Did Curry & Luka Break The NBA With The 3 Point Shot?

[@phipsdeus2]

So both teams shoot 50% from three and THIS is the game we point to!? There has to be some game where both teams shot 20% from three.

[@Kn1ght_Shade17]

Yeah, literally the hornets and bulls the day before lol. That was ugly

[@geechiedan68]

Yeah this is such a horrible take Luka and Steph aren the problem....do wizards v hornets or not even too bad teams...do 2 middle of the road teams like hawks v bulls then you will see why ppl are less intersted. The league has to make it so there are other viable was to win than just bad shooters chucking 3s

[@michaelhaydenbell]

​@@geechiedan68It has fuckall to do with 3s, it's access to games, god damn...

[@wtrmrkph]

Yeah or that Lakers Grizz game were they took 81 free throws. Lol This is one of the more entertaining games lately.

[@metalmaster7789]

Is almost like clickbait. It is not about understanding the peeve, but rather pointing out the excitement that brings the 3 point shots. He does not even consider the fact that it might not be a net positive, despite everything he said. I think there is a true excitement on threes and plays revolving around it, but it does not make an overall better product as a net positive given that the downsides far surpasses the positives.

[@NinjaPopeXue]

As a Mavs fan, the regional sports network debacle left me with no legal avenue to watch my team for the past 3 years. Thankfully, this year they reached a new agreement with a local station so now I can actually see them on TV again. I recall a stat last year that Denver had the lowest viewership due to similar circumstances despite having the best player in the world. Personally, I enjoy the quality of the game just as much as when I started paying attention to the league 25 years ago.

[@MCFrutek]

U can use streams. They are free.

[@bartholomew1608]

If you have working internet, there is no other excuse to miss any game you want to see

[@AB-bx5to]

Thank you! The whole "ratings are down" is such a tired narrative. Im sure it was much easier to track back when cable was the only method for watching games. Nowadays, there are more options than 3s being put up 😂😂

[@dataunknown]

Foul-baiting is still my biggest peeve with the NBA. I know that some of them are technically fouls, but it doesn't make the game easier to watch.

[@jdapaul1351]

Agreed. I really don't like players who force the refs to give them the whistle by questionable moves.

[@BelieverStarcraft]

Blame KObe

[@sbeaber]

It's the inconsistencies in refereeing that gets me. You'll have people run down someone on offense and then the player will do it again and get an offensive foul. And then again and it's a defensive foul. Wth

[@truthnotfeelings]

Spot on. Tbf the foul baiting went wild when Steph emerged. Harden and Dame cannot complete with Steph as a shooter so foul baiting was a way for them (both have lead in FTA) Then LeBron went into overdrive (LeFlop isn’t new but overworking) and Joel. Then it trickled down to the entire league.

[@PanzehVideos]

The free throw per possession rate was much higher in the 90s than today.

[@peds103]

This was a great game! I don’t know if this is the game you want to use for “too much 3s” when both teams shot over 50% from beyond the arc… and they were playing not bad defense mind you. It was just an offensive masterclass from both teams. You can always find bad shots in any game. It’s easy to point out better shots you could have taken in hindsight after replaying and analyzing plays.

[@js-xl8et]

Crazy how he passed up the Bulls vs Hornets. Two teams who shouldn't be shooting a high number of 3s

[@beng4647]

Literally no one can afford cable. So no one watches the NBA.

[@greenesttea3687]

True

[@rabd3721]

And even if we can, there's a confusing number of apps that I need to signup for to get the right channel or streaming platform. There's too many painpoints for a consumer to just sit down and watch basketball.

[@ahfei6847]

why pay when it s free in the Internet?

[@greenesttea3687]

@@ahfei6847 where

[@wazzup233]

​@@greenesttea3687watch it illegally from one of the apps or go to NBA related channels on KZbin that have live broadcast but it won't show the game itself due to "copyright infringement".

[@martinblake2278]

Subbing NBA on livestream is too expensive. It's not the current rules or the insane amount of 3s, it's the cost. NBA's value is inflated.

[@_urahara_]

Everyone blaming Steph for ruining the game with 3 point shooting? IMHO, Steph found what he was good at and exploited it to win. The problem is that the league copied it and forced other players who are not particularly good at shooting to use this option as well. Now we have teams with no offensive or defensive identity and eveyone just lives and dies by the three. Defense became lazy and don't even bother contesting these shots because the league shunned away from hand checking and called foul on the slightest contact. Most stars are just in it for the money. They don't show up to play and sit down during the regular season. Worst, the fans who truly love the game are being shortchanged by no appearance of their favorite stars while getting lost in the labyrinth of subscriptions just to watch their team play.

[@Drakshl]

It sort of feels like the maths on 3's really coming to centre view because of steph was kind of tangential to his own decision making. For him, 3s are better than " a little better than 2s most of the time", and the fact that we discovered that everyone should actually be doing this by default was sort of an unhappy accident of the warriors imitator era.

[@ro2113]

Your comment is the only one here that makes any sense. Everyone else in this comment section is just on pure copium.

[@theSafetyCar]

​@Drakshl it's not just that 3s are more efficient. 3s also space the floor more and make it a lot easier to score in the paint.

[@maartenvz]

We had hand checking, no flagrant fouls and barely any 3s in the 80s yet teams averaged 110 ppg, some (Denver) even 120 ppg. Pace dictates scoring, hand checking has a minimal impact. Have you watched the kings or nuggets play, so different from what Dallas is running. Have you watched okc, Houston or Orlando defend? They would even be above league average in the 90s. Minnesota is also approached that elite range again. I feel you are either not really paying attention to what is going on or just like to complain, no identities, come on. And one more thing: can you give me some examples of offensive identities you recognized back in the days besides the triangle offense? Defense is lazy? Have you watched new young star defenders like amen and tari in Houston, cason Wallace, jalen suggs, nickeil Alexander walker? I do completely agree the refs should do a better job of calling by the book.

[@floijd]

"Defense became lazy" - are you sure about that?

[@Kidkinsey]

It’s just ALL the games tend to look the same or get decided by who had the hotter 3pt night. I learned so many different plays and sets from this channel, but now it seems like most teams PNR drive and kick 3

[@maartenvz]

Have you seen the kings or the nuggets play? And can you give me examples of how the game was more varied back in the days (when the average possession resulted in an iso, either down low or from a cleared out side)?

[@Kidkinsey]

@maartenvz I said most teams, the kings nuggets gsw spurs and a few others don't look like the rest but as for what i meant let's look at 2012. Lakers ran the triangle, clippers were PNR heavy, grit and grind grizzlies post up merchants, Melo knicks iso heavy, spurs HEAVY ball movement, okc iso heavy etc Teams seemed to heave different styles and not every game was outshoot you from 3 or lose

[@Aivern]

​@@maartenvz he gave u the examples, what's your comeback?

[@rogelioatempa1115]

​@@AivernI can name as much teams that have varying offenses such as the Nuggets, Grizzlies, Lakers, Warriors, Celtics and Thunder. Just as many teams as he named that play differently.

[@SoICYDRE662]

​@@Aivern he has no comeback

[@banan9377]

I think an out of game reason why 3s are used more is because it's less tiring, not just in the game but over the long stretch of the season. A playstyle with a lot of 3s is less taxing and less injury prone than playing with a lot of contact in the paint. Kinda similar but not involving 3s, Ja Morant said he's done dunking and is doing layups because it's less injury prone. One of the criticisms of the current format is that there's too many games played, I think because of that the league as a whole is also moving towards gameplay that is more energy efficient and less injury risk as a reaction.

[@cptfwiffo]

Still the same amount of games as 30 years ago. The last 15 years has seen a massive drop in total minutes played. It used to be around 3200 or so (total minutes played leaders). Now the leader of the last 10 years hasn't come close to that, it seems at least 200 less minutes. So there already is 'load management' being done. And yes, it is way more energy efficient to not run. But hey, imagine you get what you paid for. Fun fact: the grizzlies are more of a run&gun team, with more high pace. Europe is rediscovering pace *and winning* with it. People just got lazy. And yes, an open layup is still better then an open three.

[@theSafetyCar]

No, there's a lot more movement going on off ball in order to create those 3s. Do players are running more offensively to get a good shot and running more defensively to keep up with thier man. Possessions from early 2000s and 90s were a lot more static, with lets cuts and little to no off ball actions compared to the modern game.

[@banan9377]

@theSafetyCar in game sure you could argue that running around is still more tiring, but in terms of injury prevention it's not close, having to play through contact against other players is a lot more risky than being movement shooter which is generally seeking away from contact. Sure players like Steph and Klay do get injuries still but there are a lot more players who play closer to the board that get a lot of injuries.

[@maartenvz]

The number of drives per game is up, pace is way higher than it was in the 90s/00s, there are more dunks. Plus, in the 90s most teams would just dump it down low for a 1 on 1 post up with the rest standing around. Due to the spacing, there is a lot more movement in todays game, especially on defence.

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@theSafetyCar I think we need to look at the context. yes there were less overall movement in the 90s and 2000s but i would argue those were precision cuts with more efficient movement. Yes you wouldn't find a lot of running around to get an open look but i would argue that the cuts back then were timing based and the cutting was more straight forward with precise spacing just like the triangle.

[@lloyd0006]

The reason I personally watch less games is all down to the refs. The NBA is so soft with fouls which I hate. I want more physical play in the paint but most refs call every kind of small contact BUT some other refs just let every major contact go and so it's just really frustrating and too inconsistent to watch enjoyably. So much of what I love about the NBA is the back chat/fighting/physical play between players and the aggression but the refs seem to want to stomp that out by giving technical fouls for smiling or celebrating too much. Tech fouls for hanging on the ring too long after an amazing dunk? What the hell? Does the NBA think that is good for the ratings?

[@cruzanassassin]

As a Wemby fan, id rather see him drive and dunk on ppl than shoot 10 threes a game

[@MalikFrost12]

Golden State really left bro on an island just to get clamped up 😂

[@EatMoreHippo]

BP should have done something on the flyby, then could have passed to Kuminga (whose defender #25 is miles away from guarding the passing lane) when Luka was on the wrong side, then when he was on the correct side he could still have passed to Kuminga by creating space himself or throwing a slightly more complex pass, could have thrown the skip to Draymond on the opposite side (somewhat risky). The Warriors are literally the most movement heavy and pass heavy offense, dudes weren't standing there doing nothing, it's that BP was in the corner and had a brain fart. If Kuminga ran over to do handoff he'd be dragging a second defender further into the corner, making the situation even worse with 9 seconds on the clock. There's really no defending BP on this one, he's literally being clamped by Luka Doncic of all people.

[@hawthornedouglas]

It's not this type of game. It's the game where a teams combined for 75 missed 3s that's a problem.

[@CouchCit]

Thank you!

[@northernlight1000]

my biggest problem is the carrying, it's absurd i don't know why this does not upset more people

[@oskarlonnqvist7074]

It would be hilarious if suddenly they'd go back to like 1950's rules of dribbling where carressing the side of the ball at all would result in a carry!

[@maartenvz]

You've ever seen Patrick Ewing post up? Carrying is not something new.

[@tropicallife4449]

@@maartenvz not new, but far, far more common now (and never ever called) that the new generation of players incorporate carrying into their training and think they are superior ball handlers.

[@3xtasy777]

For those people complaining about 3s, don't watch if you don't appreciate the skills of these players.

[@0401412740]

If youre a post player and youre playing hard in the post for position and Stephen Curry drops 9 3s on you.... youre like wtf is going on. Cant stop him

[@Don92595]

Gs vs Dallas was probably game of the year. The NBA doesn’t have a 3 Point problem it has a “pass dribble drive, pass again dribble drive, pass shoot problem…

[@conehed1138]

Phil Jackson called it the "brokeback mountain" offense...

[@HugoTeixeira98]

Saying 3's are the reason that NBA ratings are low is the dumbest thing. It's an event with 2h30 where only 48min are playing time. Teams sometimes play 4 matches in one week, with 82 games season, even the players don't care that much about regular season games. If you loose there's really no problem, tomorrow there's another game. The competition aspect is at a all time low. Players are chasing bags instead of buckets. With 0 time to rest stars get injured and you loose even more interest. Plus there's no time for teams to practice, so there's no chemistry, no team plays and in the end you end up with isolation plays 50% of the possessions... it's nothing to do with 3's

[@Foundingfatherofthetrenches]

Just in time, needed some content while I wait for this nba cup final

[@anubis4032]

I just said that too i do Not want to listen to espn guys argue over nothing for 30 mins 😂😂

[@Casey_Truman]

The Dec. 13th Hornets vs. Bulls game is damning proof that too many 3s are being shot in the NBA currently. And it's just lazy basketball that is not fun to watch. There needs to be variety. 3s are great but they should not be more than half of the shots taken in a game. This Mavericks vs. Warriors game was obviously an anomaly because some of the best shooters ever played in it. Also, the foul baiting and soft foul calls are another reason people get frustrated watching. Lastly, it's the availability of games. There are so few games easily accessible to watch. Hopefully that changes next year with the new TV deals though.

[@cynkauvanyau2059]

The issue with the NBA is people FORGET how bad offense was back then. They FORGOT all the bad shots players took back then.

[@seancalhoun7752]

No one wants to watch 82+ games. Coupled with no cable…

[@spartansfor3v3r1]

@@seancalhoun7752speak for yourself we love basketball and will watch every game if possible

[@tamaszlav]

They FORGOT all the bad sbots, so it is OK to have millions of worse one. Logic.

[@CyNinjaNikka]

Literally first play showing no one trying to get open is a modern problem

[@carsonnik]

All the younger fans waxing nostalgic over the "good old days" of the 2000s don't remember that the post-MJ era had some of the lowest ratings in the league's modern history. Fans complained about bad offense, players chucking up bad mid-range shots, ballhogs over-dribbling and chucking up bad shots, the pace of play was slower, etc... Hardcore fans (fanatics) never take their rose-colored glasses off and think everything "back in the good old days" was amazing.

[@zinigang]

there are a lot of things that have been a factor to the nba not being as popular/ watchable as before 1. foul baiting (harden, embiid, etc...) 2. analytics (3pt shot is more "efficient" than 2's) 3. roster construction (having players/ personnel shoot 3's when they're not good to begin with) 4. the regional sports network(s) going away (the money/ revenue going away, as well as not being accessible to most ppl) those are just a few off the top of my head

[@arguseyed9982]

4:19 love how you indirectly point out that back court violation

[@shicrapt]

Who's complaining again about this game? I think the complaints are led by Barkley - we all know he hates any game involving the Warriors and the Lakers. He'd rather see ballhogs force acrobatic shots against 3 defenders while shooting barely over 40%, and lots of foul-baiting. That was always the motto back then - get to the free throw line. You're not a superstar if you're not averaging at least 10 free throws a game.

[@jambononi]

Just to be clear, if anyone at NBA is *paying* attention. I live in the UK and your streaming service is outrageously expensive. That's why I watch highlights on KZbin. That's it. That's the reason.

[@freeguy3751]

Yup. Agreed. The NBA app is so buggy too, hard to get a fluid feed

[@VynceMontgomery]

Coach, I suspect that people don't like he long game because they don't understand it yet. They know how to watch monster blocks and crazy dunks. But i think the real issue is deeper psychology than that. The result of the action is known sooner, making it easier to associate the cause with the dopamine hit. Anticipation builds for a big release, which is fun, but instant gratification is catchier. But as for "ruining the game" - what we're seeing now is almost certainly more like what Nesmith invented and intended. He never expected anyone to dunk, and I believe said he would have raised the hoop if he had known they would.

[@MavDon-qc9tc]

It’s impossible to watch that warriors mavs game and think it wasn’t entertaining. If you didn’t enjoy that game you never liked basketball in the first place 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@gogochannel1959]

I think it is not about a lot of threes, it is about too much games, that is, people will see every missed three next game. Is this the best basketball ever played? Probably yes.

[@adergas1]

In Euro Basket every game is on time. A 1min time out is 1min! The refs call a foul there is no 2-3 min stop, 30-60 sec and they go to the ff line. I dont get up anymore in the middle of the night to watch any game (not even my fav team) because there are more ads then game time. They are killing the game because of so many ads and cutting the flow.

[@alaboutbrain942]

Yes, they broke it. Missing shots is what everybody in the world can do. I can do that. Why would i want to watch that? Speed, skills, feetwork, passing, defense, top of the backboard. I want what seems magic to me.

[@deathitself6985]

Mavericks in general are way towards the bottom in shooting 3s despite having amazing shooters

[@chasmn84]

I want to know what would happen to spacing if you got rid of the corner 3. Instead of around the free throw line extended the three-point line bends to then touch the baseline what if it just was a consistent arc that that connected to the sidelines. That would all the sudden turn that corner from the best 3-point shot to the worst 2-point shot.

[@oskarlonnqvist7074]

That would mean though that the court would have to be much much larger to accomodate that arc! 🤔 Don't know what would be the effects of that, maybe less stepping out of bounds. And they'd still shoot a 3 from there, even if it's not a shorter distance as it was 'before'. 😅

[@chasmn84]

@oskarlonnqvist7074 no not larger. The arc would just end at about the free throw line extended as it runs into the sideline. It would not go all the way down to the baseline

[@oskarlonnqvist7074]

@@chasmn84 Oh, ok. Interesting idea! 💡

[@NewEarthSon]

This video is tone deaf..... I understand the "X'S AND O'S" point of this video but what people are talking about is that they hate what this game has turned into is that they want some aspects of the "old game" back such as back to the basket play, hand check etc not a 3 point chucking contest which this game presently rewards.... I believe to satisfy everyone, NBA should turn to FIBA/Olympic rules, court dimensions and 40 minute length. Mostly everyone enjoyed the 2024 summer Olympic basketball games because teams were not chucking it from deep thanks to the smaller court which is less space. KG said it had that "90s feeling". Also nba needs to change its format.... they play to many games! Less is more..... 38 games a year is good. NBA is also not assessable on tv like the 90s when it was on NBC also the playoff format should change and the nba should look to form a champions league/club world cup type tournament with the teams from leagues in europe and the rest of the world. IN ORDER TO HAVE A TRUE WORLD CHAMPION because Noah lyles is right... NBA champions are not world champions.... that means they should make the nba champion the team that wins the most games and promotion relegation should be implemented. The team that wins the most game plays in the champions league basketball version the next year and it starts out as group play than home and away until the final round.... Also get rid of the draft and get rid of salary caps. let the best players play on the same team like futbol does. You personally can like the way the game is being played but if the majority/considerable amount that like basketball that also give their attention and $$$ to the NBA decide to place it in another existing league ie Euroleague, or possibly a New ABA or just something else entirely, NBA will go out of Business if they do not want to listen to their customers/consumers My 2 cents.....

[@raraku1250]

for me, it's not really the number of 3-point shots but the bad (you are shooting under 30% and still jack it up) 3-point shooting!

[@johnb56565]

I think the best way the nba can address the amount of threes is by eliminating the corner 3 entirely by moving the arc completely to the out of bounds zone. This would allow defenses to play less zone and limit ball movement

[@javiermelloman]

How is the question framed curry and luka instead of curry and klay or curry and harden? U know the people who were there during the 3pt revolution? Tf

[@nicholaspu]

If dunks were 3pts the league would be wild

[@vine237]

Yeah but then the league would be optimized entirely for people 6’7” and over. The small, quick, clever, and creative guards we’ve loved watching for decades would have no place in the league. AI, Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Dame Lillard, Trae Young, etc are all amazing and no doubt they can dunk under the right conditions, but they can’t do it as consistently as Jarrett Allen or Clint Capela and sustain that over the course of a game, let alone a season. Long distance, high value shots are the big equalizer that still enables different types of players to be effective. The threat of a long shot is what spaces the floor and gives players room to dribble or cut. If dunks were equal to threes, we’d have games with 6 to 8 Ben Simmons-like players on the court at the same time, and no one wants to see that

[@dimelo58]

I think the offense has too much of an advantage right now with the way the game is called carrying and traveling calls are rare imo they should get rid of the defensive 3 seconds I think this would allow bigs to protect the basket causing more pressure on threes and on the ball, euro ball is a better tv product right now and I think It’s because the defense has an actual chance cause scoring is not as easy.

[@Topazmind]

When you spread the whole league games across multiple subscription networks you lose viewership. It’s a no brainer. They are money hungry and therefore are paying for it by no one watching the games. Or legally atleast

[@Logic-cg7qy]

Curry and GSW started it. But Boston is taking it to a new level that's borderline unwatchable

[@CBrown]

Its a conplex problem and my take on it is thus: The NBA changed the defensive rules so much that help defense is pretty much required to avoid the game being a layup line. The emphasis on offense (over defense) has also had the unfortunate side effects of most players not learning how and being outright bad at it. Because double-teams are required for even average players in the paint it leaves someone open and teams are designing their plays so that someone is usually on the 3-point line. As a result, its not just your Miller's, Allen's, Korver's, or Steph's shooting a ton of 3s, its every player who can meet the analytically good (but actually terrible) 33% mark, which is pretty much everyone. This is why a guy like Luka can be considered a "good" shooter and make 10 attempts per game despite being only 35% accurate. IMO, to fix this problem, the NBA has to change the rules in such a way that allows for defense to be played by the average guy the way offense is. Start calling traveling and carries, stop giving fouls for marginal or ghost contact, bring back hand checking.

[@RaulGroom]

It's kind of weird to me that stepback 3's have become the flash point for this debate. The reason the stepback 3 has proliferated is that it is actually a pretty good shot. Players who take lots of these shots tend to shoot better on these shots than they do other types of 3-point shots. It LOOKS like a bad shot to an old-school fan but the fact is these shots go in at a high rate and should be taken when they are available. One thing I would like to see Coach Nick or one of the other X-and-O influencers do is actually figure out which shots are the bad shots that high-volume, less efficient shooters are taking and perhaps how these shots come about in the offense. There is some reason Luka is only a marginal 3pt shooter by percentage and it isn't stepbacks, which he makes at a very good clip;

[@whoathereidoit]

I have a simple solution. Make all shots 2 point shots, only half court shots worth three points. Free throws still worth 1 point. I guarantee you teams won't be jacking up 50 threes a game.

[@corneroffice]

Solution here - quota the 3 pointer . 10 per half . After 10 a 3 is worth 2. This will make teams take them strategically and increase competition .

[@anubis4032]

THANK YOU for giving me something to watch while waiting for the game to start I cant sit and watch steven A and perk argue for 30 mins

[@bballbreakdown]

Yes!! 👍 🏀

[@frederickdelius1106]

Can we all just appreciate the game record for threes was broken with the splash brothers on different teams. No other way

[@timothyraemiranda7174]

how about making the court smaller.. fiba size.. maybe the defensive side will set a little faster

[@bballbreakdown]

That's interesting. These players are already so big, not sure how cluttered it would get on a smaller court

[@Fugax_8]

My issue with today’s NBA isn’t the explosion in 3-point shooting, it’s the constant interruption to games through fouls or timeouts. You can’t properly enjoy the flow of a game anymore. It doesn’t help that the regular season is way too long as well. There are way too many games and it just dilutes the quality of the league.

[@mrqidv]

Can you compare how the top 3 teams generate their 3-point shots? Specifically, analyze the role of passes made before the shot and the impact of play calls leading up to the 3-pointer. I think it will be good to add those into this video.

[@IYPITWL]

I mean the 3pt issue can be solved by extending the arc to the OOB line, but I think there's a lot of other problems with modern bball that need to addressed first.

[@jdkingzyke]

Not really try watching the Bulls or Hornets that should be the basis. This was an interesting game tbh. Once again this is just the NBA media trying to bury anything good that Luka does. You never hear something like this when its an American doing something special. The media would rather talk about Bronny than anything else.

[@markhousman8447]

Math works - the supremacy of the three is here to stay

[@buddah3437]

for me its 3 things 1. nba subscription is too much 2. game is boring 3. there no franchise players that are fun to watch

[@gokusupersaiyan3inreallife937]

honestly its just boring to watch. i miss watching player's doing moves like fadeaways, spin moves in the post, some step backs in the mid range. when curry arises many people was in awe to what he was doing because it was different back then like pulling from that far and doing combo dribbles to pulling up from 3? thats just amazing to watch. he's on the league of his own. and then you still got players who plays different. but now i feel like everybody is just like that it's all about 3 points there's no diversity. they all play the same. yeah the way they generate the 3s are great but not all (especially casuals) will see that or really appreciate that.

[@freeguy3751]

Truth. No more artists on the court except ja and kyrie

[@MavDon-qc9tc]

You guys need to rlly watch more games. There’s plenty of tough shot making in the league. I genuinely think guys just can’t access games that’s the biggest problem

[@gokusupersaiyan3inreallife937]

​@@MavDon-qc9tc im not talking about tough shot making. im talking about the lack of different styles of play. they all play similar. it's all about the 3 now, how to get it and how much to launch it. and it's becoming bland.

[@MavDon-qc9tc]

@@gokusupersaiyan3inreallife937 I disagree. Denver Miami Boston kings all play a different brand of basketball. Mavs play a different brand of ball. The warriors and pacers different. You guys need to give it a chance and trust me these games are usually always close and go the distance so it’s always exciting for the most part. The real problem is 90% of nba games are on premium cable or league pass where they black out local games. If nba games were always on free cable like nfl games they views would be up

[@thedeathstar738]

⁠​⁠@@MavDon-qc9tcthere are some exceptions like Jokic, but it’s just that, exceptions. The only “different brand” of basketball that the Mavs play than the Warriors is that they are an iso-heavy team, but the result is the same: more threes, more layups/dunks. It is the same play-style of trying to get some defender to make a mistake and then collapsing the defense. You don’t have Kobe isoing, Dirk’s patented fadeaway, Jordan and the Bull’s Triangle offense, 80s Celtics and Lakers. You even had fast-paced teams like the Nuggets back then. My favorite player is Steph Curry because what he did was awe-inspiring, but not everyone is Steph Curry. The NBA needs to remove the Defensive 3 second violation, remove the 5 second back-to-the-basket violation, extend the 3 point line on all areas of the court to 24-25 feet and widen the court with that. The refs also need to do their jobs: call carry’s and travels more often, call the illegal screen more often, and call shooting fouls less often and stop calling foul-baiting with that.

[@blastu99]

Idk about this idea but if people are complaining about the 3 pointers then get rid of it, anything you make in play will count for 2 and free throws are 1, this way it doesn't matter if you score from further out or score in the in the lane I play volleyball so every point be worth 1 point, regardless of dump, spike or tip

[@dewaldomusic]

The problem is the relative value of a 3 point shot is too large compared to a 2 pointer. They should switch the 3 to a 4 and the 2 to a 3 to reduce the difference.

[@LOLFLUSHDRAW]

did brother just say deep discharges in my nba youtube

[@bballbreakdown]

Thx for watching!! 😅😂

[@anthonywong2308]

Rate of viewership declined due to many YT channels released 10 mins FGM highlights , which save a lot of time on the couch with a match.

[@KickFitHQ]

This game was 1 every 5 years and it had the 3 point shooters in NBA history, thats why it was so special. 99% of the rest of the time is just a waste of time watching today's NBA divas pretending to be professional basketball players.

[@JakeJohanson12]

I think the main factors are, TV accessibility, 3pt Shot selection, & intensity. TV thing is self explanatory. 3pt shot selection can be horrific sometimes. I have no problem with 3s. College and High level HS games are intense, and the players excude a lot of effort. NBA players play hard as well. But you can’t see the intensity difference between even the NBA cup games and regular season games. The players could turn it up a little more. But that’s gets into the length of season debate.

[@edwinbleau5334]

I think a big reason the ratings are down is because people are watching illegal streams. Its beyond easy to find them. I would say that at 25% of people, watch it that way. At least.

[@songerph]

The decline of ratings is because watching NBA has become too expensive. NOT 3 points duh

[@thexalon]

Long-distance shooting has always been part of the game. If you want less of it, you have to figure out a good defense against it.

[@dobz746]

The NBA should have a 3pt shot limit by ever quarter like around 10. If the team shoots over 10 already... any 3-point shot after will only count as 2 pts. And another one is when a player has a dunk it will have an extra free throw. And if an attempted dunk gets fouled... it will have 3 FTs.

[@jank85]

I think people are just generally more aware of marxism and how NBA is not national, but just private colportage that's extremelly unimportant

[@T1Oracle]

The NBA is too expensive to watch and games air at the worst possible times. To add insult to injury, no matter how much you pay for it, you still have to watch ads. Meanwhile for $16/mo you can watch endless hours of entertainment, add free, from the comfort of your couch. Who has time for the NBA?

[@allen8847]

Luka mentioned in the same breath with curry? Wow!!! The USA media needs to promote Luka more often

[@andrewdorie]

One issue I have with the argument that this fast-paced three-point shooting style of basketball is superior to more structured, patiently paced styles is there’s no baseline in that argument for that comparison. Comparing it to 90s basketball, for example, isn’t a proper comparison. Players were different obviously, but also condition differently as well. Sure someone like Steph Curry has performed historically well with his NBA career while playing rez ball, but who knows if he would’ve won three or four more titles if he were playing in a different system that still allowed him to stretch the floor (and celebrate himself by himself every time he does something good).

[@spce956]

Its not the 3pts. shots. It's the phantom foul calls [point shaving/sports gambling]---more importantly DEFENSE HAS BEEN BANNED

[@MrMathsimon]

Problem is games are not available anywhere. They are partitioning it now to different providers.

[@Hoemai]

Problem for me with this era are rules and how refs are / n't enforcing them.

[@hawksballer10]

Love this video! Your spot on coach Nick

[@bballbreakdown]

Thx so much!

[@bb1111116]

Bring back handchecking and 3 point efficiency would quickly go down. In the Warriors game against Houston on 12/11, the refs allowed handchecking, and the score was Houston 91, GS 90. The NBA could allow handchecking in every game, but they don’t want to make the most popular player worldwide, Steph Curry, look bad.

[@andylee3810]

Remember the 3 pointer Curry made after kobe hand-checking him all the way from backcourt? Hand-checking is overrated. If you hand-check all 5 players on the court who can shoot 3s, you are giving up so much space for drives and cuts to the basket for an easy 2

[@bb1111116]

​@@andylee3810 ; one shot does not = the average per game over a season. Let’s see what happens if handchecking is allowed again in every game. When the refs have allowed handchecking against GS, Kerr has complained every time.

[@andylee3810]

@@bb1111116 the fact that curry shook off kobe so effortlessly with a simple crossover to get a little space for a 3 tells me the argument that hand-checking will stop players from the 3 point line is invalid. And it might surprise you that hand-checking is still in the game. But the offense has just become so good that in nearly every possession teams are able to create space for an open shot, unlike the stagnant offense in the 90s and 00s

[@bb1111116]

​@@andylee3810 ; there is an NBA rule which does not allow handchecking. It is just that the refs do not enforce that rule sometimes. I understand you believe that one shot determines everything in basketball history but I don’t. - One reason is because the removal of handchecking came in the 2004/2005 season while Steph started his NBA career in 2009/2010. Steph never had to deal with a whole season of handchecking. What you do not understand is what handchecking did to players and how the removal of handchecking changed the NBA after 2004/2005. This is shown by season averages year by year. As for offenses, every system we see today had a similar system in the 90s including the triangle, small ball, the fast break as well as pick and roll. The major difference came in the mid 2000s when handchecking was removed which changed the NBA game to what it eventually became.

[@andylee3810]

@@bb1111116 the impact of removing the hand-checking rule really isn’t that much. First, it is rarely called when used in games. Second, Many offensive plays today revolve around off-ball. The basketball IQ and passing ability of big men like Draymond, Jokic, Sabonis allows guards like curry to play off-ball. Also, the more often use of off-ball screens diminishes the ability of a defender to constantly stay with the same offensive player. It has become nearly impossible to hand-check a player throughout the 24 seconds when switches, going through screens and chasing off-ball players are necessary. During those split seconds when hand-checking is off, the offensive player will have an easy opportunity to make a play

[@Bxnzoj]

No one talks about how easy rules make it to get open 3s taking 2s just isn’t as efficient and if it was teams would rely on mid range more

[@malcolmpuhawan3695]

Don't most 3pt shooters have their spots (except for the super elite like Steph and the like)? Deny them their spots, like what was being done in the NBA in previous eras...because players are too skilled now that even a contested 3 will still be made if on their spot already. How did they try to limit players like Reggie Miller, Mitch Richmond, Glen Rice, Ray Allen, Chris Mullin, Detlef Shrempf, etc? They tried to deny them their spots on the arc forcing them to pass or take a diff shot....that's why Ray Allen and Reggie Miller (adopted by Rip Hamilton and Steph Curry) had to keep moving from one spot on the arc to the next to just to shoot a 3. Maybe it's not the offense, but the defense and the lax referee calls that's the problem? Multi-step back travel 3's allowed? Moving illegal screens allowed? And calls not allowing defensive players to get even a bit physical to fight against screens? I think the mid 90's to the 2010's were a good balance. There were elite 3 snipers, there were superstars who could do everything including shoot 3's, but you could see some physical defense being played by the majority...even by the stars themselves (like AI, Kobe, TMac, Reggie Miller, Mitch Richmond, Rip Hamilton, Rasheed Wallace, Glen Robinson, Baron Davis, Gilbert Arenas, Gary Payton, etc. It's really not that interesting when a player is driving to the lane...and instead of going for an aggressive or acrobatic shot, the ball geys kicked out to a guy standing on the arc for the last 5 seconds...and what was his man doing? Also standing infront of him for the last 5 secs. Deny him that pass but also try to deny him the cutting lane. Basketball ain't basketball when there's hardly any defense. It's just a shoot around or a 3pt contest, not a ball game

[@girinandhan1372]

Three point shooting isn't the problem. Off the dribble contested three pointers taken by role players is a real momentum/ mood killer for me. Addition to that, games never start on time, each time-out feels like forever and within one half time I feel like I can watch two whole FIBA games.

[@pricetopay5152]

I just dont prefer the more efficient 3 heavy style of basketball. I used to enjoy the players using physical style of players driving to a crowded rim. Or the one-one post battles. Idk the change to analytics makes sense its just a worse overall product

[@MagCynic]

Consider this: Are Michael Jordan highlights more or less exciting than Stephen Curry highlights?

[@SeanRoland-r1q]

I’ll be honest; I am looking forward more to watching CC play than any NBA game.

[@geekUSA101]

The gather step is an embarrassment too. We all know it’s traveling, the players blatantly push off all the time too and the refs never call it

[@hugolizard]

We get 3s are worth more than 2s and mathematically it is almost always a good shot given today’s the shooting skills. But fans aren’t interested to watch teams having a three point shoot outs every game.

[@RobRichman]

One reason, I believe viewership is down is because of all the other basketball that's out there: OTE, FIBA, FIBA 3x3, The Big 3, Ballislife, as well as televised high school and college games.

[@Hoopsystembball]

You didn't use a good example. This game was one of those rare one where the 3's were falling. And there's about 5-6 teams - out of 30 - that can replicate that kind of shooting. The majority of games don't look like that. This game does not reflect what happens on a nightly basis

[@ralo1558]

Defense, Hand checking, and Teams don't care about regular season games

[@freeguy3751]

Switching defenses make it difficult to get that exciting superstar guarding superstar matchup. The superstar rarely if ever defends the other teams' best player.

[@nitrofast16]

Going from Olympics to nba season you can definitely see the difference.

[@jeffreymelton2200]

Awesome video. Greats points. But the NBA still shoots too many 3's

[@nmond014]

I think ratings are low because who under 30 has TV services in their house. Us young fans aren’t tech illiterate and relise that if the option is pay to get TV broadcasts, pay for the expensive league pass or google something and click off 2 pop-ups and boom free game. Kinda easy choice if you ask me.

[@the_stewbear]

My issue isn’t directly with the NBA as these players are skilled enough to play this style. My concern is more at the developmental level of basketball players that are now just “highlight chasers”. They don’t understand that there are idiosyncrasies that cause many of the good looks. They also try to mimic the play style of NBA players (like many kids do) but don’t realize that the MS and HS level still greatly depends on the mid-range/floater to open up scoring opportunities.

[@bpdmf2798]

I hear that it's too many threes all around, but the score was a total of 249 points with 7 mints left in the 4th. That sounds like effective basketball to me. Maybe it's time to eliminate the corner 3 entirely and move the arc back to 28 feet and have the arc end at the sideline with no corner threes. That'll drop 3pt attempts to like 10 per game and we can finally watch legit interior basketball where players go at each other instead of just watching shots from 3 with a weak contest and possible flagrant foul for strong under their feet on the landing.

[@rohinas.t.3810]

This is why nobody plays defense and they can play minutes because nobody runs

[@MKbasket]

When Luka scored 70 points - a disaster (not wow) and there is no defence - must change NBA rules. When Luka scores (finally) some threes - a disaster (not wow) and threes are distroyong basketball - must change NBA rules. Do you see how ESPN are hating LUKA? Ridiculous how one guy from Europe will change NBA rules .... While people do not watch as ESPN haters talk BS !

[@derekchatman2595]

I love the three but there are just too many of them. Even if they make 80% of them. It’s taking away from the game. It reminds me of the late 90’s when they said there are WAY to many dunks and not enough shooting. Gotta love the irony.

[@Mr.Zen_73]

It’s not only teams jacking up a lot of 3s, there’s just too many meaningless games with stars load managing or not caring enough about the result, something that never happens in nfl unless teams are actively tanking. Some of the biggest stars don’t even bother playing any defence as well - Luka , LeBron, Harden etc as a fan it’s hard to want to pay money to watch

[@toppseasonszn2342]

The 3pt shot is the best shot in basket all if you have aters who can make them, but the chicago bulls shooting over 50 3 poonters is just crazy , teams need to ay to THEIR strenghts like OKC

[@Riqharris]

It’s been the same problems for a while now. I think the stars missing games was the icing on the cake

[@KingMcGruder11]

9:29 The problem isn’t always the way the3’s are created or if they are “good” looks or not. I think the real issue is the saying my coach use to say “Your open for a reason” there’s certain guys that can get hot from deep or can shoot and “get hot” let’s those guys shoot! But NOT EVERYONE should be GREEN 💡 FOR 3’s That’s the real issue. Even though guys have their percentages, most are only Because of the amount of attempts taken Guys Like Kyle Korver or Grayson Allen guys like that etc. shoot the ball green light no matter what guys like rui hacumora or kumminga like no them dudes not SHOOTERS! Sure they CAN SHOOT! But they not SHOOTERS! Only SHOOTERS! Should be given this privilege that’s the problem

[@jordandiaz7605]

well i believe it’s because if you want to watch the nba legally you need to have a ton of subscriptions and pay a ton of money, rather than just 1.

[@rigorcabanado8092]

Give 1 extra point whenever the defensive team convert off a missed three point attempt.

[@RaveKingZheljo3]

Send this to the hoop collective guys, great job again Coach

[@nicholaspu]

Dunks should be 3 pts