Battle for Macragge | Ultramarines vs Tyranids | Warhammer 40k 2nd edition w Minisodes

[@Mattw1987]

Perfect collab both armies work so well together on the board, both look amazing with the old school models.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

🤩

[@1985slipstream]

7:12 Calgar will be rescued by his marines on that hill. However you will be sacrificed to buy time for his escape. service in death...

[@daiatnara971]

It's so good to see the humble 2nd edition plastic Tacticals in action - miniatures have come so far since their day, but back when I first opened my 2nd edition box they were mighty heroes, and today they are again. I've watched both videos (thanks for the reminder before giving away the result), it really was a great collaboration between the two of you - and on top of everything else, the exchange of gifts at the end would warm even the most cynical of hearts.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

It was a fantastic experience and I hope to do it again sometime 😊

[@christophersteen1873]

People forget that games workshop forged their empire by having the highest quality cheapest miniatures available, they are not cheap anymore but these marines didn't at all break the bank back then. But compared to anything else you could find they were amazing, I mean the alternative kit before these were the beaky marines! Those were horrible!

[@PaulGaither]

​@christophersteen1873 - I don't know what they cost in the UK [which I guess where GW is located], but in California in the 90s when I was growing up, they were a premium product and hobby. It was probably shipping across an ocean and the continental USA to get to the west coast, but they were not something you could buy after saving some lunch money.

[@KingKrebin]

Great to see two of the best new oldhammer channels together.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Best eh? That's very kind of you 😊

[@D1-Games]

As I commented under Ed's battlereport; this culmination of two great channels working towards such an awesome end-battle is hugely inspirational! Many thanks to you both for the amount of work put into this and the sharing of the experience. Please don't stop here 🙂👍

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

The videos will keep coming. The game between us was more challenging to organise but I hope to do it again 😊

[@JimtheEvo]

honestly thought you and Ed from minisodes were the same channel! After all, why shouldn't I have two great old hammer channels to binge!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I take that as a compliment 🥰

[@ghostlincoln9304]

I found both your channels simultaneously, hardcore

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

🤘

[@ShredPanthony]

The crossover I’ve been waiting for! 🎉 🎉🎉

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

😍

[@Bluecho4]

I'll say!

[@unkelTP]

This is warhammer for us Longbeards.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Indeed 😁

[@adamfox1669]

No beard but I’m deffo long in the tooth

[@Msatthew]

I'm thinking about getting a beard extension, I'm so fascinated by this edition!

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

And what bout us short beards? Or in my case no beard?

[@PaulGaither]

You and Ed seem to be fantastic chaps worth having a plint and roll of the dice with together. Cheers, gentlemen.

[@Modge17]

This was the crossover that I needed to see! You guys are my favourite content creators at the moment!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Yay, thank you!

[@Bluecho4]

An Ultramarines hero for a painting of a cat. A fair trade, if I've ever seen one.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Indeed 😍 neither of us expected it off the other which made it a nice surprise.

[@aidanoconnell]

Such an amazing crossover, I've thought before how well your two channels dovetail together!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Cheers

[@the_green_haired_guy]

Awesome!!!!

[@cuddlemuffin44]

I demand more episodes like this one

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I'll do my best when I have time. Minisodes has more batreps if thats what you are after.

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

2:45 that servitor got cake.

[@bobmoore-tg4vv]

Two of my favourite creators!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

☺️

[@MasterShake9000]

Babe wake up new era of 2nd Ed just dropped

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

It is here 😅

[@MasterShake9000]

@@Miniscape-wh40k the next step is for you guys to eventually host a full 2nd ed “tournament” (but in the friendly mindset of this game rather than a true competitive tournament)

[@MasterShake9000]

Maybe more a “weekender” than a “tournament”, so to speak

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

@@MasterShake9000 a good idea and I would be up for attending but it would have to be friendly. I can't be done with min maxxing lists. Also I also don't have the energy to host it. I would need to outsource that job.

[@willnox1]

Loved seeing you guys together!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks. It was a great experience.

[@kairos468]

I'm looking forward to sitting down and watching this! Keep the retro content coming, mate

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Awesome

[@zirrian]

I started bingewatching your and Ed's videos last week, and it made me start to look into 2nd ed. I had a couple of orks and marines in my stash, a bunch of tokens and templates, plus some misc books - I painted up two minis, one Blood Angel marine and one ork, and now I am looking forward to having more done and trying the game, as I was born a year after the 2nd ed box release, and in a bumfuck nowhere part of Eastern Europe, this era has a nostalgic feeling to me. Thanks for the inspiring videos for the both of you!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Great news. I am glad we could of inspire you. I hope you find joy in second edition. It is a wonderful experience.

[@zirrian]

@@Miniscape-wh40k hope it will be, only need to hunt down the physical rulebooks :) On a slight sidenote, have you seen the 3d printable orks from Trollet? They are my other source of inspiration for 2nd ed.

[@Grymbaldknight]

As I said on Minisodes' video, I didn't even know either of you existed until less than a month ago, and now I'm really glad you've done a Collab. Thanks very much for this experience, guys! Also, although this is second edition, I'm weirdly glad to see stuff from later editions creeping in, like those servo-haulers. It's a nice little acknowledgement to the fact that although the old ways are often better, sometimes new things are worth adding to the "Tapestry of Legends", too.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Tapestry of legends is a great term to use, but you make an excellent point. I think every era has it's merits. It's just about finding the best of those.

[@smoss9813]

Two of my favourite channels fighting to the death!? Now this is KZbin drama I can get behind:) great work guys!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

🤩

[@ikeduno7973]

My love for the Emperor was sorely tested by the Rubicon. Years passed. What to do? Languish, apparently, till I found You, and found Ed. Somehow this helped my chapter pass into the future and also be a chapter made up by a little kid in the mid 90s. A half-decade of dust but theyve been recovered from the storage bin warp storm. Web covered and still on their sprues and mid-build. Im so excited!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Wooooooo 🙌

[@danielcannon9893]

Great work! Love seeing the assembled collections duking it out

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@liamroche1295]

Very cool

[@NADGEN]

LOL VHS tapes for terrain is exactly what we did as kids too. :'D

[@dustinzaccaria7644]

Just finished watch the batrep on Ed’s channel and came here straight way. Kudos on the great content. Looks like you both had fun.

[@imperialjake114]

I watched the battle report first, well done great content to you both!

[@CherokeeWill]

great video and mock battle of Macragge! the cute cat painting was a nice gift as was the cool looking errant armor marine. loved the narrative focus as well with the bits of lore like how all of 1st company got wiped out. keep up the good work dude you'll get more subscribers in no time!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Cheers. Very kind of you to say 😊

[@finn_english]

Great crossover, really enjoyed that!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thank you

[@Jan_Iedema]

Pablo oozes that big brain energy 😂

[@barrelwimp2698]

I always wondered if you guys were in cahoots. Awesome battle report keep it up

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Cheers dude! We have only been in cahoots for this one so far.

[@genghisgahan9623]

I really enjoyed the battle report this morning on your sister channel.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Belzediel]

Ah, very different video from what I'd been trained to expect. The wife used to refer to her dark times as something very similar to 'The Battle For MaCragge'. Circe is usually seer-say or sir-see depending, somewhat, on which school of attic Greek you prefer. It's the name of a witch in the Odyssey what turned the crew into adorable piglets which ran around all cute and bacony, except for Odysseus who was safe thanks to Holy Moly, who told her off until she changed them back, except for Dave Thessalonicus who'd already been turned into some smashing sandwiches. Lawyers still debate if this was cannibalism. Oh, and, George R. R. R. R. Ooh. R. R. Doc Martin called one of the characters in A Game Of Ice and Cream Circe.

[@ghostlincoln9304]

Sensible chuckle achieved 👏

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

😅

[@Forced_Rhubarb]

Truly glorious!

[@legionnaireminis]

The colab of the century 🔥🔥

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

🤩

[@dazofthemoo1531]

Excellent!! Love it!! I started with Rogue Trader & The Compendium, then 2nd edition has basically been where we've stayed. With a mixture of all 1st & 2nd edition (and a ton of house rules printed out) they're are 12 of us that still play. We've found that the above rules work best with SEIGE. (There's a 1st edition seige rule book as well) . Plus Necromunda fits seamlessly into 2nd edition. Today between us, we have all armies covered (not all guard regiments) so we cant use 2nd edition for all our games. Really great to see them getting the love they deserve. (Most consider 2nd the worst edition) I Love the fact that your missile launcher was honoured for his actions. I guarantee this will give him confidence for his upcoming battles. Talking alot, i know. (Blame the ale) but.. during the never ending Nid invasion i once had a single Swooping Hawk charged by a single Genestealer. After dispatching the Stealer the Hawk was honoured by having two 'feathers' painted silver. Ah, yes.. 40K.., best game ever. Thanks GW.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Glad you have much love for 2nd. I wish I had more chances to play.

[@taytonclait]

The 2nd Ed Bromance is real!

[@dungeonquesting8075]

You guys are both the best!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

No you are 😉

[@Jedi_Scowen]

I watch both channels. I consume all 2nd edition content as this was my time in 40k

[@Tigerheart01]

Minisodes and Miniscape! Keeping 2nd edition alive!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

🤩

[@matthiusix]

My solution to Tyranid problems in 2nd edition was the Cyclone Missile Launcher. At least one. Plus at least one squad of Terminators, equipped with an Assault Cannon. For close encounters.

[@_A.d.G_]

Glorious. A couple mistakes on Ultras side: no Cyclone and no Tigurius. Cyclone launcher could place "pizzas" (hit + misfire applies) on the table that would have wiped whole units (once I killed Abaddon, Kharn, Ahriman and a Termies retinue 'cause they made the grave mistake of being clotted too close in cover). Tigurius had the Hood and the Staff, that with the "warp vortex" power were absolutely terrifying for any opponent. Finally, Calgar had the special rule for multiple combat with the Gauntlets: basically he could have charged into waves after waves of lesser Tyranids and emerge always winner, covered in a thick layer of xenos entrails.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks for the advice, though not playing competitively, I wasn't too worried about maxxing out the list.

[@christophersteen1873]

Hah, oh my god I remember that, you could fire all 10 missiles at once and it was almost the most powerful attack in the entire game. Even a refractor field wouldn't save you because you couldn't teleport far enough.

[@christophersteen1873]

@@Miniscape-wh40k2nd edition wasn't called herohammer for nothing!

[@christophersteen1873]

I would love to see you paint a beaky marine boxed set, there are like 25 marines in one of those boxes and they are insane. So hard to build and paint one of those sets so that they look good. Most of the poses make them look drunk. Back in 2nd a load of people still played with 1st edition dreadnaughts and beaky marines, well into 3rd some people still used them!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I would happily accept your challenge but they are not so easy to come by these days. I'm focusing my videos on mainly what I know and those were before my time sadly.

[@ironbomb6753]

What a cool video. I like the whole thing, from the 2nd edition models to the cool terrain. We're those ruins from the 2nd edition cardboard that we're built up to be 3d? Awesome. 👍

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Yes they were made by Ed from Minisodes. He produced a video showing how he made them. Thanks for the comment 😊

[@bringbattlewargaming8720]

That was cool. Any chance you can bring a force of Ultramarines to our weekend anniversary in October in Plymouth?

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks mate. Sadly October is a very busy month for me and Plymouth is a long way 😫

[@bringbattlewargaming8720]

@@Miniscape-wh40k shame. Nevermind

[@dongalt4203]

Good vid mate

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks 😊

[@utubenoobie01]

Courage and Honour Brother! Send them gribblies back where they belong! Regards from the 1st Legion!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Courage and Honour sir!

[@sodapopbrosky]

This was so good.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Glad you liked it

[@Magnakarpa]

Great videos you put out man! Btw, what kind of blue are you using on your ultramarines?

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thank you very much. I used citadel caledor sky.

[@smole321]

I loved everything apart from that indomitus campaign badge on the rocket launcher man 👀

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Ha, try not to worry about it 😉

[@smole321]

@@Miniscape-wh40k I'm just kidding obviously 🤣 i love the 2nd ed content! I have a copy of dark millennium that's mostly complete if you would like it to use in another video?

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

@@smole321 no worries 😄 that is very kind of you. I have many videos planned but I would like to delve into Dark Millenium at some point. If you want to email me I think it is somewhere on the channel. Cheers.

[@smole321]

@@Miniscape-wh40k I did have a look but cannot find it anywhere 😩

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

@@smole321 [e-mail]

[@Steelstorm6]

I love them! When will you field them against the Minisode Marines? :-)

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Maybe soon 🤫

[@team_rex]

It is at this fateful point that I should admit I totally thought you were both the same person and there was one (amazing) Oldhammer channel I was getting into…

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

😅

[@childrenofthesun471]

What's the track at the end of the video ? :o it's so nostalgic

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

It's not one you would have heard of. I mix all my own tracks from pre recorded loops.

[@childrenofthesun471]

@@Miniscape-wh40k a fairs! Honestly it sounds really good reminds me of old school techno

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

@@childrenofthesun471 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmPPg6dta8uLqKMsi=LT3OlyzEBpEwt8_l the track could be in this video where I collected several tracks I mixed

[@klausjessen5014]

Epic Battle

[@robertgagne2388]

What Warhammer was truely meant to be!!! Well Fought gentlemen, :)

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

😍

[@HurBenny]

3:18 I don’t know how “special” this mission is for the tyrannids.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

It's dinner time. Yeah fine I get your point 🤣

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

THIS is Proper 40K!

[@DavidCuthbertson]

Great video, looks like an epic game. Sounds like you need a rematch at 2000 points! 😊

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I would welcome that

[@JWSoul]

I enjoyed this GG

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I'm glad

[@EricIMiami]

Tech marine is caked

[@hunchbackhobbyist387]

Imagine if they made a 40k RTS like dawn of war, but based on the old edition models with the bright colours and style

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I would give them my money that's for sure

[@Cynidecia]

I would love to paint a nids army like that.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Ed shows you how on his vids. But you may already know that 😄

[@milkhoneycomics827]

this is wholesome as fuck

[@GrapeHate]

THIS IS FUCKING GREAT!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thank you buddy

[@StephenGraves]

Sir-see. Like the character from Game of Thrones.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Game of what? 😅

[@onionhat745]

Tyranids were incredibly swingy in 2nd. Sadly, that was the last Edition where Tyranids felt like a truly asymmetrical army, because that's what they're supposed to be.

[@christophersteen1873]

I started playing in rogue trader and really played a lot of 2nd edition games back in the day, and I don't think I ever lost a tyranid attack game, and no one would let me play that scenario anymore. Then when 3rd came out in the whitepaper you got myconid attack, and no one would let you play with that either. Back in the day no one would ever let you play special characters either... What a weird game, it was so unbalanced you had to cut half the stuff or it would just take over the game. Narrative is the way to go!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Big agree. Maybe your opponents were sore losers 😆

[@redgreen09]

well yes seeen it and SPMs win but not mutch neat game willl be tuning in to the nest oneas do new

[@bobbobertbobberton1073]

2nd edition was the best.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I love it

[@MisterNineEleven]

That guy in the beginning looks like he has to roll for difficult terrain in order to not scrape his head on the ceiling...

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

😅🫠

[@Trailerparkbubbles]

Is Miniscape the same thing as Minisodes?

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

We're two different channels who both love oldhammer

[@Trailerparkbubbles]

@@Miniscape-wh40k Lol i know! I subscribed to one Mini-channel and then i saw video from another Mini-channel and i thought 'wait didn't i already subscibe to this guy? aaah f*ck it subscribe one more time'. And now i'm watching all videos from both channels. Great content, great videos. Keep it up!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

@@Trailerparkbubbles I am glad you're enjoying and thanks for subbing

[@dean40king]

I knew it the ultramarines of course best every opponent

[@bob-zl5up]

I thought you two were the same people.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

😅

[@Horseman_04]

Awesome!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Cheers