BC 304 Daedalus Class Battleship Breakdown Stargate

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@Thor570874
@Thor570874 4 ай бұрын
I remember the first time the 304 was on screen. My dad and I were watching. I still get goosebumps thinking of it when it took on those hive ships!
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
yes, the same it showed up like a boss and instantly was better than the prometheus it is a really good design
@Melody_Raventress
@Melody_Raventress 22 күн бұрын
Such a great moment, I used to watch Stargate with my mom. I miss her and it.
@EmrysMerlin8807
@EmrysMerlin8807 14 күн бұрын
Hive Ships: "We attack Atlantis!" Col. Caldwell on the Daedalus: "So you have chosen...death."
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 14 күн бұрын
@@EmrysMerlin8807 hahahaha brilliant
@kurlinni8464
@kurlinni8464 17 күн бұрын
At 13:28-13:40 you mention rooms that only certain ships had. I would recommend mentioning which ships were shown with which rooms if possible.
@dawall3732
@dawall3732 Ай бұрын
As low as 3 or 4 crew? That sounds like one of the writers was having a bit of a joke that nobody noticed. It is the 3. 0. 4. after all.
@whirledpeaz5758
@whirledpeaz5758 5 ай бұрын
Nice breakdown, thank you for the Nimitz class comparison. I served on USS Dwight D Eisenhower CVN 69 as nuclear qualified Machinst Mate, 1986-1990
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
awsome I've been aboard the hms prince of wales when it was in port in Liverpool I was lucky enough to get a ticket for a tour it was an amazing experience
@alezandercorben4122
@alezandercorben4122 21 күн бұрын
Love sound of the engines.
@MattBorgardt
@MattBorgardt 4 ай бұрын
I never realized that they actually kind of look like the Battlestar Galactica...
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
kinda simular both have fighter bays on each side, and both have an angerler design . They both use similar weapons to ballistic guns and missiles. One could easily mistake ither ship belonging to the other universe, both ships are great
@martinantab3520
@martinantab3520 5 ай бұрын
About the size, i saw some people saying that BC-304 should be 750 meters long. But 650 meters sounds believable too. Nice video
@CN.23
@CN.23 5 ай бұрын
The interior of the BC-304 must either really filled or heavily occupied by arms or other essentials. As the F-302s are roughly 2.5 times the width of a F-35 and the Nimitz carrier can hold ~12-14 aircraft where catapults 1 and 2 launch from. As per a Reddit discussion "Spinobreaker" described how the F302s scale in comparison to the BC-304, but also stated the following . For the record, the sizes of the vfx models are as follows F302 Height - 5.8m Width - 26.2m Length - 14.2m X303 Height - 193m Width - 250m Length - 520m (for some reason i always remember this as 550m... idky) BC304 Height - 154m Width - 372m Length - 732m If anyone is interested the following is his deviant art page. www.deviantart.com/spinobreaker/gallery/67588965/stargate-now-tech-breakdown
@lasarith2
@lasarith2 5 ай бұрын
Trekyards had the Original CGI model its 700 meters
@geographicaloddity2
@geographicaloddity2 5 ай бұрын
My units of Earth measurement are 300ft (American Football field), 1/4 mile (dragstrip) and Ninitz class but since the Ford class is the latest and greatest and the deck catapult is basically a rail gun. My space measurement until is NCC-1701. Voyager is about the same size as the Enterprise. EntD's saucer's diameter is roughly the length of the 1701. An Imperial Star Destroyer is....
@Johnnyaspec
@Johnnyaspec Ай бұрын
Thank you for getting the bridge location correct!! The sheer volume of people online who think the bridge is up top is astounding. Some points worth mentioning for your video content: You need to work on your pronunciation of certain words as you get more than a few wrong. Also your wording and description needs fine tuning too. It seemed like you were just doing one take and running with it hense the errors are left in. Consider breaking up the script to make retakes and editing easier. Overall though a very informative video which i enjoyed, I look forward to seeing more.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Ай бұрын
@@Johnnyaspec thanks
@alezandercorben4122
@alezandercorben4122 21 күн бұрын
Love the 302
@OriginalMicycle
@OriginalMicycle 3 ай бұрын
3:21 "Naqahadah" is going to be my next RPG character's name
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 3 ай бұрын
nice
@sg-24
@sg-24 5 ай бұрын
Amazing break down! Can’t wait to see more from you.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
cheers buddy I do my best its a lot of work I'm glad you enjoyed it
@tyrannicpuppy
@tyrannicpuppy 5 ай бұрын
Done a similar comparison to the Nimitz myself a few years back on the SG subreddit when trying to work out how much naquadah was required to build these beauties. Was some fun math. Helps to give the ship it's true scale too. The DVD Magazine has a lot to apologize for when it comes to sizing. However, that miniscule size is also mentioned on the original concept art diagrams. A shame given that the sizing won't work with the F-302 when sized for human beings at that scale. So the 650-700m number must be the more accurate value. You did a pretty good job on the video. Confidence and performance will surely get better as you go, so keep at it there. There are a few minor gaffs here and there that could use a bit of refinement before posting as well. For instance you have mispelt Does on the two thumbnails you displayed for the other videos. Definitely subbing to see what else you post in future.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
thanks buddy I appreciate the amazing feedback
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
with the dose does spelling my spellchecker says both are correct so im not sure edit the spelling I used was dose meaning like dose of medicine so mines wrong word not spelling haha I get there
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
hey buddy i changed the thumbnail on the hyperspace explain video to the correct does thanks for pointing it out any other errors feel free to point them out to cheers
@dougsmith6262
@dougsmith6262 5 ай бұрын
​@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y The bummer about spell check is that it doesn't also context check, lol. Hate when that happens.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
@@dougsmith6262 yh i suffer with grammar and spelling so combine the two its tough to write let alone read what I writing but I try none the less hopefully I will get better as I do more videos
@deforesttappan6478
@deforesttappan6478 4 ай бұрын
BC304 is my favorite ship in sci-fi!!! In fact I use it a lot in some of my crossovers!!! Or use it as the base for some of my stories!!! What???
@Powerhaus88
@Powerhaus88 4 ай бұрын
The Daedalus-class is 732 meters long, 367 meters wide, and 135 meter tall. These are the correct, and revised measurements made by the person who created the ship.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
if so, then my estimate is not far of
@Powerhaus88
@Powerhaus88 4 ай бұрын
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Indeed!
@richardfld
@richardfld 15 күн бұрын
Your depiction of the 304's railguns is wrong. The turrets you show are for the Destiny and are gatling type cannons. The railguns on the 304's are totally different.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 15 күн бұрын
did you watch the video @6:56 i literally show the Daedalus railguns on the Daedalus firing so I'm lost on your comment cheers anyway
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 15 күн бұрын
also there is not one image or mention of the destiny in this video so I'm so unclear on your comment
@cliffordweigand2349
@cliffordweigand2349 Ай бұрын
They could have still made new Prometheus-class ships by redesigning the plans after the more advanced weapons and technology came out, just saying
@turtletube420
@turtletube420 25 күн бұрын
The show actually predicted the year and cause of death of don s Davis aka General Hammond
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 25 күн бұрын
@turtletube420 actually Don s Davis passed in Jun 2008 the last episode of SGA which mentions General Hammond passing was filmed in late 2008 and aired January 9th 2009 renaming the phoenix the George Hammond in honour of Don s Davis and character
@Joel-re9kt
@Joel-re9kt 5 ай бұрын
Nice breakdown...the BC-304 it's one of my favorite designs ever...I love the X-303...but the BC-304 it's better in every way
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
yes the 304 shows tech progression building of the 303 and is designed in a very earth military way its a beast of a ship
@Joel-re9kt
@Joel-re9kt 5 ай бұрын
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y tottaly agree,the BC-304 it's a excellent vessel...I prefer to have one BC-304...instead of a Star Trek federation starfleet vessel
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
@@Joel-re9kt I want to do a comparison of the 304 compared to say the enterprise e in terms of who would win in a fight think it would be intreasting but yes I agree 304 over any trek ship
@JohnFinzel
@JohnFinzel 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad they did away with the Prometheus design, because if you look at it from the top it looks suspiciously like a phallus.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 2 ай бұрын
@user-sb9br6zu2c don't most rockets and space ships hahaha
@bobingabout
@bobingabout 4 ай бұрын
Something I think you missed... I didn't hear you mention it either when talking about power supply, or the FTL engine, but... While it can be powered by the ZPM, the Hyperdrive is normally powered by a Naquadria reactor, regulated with a special regulating buffer component, as Naquadria is highly unstable. To be fair, it's described as how the X-303 promethius Hyperdrive works, not the BC-304s, but considering the 304 was designed before they got a ZPM, or Asguard power supply, you have to assume that they still used this as the Hyperdrive power supply as a default.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
@bobingabout in my research the 303 and 304 received asgard hyperdrive along with the shields the asgard hyperdrive are powered by naquada generators not naquadria only the human built hyperdrive engine use naqudria as a short cut as earth didint have the means to generate the immense energy needed but with the asgard engines they use powerful naquadah generators the show moved away from naquadria engines after the prometheus engine core blew up cause after that they retro fitted an alkesh hyperdrive engine then late upgraded to asgard engine so no from the show info and info I reserch for the video they don't use naquadria generators also the zpm was a add on power booster same as the asgard core the ships own power was only naquadah generators
@bobingabout
@bobingabout 4 ай бұрын
​@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Considering for the most part "Put more energy in, Ship goes faster" is a general rule (Which is why a ZPM can get them to Pegasus in 2 weeks, rather than 2 months), they'd either still need a Naquadria generator to power the asgard hyperdrive, or a significant improvement in the Naquadah generator technology. Asgard technology doesn't actually use Naquadah to power their ships, they have something called Neutrino-ion generators. So unless the Asgard shared this technology, and it was incorporated into the 304, then the 304 likely still uses Naquadria to power the hyperdrive. I mean, I'm not going to outright say you're wrong, I'm sure the Asgard hyperdrive is more efficient than the Goa'uld design, but it also goes faster, so unless you can point me to specific evidence that it isn't using a Naquadria reactor to power the hyperdrive (in the absence of a ZPM), I'm going to assume it is.
@John.S92
@John.S92 5 ай бұрын
In one episode where Michell manually maneauvre the Odessey to have Samantha Carther who was in a space suit safely touch town in the vessel's starboard flightbay, there and with many other scenes featuring the BC F-304, that the ship is not that large, along with stats. mentioning about 8-16 F-302 fightercrafts, and with a crew of around 200, so with a size of 225meters in length as stats given, that seems far more plausible than a massive 650m,
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
there is many inaccuracies with the size I have a new video coming out soon that I try to find the right size and let's just say its big I'm not saying your wrong or right I'm just saying there more to take into account for size other that what are brains percive in scale on screen I hope my new video helps to define the size in a way that makes sense
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
also I just worked it out if the 304 was 225m it can not fit the f-302s in the hanger as the ship is to small. the f-302 26m wingspan would be the size width wise of the entire hangers width so tell me do you still think the 304 is 225m long
@jonharper4478
@jonharper4478 4 ай бұрын
The problem is the Show Runners realized the size error and created Stargate Now, which has the true sizes of the ships. The studio simply got it wrong early on and this is always a contentious issue among the fans.
@jayburn00
@jayburn00 5 ай бұрын
I made a partly functional bc304 and a partly functional hatak in forge in one of the halo games. The bc-304 was close to the correct size.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
very nice i would love to see them also I too have built replicas of the 304 along with other ships in space engineers check out my other channel if you intreasted
@blakeanderson259
@blakeanderson259 5 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the content!
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
thanks im glad you enjoyed it 😊
@DMS_Knighted_Drifter
@DMS_Knighted_Drifter 5 ай бұрын
Pretty dope video dude
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
thanks I did my best
@Hambie76
@Hambie76 4 ай бұрын
Small correction. The Prometheus and the Daedalus are not sister ships. That would imply ships within the same class. Those two vessels aren't anywhere near the same class by any measure. I also take issue with the use of the term Battle cruiser. Let's be honest, they chose that term because it sounds cool. But that's a whole different conversation. As is the one where the Air Force is sailing warships, but whatever!
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
it's stated by Dr. mckay in the show that the daedalus is the sister ship to the prometheus regardless if they are two diffrent design of ship, and for battle cruiser, I'm not sure about classes, but I would call it a deep space carrier myself
@JohnNathanShopper
@JohnNathanShopper 4 ай бұрын
🚀
@jbarninatus5898
@jbarninatus5898 4 ай бұрын
The first armaments was Gatling guns. The Railguns came later on.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
the daedalus has always had rail guns maybe your thinking of the prometheus as in the episode of atlantis when they bring railguns to atlantis, its stated that the rail guns where slated for the prometheus so I'm guessing the 304 was built with the railguns from the start
@Eaglestorm27
@Eaglestorm27 3 ай бұрын
You knew what is the most strange part for the BC-304 . It"s the fact it is a twentyfirst century building a ship who's size either match the Nimitz or are two times bigger . As for the power source , I alway thought that the BC-304 should have a bigger version meant to powering the systems such as the shield and the sublight engine . We know that the Railgun are powered by integrated naquadah generator on their own . Hell , I was wondering why they didn't build larger railguns or a spinal variant meant to accelerate to percentage of the speed of light , they have the energy and the technology to do that . I mean come on , you think that accelerating a ship with a millions tons of tonnage at several ten thousands gees in short time is far much more complex than say accelerating projectiles with a mass of a few hundreds kilos to a couple of tons at percentage of the speed of light that could release kinetic energy in the range of hundreds of megatons or a couple gigatons . As for the Power core , I alway thought that power source that was given to us by the Asgard seemed using subspace as a power source . It"s too bad , they didn't describe more . However , the hull is strange , I know that the elements they used are very strong . The Trinium was say to be hundreds time stronger than steel ( was it tensile strength or compression strength ) and lighter than steel . The Naquadah seemed to be used to reduce the energy level the ship receive . However , We are in scifi universe , I alway imagined using a multilayered composite of fullerene and nanotube using said elements will increase the hull strength . I mean they have teleporters that could scan , transport a human being in the form of pure energy and send him /her at orbital range at bare minimum . If they have scanners to do that and energy , they could easly produced very efficient materials with a atomic-scale precision . It is quite strange , they didn't use other materials such as tungstene , titane or steel . I mean if you could mix them with the scifi elements and build it with the level of metamaterial physic that I spoke about , they could have made stronger hulls . In short , It was a fun video . However , the author did mention the problem of incoherencies and uncertainties that are present in the series .
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 3 ай бұрын
@Eaglestorm27 great comment and ideas I love your take on the rail guns and the power plant in my guess is a large asgard design naquadah generators that powers the engines and shields with smaller naquadah generators scattered through the ship for secondary power and for size I want to believe that the x 303 is around 200m long and the bc 304 is round 700m as the 304 was constructed with a lot more alien tech and major asgard involvement but that's my take thanks for the comment
@kevinwestrom4775
@kevinwestrom4775 5 ай бұрын
I never understood for those ships why they didn't have/use a fire control computer able to track & auto-fire the gun turrets, instead of forcing a much slower process of manually tracking to fire at small attack craft. It would have been far more efficient than forcing ship personnel, i.e Ronan to manually fire & get frustrated enough to smash the control consoles..
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
yh I get that, when researching I couldn't find any mention of auto computer target tracking outside of target acquisition I imagine if it was built today it would have computer auto target and firing solutions without Manuel aim l, but I suspect the manual part was for the show and the scene but who know except the directors and producers
@adams4075
@adams4075 4 ай бұрын
Naquadria was used in the 304's as its main power source. Naquadah is too weak to power then entire ship, as Naquadria can do according to the show I can't remember what episode.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
naqudria was used to power the early x303 hyperdrive but was later replaced by an asgard design the ships never used naqudria for a power source as its to unstable
@jameswilliams6231
@jameswilliams6231 5 ай бұрын
Great video
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
thanks
@Joel-re9kt
@Joel-re9kt 4 ай бұрын
can you make one breakdown of the BC-303 Prometheus from stargate???
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
my next video is the breakdown of the F-302 then after is going to the prometheus
@Joel-re9kt
@Joel-re9kt 4 ай бұрын
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y thank you....your breakdowns are awesome
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
@Joel-re9kt thank you, much appreciated
@Kirsten2933
@Kirsten2933 4 ай бұрын
Like 516 🇨🇦😎👍
@TerrenceChilds-xz3xu
@TerrenceChilds-xz3xu 5 ай бұрын
This is a good
@sarcasticstartrek7719
@sarcasticstartrek7719 5 ай бұрын
no it isnt
@jeffellison4848
@jeffellison4848 4 ай бұрын
i thought they used Naquadah as a power generator at one point
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
the ship is powered by naquada generators
@NCC-72545A
@NCC-72545A 4 ай бұрын
The BC-304 is a battle cruiser, not a battleship. I am a stickler for accuracy.
@davidsargent9081
@davidsargent9081 4 ай бұрын
so it's less than 100m shorter than the ship from SGU? I think you've missed something there bro. other than that though good video :P
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
@davidsargent9081 it does seem big, check out the size breakdown of the 304 video to see a potential true size and well destiny looks huge 1km or more but I'm not sure it's that big as it's all compact however I will be doing a size breakdown of destiny after ive done the destiny shuttle breakdown as I will use the shuttle as a scale and we can do a rough size that way we can see the true size let's not forget the sizes stated online maybe wrong has the shows played fast an loose with the sclaing on screen in the video I'm only stating the 2 sizes I found online and 225m is far to small that's why I picked 650m but who knows at this point thanks for the comment 😀
@paulmusgrave2243
@paulmusgrave2243 5 ай бұрын
You compared to an aircraft carrier,then showed each hangar carrying 4-8 craft.Which don’t need a runway.The catapult of a Nimitz is less that 100 metres,maybe 90 meters.And looking at scenes in show 90 meters is probably too much.I would say it’s definitely less than 300 metres.It seems small on screen.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
an F-302 has a wingspan of 26m double say the F/A 18 witch is a carrier aircraft so given the size of the f-302 I say it needs to be large with each hanger being at least 60m to 80m wide to be able to line up 2 F-302 next to each other for take off plus the bays each side of runway once you start to add it all up it starts to get big
@paulmusgrave2243
@paulmusgrave2243 5 ай бұрын
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y it doesn’t look like it on screen
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
@paulmusgrave2243 and this is the problem its hard to see the size of something in space, because there's nothing to scale it next to but the f-302 have a size that is shown so atleast the f302 can be scaled next to the 304 for size I think a lot of people debate the size cause it dosent look that big/small and they can't belive the large size due to the construction not making sense but in all my information gathering about the 304 its definitely bigger than 300m other wise it dosent work with the interior, I don't think there any one right answer at this point so I let you guys decide for yourselves on what you think while I tell you what I think its a good debate 😀
@paulmusgrave2243
@paulmusgrave2243 5 ай бұрын
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y every sci-fi show has this problem,scaling has always been an issue.Generally on fly bys because they want an epic scene that lasts 60 seconds when really it should be 1-2 seconds.When O’Neil flys a 302 and ground staff are all around it you can see it’s way smaller than an f18.Maybe thats because it’s a practical model and it’s meant to be bigger or that the technology has advanced that they don’t need conventional jet engines.For me a Nimitz can launch 2 f18 from the prow of the ship side by side,around 90 meters.Then there’s the missile cells for scaling.This was a brilliant show btw one of my favourites and I don’t think they should bring it back and ruin it like Star Wars or Star Trek.
@808INFantry11X
@808INFantry11X 5 ай бұрын
Loved your video small critique you misspelled Odyssey and the Prometheus was 303 not a 304.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the feed back but I'm confused where do I say the prometheus is a 304 I watched the video back a few times and can't catch it can you time stamp for me please and my spelling sucks without spell check must of not checked spelling when in edit but thanks again for the feedback
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
from 1.40 where I talk about the history I say x 303 prometheus a few times when referring to the prometheus is that the section you saying about the prometheus or is it eles where ??
@saquist
@saquist 5 ай бұрын
650 meters is probably the wrong scale length for BC-304. Generally speaking there are 2 ways to scale ships in scifi. 1. By means of other ships 2. By Design Intent. Sometimes they will agree with each other...more often they don't. As a Structural Drafter and Designer I've done this many times. I prefer Design Intent. What is the max size does X304 need to carry 16 302 fighters. If The stargate is 6.7 meters in diameter the makes the X302 16 meters in wing span. The max size of X304 is 417 meters long. If X304 were 650 meters long the VLS tubes would be wide enough to fire a 3.7 meter Dia Falcon 9 rocket out of.😅
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
online i could only find 2 sizes for the 304 and like a say in the video going based of the f-302s size, 225m L is way to small so i opt for the larger 650m L size, now i see you point of view that the shows scale is based on what shot they need at the time and it doesn't always match between shots but i do think the 304 is 500m L or more to accommodate the f-302 hangers as the f-302s are 26m wide themselves so in my mind each hanger is like its own aircraft carrier in size so in that case imagine 2 Nimitz class carriers on either side of the 304 and go of that for a rough estimate but thats the fun thing about it we can debate ourselves the size unless stated directly from the creators witch I'm don't sure it has, and with the VLS missiles if their size is like the mark 41 at 2.21m diameter wide i see why you would think the neck would be to big but i don't think so due to tube doors probably being at least 5m wide but if you look at the way i have roughly worked it out i reckon the forward section of the 304 the neck is around 70m-100m wide to fit with the overall width of the ship but thats my rough measurements and probably not right but great comment by the way its great to discuss
@saquist
@saquist 5 ай бұрын
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Indeed. I didn't want put a wall of text down but I will note additionally that if both bays are like Air craft carriers then I question why X304 only carries 16 fighters, where as Nimitz carries 60 to 100 aircraft. Also why such a small crew? The premise with Design Intent is to fit a useful purpose with the only a necessary scale. Scale follows resources and materials. Militaries always design a minimum viable product. Two of these ships were destroyed. You must ask your self "Did I need 2 650 meter 75% empty ships to carry 16 fighters?" In one episode its made clear the ships can't carry more than the small hundred or so people due to the limits of air. Finally construction consideration. Atlantis revealed these ships construction are easy to see from orbit. We have 480 meter dry docks and ship yards but nothing close to 650 meters. Norfolk can handle 340 meter carriers and they take 10 years to construct. Stargate pops 1 out every year. The USA suddenly got super efficient with the shipyards.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
@saquist yh its definitely up to debate on size but I can imagine the ship having thick Hull and alot of space is possible engines and other ship essentials like air ducts and Jeffrey tubes I'm not sure there's a blueprint for deck layout anywhere online also its quit spacy inside with estimate 2m wide corridors nice size crew quarters I could go on but I do get your point plus and aircraft carrier holds plane underneath main deck the 304 dosent the hanger has the runway in the middle with two rows of 302s each side there could even be a passage way between the two hangers that would take up space but hay its all speculation we need a exact blueprint with decks hull pipes and all the other things in the walls for an accurate cut away also just to point out the enterprise E from trek is 680m long so compare the 2 and make a estimate also I think the crew size of 200 makes sense for the ship given the explanation Rodney and Caldwell say in the show but again its all speculation only the creator of the ship knows for sure whats what
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
@saquist also to add on to the ship building yh I don't understand the quickness of the construction unless there's asgard tech involved with construction. it don't make sense but as we never see it outside the x 303 hanger who knows what infrastructure they have to build the 304 but I reckon the build the ship in and underground hanger till space worthy then moved to orbit for finial interior construction allowing for the next ship to start construction but again as we don't see any of the infrastructure from ore refining to part construction its really hard to speculate the method and time outside the shows dialog but it's intreasting to imagine
@saquist
@saquist 5 ай бұрын
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y carriers can carry 36 fighters on the main deck. Space fighters don't need runways. If Daedalus is 650 meters long then they should have 72+ fighter compliment easily. Then obviously fighters could be stored under the flight deck because what else would you do with that space give Nimitz size length and height. I will respectfully disagree even with creator of the ship as to whether he actually took these considerations into account. Andrew Probert creator of Enterprise D and Refit Enterprise CLEARLY did because he's a designer and US NAVY. He understand what these scales mean. I've done this with Sovereign class and its creator. John Eaves. Sad to say it's the worst designed ship named Enterprise. (Poorly planned separation plane, Quantum torpodo turret that fires through the windshield of the Captains Yacht, no engines for the stardrive...etc...etc) You'll find that if John Eaves doesn't think he had time in 1 year of preproduction to design Sovereign properly...the designers on Stargate SG1 certainly didn't have that time either.
@TerrenceChilds-xz3xu
@TerrenceChilds-xz3xu 2 ай бұрын
Can someone please tell me why does the us air force have start ship's and not the us navy?
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 2 ай бұрын
i would think its to do with the air force being the ones that are assigned to the stargate program and not the navy
@mrspudly1
@mrspudly1 4 ай бұрын
Don S. Davis not Dons Davies.
@greg1769
@greg1769 5 ай бұрын
How many decks?
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
hmm again it's not found officially anywhere but I would say 10 to 20 decks on foward section and upwards of 25 to 30 on rear section but again this is just a guess and is not accurate
@leeroberts1192
@leeroberts1192 5 ай бұрын
We never get any confirmation on the location of the bridge. There's no point where we see the rest of the ship out of the bridge windows. If the bridge were located in the middle by the next, I'd expect to be able to see some of the rest of the ship.
@Stuartboom89
@Stuartboom89 5 ай бұрын
It was confirmed in the show that the bridge was in the middle, behind the missiles
@leeroberts1192
@leeroberts1192 5 ай бұрын
@@Stuartboom89 Which episode?
@tyrannicpuppy
@tyrannicpuppy 5 ай бұрын
@@leeroberts1192 not confirmed in dialogue, but the view out the windows confirms that the bridge is central to the neck looking forwards. If it were up in the tower atop the shell, we'd be seeing the neck from the left hand side, rather than the dead centre view it has whenever we look out.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
their is a few shots in Atlantis where the bridge shows the neck out the window in the position i have said yes it may not have been verbally said but going of the shows visuals i choose the neck for the bridge however in the ark of truth movie when the odyssey goes through the supergate it does imply the that the bridge is at the top as thats where it shows sg1 at the moment the ship passes through the event horizon but that could be due to directors choice rather than actual ship designers choice, maybe both can be bridges, maybe the neck is the bridge for the Daedalus and the top is the bridge for the odyssey i don't know but its fun to speculated
@standingstrong87
@standingstrong87 4 ай бұрын
You way oversized the 304. She only holds 12 302s and 16 missiles. A Nimitz carries over 60 aircraft and a destroyer 1/3 its size carries 96 missile tubes.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 4 ай бұрын
you would think that and yes it seems big but I did another video doing a breakdown of the size and it has to be around that size for the F-302 to fit in it
@timothyhaynes-lz1we
@timothyhaynes-lz1we 5 ай бұрын
The BC304 can defeat any body in Syfy..
@kevinwestrom4775
@kevinwestrom4775 5 ай бұрын
Any other ship in scyfy? Disagree, as it couldn't defeat the Milky Way replicators, and doubtful of the Pegasus replicators either.
@Seastallion
@Seastallion 5 ай бұрын
​@@kevinwestrom4775 Disagree. The only reason it couldn't deal with the Replicators was because it was built after the Milky Way (not really though) Replicators were destroyed and thus wasn't weaponized with that foe in mind. If it had been, the BC-304 could've easily been equipped with an upscaled ARW (Anti-Replicator Weapon, like the handgun version shown on SGA) that O'Neill got from the Ancient Repository of Knowledge. Thor had equipped a planet-wide version on his ship and Dr. McKay mentioned that Earth had been in the process of building their own when they were dealing with the Pegasus Replicators. So equipped, a BC-304 would be able to quickly and easily take out a Replicator ship.
@bracesbread01
@bracesbread01 5 ай бұрын
Ori ships one banged it and the UNSC Infinity would eat it alive
@Seastallion
@Seastallion 5 ай бұрын
@@bracesbread01 After the Asgard Beam Weapon upgrades, the Ori ships were no match with the BC-304 one versus one. They took out two Ori ships in a row the first time it was tested. A BC-304 with a ZPM boosting it is extremely powerful, and it did those things without one. With one, the shields and hyperdrive are very ridiculous, and they're already ridiculous without. The shields were able to withstand a direct strike from a sustained solar flare. The hyperdrive is one of the fastest in all of sci-fi. The BC-304 has very strong defense, and if that doesn't work extremely few could catch up to it in an escape.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
​@@Seastallionlove this comment the 304 is a beast add a zpm and not much can beat it I wager it can take on most other scifi ship in one on one combat its definitely built for battle
@lasarith2
@lasarith2 5 ай бұрын
The Prometheus was BC 303 not 304
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
the prometheus was X-303
@lasarith2
@lasarith2 5 ай бұрын
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y technically we’re both right , X-303 then BC 303 - but your text in the description was BC 304 , you missed it in your editing
@mwshields9002
@mwshields9002 5 ай бұрын
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Or in colonel o'neill set of mind the Enterprise.
@geographicaloddity2
@geographicaloddity2 5 ай бұрын
I would have been tempted to compare it to the Nimitz or the Ford and NCC-1701.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
do you mean a comparison to all 3 at the same time
@DaBurntToaster
@DaBurntToaster 5 ай бұрын
Wtf happened to all the actual sci fi shows…..
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 2 ай бұрын
i know right i miss them but we've had some good ones like the expanse and the Orville and the new treks been overall decent i think the problem is budget and writers i imagine space battles cost a lot in CGI to make so only big production company's can produce sci fi show and the new writers can created anything new its all copy's of whats come before but thats my guess
@tarn1135
@tarn1135 5 ай бұрын
Dude a minute long intro? Really? Just put your channel name up and move on to your videos point.
@TJMODLA
@TJMODLA 4 ай бұрын
Calm down.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 2 ай бұрын
i like my intro lol i grew up with long ass intros so I'm used to them
@lech1985wawaify
@lech1985wawaify 5 ай бұрын
Shitty data from the start?? And you consider yourself a NERD :D How on earth could the 304, being 650m long, fit into the dock where the 303 was built? Ha'tac was 3-3.5 times larger than the Great Pyramid of Giza, which gives a maximum diameter of 800 m. And 304 was how many times smaller? If you want to rely on data from games, skip this game :D
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
the size of 650m I got was from the cgj model, and the 225 was the one I found online I just assume its the 650m cause 225m is to small but like I said in the video it's up to you to decide for yourself witch size you choose It's not like I just made them up if I was to guess a suitable size given every thing I'd wager somewhere from 300m to 500m long but again theirs conflicting information if you find the correct size from the creator please let me know
@lech1985wawaify
@lech1985wawaify 5 ай бұрын
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y And you, as a "nerd", don't know that CGI models change every season and even every episode or scene? And taking them as a basis for calculating anything is... Stupidity?? How can you explain that a 650-750 meter ship landed on a platform in Atlantis? Where the tallest building is about 850-900 meters high. And the diameter is 3.5-4 kilometers? Or how on earth two G.Ford class aircraft carriers were crammed into the dock where 303 was being built :D And another task. What were the dimensions of the USS Defiant? Because there are also cool numbers here :D From several dozen to 300+ meters. According to the CGI model and the scale of other ships. Logical gaps that cannot be explained in the plot and pure logic. Therefore, it is better to stick to the official data and not make them up.
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
​hey buddy I'm doing a video to work out the size of the 304 coming out soon I would like your take on it when it does as my workings out make the ship big and i welcome criticism to argue the size if your intreasted
@jonathanmckeage8222
@jonathanmckeage8222 5 ай бұрын
And once again they forget Korolev
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
the korolev is in the video
@ChibiHoshiDragon
@ChibiHoshiDragon 5 ай бұрын
14:20 try again
@firebirdone03
@firebirdone03 5 ай бұрын
Did anybody else notice they kind of look like a battlestar? just saying
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y 5 ай бұрын
same kinda angler shape and colours I do see it
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