BC Racing Coilover Honest Review: They suck.

Ash talks trash and some sense about the budget coilovers that came on his M5, and why he replaced them with another brand. Footage of the coilovers is after removal; they were new when installed!
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[@lstewartproductions]

These look like the “super low” versions which aren’t made for track use

[@jongandy6732]

The excessive down and up after a bump is a spring issue. And having a heavier car probably even more important. Perhaps a custom spring rate...?

[@ollie-ssx]

If you're talking about the oscillation of suspension after hitting a bump, that's the control of the shockers not the springs

[@Will_ShakesBeer]

This guy has an M5 with decals on it and a helmet so you know he's an expert on suspension ....😬

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

this had me rolling

[@SofaKingTouge]

Something doesnt add up. Those springs were tiny. Looked like no travel. He didnt say it but it almost sounds like he bought them used. So i have to conclude he doesnt know the history. Did it have swift spring, did it have digressive valving? Did he buy them off a stance boy?

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Hi, they were installed by the previous owner, so they were on the car when I bought it. I would say the car was mildly "stanced" when I got it, but I removed the spacers and set a track alignment first thing. I don't know how they were optioned from BC. I agree that the travel was too short. The rear especially would lose often contact with the pavement even though the car runs a stock rear swaybar. I believe that the video when it shows the damper (around 0:35) may look a bit shorter than in real life due to the angle of the shot, and that it was recorded with a 100mm lens, which would cause a bit of telephoto compression and make the distance between the camber plate and the spring perch look shorter than it really is. The coilovers looked like every marketing photo I've seen of the BCs though: bcracingcoilovers.com/products/95-03-bmw-5-series-e39-bc-racing-coilover-br-type

[@8145dwerdna]

@@SpectroRacingChannel The PN on the spring will tell you it's rate. They probably were swapped out.

[@dominicancash]

Spectro Racing what a clown you are , you doing reviews on some coils old as hell that came with the car that are not meant for tracking .

[@alwaysrushian1]

@@dominicancash you sound like a clown

[@joebrown4009]

@@dominicancash old or new it's still the same product so not like it really matters a good quality coilover should should always perform as if they was new.

[@amkkoo9184]

This guy made me hesitant to buy my bc coilovers but I’m glad I did because they were great all the way up to the point I sold my car. Their designed for daily driving not track driving. If you want to go on the track they got more expensive options for that, but if you’re looking for a daily drive coilovers bc entry level is a great choice

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Yeah it's something that gets lost in this vid. They are good entry level coils. But people just need to understand you get what you pay for. Your right they are terrible for racing. No one uses them in global time attack or grid life etc. Only RTR uses them in drifting, which is weird but free is free in sponsorship. That being said for the price point generally you would be better off getting a set of koni yellows and lowering springs. But if you need to get low for cheap or just need something adjustable for a cheap drift car it's not a terrible choice.

[@efini]

bc “racing”

[@snoman71]

@@SpectroRacingChannel Would you recommend these as an alternative to a stock suspension on a Scion daily driver? Un fortunately they do not manufacture complete rebuilt strut assemblies for my vehicle and the dealer wants 1500 for all the parts and to rebuild the front two strut assemblies with parts. I don't relish the idea of buying all the parts and doing it myself (spring compressors freak me out). Is this a viable bolt in alternative for my usage?

[@fluentproductions1046]

You took the words right out of my head.

[@cooperwilliams4686]

I think the main the issue people are having with all coilovers is the terminology used by the manufacturers. Having hard and soft on the damper adjusters is not good as it makes people assume they can make their suspension feel harder or softer by turning the knob. Really it should say fast or slow...or just a plus ➕ and ➖. All decent coilover manufacturers offer different spring rates in the kits. If you want your suspension harder or softer it's the springs you need to change. Then used the damper adjustment to match the springs... With a few clicks either way to fine tune. Most cars will also need different damper settings from front to back, depending on the weight distribution. Fast Bouncing is normally caused by too much damping and slow / repeat bouncing after bumps is usually too little dampening. Also with BCs people tend to not adjust the shock length according to the ride height so there is no compression of the springs when in preload so the car is left bouncing on the springs.

[@gotzvonberlichingen8588]

I drove my BC type BR for about 150.000km. I changed the setting quite often - up, down, hard, soft - with no problems. Only the springs on the front axle get shorter for about 5mm during the time of use. My current car runs also on BC.

[@jdmbren13]

Thank you for this comment!, haha , I have a Lexus sc430 and I was thinking of getting the br because I just want something verrrryyyy reliable. Doesn’t have to be sporty. It sounds like there reliable???

[@marcosbravo87]

I guessed I have to adjust the preload On this because mine were installed out of the box and I am having the same issues he had On a 98 altima

[@gollumnova4629]

*Dude BC Racing is the best for those who wants a confortable daily car, this is'nt for track 🙄* *for track you need Bilstein, KW, ohlins etc ...* *†*

[@risingsunprojectgr]

you need Ohlins............the end!

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

we agree they are not for track...they are also not for comfortable ride. They are for when you're too cheap to get anything else. The M5 has had Ground Controls for a few years now. They aren't Ohlins exactly but they are leaps and bounds better than the BCs ever were.

[@NippyMoto]

As you said the coils were installed as you bought the car. I am almost deadset sure that preload is incorrectly set which is why you would be getting that bounce. No amount of dampening is going to fix that. Most people really just throw on coilovers and they don't know anything about how to set them up. BC are serious competitors in the coilover market and make some high quality stuff with custom valving etc if you desire.

[@EdvinDzafcic]

NippyMoto 100% guy has his damping out of whack. Sadly, he has a platform and voice. To bad he is ignorant and didn’t make sure they were installed accordingly. Hate to be negative, but he just isn’t educated on the product, nor does he have his set up properly installed.

[@EdvinDzafcic]

I have these Coilovers in a 2020 Dodge Charger Scat Pack anyone around Tampa land Florida welcome to meet a car meets etc... check it out zero complaints being made here are valid for my install.

[@marcosbravo87]

I guessed I have to adjust the preload On this because mine were installed out of the box and I ama having the same issues he had On a 98 altima

[@marcosbravo87]

I guessed I have to adjust the preload On this because mine were installed out of the box and I am having the same issues he had On a 98 altima

[@B0F]

@@marcosbravo87 do they even make bc coilovers for altimas? 🤣

[@Agent_Mi]

Got a e60 m5. The car came with KW coil overs, And now recently switched over to BR coil overs. KW coil overs are meant for extreme turns and extreme menuverbility. BR coil overs are decent if you set them up correctly. the e60 body is front end heavy so your settings should be 10 front and 15 Rear. BR coil overs are only good for 12 months, you'll get 2 seasons out of them the most. KWs will last you 3 years of extreme punishments while taking turns at 180 mph.

[@Kenrickwong]

To be fair, assuming you got the "$995 version" aka the br series. They never claimed to be good for track use, the company said those are good entry level coilovers, great for daily use, and OCCASIONALLY track use. They were never designed strictly for track use, which sounds like thats what you did. At the end of the day, does BC racing suck? Maybe. But you get what you paid for, you can't just buy the most affordable ones in the market and expect them to perform like a $5000 fully customized set LOL. And for its price, it lives up to its name, its affordable, and the value is great for its price. Most importantly, sounds like you got them used. You can't really judge a product when it wasn't even at its 100 by the time you got it, because you wouldn't know how the previous owner used to use it. Maybe he was using it incorrectly the entire time, and then screw the suspension up, and thats why he decided to sell em, and it got to your hands, and to be fair, doesn't sound like you know too much about suspensions either LMAO.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

suspensions are like suspenders right?

[@tacotuesday4496]

@@SpectroRacingChannel lol what if u responded to the critque thatd be crazy

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Grant filling in here [not the one in the vid] Ive driven a bunch of different cars with BCs. All the BC's from this era have been bouncy garbage. They may have gotten better recently however but i havent tested that. If you want real proof just go to any time attack series and see if anyone runs BC coils, they dont. The only official team i know of off hand is the Chelsea from RTR and they drift. That all being said they are decent budget coils which this vid does say. We would recommend Koni Yellows and a matched Spring set though.

[@Superb_Owl80]

@@SpectroRacingChannel y’all act like you spend 100% of your driving time on the track. I’d take good daily driver manners ANY day. Get a track only car, and THEN your complaints would be valid. Until then, you’re just another bullshit KZbinr putting out garbage 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bmwe-op4jx]

Are they installed correctly ? Because i run them and they are amazing

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

no I ran them for over a year installed wrong just for fun. they were just so amazing that I kept blacking out from all the grip my car generated. So i installed them wrong to make them worse and then made this video

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

what other dampers have you used besides these?

[@bmwe-op4jx]

@@SpectroRacingChannel Kw and Bilstein

[@noddylloyd]

@@bmwe-op4jx mic drop 👊 🎤 😆

[@tuned4life]

@@bmwe-op4jx OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and spectro left the chat xD

[@cooperwilliams4686]

Nothing wrong with the product as usual... Just the user.

[@just.for.the.downshifts]

So what did the user do wrong?

[@SkidsnTea]

copium

[@luisrobledo9759]

I’ve seen them snap on an frs with normal driving lol

[@cammgt3rs370]

I was in the same situation with my past 2012 Camaro SS and BC racing BR series coilovers as well. Felt way under damped.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Thanks for sharing. I think heavier cars can really overwhelm them. My E39 is a full 4,000 lbs. I recently rode in a mk4 supra that had them and it was likewise pretty unbearable.

[@fushou.3059]

sound like you got screwed over. Myself and many others love them on our Subaru’s.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

I think they probably work a lot better on lighter cars. The M5 weighs 4,000 lbs and they had a real hard time controlling the motion of all that mass.

[@LC-qp7pr]

You've got something wrong with your set of BC coilovers. Kinda lame to bash on them in general when you just had some bad luck and got a bad set.

[@autoxbrz5651]

The guy I sold my BRZ to took off my Bilstein/Racecomp Engineering suspension for BC coilovers because he needed "Moar Low!" I died a little inside.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

AutoX BRZ I hope his money was worth it 😢

[@Moze69]

Why he did that? Why you by brz?

[@eknapp70]

I bought some ISC coilovers because a reliable person said they were the same as the BC coilovers. I was coming from a lowering spring setup with 140k miles on it. I’ll say that for track and autocross they have been just fine. On the street the ISCs are bouncy pieces of crap and anyone on cheap coilovers who likes them on the street is also on dangerous levels of COPIUM. I picked up some proper Bilstein b16s and fresh OEM rubber top mounts. Best advice for coilovers is, stay stock until you can get the right ones!

[@OdedraPerformance]

Hi, the "Koni reds" you've mentioned in some of the comments - are they the so named "special active damper" variant? They're definitely very red in colour(!). Which bilstein variant is equivalent, B6? Any preference between the two? Finally - Any particular preference for lowering spring manufacturer? Application; primarily a daily commuter /fast road setup. I've got some absolutely horrendous budget coilovers on temporarily that would make the BC Racing setup appear Godly.. thanks!

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

I have only used the koni yellows which are rebound adjustable. I don't have any experience with the red or the actives (which are orange?) I also haven't run the bilsteins

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Lowering spring I like h&r and eibach but I am sure plenty of good ones are out there.

[@OdedraPerformance]

@@SpectroRacingChannel how do you find the Koni yellow compared to the cheaper BC coilovers? Say in day to day use compared, and then in track use? Just to try get idea of how they differ..

[@qleap99]

I have some experience with Koni yellows, Bilstein HD's (B6) and Bilstein Sports (B8). Koni yellows are a twin tube design with adjustable rebound control. The Bilsteins are monotube and non-adjustable. Being twin tube, the Konis ride a little softer over low speed bumps than the Bilsteins and soft over high speed bumps. With the ability to adjust rebound damping, you can adjust how hard/quickly or slow/softly the car drops down from a bump or swell. They have pretty good motion control with mildly sporty springs. The Bilstein B6 are designed to be used with OEM springs, not lowering springs. The B8 are designed for lowering, sports springs. Both are more responsive to low speed bumps than Konis (i.e. firmer feel; you feel the road, but without harshness) but soft on high speed bumps (this is due to their _digressive valving_ ). Like the Konis, the B6 has okay motion control on mildly sporty springs but isn't really meant for lowered use. The B8 have very good motion control on sports springs. The bilsteins are not adjustable but due to their digressive valving, their response is firm and sporty over low speed bumps and becomes softer over high speed bumps, all automatically. I look at not having to fiddle with them as a bonus. I prefer the sportier feel of monotube dampers, so I prefer Bilstein. If the B8 is available for the application that would be my preference. If you prefer a slightly more isolated ride (a tad more numb in my opinion 😉), Koni yellow would be the choice.

[@limitlesscombo6998]

Is your car as dropped now as it was in the video? Haven't had great exp with coilovers that low in general

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

agreed; it was eventually raised on the ground controls. the roll center sucks when it's too low

[@robertwest4299]

I was honestly looking at the BC racing DS series of coil overs for my daily that hauls kids and a wife because I like to hit the twisty backroads on the weekend. Finding another Floridian review helped because we drive the same streets. So you think for the weekend twists or an occasional track day I’d be better off with eibach springs on new OEM struts with sway bars and strut tower brace?

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

I think the DS are probably way nicer than the BR and it would be unfair to cast judgment on them without having driven them. Lowering springs like eibachs or h&r on an adjustable damper like a koni sport is the best bang for the buck in my opinion. If you do go BC i recommend the swift spring upgrade and stay away from the extreme low setup. Also consider the custom valved Redshift BC coilovers if you'll see a lot of track time.

[@robertwest4299]

@@SpectroRacingChannel wow. Thanks for the in-depth, informative response!

[@robertwest4299]

@@SpectroRacingChannel do you trust Tein? I was also looking at the Tein endura plus pro adjustable struts paired with eibach.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

@@robertwest4299 I don't have any direct experience with Tein so I can't really make a judgment call there

[@Gunzla33]

@@SpectroRacingChannel My mechanic Bought a set of BCs for his track car as that all that were available at the time, (dont think he even had much time to dial the in) as he too told me not to bu BC as they are stiff and unless i wanted to wear a kidny brace go 4 something else. Thing is i had the preiviliage to go in a car exactly like mine for a test run and liked how they felt. Long story short i bought BC ER models with remote resivours and they are the best coilover ive driven in so far. I had koni adjustables in my GTR33 which ended up dying so i put a set of HSD which where honestly not bad. My GTsT had tein which were are as a rock. I have yet to setup the rebound or compression of the shocks so im sure i can get even more tuning out of them. TBH, i never would have gone with the entry level coilovers.

[@millermatic140]

🤔those springs looked too small. Were they cut? Lol im currently in the market for BC coilovers and the first video i see is this lol

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

they were not cut; that's what they look like: bcracingcoilovers.com/products/95-03-bmw-5-series-e39-bc-racing-coilover-br-type

[@DriftHappy]

Spectro Racing that’s not the bc website, it’s Bcracing-na.com

[@marcosbravo87]

I guessed I have to adjust the preload On this because mine were installed out of the box and I am having the same issues he had On a 98 altima

[@jtbcanes26]

I figured they were mostly just stiffer. I am building an e46 for the track and I think i want to do the tc Kline double adjustables. What do you think? Did you ever change yours?

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

tc kline is koni based? I had tc kline konis on my e46 with stock springs. Having the adjustment knob on the top of the rear shocks was amazing. Way better than having to unbolt them like some rear konis are. In general tc kline is legit! I got Ground Controls to replace the BCs; I have a ton of track days and about 20k miles on them and I love them. Huge improvement over the BC in every way. The camber plates in particular are quieter and have way more camber and caster adjustment.

[@jtbcanes26]

@@SpectroRacingChannel that’s good numbers considering the ground controls are much cheaper. The tc klines are w koni and well reviewed. They suggest 400F/500R. I’m pretty sure the knobs are on top I would hope so. Have you had to reinforce your subframe?

[@alexsalicrup5673]

On a 3500lb car that is over 20 years old. They could be amazing coilovers but your bushing, sway bars and other suspension comments could be crap. Never had an issue on my e90 plus it looked like you had the super low which are for stance nation people

[@kapucakapuca]

They are good for looks, but the performance is week. I bought them and also replaced most of the stuff under the car, so it will feel "like new". Its a daily car which came from factory with sport suspension. BCs came with spring rates same as OEM. The fronts are good - no complaint there. The rears are crashy at low speed and bouncy at higher speed during cornering. Also after a speed bump it bounces too much. No real soaking happening there.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

FYI I have the receipt from Enjuku racing. The coilovers were bought by the previous owner on July 27 2016, which is 7 months before I bought the car.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

@Joseph C. well I didn't own the car when they were put on. I have since replaced them with Ground Controls and I've shot some video I need to finish to talk about the differences between the BCs and the Ground Controls, which I've been much happier with

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

@Joseph C. they're not improperly installed just because none of the stancenation fanbois in the KZbin comments can believe that someone else didn't jump on their BC bandwagon. There's no evidence that they are installed wrong; they weren't tampered with and the springs on the car are the springs they were delivered with. They were preloaded per the BC instructions. They do just fine- for what they cost. Which is to say they perform half as well as a truly good coilover system.

[@jsautosolutions]

As your vehicle is heavier than 90% of everything else on the track, for better thermal performance you should look at the BC series that feature external reservoirs.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

While that's good advice, the key here is they are still crap dampers. Go check out what folks run in global time attack or NASA time trials if you guys dont believe us. You get laughed at for running these in anything outside of chump or lemons. That being said as ash said in the video they aren't to terrible for what they are the price range. I would just rather have a set of Konis at that price range

[@jsautosolutions]

@@SpectroRacingChannel Based on the boat in question I figured they were suitable haha. Yes that is correct, we mostly only run ohlins over here in the WTC. It is the goto brand for FSAE.

[@BraboPaul1]

Im using BC Racing coilovers and they are great.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

they are great compared to blown out shocks with cut springs

[@sr20dett1000]

I doubt they are great. Stiff doesn't mean performance. The spring rates are terrible for both e46 and e90. I think they offer the same spring rates. What works for the e46 is not going to work for e90. I'm not just bashing on bc and their spring rates choice that creates pitch and gets rid of flat ride. Other coilovers also do this even bilstein pss(b14), TC kline and Ground Control. The spring rates they offer creat pitch which is terrible for the street.

[@BraboPaul1]

@@sr20dett1000 I dont have an e46 nor an e90 and i have still my bcracing coils under my Scirocco,and i still dont have any problems with them 😁.

[@sr20dett1000]

@@BraboPaul1 it's not just bc. I name some good brands expensive brand that if I were to ask what to get in the e46, e90 community the answer would be kw, ground control. I've looked at the springs rates and it creates pitch. Not good for street. I would go with fortune auto only because I can choose springs rates. These are the springs rates a would choose for the e46(5kg front gives me a 1.7 hertz frequency and 11k rear a 1.9 hertz frequency) for flat ride, e90 (5kg front for 1.7 hertz frequency 14kg rear for a 1.9 hertz frequency). Over 2 hertz is racing frequency. I don't know the info for your car. If you ever get a e46, e90 their you go. Or recommend those to a friend that has those cars.

[@BraboPaul1]

@@sr20dett1000 but if you talk about KW,you also talk about a complete different price level.

[@DJSickey]

Price is about 1.2-1.3k USD, so I wouldn't really call them cheap (BC V1-VA coilovers)... Sure there are more expensive, but given that my car's worth is 1k, giving double the amount for "good" coilovers (even same amount just for coiovers), kinda sounds nuts... Might go simply for sports springs and thats it, at least that can be found for 250 USD.

[@chriswebb5821]

Mine are absolutely wonderful on my e90. I’m tucking slightly and they’re not bouncy at all. A bit stiff but I prefer that way. I had them set softer originally and they were almost stock ride quality. Maybe you need to set your preload, bad preload will completely fuck the ride. Also 12f-10r seems to be good settings for bmw 3 series. Less body roll without being too stiff for comfort. Rides similar to sport suspension at those numbers. Currently I’m at 14-12 cuz I don’t mind the bit of extra stiffness.

[@heatchamps2011]

What are your damper settings ?

[@chriswebb5821]

heatchamps2011 14-12 f/r but before I was 12/10 and it was pretty comfy.

[@heatchamps2011]

Chris Webb i changed my tires and the same settings i had dont feel the same than with run flats . So now im tweaking it again. Cant find the sweet spot now

[@chriswebb5821]

heatchamps2011 watch how to set your preload tutorial box has and try that. Might not be set properly in which case you’re never gonna get it feeling right. Also I loosened and retightened all the suspension bushings. Helps to recenter them after lowering. Just be aware when you do that you’ll need an alignment and to keep the weight of the car on he tires when you do it.

[@heatchamps2011]

Chris Webb how low are u? Im maxed out in the front on extreme lows lol . Think im gonna raise it a bit

[@LiquidPlatinum12]

Where do you track here in Jax,fl? I been wanting to take my e30 out on a test drive and a great coilover to have for both on and off the track

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

our local testing is done at the Florida International Rally and Motorsports Park gorally.com/ We also autocross at Amelia Island on the air strip

[@marcosbravo87]

I guessed I have to adjust the preload On this because mine were installed out of the box and I am having the same issues he had On a 98 altima

[@KP-wz3ut]

BC stands for Bor-Chuann read up a little bit on the design of the coilover before you start trashing them. If you don't set them up properly you will be bouncing all over the road and make yourself carsick driving.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

We believe the much better versions.. may be better.. but these are far from good.

[@bruce_son]

the shocks suck and the adjusters suck. They use a simulatenous damping with an insane amount of compression so you "feel" something or it feels stiff and good.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

plz leave comments here about how they r da best u ever seent, even better than Racelands or the cut springs on your bros 1000hp civic

[@grantwhite3044]

lmao

[@brandonhan8296]

I don't have any problem like that with BR series, don't use BC for real racing application, go KW.

[@motorgarage7604]

Your review is invalid. Buy them new and do an actual review. Your review is based on a used set.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

They had about 1k miles on them when I bought the car. They were all but brand new. Do you replace your suspension every 1000 miles?

[@alwaysrushian1]

your comment makes no sense - if a suspension is bad after 1k miles then obviously the brand must suck.. thanks for proving his point lmao

[@ebaycraigs5004]

Reading the comments from many satisfied users, the BCs are good coils and this "reviewer" sucks 😂

[@daltonnewbold5874]

Sounds like wrong spring rates to me. Cuz they are custom spring rates.

[@sergiocamacho6835]

What set up would you recommend for street use ??? I want a small drop but also good comfort

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

koni dampers with lowering springs, or Ground Control coilovers with the street/school spring rates

[@Komunalaren]

i got bc br racing on my volvo s60 and i love it

[@samsonn25]

A weak point is their rubber top strut mounts, they seem to last only about 6-7k miles

[@Joshuamiro]

so you bought the vehicle with BC's bottom line coilovers and expect them to be track perfect or wait pothole proof?? BC also have other lines of coilovers for other "advocates" such as yourself with better performance just like almost any other coilover company with some sense to make money and please all at the same time. just saying!

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

At half the price of a good coilover, I expected them to be at best half as good as a high-quality coilover. I feel like that was about right. The Ground Control coilovers that replaced these are at least twice as good ride quality and handling. The thumbnail says "BR Series" because that's the model I reviewed. It's also the model that is by far the most popular. I haven't tested any other BC model but I wouldn't be inclined to based on the experience I had with these.

[@boboutelama5748]

I fear to ask. But what would the KZbin community recommend as good alternative for the Lexus IS300 Mk1 (Toyota Altezza) ? Personnaly, and with the knowledge I have now, I tend to go in direction of the Tein Mono Sport coils. K&W V3 would be my favourite, but the 1000$ flex to go for them is too much. So, do you know if the Tein Mono Sport is a good alternative in the market for the IS300 ?

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

sorry no experience with the Tein. Can't go wrong with KW, Ground Control, Bilstein etc. Maybe get some konis and lowering springs? Ride height will still be low (but not adjustable) and it's a lot cheaper than most good coilovers.

[@suricateenerve165]

So you drive them used, can't properly set them and said they suck while a lot of guys using br series and are satisfied. Funny cause I bought them and I can't see why you could say the suck. I just can't. You r arguments are inexistant and clearly if you can't set one way coilover just stay stock.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

The whole car that they were already installed on was used so...yes. What suspension system did you replace with the BR series you installed? Did you see improvements in lap times versus what you had? Have you tried any other brands? Have your satisfied guy friends tried any other brand of coilover?

[@suricateenerve165]

@@SpectroRacingChannel i made them set by a pro wich did tune many over cars for the nurb. they work fine. i had kw clubsport on my old megane rs, and i did the same with the same guy. the kw are more 'noble' on bumpy road, cause you can adjust the rebound alone. (they cost 2400 euros, so yeah they r better, but thats not an another world as you might think. On the bc (1080 euros), you can't ajust the rebound wich is link with the hardness, but you can adjust the spring compression wich is good. with good a good set up its fine. im 20 click on front, 18 on the rear, 1.40 camber each side, and set the spring 'soft' cause im not using it only on track. and it work great. for the price, i can't find something better than this, oh yeah i can, kw v1 wich cost 500 more for the same ending. i didn't go to te track since i put them. its been 1 week. but im pretty sure i can grab times or at least more confidence than the old ones. for track ill go for 25 - 23 click i guess and 2°camber. and it depend of the spring too, i took the 7kg/4kg. soft for track, but for my daily i dont mind. sure you can find some better set for $$$$, nitron r1, ohlins, kw competition, but the br serie are bargain. and im sad in europe there is no the 'pro 2 way' for my car cause its probably really good. The only equivalent is the Bilstein b14, can't adjust anything other than the heigh, and its not better than OEM.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

@@suricateenerve165 You're right about there not being a whole lot of other coilover in that price range; there isn't much else because it's really hard to make a good coilover for that cheap. I'd rather have a good, fresh, stock damper on a lowering spring for the cost of a BC coilover set. And if I really wanted coilovers, I'd rather pay the extra bit for a good set like Ground Control, Ohlins, Bilstein etc. I think the BC is a bad in-between where, yes they are coilovers, and yes they are adjustable, but they don't do road driving as well as stock dampers, and they don't do track driving as well as good coilovers. The ground controls I replaced the BCs with have so many more features- they can fit wider wheels/tires, they are caster-adjustable, they have longer droop travel, and they can do almost four degrees of camber in the front versus the BC only being able to do about 2.8.

[@rampage3337]

not only do they work but they are literaly pro racing coils. they are used in pro events all the time so that kind of proves theyr worth

[@alwaysrushian1]

@@rampage3337 that proves nothing, it proves they pay sponsorships so people run their shit product

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

BC BR coilovers are the generic grocery store brand soda of suspensions. I too would think that Dr. Thunder tasted pretty good if I had never had Dr. Pepper before. But once you've had the real thing, you can never go back.

[@AndrewB23]

You probably have a shop set up your suspension for you instead of learning yourself.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

@@AndrewB23 you *definitely* are incorrect but thanks anyways for your insightful comment

[@jinxtacy]

What's wrong with having a shop that specializes in setting up the suspension and is knowledgable about the platform and has tools that you don't at home do a better job than you can or care to do? You can also learn through discourse and observation. Perhaps an issue with his BC Racing experience actually was set up, because some guy "learned himself." I ripped the KSports out of the 240SX I purchased within the first week of owning them. I've heard mixed reviews about BC racing, but each application is different and they have multiple lines, and then there's the issue of variance in the consistency of production (I've seen on shock dynos where to equalize the two were two clicks a part. To be fair I've seen Koni yellows have variance as well and the changes between 1-2 and 4-5 were very narrow, but 2-3-4 had a more significant change). Some people are more tolerant of higher ride frequencies or suspensions that jack down. Also, for people that actually go to the track that do hop the curbing will have different needs. Suspensions are actually really interesting and a ton of measuring, data gathering, planning, theorizing, and sometimes you still get it wrong and have to go back and adjust and play with things. You'll get there a lot faster taking the consultation from people with more experience. Sometimes you just have to know that there are people out there that have the wits and experience that you can't match. You can try and learn which will probably wind up with many mistakes, but in the end you hopefully gain experience and knowledge. I have a network of friends and we have some people that are great at wiring, others are great at tuning, CNC, fabrication, welding cages, tire experts, tinters, detailers, painters, vinyl wrappers, etc. Some of them can do most of those things okay, but will acknowledge that they could get someone better for a specific job. It's a fun thing about the hobby meeting people that can do certain things really well and learning. Then go hang out with race teams. Many of those drivers are okay with a wrench, and a lot of wrenches are mediocre drivers on track. It's okay. It's the sad part about the culture of car people though. It's littered with insecurity and fragile egos. I'd hope we could all just have fun with it.

[@ScootersMum1]

i've had multiple people; mechanics (for 40+ years) who do professional and amature racing, friends, street racers, tafe peeps, etc. They all say the same thing. BC coilovers suck compared to the real thing. Sure, they're better than 10 year old stock suspension, but if you wanna keep your spine and have real coilovers that last, spend more on a real brand.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

hi scooters mum, thanks!

[@andrewj.3101]

Oh yeah? So what's a real brand?

[@sr20dett1000]

I would disagree on dampers and spring combo. Most aftermarket springs don't even disclose springs rates.

[@hotrod426]

This pretty much describes the foresters ride quality to a T

[@willycal100]

Bc coilovers suck ass I have them on my 10th gen accord Shock collars in the rear always get loose for some reason and start making noise

[@Getyourdoe]

What spring rating did u go with, did u get the swift spring ?

[@willycal100]

@@Getyourdoe no Swift springs .. I also took care of the problem with the collars on the shock by using a flat head screwdriver and hammer to tighten them up haven’t had a problem since. I guess everyone has a different opinion on the bc coilovers I was mad at first but now I’m enjoying them once I took care of that annoying clunking noise lol

[@Getyourdoe]

@@willycal100 The more I research reviews, it seems like a mixed bowl of nuts, there's no definitive answer for me to justify buying em thus far.

[@riciardoverbeek]

Ive had a bc set installed on my wrx sti. They were really good. so i installed them on my mustang s197... Ive them for 3 years en cant find a good spot with them. Its very stiff but weak the same time. Got 4 companies who checked it out and cant find the issue or problem. So as soon i saved what money im gonna find a better brand. unfortunately

[@infernolt7622]

So, when you say they suck, you're talking for the track? What about everyday driver?

[@alwaysrushian1]

they suck.

[@JS-bk5hm]

He said 'Bad Chinese coil overs' lol. But it Sounds like you have never driven a lowered car. O.o

[@alwaysrushian1]

get moar low

[@marcosbravo87]

I guessed I have to adjust the preload On this because mine were installed out of the box and I am having the same issues he had On a 98 altima

[@rholt7551]

BR is an entry level coilover, what did you think you were going to get? People definitely want everything for nothing.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

I agree I never would have bought these; that was the car's previous owner's decision. I upgraded to Ground Control which are twice the price but worth it. The point of this video is that there are a ton of BC fanbois out there that act like BC is as good as it gets; compared to blown stock shocks or ebay coilovers, BC is like the Penske of the Shitbox world. Doesn't change the fact that they suck compared to Ground Control, KW, Bilstein, Motion Control, MCS, Ohlins, etc etc

[@kyleveach3238]

Sorry dude, you're straight up wrong. BC makes great coilovers, especially with the Swift springs. I think you may have had some poorly set up spring rates or shot shocks.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

I mean they were a whole 6 months old. I guess that's as long as they last. Also if the Swift springs are so great, why does BC sell them with anything else?

[@kyleveach3238]

@@SpectroRacingChannel Had mine a year, no problems, buddy has had his 3 years, no problems, not even a rebuild. First hand experience > someone who bought some used parts and drove on em for a week.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

They were bought new from Enjuku Racing. The previous owner drove them for 7 months before selling the car to me. I drove on them, street and track days, a full *year* before I gave up on them and installed Ground Controls. But you and your buddy aint had no issues is the gold standard of internet quality. Next review I do, I'll just record myself saying that.

[@alwaysrushian1]

LOL the coolaid in here is nuts

[@vanhanliiton7232]

How can you know how the previous owner drive it lol

[@kanaric]

bc br with pillowball top mounts are decent. great autocross coilover especially for cars nobody makes shit for like the Z31.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

I will give BC credit that they make a lot of obscure fitments that no one else offers

[@JT-nb5ud]

I have bc br series on my car. I daily it. They’re good budget coilovers. They do Improve the performance, but far from the best. If you need shocks, and want to upgrade, BC is great. If you are on a racetrack and looking for extreme performance, most definitely not the best option. You need a bike, you buy a huffy. You need a bike for the Tour de France, most definitely don’t buy a huffy. 🤣 Simple as that.

[@candidcapture]

Ya don't know brake squeal till you run Carbotech without bed in. Great pads tho.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

I rate this comment SKREEEEEEEEE

[@KP-wz3ut]

They have been set up wrong!!

[@chrisbromley673]

came with car, spec and range not stated, how are you to know whether the appropriate spring rate was selected, which "should" come with a damper range suitable for that spring rate... i say should because BC dont declare the the damping ratio in there systems to know if critical damping is even achievable. That said, you should not be looking to be critically damped in a non-downforce road car at all, 50-70% of critical should be ample damping for track use. Putting out a review vid with such a lack of info and then claiming they suck is not fair on the manufacturer or your viewers.

[@heatchamps2011]

. I got the extreme lows with 16 k front and 18 k rear. On my e92. Love them

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

you're braver than me, good sir

[@heatchamps2011]

Spectro Racing i do agree these coils are more for street use . Also if you wanna be really low. I got these because i was on a budget and they have more value then the kw1 . Imo .

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

hard to argue with their price point, for sure

[@2vgod460]

I sold mine a week in lol, I now purchased kw competition build, the kit costed me more then what the car was purchased for lol, but they are custom built to order to how you want kinds deal so I got ones that have double adjustability , told them what I wanted and ride quality I wanted and they banged it out the park my car had zero bounce at all I have a ride far more superior to high end strut spring combo!! They are like v3 on steroids lol v5 kit

[@justincasiere9598]

You can do this with bc aswell. I love them.for.my application.

[@thenegus5469]

Yeah like Justin said you can literally do the same BC. On par quality with kw.

[@beyondthelol]

what was the issues you were having on the bcs?

[@2vgod460]

@@beyondthelol the bounce

[@beyondthelol]

@@2vgod460 did you have the default spring rates or was it custom?

[@flee78]

you got ripped off

[@raydarnguen]

This guy is an expert

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Expert Level is over 9000

[@WarrenSheehan]

At what? It's not coilovers 😂

[@FSRuziel]

What about for daily driving no track use

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

I'd definitely stay away unless you really had to be super low. They're bouncy on the street. A koni red or bilstein damper with a lowering spring would be my go-to for a lowered street ride on a budget.

[@marcosbravo87]

I guessed I have to adjust the preload On this because mine were installed out of the box and I am having the same issues he had On a 98 altima

[@Sliderman416]

Bro you bought a car with blown bc coilovers and did a review on them 😂 Beamer boys with no money how pitiful

[@Sliderman416]

And called it honest gtfo 😭

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Hi Raheem. If the BCs blew within 7 months of purchase (I have the receipt from the previous owner of the car, purchased from Enjuku), then I guess no review is required by me, and they are shit! But I'm going to stick with my current narrative, which is that they aren't "blown," but simply inappropriately designed for adequate chassis control in any environment beyond a parking lot. Especially on a heavy car like an E39. I'm just gonna go back to being poor now I guess, you know, like we engineers tend to be. Since you are so wealthy, please send me a brand new set of BCs that you have personally inspected to not be blown, and I'll install them and test them again. Just for you!

[@Sliderman416]

Are you sure you want to see my bc coilovers on my 2017 Infiniti q50s, or how about my g37s I park them beside my two super sport bikes. Your an engineer? Great 👍 I work with the stars on movie sets. Just let me know if you really want to see. I’m starting a channel called sliderman where you can see what I’m all about. Your e39 May out perform my winter beater Dodge Avenger....maybe

[@Sliderman416]

I will do the video for where I disassemble the coilovers show you they are not blown I will reinstall them I have a used set and a new set I can use

[@alwaysrushian1]

@@Sliderman416 no on believes you

[@future62]

I guarantee the majority of people who hate this review a) never take their cars to the track b) don't know anything about damper design and b) are BC Racing coilover owners who say shit like "why buy Ohlins when BC Racing is half the price" If you just want something that will slam your car and be OK for C&C and parking at your college parking lot BC Racing is good. But coilovers designed for real track use need to be better. This is why the ZR coilvers- the only BC coilovers I see in actual motorsport- cost $2800

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

thank you thank you thank you

[@alwaysrushian1]

you are the real MVP

[@thenegus5469]

Funny thing is this particular line of coilovers wasn’t even meant for heavy track use. So your statement is now pointless. I’m willing to bet he also didn’t take into account the spring rate either

[@fasthracing]

Are you Sebastion Vettel?

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Nope but we have tried these on a few cars actually and they have all been mediocre. It's not to hard to tell the difference even at an amature or grassroots level. Go look at global time attack or NASA TT, noone uses these. They are good for drift and being low, or maybe like chump/lemons. For the price range your better off with konis and lowering springs.

[@fasthracing]

@@SpectroRacingChannel I meant you look bit like him

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Oh lol. Yeah ash looks like a dbag in this vid haha(this is grant commenting). So I guess thanks? I think ash secretly likes the hate from this video. We certainly touched on an evidently touchy subject lol

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

@@fasthracing hi this is Sebastian and yes it is me, obviously

[@RobertEpsteinYT]

Do you know what spring rates???

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

8k and 10k

[@hondafanic0203]

I feel like u should went with the 18k spring rate for track use cause 8k-10k isn’t for track use I think u got a street version n wanted to do well on the track it doesn’t work like that I’m not making excuses or anything

[@terryfair107]

Solid review - BC coilovers very much fall into the "get what you pay for" realm. The are popular with the stance and drift bois, but suck as an actual damper. (Points for never using the word "dampener" in this video! )

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

thanks for the comment. "you get what you pay for" probably would have been a nicer way for me to say it 😅

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

also, yes a lot of these fan bois get dampened in the pants

[@kylemortensen2593]

Custom spring rates stupid!!!

[@alwaysrushian1]

stupid spring rates custom!!!! are we just shouting dumb things or?

[@TheTexican05]

One variable nobody ever discusses on coil overs, especially BCs, is the need to set proper preload during installation. Failure to set sufficient preload front and rear can lead to a more bouncy and unsettled suspension feel. Running hugger than normal spring rates can also create issues. BC Quality Control on their actual springs could be better, there are lots of write ups in test confirming this. It’s why the Swift spring upgrade is so transformative for ride quality and comfort with zero loss of lateral control (body motion). Speaking this info as a career auto worker of 21 years, who has been installing and calibrating coil overs since 2011… If you give me a set of BCs with the correct spring rates for a car, I can dial it in to ride well on the street and handle track work with just a turn of the knobs. Are there better coilovers? Absolutely. But for the $1200 they currently charge, with adjustable camber mounts and Koyo bearings up top, they’re very good for most street and track projects. Sharing this to help the viewers. I believe the OP. Every BC car that’s come to my shop ride like @$$ before I went through and calibrated it correctly. Unrecognizable after.

[@r.k862]

Hey man, if I buy the cheapest bc coilovers and take it to a pro to set it up for my 370z will it give me more comfortable ride than the swift springs if we are talking about same height?

[@raydm4015]

Springrate is wayyyy to low. Thats your problem mister expert...

[@XboxUnitD77]

Used set. Supposedly new"er". One bad track surface later your done with them? Because you didn't provide any other evidence how should I know that maybe the rest of your setup is poor, are you all poly or stock rubber? How low did you go? Did you change preload? How are you complaining about ride quality over bumps when set to stiff settings? you dont get both comfort and performance, that's the trade off. The road was bad, so how much of the wobble is the road, how much is the suspension? Also side note: how should I take your opinion seriously when you drive endurance pads on the street? TLDR of the video is, the were bad on bad surface so boo.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Thanks for the feedback. BC seems to have a very passionate following. I drove Road Atlanta and FIRM with the BCs and then with the Ground Controls. I tried for a full year to get the BCs dialed in before bailing on them for the Ground Controls. I checked preload using the procedure provided by BC. I've used koni sports on pretty much every car I've ever owned for the last decade, so I am familiar with tuning dampers. I'm a licensed professional engineer so I am also familiar with the physics behind spring-mass-damper systems, critical damping, etc. I have replaced nearly every single piece of rubber in the car with with OE or OEM parts. I ran the same ride height for both the BC and the Ground Control setups, which is not tucked but basically zero gap between the tire and the fender. I don't always have time to change the pads back between a track day that I get home late from, and the drive to work the next morning. Especially if I have back-to-back events and I won't drive the M5 every week day in between, I won't bother swapping the pads back to the street ones. In the ~ 1 year I drove on the BCs they were tolerable at best over several thousand miles on the street and track. In the ~1 year I've had Ground Controls, I have done a ton of driving including 10k miles in one week for One Lap of America and they were a dream the whole time, on the highway and on the track. My car is simply a test bed, and it's a pretty representative one for BC's market: a dual-purpose machine that is mildly modified. It was a pretty simple A/B test with nothing else changed between the BCs and the Ground Controls. They are about half as good as the Koni-based Ground Controls, which is why they cost half as much. I would love to see some links to other A/B performance tests people have done on a single car, and what their results were.

[@scottmcmurry3823]

Anyone who says you don't get comfort and performance in the same product has never owned a good set of coilovers/shocks. You get what you pay for, and you don't get performance or comfort for $1000.

[@damonleeb]

“Bro my coilovers feel stiffer than stock idk why man”

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

look at me out here getting schooled on spring-mass-damper systems by an actual ball of meat

[@alwaysrushian1]

@@SpectroRacingChannel balls of meat know a TON about physics

[@richardtavarez4565]

U so good wow u got a old m5 u got to chill

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

no chilling here; we drive flat out

[@oclaothug69]

Lol 😆 your the first guy that I see on KZbin giving these coilovers a bad review, I think the previous owner messed with the pre-load.

[@dominicancash]

I Play 2 Win Truth Seeker guy is a clown, them coilovers looked like there ware 15 years old same as the car .

[@oclaothug69]

@@dominicancash LoL 😂

[@anthonyrollins478]

Yea those bc where already clapped out

[@eriksiddons4730]

Because bc pays everyone to say their entry level Chinese built coils are better than everything else

[@oclaothug69]

@@eriksiddons4730 how is it Chinese when it base out of Canada and the USA ? LMAO 🤣

[@mtwdew45]

My dude it’s called you didn’t get a good spring rate 🤣🤣

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

no it's called crappy damping. Pretty much everyone has been using the spring rate these had for coilovers on E39s for twenty years. Why does everyone love making excuses for these crap BCs?

[@Yiffin84]

@@SpectroRacingChannel because your full of shit

[@alwaysrushian1]

@@Yiffin84 sounds like your shit is full

[@Petelecaster]

What spring rate did you get? And those springs have like 3 turns lol.

[@thenegus5469]

@@Petelecaster he doesn’t know because he got them that way. He’s a fucking clown

[@NoNoRc]

Who hurt you ?

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

my spine was injured by BC

[@NoNoRc]

😂

[@robbym3542]

Preload needs to be adjusted

[@alwaysrushian1]

it's always about the load

[@bsg2923]

I had these on two of my cars after hearing people rant and rave about them. THEY ARE T.R.A.S.H. ... Absolute garbage. The ride quality was horrible, as he said in the video you hit a tiny bump and it breaks your neck, then on the same settings in the corners it feels like you're driving a caddy. They are an absolute waste of money. Anyone considering them, please don't listen to the people who bought them and are trying to make themselves feel better by telling everyone they're good. You could do much better for less with quality aftermarket springs and struts if you cant afford a quality set of coilovers.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

They are really good compared to blown shocks and cut springs. They just aren't any good compared to anything else. The guys over at Redshift Competition / Standard Suspension do a great job revalving them so that they actually are a good option for only a bit more money.

[@kikojonesfrank4076]

Same problem with my BC suspension

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

thank you...a lot of people out here bouncing along drinking the BC kool-aid

[@fire-cloud]

are any of you scorpios.....

[@anthonye3680]

Listen to this guy in video, do it right skip the BC junk ,. If your just into lowrider looks and are flushed and crazy camber and you a fuck boy, get BC if you actually drive hard or track skip the garbage.

[@derekwalcott7349]

BC Racing Coilovers are for " non drivers" :)

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

agreed. They look cool but that's about it

[@placeholdername3206]

BC is decent coilovers, but they are chinese coilovers in fancy boxes. No better than $500 ebay coilovers. They pay a lot of money to have BC RACING on the side of Formula D cars, and have KZbinrs talk about them. No one serious about racing runs BC's.

[@LB83.]

Im gonna buy yellow koni kit 👊

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

Great choice!! Konis are what's on the M5 now (that's what Ground Control coilovers are based on) and we just replaced the GTI's raceland coilovers with konis and H&R springs as well

[@LB83.]

@@SpectroRacingChannel i had yellow koni on my escort rs turbo just 👌 now gonna buy them again for my ford mondeo😉

[@kylemortensen2593]

You guys are on crack... konis bottom out

[@alwaysrushian1]

@@kylemortensen2593 gotta stay lit Kyle

[@micheal1795]

Lol this guys got no idea, maybe give your mum back her car, BCs work mint in my E30 Also this setup sounds incorrectly set no the bcs Your driving a boat you need KWs simple

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

og fr fr ratio

[@Luckye-pm9id]

sounds like they were used up when you gottem

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

I have the receipt from the previous owner. They were only about 6 months old. I guess that's as long as they last

[@Yiffin84]

@@SpectroRacingChannel you said 7 months in another comment...do you tell the truth about anything?? i go through these comments and just see you talking more and more bullshit

[@racevedo29]

Kw are the way to go can't beat German engineering

[@thenegus5469]

Rode with a friend that had both BC kits and KW kits (at separate times). Couldn’t tell a real difference. If I had to say I would put the kw’s slightly higher over the BC’s. Although taking a glance at the price for the KW’s killed any desire I had for them

[@jefforr4488]

fact is bc are good coilovers..are they top of the line? no but do they suck..no.

[@jefforr4488]

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[@jefforr4488]

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[@SpectroRacingChannel]

fact is they suck bro if you put BCs on an R8 you should go straight to jail

[@alwaysrushian1]

those videos you linked seem biased to me... do you believe everything the internet tells you??

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

lmfao Canadian Rider says "they are 98% the performance of the magnetic ride shocks I had previously" and those mag rides were all leaking. So, yeah, I believe a new set of BC's is as good as a set of blown stock shocks!!

[@rene9ade559]

Lmao used dampers had them too stiff also 😂

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

they were bought new and installed right before I bought the car...why does everyone think I would buy takeoff coilovers?

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

in the video they are uninstalled and "used" because they had already been replaced with much better coilovers from Ground Control. The on-track footage is of the BCs but the rest of the video was shot after uninstalling them

[@unnheann86]

noob, there few version lol...n u can say it come with it and probably is old....

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

hi i hav re seet dey wer ownlee on car six munths b4 i bawt it so dey was basikelly knew

[@slayyyy]

@@SpectroRacingChannel yeh but las guy cud instal bad, ugotta finger em jus right wich come from experimenesce (at protunrshop). ​ also he cud just rape car and cos damajes!

[@chapowiththesticks]

Ha

[@aulzhoefer]

Yes they are terrible and for show only..

[@bobfrankfurt9449]

China doesn't make these coilovers... Taiwan Does.

[@bobfrankfurt9449]

And you sir are an idiot. If you bought these from the manufacturer, they would have been replaced IF they had defects. You prob got a pair for cheap that were used extremely hard. BC make extremely good quality components.

[@alwaysrushian1]

The controversy regarding the political status of Taiwan, sometimes referred to as the Taiwan Issue or Taiwan Strait Issue, or from a Taiwanese perspective as the Mainland Issue, is a result of the Chinese Civil War and the subsequent split of China into the two present-day self-governing entities of the People's Republic of China (PRC; commonly known as "China") and the Republic of China (ROC; commonly known as "Taiwan"). The issue hinges on whether the islands of Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen, and Matsu should remain the territory of the ROC as an effectively separate self-governing entity; become unified with the PRC under the existing communist government; convert the ROC to a new "Republic of Taiwan"; or unite with the mainland under the ROC government (after the dissolution of the PRC government). This controversy also concerns whether the existence and legal status as a sovereign state of both the ROC and the PRC is legitimate as a matter of international law. Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen, Matsu, and some other minor islands effectively make up the jurisdiction of the state with the official name of the Republic of China (ROC) but commonly known as "Taiwan". The ROC, which took control of Taiwan (including Penghu and other nearby islands) in 1945, ruled mainland China and claimed sovereignty over Outer Mongolia (now Mongolia) and Tannu Uriankhai (part of which is present day Tuva, Russia) before losing the Chinese Civil War to the Communist Party of China (CPC) and relocating its government and capital city from Nanjing (alternately spelled as "Nanking") to Taipei as temporary capital in December 1949. The CPC established new government on the mainland as People's Republic of China (PRC) in October 1949. Since the ROC lost its United Nations seat as "China" in 1971 (replaced by the PRC), most sovereign states have switched their diplomatic recognition to the PRC, recognizing the PRC as the representative of all China, though the majority of countries avoid clarifying what territories are meant by "China" in order to associate with both the PRC and ROC. As of 20 September 2019, the ROC maintains official diplomatic relations with 14 UN member states and the Holy See,[1] although informal relations are maintained with nearly all others. Agencies of foreign governments such as the American Institute in Taiwan operate as de facto embassies of their home countries in Taiwan, and Taiwan operates similar de facto embassies and consulates in most countries under such names as "Taipei Representative Office" (TRO) or "Taipei Economic and Cultural (Representative) Office" (TECO). In certain contexts, Taiwan is also referred to as Chinese Taipei. The ROC government has in the past actively pursued the claim as the sole legitimate government over mainland China and Taiwan. This position began to change in the early 1990s as democracy was introduced and new Taiwanese leaders were elected, changing to one that does not actively challenge the legitimacy of PRC rule over mainland China. Both the PRC and the ROC carry out Cross-Strait relations through specialized agencies (such as the Mainland Affairs Council of the ROC), rather than through foreign ministries. Different groups have different concepts of what the current formal political situation of Taiwan is. (See also: Chinese reunification, Taiwan independence, and Cross-Strait relations) In addition, the situation can be confusing because of the different parties and the effort by many groups to deal with the controversy through a policy of deliberate ambiguity. The political solution that is accepted by many of the current groups is the perspective of the status quo: to unofficially treat Taiwan as a state and at a minimum, to officially declare no support for the government of this state making a formal declaration of independence. What a formal declaration of independence would consist of is not clear and can be confusing given the fact that the People's Republic of China has never controlled Taiwan and the Republic of China still exists, albeit on a decreased scale. The status quo is accepted in large part because it does not define the legal or future status of Taiwan, leaving each group to interpret the situation in a way that is politically acceptable to its members. At the same time, a policy of status quo has been criticized as being dangerous precisely because different sides have different interpretations of what the status quo is, leading to the possibility of war through brinkmanship or miscalculation. The People's Republic Of China seeks to end Taiwan's de facto independence through the process of reunification. If Taiwan refuses this process, The People's Republic of China is prepared to use force through military means, in order to achieve unification.[2] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Taiwan

[@alwaysrushian1]

@@bobfrankfurt9449 so maybe you're the idiot

[@alwaysrushian1]

I love how many fan bois and maybe girls are up in here saying they are "sOoOoO gReAt" just because they happen to charge more than Racelands and Koni... they know nothing of actual expensive car parts.. because most of them are going on stancelyfe cars that will never see the track... most of these people think Fast & Furious was a documentary.

[@alwaysrushian1]

"iTs On pRo cArS GuiYz" called a sponsorship..

[@AinokeatoProductions]

What I love more than that is how you probably haven’t sat in a car as anything more than a passenger your whole life but you watch a lot of KZbin videos and think you know what you’re talking about. BCs are fine.

[@alwaysrushian1]

@@AinokeatoProductions hahaha, a car? shit, I only really ride around in my power wheels, and sometimes I hop on my Huffy bike to have some real fun. It seems like you think you know what you're talking about because you got-got by their marketing team and cool endorsements.. and because people you know who never saw a track in their life told you they were great.. probably because spending more than $30 on anything is a lot of money for them.

[@AinokeatoProductions]

alwaysrushian1 Really? Is that why I’m running KW V2 Coils because I got got by their marketing team? I’ve had BC Coils before and had a completely different experience with them like basically everyone else here. But tell me all about tracking cars, something I’d bet you’ve never done.

[@alwaysrushian1]

@@AinokeatoProductions So you're running KW V2s... that tells me all I need to know about BCs. I've tracked F430s, GT-Rs, Mustangs, Hondas.. certainly wouldn't be putting BCs on them ;)

[@ProjectBimmers]

Id say research ur bc coilovers...They certainly dont suck. u just got a bad used set...

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

hours of research

[@nelsonvelasco5822]

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. What a waste of time this video is. You’re not giving any data regarding your vehicle specs and coil specs. How much your car weights? What spring rate you’re using? What’s the alignment? How much preload do you have? How much lower than factory is it? Corner balance? Are all your suspension bushings good? For all we know, you installed them wrong because you clearly don’t know anything.

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

these bad; later i install ground control they good

[@RHDsucks]

I love my bc racing on my G37s 6mt

[@jeremymckinnon395]

I have er series in my track commodore and they are excellent. Id say adjustments are the problem here. Driver sounds like an idiot with money. Pay your mechanic to do a few laps. He will love it then show you how to adjust damping.

[@jeremymckinnon395]

Excessive oscillations means you need to adjust spring rate.

[@jdunn1781]

stop being a poor then like the rest of us and go ohlins big guy and stop crying ..

[@SpectroRacingChannel]

got the MCS doubles with remotes on the 996 these days....no comparison