BBC permitted by law to lie online? Well yeah, kinda...

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Art of Law

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@tednash7210
@tednash7210 3 ай бұрын
One would have thought news outlets, like the BBC for example, should be the very folks subjected to this law!
@DavidJohnson-yg8qm
@DavidJohnson-yg8qm 2 ай бұрын
Well they are but they get away with it.
@G58
@G58 2 ай бұрын
I suspect that it could possibly be considered that what you just wrote could possibly, under certain circumstances, be considered misleading. But I need to go away and think about it to try to figure out how, why and by whom. In reality of course, if the BBC’s primary role was indeed to inform the public with objective facts, and not an Orwellian propaganda arm of the central office of information and the intelligence agencies, then we wouldn’t need to be not having this conversation, or draping it in the frivolities of mirth, and satire…?👀🙄🧐😜
@oldplucker1
@oldplucker1 2 ай бұрын
@@tednash7210 BBC news has no credibility the same with all the Legacy Media. The news you hear is not worth the paper it is written on. I watch GB news but realise that even that is censored. Find true news online and stop listening to the legacy media. Liars are not listened to because no one can tell if it is true or not.
@SallyAnn-y8p
@SallyAnn-y8p 27 күн бұрын
@@G58well said my lover
@lesbutler5458
@lesbutler5458 3 ай бұрын
Weapons of mass destruction, anyone?
@composedlight6850
@composedlight6850 2 ай бұрын
Agree was that not false and near all kne it at the time -- except for Tony Blair.
@SallyAnn-y8p
@SallyAnn-y8p 25 күн бұрын
@@lesbutler5458 we all know what happens if you call them out for lying on that score
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 ай бұрын
"know to be false" will be taken as "the TV told you it was false, so, therefore, you knew it was false."
@samuelpotts-m5j
@samuelpotts-m5j 3 ай бұрын
I feel like a lot of KZbinrs (including yourself) provide more accurate, more detailed, and better researched information than most news agencies, and yet they can be despised by the so-called professional journalists who write articles that could be readily classified as gossip and old-wives tales.
@asumazilla
@asumazilla 3 ай бұрын
Different incentives make all the difference.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 2 ай бұрын
An actual lawyer gives more accurate descriptions of the law than a non-lawyer? :shocked-Pikachu:
@joelhall5124
@joelhall5124 3 ай бұрын
Well, that piece of legislation sounds... Vague and broad and not at all like something that could be abused for political purposes...
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
Not on your Nellie!
@nicolaturner1264
@nicolaturner1264 3 ай бұрын
:)
@nicolaturner1264
@nicolaturner1264 3 ай бұрын
Meant to laugh.
@tomkent4656
@tomkent4656 2 ай бұрын
As it is being!
@JK-hf2cx
@JK-hf2cx 3 ай бұрын
The police will select whom they investigate, as per usual.
@SmileyEmoji42
@SmileyEmoji42 3 ай бұрын
How else could it work?
@somalilandrecognition5413
@somalilandrecognition5413 3 ай бұрын
Not as in two-tier policing but as in the general case of police exercising their knowledge and expertise on a case by case basis?
@lesigh1749
@lesigh1749 3 ай бұрын
@@somalilandrecognition5413 LOL, yes, that's obviously why they behave as they do. There's no doubt about it.
@SamLowryDZ-015
@SamLowryDZ-015 3 ай бұрын
Conspiracy theories are not helpful to anyone except those who love conspiracy theories.
@EdwardLindon
@EdwardLindon 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps they should roll dice?
@key948
@key948 3 ай бұрын
Could this be applied to Tony Blair with the weapons of mass destruction lie in Iraq?
@asumazilla
@asumazilla 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn't treason laws apply?
@BaalsMistress
@BaalsMistress 3 ай бұрын
Nope, the law was only just passed, Blair said that decades ago.
@dougmarkham
@dougmarkham 3 ай бұрын
Definitely a thorny experience trying to explain this
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
Ha!
@The1brennana
@The1brennana 2 ай бұрын
When a member of the public gets the facts wrong, they go to jail. When the BBC does it (i.e. when found out), they simply submit an aplology.
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 2 ай бұрын
This was written by the Tories. They had to include an exemption like this because their client media lie on their behalf continuously. They would never have passed the law if it required their media to tell the truth on pain of prosecution
@RonSeymour1
@RonSeymour1 3 ай бұрын
One day you are going to suddenly disappear down a hole. You add a great touch of comedy to serious subjects.
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
Mmm?
@RonSeymour1
@RonSeymour1 3 ай бұрын
@@victorsauvage1890 I was referring to the fact that walking through an overgrown mining area with a selfie stick ran the risk of him disappearing down a shaft. Having said that, I love his style and unique views.
@JohnSmith-vy4lh
@JohnSmith-vy4lh 3 ай бұрын
The bbc have always been a disinformation organisation,, that is there main purpose. The mislead the public on a daily basis.
@Isochest
@Isochest 3 ай бұрын
​@@RonSeymour1 It looks like dodgy terrain as Alan will be well aware of.
@gamerlest509
@gamerlest509 3 ай бұрын
I love your non stuffy approach to your videos, nice simple language with no blowing smoke up your own arse all the time
@nicholaspostlethwaite9554
@nicholaspostlethwaite9554 3 ай бұрын
Some party needs to adopt a policy of giving us the same rights to free expression as a minimum that the USA has. As we are degenerating into a Tyranny.
@EdwardLindon
@EdwardLindon 2 ай бұрын
Great, so then we can have hate speech galore. What a fantastic result.
@DaibhidhBhoAlba
@DaibhidhBhoAlba 3 ай бұрын
The Online Safety Act is framed and worded so poorly. I've worked with legislation for decades now, and the quality of the drafting is rapidly going down hill.
@timballam3675
@timballam3675 3 ай бұрын
@@DaibhidhBhoAlba anything technology based has generally been a clusterfuck, just look at mobile phone legislation...
@dvs21a
@dvs21a 3 ай бұрын
@timballam3675 The drafters and legislators don't understand the technologies they are seeking to write legislation about.
@michaelpalmer4387
@michaelpalmer4387 3 ай бұрын
I've followed people (e.g. lawyers) on X who've lived & breathed the OSA for the last few years. Some think it's one of the worst drafted laws they've seen.
@Berry-fr5wj
@Berry-fr5wj 3 ай бұрын
worded poorly to cast the net wide , everything therefore could be construed as an on line crime
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
Crocodile tears.
@Calvi36
@Calvi36 3 ай бұрын
Welcome back to 1984, thanks for the video Al.
@smudge0161
@smudge0161 3 ай бұрын
Everyone has a different opinion. Unfortunately, this legislation is trying to say if your opinion doesn't match the establishment then you are a criminal. Very dangerous.
@jfryer485
@jfryer485 2 ай бұрын
So saying something by an ordiary person that is a LIE will be realised by most INTELLIGENT people. So where is the issue. But governments telling us multiple Covid vaccines are safe goes against research and Nobel Prize winner of 1913. Just withdrawing for example one or more of the vaccines late in the day. And not being interested in over 30 million excess deaths worldwide is hardly MINOR?
@adrianthoroughgood1191
@adrianthoroughgood1191 2 ай бұрын
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts. "I think immigrants don't integrate well into society " is an opinion. "the Southport killer was an illegal immigrant" is a false statement. As he says in the video, you have to know what you are saying is false. If it's your sincerely held opinion and you state it as an opinion, not as a claim on fact, then by definition you can't know it's false.
@jfryer485
@jfryer485 2 ай бұрын
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Exactly, the level of thought, intellect and even ability to write properly is the issue with some comments on both sides. Unless you study any issue then you are likely to make serious errors of fact. The key is that a free interchange is HEALTHY and permits others to sift out what is involved, what is correct and false and even for critical people to move forward and maybe change their views over time. And of course any generalisation is bound to be doomed whatever the facts. While talking of individuals is normally not sensible.
@Book-Mark
@Book-Mark 2 ай бұрын
Indeed.
@EdwardLindon
@EdwardLindon 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, no it's not. Don't incite riots.
@navynuke671
@navynuke671 3 ай бұрын
In the US, such a statute would be held void for vagueness since an ordinary person would not understand what a "non-trivial harm" to be.
@JohnSmith-vy4lh
@JohnSmith-vy4lh 3 ай бұрын
Corrupt subversive Marxist legislation. These slimy subversive politicians know that the bbc and other disinformation broadcasters will fall foul of this subversive legislation , so they made them exempt. This is two tier Marxism in full view.
@BionicRusty
@BionicRusty 3 ай бұрын
That’s a great point and makes perfect sense.
@EdwardLindon
@EdwardLindon 2 ай бұрын
Your average American can't tell the difference between losing your place in line and losing your life?
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 3 ай бұрын
What's the rationale for allowing recognized news organizations to make knowingly false statements with the intent of causing nontrivial physical or psychological harm? That makes no sense at all.
@SmileyEmoji42
@SmileyEmoji42 3 ай бұрын
He did explain that intent does not have its usual meaning
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 3 ай бұрын
@@SmileyEmoji42 It has its usual meaning in law. It still makes no sense to me that recognized news organizations are permitted to make knowingly false statements, knowing that a likely consequence of those statements is nontrivial physical or psychological harm.
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
What do you suppose?
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 3 ай бұрын
Just look at who owns (or controls) the news media for a possible explanation.
@oldplucker1
@oldplucker1 2 ай бұрын
Just turn off the broadcast TV and Radio News and make sure the news you get matches reality.
@alangknowles
@alangknowles 3 ай бұрын
Wirral Council has for some years cut back on verge trimming as part of (saving money) encouraging wild flowers for butterflies and bees. But all that has grown is giant hogweed, Japanese knotweed and ragwort in ever greater numbers each year.
@terryboland3816
@terryboland3816 3 ай бұрын
@alangknowles It's exactly that sort of harmful misinformation that this new legislation targets.
@alangknowles
@alangknowles 3 ай бұрын
@@terryboland3816 It's true.
@maryh4650
@maryh4650 3 ай бұрын
We are losing sight in places of our sign posts and roads signs thanks to cut backs ( er. Eco friendly behaviour) in our neck of the woods.
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 3 ай бұрын
@@alangknowles From what has been said about this legislation truth will not be a defence 😎😎🤣🤣
@CaSh-H
@CaSh-H 3 ай бұрын
Just stay away from the cliff edges please 🧍🏻‍♂️
@JelMain
@JelMain 3 ай бұрын
Or Antisocial Media, for that matter. Mind you, as a NeuroDiverse individual, that's a constant.
@CaSh-H
@CaSh-H 3 ай бұрын
“Oh no I’ve lost my hat” re enacting Jurassic Park👨🏼‍🌾🦖
@patentlyrubbish
@patentlyrubbish 3 ай бұрын
Come for the interesting legal commentary, stay to see if he falls off a cliff… 😳
@tonypriest3567
@tonypriest3567 2 ай бұрын
Harry Webb slope
@ianlaw6410
@ianlaw6410 3 ай бұрын
I'm beginning to think that Dan may be trying to eliminate his competition...has he recommended the clifftop walks and nettle-strewn paths? Oops, am I now guilty of spreading false information?
@artmedialaw
@artmedialaw 3 ай бұрын
Come to think of it, Dan did get me the camera and recommend I do walk and talks!
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk
@ProudCanadian-vv6bk 3 ай бұрын
​@@artmedialaw Keep your friends close...😅
@ianlaw6410
@ianlaw6410 3 ай бұрын
@@artmedialaw I rest my case...
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
As Falstaff puts it, “There you come near me, Hal” or as RL Stevenson puts it, “Alexander is touched in a very delicate place by the ‘disregard’ of Diogenes”, (‘An Apology for Idlers’).
@JohnSmith-vy4lh
@JohnSmith-vy4lh 3 ай бұрын
@@artmedialaw Looking at the evidence against nurse Letby,. I am not totally satisfied that she received justice. There is no solid evidence against her. Her defence team let her down badly. I can see her getting a pardon in the future, but these things take years.
@andrewbrian7659
@andrewbrian7659 3 ай бұрын
It seems strange that broadcasters are specificly exempt when the law is something they knew to be a lie. I'd understand it if the standard was recklessness about the truth of the matter but that's a weird policy decision. How do you even prove that someone knows a thing to be false in this context? Presumably actual knowledge is more than rumour, but how certain do you have to be? Is a genuine belief that you are more likely than not to be correct enough, or would the court take the position of "a reasonable person in your position with the knowledge you had would have reasonably doubted the veracity of your statement?"
@Zantorc
@Zantorc 3 ай бұрын
Many people no longer trust mainstream media after discovering how they misrepresent facts.
@davidioanhedges
@davidioanhedges 3 ай бұрын
Broadcasters are exempt because they would be under investigation continuously if not, but they are regulated so it's not a licence to lie
@andrewbrian7659
@andrewbrian7659 3 ай бұрын
@@davidioanhedges but that means that private prosecutions cannot be brought and to obtain justice, you must rely on the regulator to apply civil sanctions. I understand where you are coming from about constant unmerittorious investigations, but that's true of offences like this anyway.
@davidioanhedges
@davidioanhedges 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewbrian7659 The broadcasters are all licenced and regulated - so they can theoretically be punished etc .. Ofcom seems a little toothless The ones that worry me are the papers, who get the same getout, but are unregulated
@EdwardLindon
@EdwardLindon 2 ай бұрын
No, it's not strange at all, because there are other avenues for disciplining broadcasters. This law is specifically aimed at individuals.
@USALibertarian
@USALibertarian 3 ай бұрын
So no more fiction books or movies.
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 3 ай бұрын
it is going to be rife over the next few years
@davidrobertson5700
@davidrobertson5700 3 ай бұрын
Al, thank you. Wish bbb could have your humour. Please mind the drops. We need you and you are in our hearts. P.s You have a unique kind style Dave
@LeeEnfield-iw3qk
@LeeEnfield-iw3qk 3 ай бұрын
`Hope not Hate` did this the other day, caused a lot of racial tension and some violence.
@carltaylor6452
@carltaylor6452 3 ай бұрын
I imagine HnH are de facto exempt, just like the BBC.
@sheilawallen
@sheilawallen 3 ай бұрын
Nick Lowles is sponsored as a charity, which is his get out of jail free card when he posts his opinions. I am not sure if his underhand activities in the documentary "Hope not Hate", would be considered legal despite this law.
@asumazilla
@asumazilla 3 ай бұрын
​@@sheilawallenSometimes they're a charity and sometimes a limited company with the same name, so they could be prosecuted.
@martinkeats4429
@martinkeats4429 3 ай бұрын
Factual Inexactitudes, what a wonderful topic! Anybody except the “Establishment” is not allowed to say anything whether it is correct or not.
@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347
@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347 3 ай бұрын
bingo!
@tonypriest3567
@tonypriest3567 2 ай бұрын
Another reason to chuck your TV out of the nearest window and by a monitor and a subscription to Noddy goes to toy land
@sandihill669
@sandihill669 2 ай бұрын
Liked the content. Couldn't stop laughing though at it, 🤩 because it reminded me of that Billy Connolly sketch going over the bridge in Dunfermline (I think) in a snowstorm and quoting poetry! He was fighting against the wind rather than stinging nettles though😇
@TheSadButMadLad
@TheSadButMadLad 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like section 179 is criminalising slander. Slander is saying false things about someone else but it's a civil matter to sort out. Since slander includes saying it to many which implies broadcasting via some electronic means (it is 2024) then section 179 now makes it a criminal offence. So is slander now prosecuted by the state or does it stay a civil matter?
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
A thousand thanks! The wisdom of Plato! Exposing the sham of the ‘well meaning’ McCarthyist witch burner! More power to you!
@MRW515
@MRW515 2 ай бұрын
The brambles and nettles are growing like crazy, long trousers and a stick are a must when walking down lanes this time of year.
@stephenboyd4934
@stephenboyd4934 3 ай бұрын
Misinformation has too be proven as such, not suggesting it is without evidence
@stephenthorpe3591
@stephenthorpe3591 3 ай бұрын
The main problem with laws like this one is that they work well enough in obvious cases, but the boundaries are entirely vague, so they give a lot of leeway, not only for getting off the charge, but for the authorities to use the law against anyone that they don't like. An obvious example of how this law should be used is if someone posted online that the recent knife attacker was Muslim. Unless they can come up with a very convincing excuse for having genuinely thought that to be true, then they should justifiably be convicted under this law. That is an easy case. However, even then, the attacker was a (second generation) immigrant, so someone could post that true fact online ("the attacker was of migrant origin") and still get the desired result of stirring up violence against migrants (including Muslims). They could even say "The attacker is of migrant origin, just like Muslims are". No misinformation there! So, I think people need to word things very carefully and the most dangerous far right ring leaders probably are intelligent enough to be able to do that, so the law may not be effective against the worst offenders, catching out only the dumb low level street thugs. Someone could also post something like "the government has not convincingly denied that the attacker was Muslim". How would that stand up? The key word is "convincingly". If challenged, they could say "well it didn't convince me or my friends". Would a judge have to make a judgement call on whether that was spreading misinformation or not? I guess that the point I'm trying to make is that, sure, people can spread malicious lies online, but they can also spread malicious truths, the latter not coming under the remit of this law. I guess there are laws embargoing certain truths, which may help in cases like this, but every vague law gives the government leeway to try to shut down debate on unpopular policies, for fear of legal repercussions. Oh well, I guess it is still better than some countries in which if you criticise government policy loud enough you end up dead or in prison without trial!
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@georgesdelatour
@georgesdelatour 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely do not wish to stir up trouble over this, but I’d like to point out that we don’t know whether the suspect in the Southport case is a Muslim or not. He almost certainly wasn’t born Muslim, but people do convert - especially people who feel lost. Unlike Judaism and Hinduism, Islam is a proselytising religion. The two men who murdered Lee Rigby were both born into Nigerian Christian families, but both later converted to Islam and were then radicalised. For the avoidance of doubt, most people who convert outside the prison system do so because they marry a Muslim, and most are entirely peaceful.
@stephenthorpe3591
@stephenthorpe3591 3 ай бұрын
@@georgesdelatour Another thing to consider is that being 17, Axel is surely still the responsibility of his parents, but I don’t see any information on their political views.
@georgesdelatour
@georgesdelatour 3 ай бұрын
@@stephenthorpe3591 Starmer thinks he's old enough to vote.
@stephenthorpe3591
@stephenthorpe3591 3 ай бұрын
@@georgesdelatour Yes, but it is more about the potential role that the parents may have had in influencing Axel's views
@markrobinson1458
@markrobinson1458 3 ай бұрын
It's very difficult to establish whats harmful or false these days.
@firstname4337
@firstname4337 Ай бұрын
if politicians and the government cannot be held responsible then nobody should be
@MartinParnham
@MartinParnham 2 ай бұрын
Fellow ramblist here, I've been in that situation thinking "yeah, that route looks fine" only to get halfway round and wish I'd recced it!
@artmedialaw
@artmedialaw 2 ай бұрын
I'd been down there quite recently. But apparently nobody else had. Amazing how quick the foliage grows back in.
@BrianPW1
@BrianPW1 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your ramble highlighting some interesting views in the countryside equally to the great 'legal' explanations relating to current/unfolding events, many thanks. I will tweet this video.
@cloudsingh3147
@cloudsingh3147 3 ай бұрын
Good evening to you. Another delightful video. I am looking forward to the possible updates as those things get tested over time. Nice to find a place that says telling porkies is bad! Gorgeous scenery again, as always. Thank you. 😊.
@martyndawson7484
@martyndawson7484 3 ай бұрын
Those brambles should now have a few blackberries on! I, too have noticed the spread of ragwort. There's loads of it on the western M62, once you get past the moors. It is even trying to make its way into Yorkshire!
@VarmilMorr
@VarmilMorr 3 ай бұрын
Ohh. There's a lot of people "wandering with machetes" up in London. Don't think they want to clear any overgrown bushes tho
@ShinyHelmet
@ShinyHelmet 3 ай бұрын
How refreshing. A lovely setting for a video, and not one moment begging for a like or subscription, nor any unwanted 'sponsor' spots. Other youtube barristers take note! (Btw, I've given you a like and subscribed lol) 😆
@artmedialaw
@artmedialaw 3 ай бұрын
In fairness I do try to do the like and subscribe thing but I keep forgetting :-)
@ShinyHelmet
@ShinyHelmet 3 ай бұрын
@@artmedialaw Haha, keep on keeping on forgetting! 😆
@Faith_Jesus_Christ
@Faith_Jesus_Christ 3 ай бұрын
@@artmedialaw 😂 I enjoy these walks and chats. Thank you
@linmorell1813
@linmorell1813 3 ай бұрын
Interesting content with intermittent Ouches, lost hats and engine sheds! Then sort of illegal ragwort.
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
Ha! A regular Huckleberry Finn - We all came down in the last shower.
@TheSubHunter1
@TheSubHunter1 3 ай бұрын
There’s a few people I could mention that do this specifically in the area of defence information (usually surrounding frigates and trident) especially when there’s info publicly available
@tomkent4656
@tomkent4656 2 ай бұрын
Let's not beat around the bush. As worded, this is bad law!
@asumazilla
@asumazilla 3 ай бұрын
Oh, did they forget to except MPs?
@m3gthraeryn
@m3gthraeryn 3 ай бұрын
Hi Al! Nice PoleArm Academy shirt! Prefer your other ones thou. 👕 lovely scenery today. And could listen to you all day! 👍
@artmedialaw
@artmedialaw 3 ай бұрын
I put that on so the mic cable wouldn't get tangled in the undergrowth. It didn't work.
@eddier9455
@eddier9455 3 ай бұрын
Enjoyable video. More of these walks.
@XXXX-yc6wv
@XXXX-yc6wv 2 ай бұрын
"Misinformation" and "non-trivial harm" are terms wildly open to political interpretation.
@lewisbrand
@lewisbrand 3 ай бұрын
The problem with that defence is that the authorities do not have a recognised accreditation system for journalists outside of certain well known organisations. I think they should, Discuss
@_Mentat
@_Mentat 3 ай бұрын
I disagree. Citizens can be journalists and should have no more and no fewer rights than mass media organisations. Either everyone is covered by the law or no-one. Anything else negates equality before the law.
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
@@_MentatWhat specifically will you yourself do to rectify this situation?
@_Mentat
@_Mentat 3 ай бұрын
@@victorsauvage1890 Vote for a different government.
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 3 ай бұрын
@@_Mentat That would work if the citizen journalists (I'm thinking of the 'auditors') also complied with the various constraints that the MSM have to but they don't and quickly revert to" I'm a private citizen....."
@maryh4650
@maryh4650 3 ай бұрын
I was worrying you'd come a stopper today. Be careful, brambles are lethal.
@andrewgilbertson5356
@andrewgilbertson5356 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Al
@alanjewell9550
@alanjewell9550 3 ай бұрын
Oh be careful, insighting someone to wander around Cornwall with a machete, even if it is to clear the undergrowth! Love the locations.
@ohyeah2816
@ohyeah2816 3 ай бұрын
#UK❤️OK Support Labour 👍🏼✌🏼❤️😀
@DJWESG1
@DJWESG1 3 ай бұрын
"false communication" Like when i was accused of being a terrorist by the dwp and had all my history deleted.
@BaalsMistress
@BaalsMistress 3 ай бұрын
If the Government think you're a terrorist, they're not deleting all their information about you.
@swagmanandy
@swagmanandy 2 ай бұрын
Actually NO and if they LIE deliberately they CAN be sued!!!
@tonypriest3567
@tonypriest3567 2 ай бұрын
Basically starmer says jump and all the British people supposed to say how HIGH
@mpettersson
@mpettersson 3 ай бұрын
Theoretically, could the PM be charged with such? Because if the PM was to deliberately mischaracterise situation for political intent and do so by releasing a video that causes offence. Would the PM’s press office be classed as exempt? Or would that be a conflict of interest ?
@matthewmorgan6814
@matthewmorgan6814 2 ай бұрын
How could this law get through parliament?
@megapixies
@megapixies 3 ай бұрын
“Engine Sheds and Wheel Houses”… almost right.
@radiosnail
@radiosnail 3 ай бұрын
Interesting talk and lovely scenery
@daffyduk77
@daffyduk77 3 ай бұрын
With the huge volume of messages, in practice this will be unenforceable in bulk. Only usable for a small number (relatively) of specific cases. As long as perpetrators feel there's no realistic prospect of detection/conviction, will go on as before
@anotherblonde
@anotherblonde 3 ай бұрын
Isn't the Beeb's raison d'etre as per their charter to "entertain" not inform? There is no rule that their "news" programmes or "documentaries" are other than "entertainment". As such their sleazy behaviour can be said to be entertainment too. I gave up on the Beeb due to Jimmy Savile over 20 years ago and when it was hinted the Blue Peter competitions were fixed.
@redeyegooner
@redeyegooner 2 ай бұрын
From it's very inception, Television has been implemented as a propaganda device. It's such a powerful social programming tool that you need a licence to use one. The license fee funds the desired programming.
@DrGreenGiant
@DrGreenGiant 3 ай бұрын
Question; where do things like comedy and satire sit? Quite often things are false or hyperbolic, etc, for comedic effect. Memes are a good example too. Also quite curious where religion/cults/ideologies sit in there (from both the promoting and critiquing sides.)
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 3 ай бұрын
nice video so much better than an office.
@philipocarroll
@philipocarroll 2 ай бұрын
It would be much more effective to outlaw online anonymity. People would be incentivized to only say things that really matter and to stand over what they say, with only one account.
@Book-Mark
@Book-Mark 2 ай бұрын
I'm a unicorn. I live on Prison Island.
@TheVigilant109
@TheVigilant109 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I expect to see more use of this act in the future. Great scenery as usual. Many thanks
@vlnow
@vlnow 3 ай бұрын
Somehow you manage to make walking an extreme sport.
@redred7289
@redred7289 3 ай бұрын
S4C is the Welsh language tv channel.
@Me1234utube
@Me1234utube 3 ай бұрын
Camera quality is remarkably good, rambling law is strangely compelling 🙂
@carlos-dt2tz
@carlos-dt2tz 2 ай бұрын
I understand the point of law for broadcasters, however, if a commercial broadcaster did ‘lie’ the shareholders or advertisers would take action by withdrawing funds or support even if there was no reason for a prosecution. As for the BBC, the Licence fee payers could be considered the the equivalent of shareholders but without the ability to take action. We have seen that with some controversial events in recent years that actions against individuals who’s behaviour has bad or even illegal have been dealt with in a way that has garnered strong public outcry but no apparent real sanctions that a commercial broadcaster could suffer at the hansdsof their paymasters.
@darreno9874
@darreno9874 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful Engine house.
@andycleary6209
@andycleary6209 2 ай бұрын
Have the Government exempted themselves from this ?
@Lord-Sméagol
@Lord-Sméagol 2 ай бұрын
Rambling in the brambles!
@Miz-l2c
@Miz-l2c 2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@PMA65537
@PMA65537 3 ай бұрын
The clocks do not go back today. Maybe, depending on when you read it.
@kennyshortcake999
@kennyshortcake999 2 ай бұрын
Orwellian .. this is getting scary
@dalogan7290
@dalogan7290 3 ай бұрын
Under echr article 9 you got the right of thoughts, and laying is free speech as well. You got to provide you got the intention of harm, malice and or something else to be found guilty, good luck with that. Free speech is still alive and kicking, defend your rights people.
@michaelpalmer4387
@michaelpalmer4387 3 ай бұрын
Bring back seditiuous libel & knowledge taxes.
@tonypriest3567
@tonypriest3567 2 ай бұрын
Luke Skywalker where the hell are you !!!!!!
@BoulderDash24
@BoulderDash24 3 ай бұрын
Surely under this vague law any person forwarding such a message is equally liable
@gerfgerable
@gerfgerable 3 ай бұрын
Inviting people around with machetes - sounds like incitement to harm vegetation!
@zalzalahbuttsaab
@zalzalahbuttsaab 3 ай бұрын
Presumably with new areas of law, drafters are careful to engender some degree of circumspection into statute but is there an element of consideration as to the boys (judges, lawyers, barristers) having something to get their teeth into and have something to do? Sort of: let's not be too prescriptive at this early stage: the courts will fill in the gaps (and the lawyers and barristers can rub their hands too).
@parkamark
@parkamark 3 ай бұрын
You'll need a licence to send a message to anyone soon.
@wjf0ne
@wjf0ne 3 ай бұрын
@parkamark You hit the nail on the head with that one, perhaps by accident but pertinent all the same. The BBC is losing license fee money hand over fist and the far left Government we have hate the freedom of ordinary people to post their opinions on social media. So easy peasy, introduce an internet license fee to purchase your yearly government issued log on code, (this will of course be given to the BBC as the license fee is dropped with great fanfare) which will make it much easier for the powers that be to monitor the ordinary internet user.
@michaelpalmer4387
@michaelpalmer4387 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if user-to-user interaction is restrictes.
@grottybt5006
@grottybt5006 3 ай бұрын
When I was a kid I remember being told you can say anything as long as it isn't a threat of crime. Can't remember which naive adult told me that lol, probably in a far right jail camp now haha
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
Witch burner as ‘Solomon’.
@isbestlizard
@isbestlizard 2 ай бұрын
Or an MP.. or a Lord.. or an american billionairre fascist
@adamsmith6594
@adamsmith6594 3 ай бұрын
*Al I think you need to do another video tonight* The head legal honcho has said reposting videos of the rioting will be viewed with a view to inciting riots and Ofcom claim they will be assisting* The human rights act article 10 states *Article 10 protects your right to hold your own opinions and to express them freely without government interference. This includes the right to express your views aloud (for example through public protest and demonstrations) or through: published articles, books or leaflets.* Where do people stand here.
@michaelpalmer4387
@michaelpalmer4387 3 ай бұрын
I think the OSA is going to be hugely controversial.
@Geoff-n1d
@Geoff-n1d 2 ай бұрын
So imprison Starmer for lying
@cliveredfern4747
@cliveredfern4747 2 ай бұрын
Do Hope not Hate get the exemption? They appear to have admitted the online publication that the 100 targets for extremists was fake news? Does harm have to ensue? Many businesses boarded up shops in anticipation of disorder and could make no profit that day. Is financial harm covered? Or just physical and psychological?
@tonypriest3567
@tonypriest3567 2 ай бұрын
So thats about as clear has MUD
@helenbenjafield7351
@helenbenjafield7351 3 ай бұрын
Ragwort isn't illegal,&is rarely harmful.If it's dried&fed with hay to horses,then it's harmful,but they won't eat ragwort which is growing,&ragwort is essential to the survival of certain moths&butterflies,e.g,tigermoths.It's a case of people not knowing about the countryside.
@DavidMcMillan888
@DavidMcMillan888 2 ай бұрын
I hope you realize that it is no defense to say that you had no intention to make me fall off my chair and start frantically scratching my forearms in panic at he sight of you stumbling around catastrophically uneven ground, alive with thistles,in circles while trying to absorb the liabilities that are implied in your message. I have been harmed, non-trivially. See you in court! [The landscape quite a good metaphor for your subject, though.]
@chuckmaddison2924
@chuckmaddison2924 2 ай бұрын
It's always sunny and hot in UK. Off to prison 😅. Brit laws don't apply to us.
@the1beard
@the1beard 2 ай бұрын
What Camera are you using? Thank you
@peterdale7896
@peterdale7896 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like Police will have even more issues to investigate in the future....! Tread cafefully Al, these are not the polished corridors of The Inner London Crown Court or The Old Bailey.
@artmedialaw
@artmedialaw 3 ай бұрын
Fallen down the stairs there too.
@Robin-Smith
@Robin-Smith 3 ай бұрын
Do people actually rely on what's written online? Really?
@RomanHistoryFan476AD
@RomanHistoryFan476AD 3 ай бұрын
arresting people for misinformation seems quite authoritarian honestly, especially since most people do it by accident. It's also a bit dodgy would you say that there is a law against it voted in by the very people who are stereotyped as liars: politicians? If anything you would think the BBC should be the one thing most enforced to speak the truth since there role of the main broadcaster in the UK and well their own past record of lying to cover up the crimes of certain famous names.
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 3 ай бұрын
No kidding
@davida369
@davida369 3 ай бұрын
What is the make and model of the camera you are using?
@artmedialaw
@artmedialaw 3 ай бұрын
Osmo Pocket 3
@davida369
@davida369 3 ай бұрын
@@artmedialaw thank you.
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