(BBC) WAG Floor exercise final/ 2023 European Championships

[@ademarbenitezaranjo8299]

Miss Voinea is such a breath of fresh air !

[@mihaelabruma8006]

Bravo, Sabrina și Camelia Voinea! Mulțumesc pentru bucuria pe care ne-ați făcut-o. Ne vedem pe podiumul olimpic de la Paris!🏅

[@gabruekamiron8623]

Sabrina merita locul 1, talentul ei este unic si energia ei este molipsitoare. Se vede ca iubeste ceea ce face❤❤

[@shushunovafan4301]

I don't see what all the complaining is about. It's like people don't read the code. Since she took out the double double all Jess really has are landing deductions. Her tumbling is exceptionally clean, as are her leaps, good artistry (i prefer her sister here but its still solid), and her dance/choreo has variety and as such she doesn't pick up the artistry deductions that the majority of the field do. High difficulty as well. Who else would place ahead of her? Voinea has bad form, and she's the only one who id consider at a level to challenge Jess from this field.

[@juanfranciscogarza2180]

No way, read the code 5 times again, and you can find all the others.

[@juanfranciscogarza2180]

Not even Simone Biles can escape deductions apart from landings

[@Katelovesanimalsmost2134]

So excited to see Sabrina coming up !! I have been watching her on you tube for a while , she is going to explode onto the scene

[@jeepluver3195]

Sabrina should’ve had the silver here.

[@leykimayri]

She had many mistakes in execution, if she cleans those she will be a force in the future

[@liukin95]

Well her last two tumbles she didn't have very clean landings, and she fell out of her triple spin. Love Voinea and I hope she's successful as a senior, but I think her score was fair.

[@maryrojas9589]

I love love her routine

[@lovepop4336]

She deserve the Gold

[@kenmoreSF]

I think she will use this experience and will be better in future competitions. I mean, she's only 15.

[@liukin95]

So to all the people who say Gadirova was "overscored", who would you have placed ahead of her then? Would be really interested to hear your responses.

[@Jac-Jay]

For me she was definitely over marked, she fell out most of her landings on leaps and tumbling passes (except the final one), personally I'd have put Alice ahead of her, for me she was cleaner.

[@Katelovesanimalsmost2134]

Give Sabrina some time to grow and clean up her form and she will be winning the gold all around

[@saragrant9749]

It’s definitely nice to see a Romanian back in the mix

[@Katelovesanimalsmost2134]

​@@saragrant9749for sure!

[@saragrant9749]

For those whining like little children about Jessica’s style, just stop wasting time watching. Every gymnast interprets and incorporates dance in their own style and their own way- there’s no one single universal formula. She has her own unique style and just because you don’t happen to like it personally doesn’t mean it isn’t still deserving of a good score. Her tumbling landings were where the majority of deduction came, dance was clean. I make a bet all those griping could never come close to accomplishing what she has at such a young age.

[@leykimayri]

@@amethyst2823 are you planning to write more stupidities? Boohoo 😅

[@leykimayri]

@@amethyst2823 Still judging others from your personal experiences? LoL

[@leykimayri]

@@amethyst2823 So you take pills when people like me inform you that you say stupidities? Next time try shutting up your mouth and don’t write your stupidities online, it will get you a better result, ahahahaa

[@leykimayri]

@@amethyst2823 You are still judging others from your personal experiences? lol

[@angelicamendez5858]

Para mi gusto, sabrina merecia el oro, los jueces con mucho favoritismo, hacia otros equipos, como faltaron las rusas.

[@justinemcl4223]

Can you post the beam final please?

[@mihaelabruma8006]

Bravo, Sabrina! La mondiale, sa fie o medalie și mai strălucitoare!🏅 Sănătate și mult succes in continuare!

[@findingthatperfectspot4692]

It's a pity the sound is so out of sync with the images... Many thanks for uploading, though!

[@angelicamendez5858]

La gente, se le entrego totalmete a sabrina

[@timothychiles6675]

This routine is iconic! Excellent!

[@marianamartinas5772]

Hai Romania.E momentul di stralucire.❤

[@carmengatu7865]

Ne-au furat la scor

[@erinm9445]

So I do think Jess deserved gold, she was the only gymnast that brought both high-level difficutly and high-level artirstry, and mostly clean execution. But I don't understand the scoring. This was her worst of the three floor routines at this championship (less clean tumbling with slightly worse landings, and a few issues on leaps that she doesn't usually have) yet it was her highest score; her scores earlier in the competition seemed fair to me, this one didn't. And I also don't understand why both Alices didn't get as good or better E-scores as Jess, Alice D'Amato especially. They were both cleaner in their tumbling, and both had beautiful, expressive dance and choreography--they didn't have expressive facial expressions the way Jess does, but that's no more than a tenth. So while Jess should have won, it should have been a much closer competition than it was. Also think Zsofia's E score was low. Yes, she made those errors in her last two passes, but otherwise her routine was clean and expressive. Those errors shouldn't amount to 7 tenths lower than the Alices.

[@leykimayri]

Artistry deductions can reach up to 0.8 points. As a former gymnast you should have known that, lol 😂😂😂

[@rebeccasilver2181]

Do you understand how artistry is judged in the code? They updated it this quad to have very specific requirements, most of which have nothing to do with facial expression. What they want is for the gymnast to dance with her entire body, not arm waving and posing. Jess in particular incorporates head movements into her choreo, which the others don't, and she does a lot of inversions and floorwork instead of remaining mostly upright during the dance bits. Her movement is very dynamic - fast and precise in some places, slow and methodical in others. And she does a really efficient job dancing into the corner, which is a big deduction trap that everyone else falls into. I am a dancer, not a gymnast. Jess moves like someone with a solid modern technical foundation. The others don't look as natural. People spent so many years complaining that the top gymnasts weren't really dancing, just moving from one skill to another, but now that someone has managed to combine high difficulty and actual artistry, people are complaining that she's overscored.

[@user-LuGymnastics]

Because they pushed for some reason Great Britain for that. 😊Artistry is a good way to clean hands and is something subjective.

[@liukin95]

Different panel of judges will have discrepancies in scoring, this is nothing new so I don't get why people always act surprised?

[@rebeccasilver2181]

@@amethyst2823 did you miss the part where I said I am a dancer? You have no idea what you're talking about if you think Gadirova is unoriginal and labored. She's bringing elements of modern dance and theater that we have not seen in gymnastics very much. Her movements are dynamic and explosive. What you don't like, apparently, is the fact that she isn't a malnourished cog in the machinery for a communist regime. Instead, she's a fully grown woman with muscle to protect her tendons, the way an athlete should be. I guess you'd hate actual modern dance and say it lacks artistry, despite being an art form. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it bad, but that distinction is lost on you. Everything you've said about Gadirova's supposed lack of artistry is pure conjecture, but you insist that it's fact. Why are you spending multiple days replying to comments that didn't even involve you? Why are you so triggered?

[@Gubbywubby]

I feel like I'm watching a completely different competition to the commentator... In Visser's performance alone, she says "good series of spins" as Visser falls out of one and completely breaks the connection of the series, and then she says the next tumbling pass was "well landed" when Visser's feet skidded out and for a second it looked like she might fall.

[@italolima9680]

very happy for Sabrina's medal (eyes on that girl, she's fabulous) and every day more in love with the Italian team, and 8.2 execution for gadirova? I already talked about

[@askan300]

I do not understand it either.

[@leykimayri]

LEARN THR CODE OF POINTS

[@柒頭-q8q]

​@@leykimayri compare her routine in AA way cleaner but a 13.933, not 8.2 not at all

[@leykimayri]

@@柒頭-q8q I’m not seeing a more clean routine in Jess’ AA. Check them again.

[@柒頭-q8q]

@@leykimayri 3 .1 steps in AA .1 step for chuso .3 step for DLO those leaps are more or less the same 1 big step after the tor jete full, and a bit messy for the switch full, and thats pretty much it. so I will say more landing deductions, similar form and leaps deduction, but maybe the judge way strict in AA idk, but I was just not as impressed as her AA floor today, anyway she will win gold in any of those case

[@Pastyovercoat]

It’s funny that probably none of these routines would be medal winners back in like 96 and 00. Same with vault. You wouldn’t of caught a finalist doing a tsuk full. It seems like difficulty is going down

[@柒頭-q8q]

erm, cuz the code changes, ppl like korkina who do lots of leaps to get her score ofcourse could win back then, and why do gymnast need to do hard skill when they don't need to, I agree this quad is weak but not like the difficulty back in 96/00 that's way lower

[@Ryan.harvey123]

The code supports more emphasis on the dance elements and leaps instead of on floor the difficult tumbles so it’s just hard to find the balence now

[@colesmith7509]

You clearly aren’t t very brilliant. I’m BEGGING you to learn things before you spew bullshit online. The dance elements done in 96 and 00 were typically REALLY easy. Their difficulty scores would be so low they wouldn’t even be in medal contention The vaults in Europe are typically very weak this quad, but a lot of gymnasts have recently retired, downgraded, or only competed one vault. If you look at the vaults done at the last Olympics, most medalists in 96 and 00 wouldnt be even remotely close to medal contention. Try again

[@SabrinaVoineaSStolenMedal]

@@colesmith7509 Who do you think invented the Gogean? Dance was not easy in 1996. The code was different but the routines in 1996 were complete. Not just chucking skills. Calling people names based on a code from nearly 30 years ago is just stupid

[@gymcentric5727]

@@SabrinaVoineaSStolenMedalGogean’s “Gogean” would not have been credited or named after her if attempted in this code. She was not hitting 180* split, a quarter twist under rotated and lacking precision.

[@vampireshful]

Sabrina deserved the silver. UK was overscored

[@leykimayri]

Nope she didn’t. Hopefully she will clean it up though, she’s still very young

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

The landings in her first two passes were incredible!

[@nicholasjameskelly16]

@@dronesclubhighjinks but you are ignoring the form on her second pass and last two landings?

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

@@nicholasjameskelly16 I was just pointing out the positives for a very young gymnast who has a lot of potential!

[@florentaghica8229]

Ana este un talent ! Nu ma sateptam sa nu ia nimic ,dar judecatorii sunt cam furaciosi. Din pacate au preferinte.

[@carmengatu7865]

Sabrina merita mai mult,cel putin argintul.

[@juanfranciscogarza2180]

Sabrina waaaaay better than Alice. She will prove this at worlds!

[@leykimayri]

If she cleans her routines, yes. Last week’s routines though were not clean and had many execution mistakes, hence her bronze medal

[@juanfranciscogarza2180]

@@leykimayri naaaaah her acrobatics execution is already better than anyones but maybe Listunova and Andrade. She needs to work in her artistry elements? Yes.

[@leykimayri]

@@juanfranciscogarza2180 Her acrobatics execution is better than anyone’s? Really? Let’s see Her Silivas had flexed feet and a small hop that’s -0,2 (nicely done) Her Chuso was piked, had bent knees and flexed feet that is -0.5 Her front tuck and triple twist has crossed legs, flexed feet, large step that is -0.5 and she didn’t even complete the triple twist Finally her double tuck had separated legs, small step, flexed feet and she slides -0,4 So basically only her Silivas was very good, her Chuso we have seen better while her last two passes were a total mess. Not to mention deductions on the corners taking her time before the tumblings. In a world championship or the Olympics she will need binoculars in order to be able to see the color of the medals and the same in any European championship that the Russians also compete, unless she cleans not only her dance elements execution but also her tumblings. In addition she also needs to fix her choreography since she also gets tons of deductions for it (example no complex choreography, there is no fluency, she mostly poses, etc). She is very young she has time to clean it up but she’s nowhere even close to being at the top of the floor gymnasts in the world (meaning getting the medals), I doubt she’d even get a place in the final in a world championship with a 7.5 in execution when she has to compete two Brazilian girls, two Russians, two Americans, at least one Japanese, Canadian maybe, plus the rest of the Europeans

[@柒頭-q8q]

​@@leykimayri i agree but she start way higher than your favorite girl-Jess,she was nowhere to be find in her 15/16, even in the Olympics she was nobody, you have to know this europeans D score was particularly harsh, look at jess routine in last years world EF with a 8.2 and this years 8.2x a 13.7 is enough to make the finals She should change her passes to a Biles2, Silivas, front tuck/layout to full in, double tuck Delete the triple turn and add a C jump/leap and keep the rest Tbh I never saw someone, beside simone biles do a clean Chso/Moors, that layout shape was hard to keep everyone get a pike down deduction so why not just do a DLO

[@leykimayri]

@@柒頭-q8q Again, she really needs to clean like everything. She has the difficulty and the power but she lacks a lot in execution. I wasn’t following British gymnastics before Tokyo besides a few gymnasts, the twins weren’t among them. First time I noticed them was during Tokyo Olympics so I don’t know how was Jess in her junior years

[@Fernando-dt8je]

Gadirova ....landings were not good. I do have a feeling they tend to overscore her performances.

[@leykimayri]

Landings are NOT the only thing that judges deduct. Instead of wasting time writing stupidities online you should spend that time LEARNING the CODE OF POINTS.

[@Fernando-dt8je]

@@leykimayri bla bla bla. Believe me. I know that. You are obviously a fan since you're replying to everyone who says anything that's not a compliment to her.

[@leykimayri]

@@Fernando-dt8je I reply to ignorants who write stupidities. If someone just points out her mistakes and talks about them I don’t care, when ignorants write stupidities yes I reply

[@Fernando-dt8je]

@@leykimayri lucky us you are out there:-)

[@leykimayri]

@@Fernando-dt8je Yes exactly lucky for you

[@carmengatu7865]

Ma stiamo scherzando? Sabrina era medaglia d'oro altro che Gadirova con tutti quei saltelli all'atteraggio.

[@leykimayri]

Jump landings aren’t the only deductions. Do yourself a favour and LEARN THT CODE OF POINTS. You will enjoy gymnastics more

[@carmengatu7865]

@@leykimayri se lo dici te

[@leykimayri]

@@carmengatu7865 Exactly

[@ancutabalint7790]

Of, Ana😢

[@SabrinaVoineaSStolenMedal]

This announcer just makes shit up. She said well landed like 10 times when a gymnast jumped back a foot.

[@leykimayri]

Learn the difference between “well landed” vs “excellently landed”

[@SabrinaVoineaSStolenMedal]

@@leykimayri Bull shit. She lied, SEVERAL times .

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

I think they're purposefully vague. What exactly does "well" mean, right? Isn't this lady commentator Alice Kinsella's coach?

[@VoroninHop]

"This announcer" is one of Kinsella's 2 currents coaches, and very very experienced former GB WAG national team coach, Christine Still.

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

@@VoroninHop 🙄 That and the overly biased commentary makes the BBC sound like a local community channel run by parents. That’s very unfortunate because I used to prefer their coverage to NBC’s. Then again, NBC wouldn’t cover the European Championships.

[@maussolo]

Gadirova is really clean in the air but her forced fake smile is far from "artistry". On the contrary, Sabrina has so much form issues to clean up but her original interpretation and personality are exquisite.

[@leykimayri]

Nobody gets artistry points for just smiling don’t write STUPIDITIES

[@Soogle42]

@@leykimayri This was what the comentators said

[@leykimayri]

@@Soogle42 Them you should inform the commentators that they also need to learn the code. The gymnast needs to be expressive according to the music, not “smile”, imagine a gymnast having a very sad song and smiling all the time while performing it?

[@asharadayne6159]

I really like Sabrina's choreography, but Jessica's is, at this point, far ahead of hers in terms of expressiveness, connection to the music, and overall complexity. She doesn't smile until the end because that's part of the performance and it wouldn't fit the music.

[@erinm9445]

She's very clean in the air for the first 2/3. But then she has really severe pikedowns, and bad leg separation in her double layout, (and sometimes her chest is still low on landing even with the pikedown, but I guess that's part of the landing, not the in-the-air portion)

[@tatilalima2874]

As gêmeas Gadirova vieram pra fazer história, tem presença, força, expressão nas coreografias. Amo essas meninas 😍 ainda vão fazer história em Paris 2024 aguardem

[@petrapavlicic4797]

Meni su te djevojke prekrasne i obožavam ih

[@kirbymattocks1654]

As always the commentators need to just shut up and let us watch

[@askan300]

So for those spread angles and hop landings, Gadirova gets 14,000 ? Overrated again. 🙄

[@leykimayri]

You do realise that tumbling is NOT the only thing that the gymnast can get deductions right? Oh sorry I forgot, to know that you need to have a working brain and know the CoP, both things you lack

[@matshitseamantle]

​@@leykimayri yeah i used to think that some gymnasts are being favoverd until i studied the CoP and learned that some gymnasts can afford to have mistakes in their routines because of their difficulty unlike those who do clean routines with little difficulty

[@liukin95]

She was not overscored. She gets big points for her artistic components and completed her tumbles cleanly.

[@Asadddasad12]

​@@leykimayri funny to think insulting people validates your opinions

[@leykimayri]

@@Asadddasad12 It’s not an insult when you speak the truth. Learn the difference

[@mihaipetcu1744]

Very biased judges...she should have won sincer...at least 0.3 higher în execution score

[@Lidia-zf5te]

A nedreptățiți Pe Sabrina trebuia locul 1 ia furat medalia

[@carmengatu7865]

Ne-au furat pe fata

[@carmengatu7865]

Sunt de acord

[@marinelatudor4060]

Acum am văzut ce exercițiu bun a avut Sabrina Superbă!❤

[@fraustolluba9311]

Once again, Jessica is technically surely well deserved the world champion But apart from this naked facts, I still do not like her style, her faking faces, her hectic movements, the way she behaves 🫣 Her routines are full of difficulty, but not full of beauty and attitude. In this points is this young romanian girl miles in front of Jessica.

[@tatilalima2874]

Mas o que seria da dança sem as expressões? Ela é autêntica

[@appleguyforyou7564]

Not the same without the Russians. Its not the Euros without them. Feels like not legit wins. Sorry.

[@SabrinaVoineaSStolenMedal]

Not Floor. She won with the Russians

[@chewiegym2765]

@@SabrinaVoineaSStolenMedal exactly. She beat everyone in Europe in 2021.

[@saragrant9749]

The lack of a country full of butchers does not in any way diminish this competition, it’s selfish arrogance to state otherwise. These athletes are amazing and do not deserve to have their accomplishments diminished in such a churlish way.

[@gymnastsinspire3724]

@Sara Grant Oh then they must feel amazing competing with israel and genocide states of America right?

[@SabrinaVoineaSStolenMedal]

@@saragrant9749 you're wrong. There are asterisk all over this meet except for Jessica