Battery Preconditioning & Use Waze or Google Maps: How-to for Any Ioniq EV6 GV60 eGMP Vehicle

[@tylerhall4570]

THANK YOU! The happy accident addtionally that happened was the display of XM/Sirius whilst navigating in Android Auto! One of my biggest pet peeves about the Kia Infotainment. Now, after following your steps to enable battery pre-conditioning, I have the split screen with XM displayed! YAY! 🙂

[@thelake9596]

Great find. Thanks for sharing.

[@ElectroMoviCars]

Fantastic video, thanks for the hack and explanation 👍👍 just got my 2024 EV6 Wind 😁😁

[@randyramsdell114]

You are awesome for providing such through content. Thanks!!

[@llewisiv]

Do both nav systems need to have the same destination or does the Kia one not matter? In the video they were different destinationsm

[@twcz3]

Does your GT have the light to the right of the charging port?

[@ev_kimchi]

EV6 does not have a light illuminating the charge port at night (and the charge status lights are so bright it's tough to see the charge port itself. Refreshed Ioniq 5 and EV6 fix these problems and have a charge port light. I stuck a little light on the inside of the charge port door to turn on if needed and this works great

[@bjornkullberg]

Nice video. How do you get maps/navigation on the right?

[@tylerhall4570]

Bjorn - you can enable "right side" or "left side" driving in the settings of the car.

[@ev_kimchi]

watch my video perhaps? goes thru the steps

[@FaaBaar]

What's that tbox device??

[@PraiseYAyoupeople]

EV6 needs manual pre-condition option badly.

[@ev_kimchi]

Totally agree! The newer ccNc infotainment in the EV9 appears to have this, so I'm wondering if this can be updated to current cars, or if the EV6 mid cycle refresh will bring this improvement to the car.

[@FoxInClogs]

@@ev_kimchi I hope that they'll add manual preconditioning to this spring's OTA update. How difficult can it be? (Especially now they've introduced it for the EV9. Of course, opening up the API to allow cloud navigators to start preconditioning would be a bigger improvement, but please just give us the simple, manual feature first!

[@danielseguin9784]

Thanks for the info. Do you know there's a procedure for battery preconditioning an Ioniq 6 with ABRP?

[@adamwentland7569]

As far as I’m aware the AI box module allows wireless CarPlay and Android Auto connectivity. Can you run nav data on your phone via CarPlay/AA when connecting through the AI Box w/o it disconnecting factory nav or can you only use nav on the box itself?

[@ev_kimchi]

part of the android auto and carplay spec is to detect if turn-by-turn directions are initiated on either the native or projected phone system, and to stop any already running navigation so drivers do not have two systems giving directions at once. This isn't implemented perfectly well on the Chinese AI boxes, but generally you cannot have two TBT navigations running at once -- one will stop suddenly when the car or phone realizes the other is directing you

[@brianguillot]

Awesome video. 2 things, 1. We're neighbors (Santa Clara) 2. Do you know if this works with Android auto?

[@codebluefpv]

Can’t seem to get it working with Waze or google maps, I’m in a 2024 Kia ev6 land awd package 2. I set Waze to phone speaker and mute all. Once plugged in to car play it defaults audio to CarPlay over riding play thru phone speakers. Cancels the car nav and the split screen for car nav stops once I set destination on Waze or google.

[@ev_kimchi]

As I mention in the video, you can't achieve this with CarPlay and an iPhone. You have to use a CarlinKit CarPlay Ai Box Magic Box or similar device which are Android devices that fool your car into thinking they're an iPhone running CarPlay to put an Android device onto your car's screen. Upside: run any app from the Play Store, including games and Netflix. Downside: this costs from $100-200 depending on whether you get one that has a good processor and app memory.

[@codebluefpv]

@@ev_kimchi right. I over looked that part. My bad. I’m not willing to to that length.

[@FoxInClogs]

Thanks for this tip/walk through, but I'm using an wireless adaptor for Android Auto (AAWireless) and couldn't get it to work. Is this purely a Carplay hack? Or is important in which order you start the two navigators? I first started the native navigator and waited until preconditioning started and then started Waze. (With the Sound to Phone Speaker option on and Sounds off, to be sure.) The native navigator and preconditioning switched off as soon as I started to navigate to a destination in Waze.

[@FoxInClogs]

I'll only need this on long motorway/autobahn trips, so my strategy will be to use Waze, then switch to the native navigator once I'm down to 40% SOC to navigate to a charging station on my route. Even the crummy Hyundai navigator surely can't go wrong on such short distances on major highways(?)

[@ev_kimchi]

This only works with the CarlinKit CarPlay Ai Box, not with an iPhone running CarPlay, or an Android phone running Android Auto. This doesn't work with AAWireless because that passes through the signals that the other system is navigating, which will stop the first one so that only one system is providing TBT directions.

[@ev_kimchi]

That's probably a good alternative!

[@prevailz1]

I've been doing this with the same tbox and I never needed to do split screen or disable voice. But I do come across factory maps/navigation randomly freezing, so maybe that's to do with not turning on phone speaker on waze..

[@ev_kimchi]

interesting -- without disabling voice (or doing what I mention for Waze), I'll have the native navigation cancel on me when it detects that the TBOX is speaking nav instructions. As for split screen, you don't absolutely need this, but it is helpful to confirm that the factory nav is continuing so that you aren't surprised later on preconditioning didn't happen.

[@Abevlife]

Does it work only in tbox ? I have a Motorola android device for projection. Will that work?

[@tylerhall4570]

@@Abevlife No it works with my AAWireless device as well. 🙂

[@rinbine2713]

first suggestion, Just use the kia navigation. And, You can change DC maximum charging percent in road trip. I suggest 80%. It will apply the route planner. second suggestion, use the kia navigation, When you get close to your destination, use Apple CarPlay when the battery is sufficient.

[@ev_kimchi]

thanks -- sounds complicated. you do you!

[@bigbertha8]

Holy Hannah is this way more complicated then it needs to be. All they need to do is add a manual activation mode. I can see why they don't, but just add a bunch of disclaimers or something. Great video though!

[@PhotoJohn80]

Lord this is not worth the hassle. Fix your car Kia and Hyundai

[@ev_kimchi]

they did -- the refreshed models of the Ioniq 5 and EV6, coming this fall to the US, (as well as newer models like the EV9) have a simple "precondition" button to press in the new ccNC infotainment.

[@PhotoJohn80]

@@ev_kimchi Still doesn’t fix the thousands of vehicles already on the road. Pretty lame support of the drop the older models that quickly. Tesla still has updates on older models.

[@ev_kimchi]

This isn't a Tesla. It has other charms other than its software updates.

[@PhotoJohn80]

@@ev_kimchi I don’t think you should defend a multi million dollar company. They should support the old models for a minimum of 10 years. No excuses.

[@cliff9887]

@@PhotoJohn80who cares if it’s a multimillion dollar company. There’s reasons they do and don’t do certain things.

[@volcalstone]

I can't believe they still haven't done this yet. Also they need to make a better icon as that coil one isn't working and it's so small too. Ultimately I would rather have them allow other platforms to handle the PC as well and not just the stock nav as that one leaves a lot to be desired. I know they would have to open up the API so hopefully they will soon.

[@ev_kimchi]

fixed in the next gen of their infotainment, coming to 2025 EV6 this fall in US. EV9 has a button for preconditioning now

[@volcalstone]

@@ev_kimchi yeah I've seen this but I believe the 2025 EV6 won't come out until early next year. It's the 2025 Ioniq 5 that will be out later this fall instead.