I fitted a boost ring into my Defender 200tdi. It is a little bit easier than in the video. There is more space around the injection pump. No need to remove a bolt from the engine sidecover. In my case (200tdi) there was no inner spring and only one thick shim under the pumpcover. I secured shims and spring with a cable tie to the cover, before refitting. Then there is no danger of loosing springs and shims in the engine bay. The gap between cover and pumpcase is wide enough to remove the tie when the two bolts are secured with some turns in their threads. Driving with boost pin and boost ring is a great improvement.
@Mike-yq6jg5 жыл бұрын
did it make it smoke more jens
@Tom-hl7wc2 ай бұрын
Great tip on the table tie. Works well. Thanks.
@GRAY86185 жыл бұрын
Just fitted this on my 300tdi defender. Had the Morgan Hill boost pin in a couple of months and the boost screwed up to 1.4/5 bar, and they made a huge difference to power. The boost ring however doesn't appear to make much difference unless your right up the top of the revs, which, unless you have zero mechanical sympathy and like to thrash the living daylights out of your engine, is pretty pointless! Hardly worth the fiddly job of fitting it! Before anyone asks, yes I tried numerous shim combinations! Also, Fourby, supply the kit with knurled Allen bolts, would make you stand at least half a chance of getting a grip on it to start it off on the threads!
@credovocalensemble80384 жыл бұрын
Looking for a tool to get the torx bolts out in that restricted space? On Amazon, I found the Laser 6744 ratchet flexi-head bit driver is perfect for this job. It's around 300mm long to give decent leverage on the threadlocked bolts.
@jonathangraham6893 жыл бұрын
InstaBlaster...
@Andy-in-Spain3 жыл бұрын
On a 300TDi? Its tight. Thanks
@Andy-in-Spain3 жыл бұрын
Can you heat up the screws? Can’t get the hardest accessible one out! Or is there another trick besides removing the pump? Thanks.
@ahoyhaddock6 жыл бұрын
I would advise potential purchasers to attempt to free the torx bolts before purchasing a boost ring. I followed the advice in the video but found it impossible to free the bolts with the fuel injection pump in situ, the access is very difficult, even with the bolt removed. Consequently I could not fit the boost ring.
@Andy-in-Spain3 жыл бұрын
I’m having the same problem. They act as if it can be easily done. Looking for any other tips or tricks. Maybe to heat it up? Or will melt shims?
@andrewandjelic Жыл бұрын
Since the Torx bolts are replaced by hex bolts, I used a destructive method to remove them; I used a chisel and hammer to spin the bolts around. Tightening the new bolts was simple using a trimmed hex key.
@Tom-hl7wc2 ай бұрын
@@andrewandjelicthis advice got the job done. Thanks
@simonvogel63788 ай бұрын
Hello, thanks for the video. What I'm curious about is, won't what you did damage the engine?
@GaffyTube4 жыл бұрын
What if I took out all the shims including the two that were in there before, will it make even more power
@gigantor1007 жыл бұрын
My disco 1 seems to rev up a bit quicker now. Happy with the result. Couple of things not mentioned in vid. Putting the gear back together is very tight and tricky. Also be careful that the inner spring doesn't jump out and you have to redo it all when you find it under the truck. Also make sure you replace the old O ring otherwise you will have to do the job yet again as it will leak. :(
@enigmarnr30753 жыл бұрын
@Fourby How do the additional shims not negate the additional height gained by the boost ring spacer? Seems like a net zero gain.
@zingzing50773 жыл бұрын
That was exactly what I was thinking of. Looking forward to an answer.
@scaryfakevirus5 ай бұрын
Very good point. I think I will stick to turning the origianal pin and the normal pump mods.
@trailerfitter27 жыл бұрын
What is this witchcraft I see'eth?
@egbertvonreiche85917 жыл бұрын
@landrover toolbox. Do you think this is a good modification?
@Sean-id1pn6 жыл бұрын
Sounds a bit dodge
@GRAY86185 жыл бұрын
I've fitted one, and this witchcraft your seeing is called a waste of time!
@steve608557 жыл бұрын
So,it's ok to fit both boost pin & boost ring? so long as the pump is in the standard setting?
@jeremylakenes68596 жыл бұрын
Ok. So the 300TDI has a bit over 100HP. I have a guy getting me a Boost Pin here in Brasil. From what I hear the pin will add 8-12 hp and change when the engine builds power. How much more horsepower do you guess or have tested the Boost ring mod to produce? 5? 10?
@jeremylakenes68595 жыл бұрын
Anything?
@V8GECKO3 ай бұрын
Don't know how this has popped up on my feed tonight,,,,but I must check if the p38 m51 pump has a ring
@liambird53495 жыл бұрын
Just received mine it has 2 rubber ring washers ? Is one a spare . Watching this you only fit 1 . Cheers
@Fourby5 жыл бұрын
its a spare, in case original one may leak
@jeremylakenes68596 жыл бұрын
Also, does the Boost ring make the combustion better? As in more efficient and getting better gas mileage?
@alastairsutherland93413 жыл бұрын
Ok so the boost pin is fitted likewise the boost ring and and it has made a huge difference to the performance, it does however make a screeching sound at high boost under load. Any ideas to the reason for that.?
@hondata056 ай бұрын
Does the boost ring make much difference?
@johncobra1984 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate would you be able to point me in the right direction for a drivers side front wing for a rover 214 . 192 plate , just thought id try you thanks in advance
@virenderkashyap52373 жыл бұрын
What difference in the engine is read by changing the fuel
@oldprentonian77677 жыл бұрын
Hi, top vid. I have a 200tdi. would you still recommend starting with three shims? Also, have you got any data to back up the power increases? Cheers.
@Fourby7 жыл бұрын
Every engine is different... Start conservatively and remove shims until you find the sweet spot for 'your' engine.
@oldprentonian77677 жыл бұрын
I'm not a mechanic. How will I know when I have reached the sweet spot?
@Fourby7 жыл бұрын
You drive your car more than any random mechanic, you'll know...
@oldprentonian77677 жыл бұрын
Cool. So to be clear, less shims= more power? (obvs I don't want to blow the engine).
@dysekmarcoski47306 жыл бұрын
does too much advance give a 'backfire' situation when things boost up? Will too much advance give a white/grey diesel smoke? thanks
@michaelgunning85316 жыл бұрын
What is the point with the spacer with the o-ring if ur shimming the spring up and moving the housing up with the spacer ???
@Fourby6 жыл бұрын
the boost ring and the supplied shim stack are not the same thickness
@rusyroadtogreasygold5 жыл бұрын
All the videos of this conversion I've seen nobody has actually stated how much horsepower are you gain by doing this is there anybody out there savvy enough to be able to tell me as I'm very interested in this mod thanks
@adamsantamaria56317 жыл бұрын
I have one of these on the way. Any independent reviews? Fourby, do you suggest setting the injection pump to factory settings 1.54mm advance with a dial gauge? Can you explain how this is different then just advancing the pump timing gear a bit?
@Fourby7 жыл бұрын
Facebook is full of reviews, reset your timing to stock, this ring exaggerates the built in advance mechanism inside the VE FIP
@adamsantamaria56317 жыл бұрын
Can you link me to the reviews of this item? I don't see any on FB. Just general Fourby reviews.
@Mike-yq6jg5 жыл бұрын
will it smoke more ?
@Fourby5 жыл бұрын
No, smoke less
@nzrestoration94864 жыл бұрын
A bit late to the party! Which is the better first step, using the boost pin or fitting the boost ring. 200tdi Discovery on standard settings. Ta
@Fourby4 жыл бұрын
put both together
@Mike-yq6jg5 жыл бұрын
Does it matter if one of the small washers go in first
@Fourby5 жыл бұрын
Mike 1960 what matters is the thickness of the shim pack
@Mike-yq6jg5 жыл бұрын
Ok just I got one of the small washers won't come out from around the piston
@jamesdart44647 жыл бұрын
Hi, I already have the boost pin and have just set the timing on my pump to 1.60mm. Can I still use the boost ring without going back to 1.54? Thanks
@Fourby7 жыл бұрын
you dont want to run the timing too advanced, I personally wouldn't recommend it, it may knock at the top end as the effect of the ring is across the entire rev range, it's not something we would test... your gamble...
@keidicko5 жыл бұрын
What hp gains am I looking at ? This question is for fourby! I work at a engine management calibrators and have access to a superflow dyno , I’d love to do some back to back tests .
@Fourby5 жыл бұрын
feel free, look at our website to purchase your Boost Ring for testing
@Reaper43676 жыл бұрын
OK... So... Boost Ring..on order,...Boost Pin...on order... I'm looking forward to a bit more grunt outta the old girl. Disco 300Tdi. I refered here by 'Chris at 'land Rover Toolbox :) Cheers for sharing. Brett, Australia.
@dysekmarcoski47306 жыл бұрын
in my opinion, on the 200tdi the original torx head screw sets are IMPOSSIBLE to remove with a tool. use a sharp cold chisel and hammer and loosen them both. unscrew by hand after. use a cable tie to hold together the shims and spring to re fit the new ring to pump.
@Tom-hl7wc2 ай бұрын
This got the job done. Thanks!
@lawrencewagaki2959Ай бұрын
Now am waiting for test drive
@louisplayz61943 жыл бұрын
I installed a boost pin and it leaks diesel
@dodson797 жыл бұрын
hello can this be used on a 300tdi with maf sensor. thanks
@Patmac747 жыл бұрын
the maf sensor is on the edc pump. boost pin and boost ring won't be of any use to you unfortunately but if you have an edc pump is recommended that you Google "evrymod ". It is a small electrical modification using a variable resistor and an on/off switch which increases fueling . Makes a huge difference on an edc pump.
@dodson797 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks
@hondata056 ай бұрын
This was an absolute ball ache of a job for me to do more so to get it all back in place without the shims and spring lol
@maddogpowercycles74017 жыл бұрын
Okay - so where does one of the Colonials Down Under obtain said Boost Pin & Boost Ring Techno Doodads from... And how may Oz Shekals shall be required do you know...???
@Fourby7 жыл бұрын
Mad Dog Power Cycles lol, link at the end of the vid dude!
@danthetourist7 жыл бұрын
Hi Neil, can I buy a couple of fourby stickers to put on Wilf? With all the help and advice you have offered me I think it is the least I could do to help promote your company. atb Dan.
@Fourby7 жыл бұрын
Dan Lloyd Dude, I wanna see that paint job in the flesh, drop by for coffee, I'll find you some stickers!
@danthetourist7 жыл бұрын
Fourby 100% man I have to drop Katie Mai back to billesley for her job Wednesday so if you're in I'll pop over about 19:00.
@Fourby7 жыл бұрын
yeah should be, drop me a text/phone call first though, maybe heading out...
@joeatkin53116 жыл бұрын
Will this work on a 306 d turbo?
@Fourby6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@legendboi76176 жыл бұрын
My exact question 😂
@farmertom5776 жыл бұрын
My land rover only had one original shim in there does this make any difference?
@Fourby6 жыл бұрын
Farmer Tom no, carry on as normal
@farmertom5776 жыл бұрын
@@Fourby I put the three shims in as suggested and it made no difference so have just took 1 shim out and will see if it's any better tomorow
@zingzing50773 жыл бұрын
@@farmertom577 Any difference?
@farmertom5773 жыл бұрын
@@zingzing5077 nope waste of money
@zingzing50773 жыл бұрын
@@farmertom577 thank you, good to know, i will just get the boost controller kit, as I have already messed with the standard pump and i am over the moon with the results. All the best