw that but don't like the idea. I stick to what the manufacturer says then no come back to me.
@tracer1127
@tracer1127 3 жыл бұрын
Just fitted a Mira tray and the instruction said stick down with either sand cement or silicon. I’ve used ct1 for years and never had any issues. Obviously I make sure that the substrate is suitable and solid. The manufacturers sell leg kits for most of the trays available in the uk so sand and cement is a right load of cobblers. If the tray can withstand the weight of an obese guy with say 5 legs it can certainly withstand that weight on the floor. If anything the suction of the tile adhesive could suck the tray and crack it.
@roybatty4687
@roybatty4687 3 жыл бұрын
Attesive?
@chrispictures1
@chrispictures1 3 жыл бұрын
How com no seal on top , just underneath, wouldn’t plumbers mait work. Surely this will leak as you used nothing
@johncoen1468
@johncoen1468 3 жыл бұрын
Or even better than plumbers mate use classi seal
@stuartoxley61
@stuartoxley61 4 жыл бұрын
Lambsteaks
@jolly1300
@jolly1300 3 ай бұрын
No tanking , no classi seal , 🤔
@paulhugginsantiadvertisements
@paulhugginsantiadvertisements 8 ай бұрын
Terrible amd wrong on so many aspects.number one amd most importantly were is the waterproof membrane around the shower amdacross the floor.and most important why is the waste trap.not membraned into the floor this is terrible amd the.walls and floor will rot out guarantee
@aroundtheworld4917
@aroundtheworld4917 2 жыл бұрын
What the hell is ateesive??? 😂 very bizarre
@kishpatel9574
@kishpatel9574 8 ай бұрын
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