BE FEARED | The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli

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"On this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, it is much safer to be feared than loved if you cannot be both."
- Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter XVII
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@Obtaineudaimonia
@Obtaineudaimonia 6 жыл бұрын
Friends, viewers, countrymen, lend me your ears... A couple of updates: This is the last video on Machiavelli’s _The Prince_ (for the time being). I do have rough scripts written for a couple of further videos, which may see the light of day at a later date. I hope you have enjoyed a break down of the ideas, stories and my personal interpretations from the book. I've packed almost everything I know about Machiavelli, into a short digital book: eudaimoniayoutube.gumroad.com/l/master-machiavelli My focus, time and energy has now shifted onto a new project. I am currently working on a three part series. This triptych piece of work will be published next and I look forward to sharing it with you and the world. _ad victoriam_ - Adam
@dgilman3648
@dgilman3648 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. As a person of great responsibility and power/authority, the reminders of what I learned during my first few reads of The Prince, helps my foundation. Again, Thank you
@soumenin
@soumenin 6 жыл бұрын
Great Adam! I was even thinking of the same, as there are several other subscribers posted on Machiavelli.But your ideas are as fresh as to the extent...Looking forward to the next series mate.
@mihajlo961x
@mihajlo961x 6 жыл бұрын
You're a star, thank you!
@jessicaguaman2187
@jessicaguaman2187 4 жыл бұрын
💟👌This was so good😄💖
@xandercage8082
@xandercage8082 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, where do you get your music from?
@kekero540
@kekero540 5 жыл бұрын
Respect is the confluence of fear and love.
@tontsar91
@tontsar91 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agreed.
@floridianman
@floridianman 2 жыл бұрын
nah
@mstwelvedeadlycyns
@mstwelvedeadlycyns 2 жыл бұрын
Good for those being bullied by those who are insecure!
@kyroskyroudis6345
@kyroskyroudis6345 2 жыл бұрын
respect is the product of fear and love and you don't need both for it
@willforest5302
@willforest5302 6 жыл бұрын
the important part is to establish a clear line of reasoning, if you are randomly cruel your subjects will think that they could be next and will seek to dipose you, be only cruel to those who have acted against you so that they know the price of disobedience and that if they support you they will not be harmed.
@Areanyusernamesleft
@Areanyusernamesleft 6 жыл бұрын
Will Forest hence the very clear warning not to become despised or hated.
@chrishendricks1736
@chrishendricks1736 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@matzleeach
@matzleeach 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not about punishment that cause fear. It’s about being held accountable and understand the consequences one may face that causes the sense of fear and respect.
@Reedinho
@Reedinho 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!
@the7observer
@the7observer 6 жыл бұрын
The fear principle is used by the law: There are people who follow the law because they are good people and there people whi obey the law because they fear being punished. As soon as some individuals notice that there's nobody watching they will commit crimes. If a criminal is certain that the owner of a house is unarmed then he/she will force their way in but as soon as they discover the owner has a gun they think twice, because love is not material (cannot be seen) while guns, threats are material (therefore seen and felt).
@MrMisanthrope_
@MrMisanthrope_ 6 жыл бұрын
the7observer fear is very affective and stronger than love at a distance. Whereas love grows with companionship and fear is weaken. I believe that how the Stockholm syndrome works.
@minhkhangtran6948
@minhkhangtran6948 6 жыл бұрын
There's a pretty good quote I have heard: "Good people doesn't need law." It's because good people, by definition, doesn't need to be told not to take advantagous on anybody, and be nice and kind. That's also why they rarely exist, because human, and nature's struggle is to take advantagous of the world around them, and thus are just as inherently selfish as we're inherently social and selfless. Good people doesn't need to impose law themselve either, as they doesn't need to impose anything on anyone, and also doesn't need it on themselve, as they already are by their nature. Most people is not however, whether it's peasants that learn not to steal even when in hunger, or the powerful that keep imposing law even when they have more than enough. (though in search of power, it's not often that you "have enough")
@NetherPrime
@NetherPrime 5 жыл бұрын
@@minhkhangtran6948 Good people need law, laws create order, they aren't always set to stop conflict.
@minhkhangtran6948
@minhkhangtran6948 5 жыл бұрын
NetherPrime Good people doesn’t need law, is because they’re morally just by default. They already got order within themselves, why need the law to do it for them? Law is created so that bad people could behave themselves and not harming other, good people doesn’t need that in the human world of law.
@Jake007123
@Jake007123 5 жыл бұрын
@@minhkhangtran6948 Good people need law to protect themselves from the bad people, who are majority and can cause irreparable harm. Also, nobody is perfect, so perfectly good people may act immorally, given certain circumstances. Again, the law and fear of punishment works well with those examples.
@akpost8780
@akpost8780 4 жыл бұрын
The Master is invisible; the next best is Loved; the next is Feared; and the worst is Despised. -Tao Te Ching
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 Жыл бұрын
I feel like only being feared isn’t that much better than being loved as they say it is. Sure you can get some extra time out out of it, but once that feeling of fear is broken, people will turn on you just like they did as if you were only loved. It’s impossible to always make the correct decisions, and inevitably you’ll piss some one off. And when that happens the only option left is to keep delaying the inevitable, and living the rest of life in fear for yourself.
@jacksmithers8575
@jacksmithers8575 2 жыл бұрын
I have proved that when pressured to or when disobeyed, I will reveal the secrets of all who do not want them revealed, even if it results in chaos and harm. However, when made peace with, I will make peace, and when empowered I will distribute powers.
@jrace4179
@jrace4179 6 жыл бұрын
In other words, you need to be cruel to be kind
@observer2484
@observer2484 4 жыл бұрын
As long you are not cruel for cruelties sake.
@mstwelvedeadlycyns
@mstwelvedeadlycyns 2 жыл бұрын
@@observer2484 Like Satan Claus
@MisterN1
@MisterN1 4 жыл бұрын
It is not the actions we commit that matter but the consequences that stem forth that should determine whether they are justified.
@astral9138
@astral9138 5 жыл бұрын
When i was a President of my class i used this to my classmates then days past they are like more disciplined ever before
@Codie-el2di
@Codie-el2di 6 жыл бұрын
This was quite enlightening and I think there was one ruler who was both loved and feared by their subjects;Isabella of Castile.
@kenmatthews2582
@kenmatthews2582 6 жыл бұрын
About to binge watch all of your content..starting now
@Obtaineudaimonia
@Obtaineudaimonia 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoy 👍
@bkygames9644
@bkygames9644 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update!
@dcrenzel5316
@dcrenzel5316 6 жыл бұрын
Great information for future leaders
@gendoruwo6322
@gendoruwo6322 6 жыл бұрын
and for fathers, too.
@Jake007123
@Jake007123 5 жыл бұрын
@@bread3599 The video literally says that a Prince should not not interfere with the lives of people and that a good ruler should be primarily keeping its people safe and its society working. Where the fuck you get dictatorship from that?
@masterarthius8752
@masterarthius8752 6 жыл бұрын
Still, Scipio Africanus defeated Hannibal in the end.
@TarnaBarTM
@TarnaBarTM 6 жыл бұрын
KILLimanjaro Unfriggenbelievable He was smarter in the end.
@je9625
@je9625 6 жыл бұрын
That had to do with military tactics and strategy. Machiavelli was thinking about a different concept: day to day rulership of the state / people.
@jackfrasiercomedy5942
@jackfrasiercomedy5942 6 жыл бұрын
Capitalism in the end defeated the coercive forces of tyrannical oligarchies and monarchies of history as well. Peace and trade is stronger than armies and war.
@myyt943
@myyt943 6 жыл бұрын
Jack, what a naive romantification. I'm a capitalist, but you are pretty blind if you don't notice all the war going on. It defeated them, sure, but you are implying they have gone away. It _supplanted_ them.
@jackfrasiercomedy5942
@jackfrasiercomedy5942 6 жыл бұрын
Government and business-government corporatism creates wars. Capitalism has people only paying for things they want and need. Nobody pays for murdering people in other countries they never met. and self-defense is sufficient on a personal basis without conquering countries and stealing their resources. Borders where trade crosses, bombs do not. War is created by governments and the sociopaths that take on government as a career rather than honest and peaceful trade.
@cathieleo7483
@cathieleo7483 6 жыл бұрын
next on avoidance of flattery and friends and family expectation,can you? this is a hard part 2chaps in one.you've nailed it bro.delivered clearly
@schizoidboy
@schizoidboy 6 жыл бұрын
When it comes to being feared it is hard not to be hated, but when it comes to being feared it seems you just have to target the right people, namely those who are a threat to the state and the people in it, but by being harsh in that punishment of the offenders they become the examples to the citizens of that state. Incidentally as I understand it Hannibal while successful fighting against Rome in Europe was far less successful fighting the Romans in his homeland in North Africa, Scipio might not have been as good as an overall commander but he won his battles, whereas Hannibal lost his major one fighting at home. At least that is my understanding of the matter.
@renukapallege5970
@renukapallege5970 4 жыл бұрын
Good one keep doing this for other books as well
@TheCensere
@TheCensere 4 жыл бұрын
The office. "I want people to fear how much they love me"
@ayoubmezoury4134
@ayoubmezoury4134 6 жыл бұрын
great video, dope content keep giving value !
@glorygloryholeallelujah
@glorygloryholeallelujah 2 жыл бұрын
I think the greatest weakness in his assessment, was the vastly oversimplified use of the term of *”fear.”* As opposed to using a slightly more fleshed out or “fine tuned” explanation of his philosophy - yet still easily understood, such as: *”Firm, but fair ruler.”* Fear is _still implied_ (and utilized) in the evenly distributed enforcement of the rulers pre-established laws/regulations... But instead of it being misinterpreted as a ham-fisted, tyrannical decree of *”hulk smash sh*t to ensure I’m obeyed!!”* It comes across as more of the _intended_ philosophy of being (essentially) an implicit contract between the ruler and the subject. The trade being that the ruler will fend off all of the schoolyard bullies, in exchange for half of your dessert at lunch. His end of the bargain is to keep you safe from all of the other big kids in the yard, which will allow you to go about your own life each day (you having a good or bad day, is mostly up to YOU to make for yourself, not for HIM to give/take from you- or to meddle/interfere with) and in exchange for this - you follow his rule and provide 1/2 of that sweet, sweet treat at lunch! You break the rule.... then YOU chose to forfeit that protection-and he then becomes the bully you were enjoying protection from. (I know, not a flawless analogy- but you get the gist of what I’m saying.) I don’t even fully know where I was going with this longass comment... I guess I just wanted to babble to nobody in particular about bullies, candy, fear and Machiavellian philosophy. 🤷‍♀️😆
@skn180
@skn180 4 жыл бұрын
you forgot about how Ezio Auditore inspired Niccolo Machiavelli and how he defeated Cesare Borgia and ended his tyranny .
@darklightreaper1
@darklightreaper1 4 жыл бұрын
ssssshhhhh! the normies don't know, we need to hide in plain sight
@sohaibkabouya7651
@sohaibkabouya7651 6 жыл бұрын
you took to long this time it take time great video keep going wonderful work I am fan here
@thoughtprogress7042
@thoughtprogress7042 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome content
@busyshah
@busyshah 4 жыл бұрын
What a gem of a video it is. Really opened my eyes. Great philosophy and justification behind the claims made.
@jaiminshah6416
@jaiminshah6416 5 жыл бұрын
This man's ideology shall be adhered by me for rest of my life FO SHO !!! SIMPLY WOW !!RIP SIR !!! THANKS A TON FOR THESE PIECE OF ADVICES, UNQUESTIONABLY, U HAVE WON MY HEART !!!🥇🤞🏂🙏💃💎🍾
@MrMisanthrope_
@MrMisanthrope_ 6 жыл бұрын
the7observer fear is very affective and stronger than love at a distance. Where as love grows with companionship and fear is weaken. I believe that how the Stockholm effect works.
@fuller1883
@fuller1883 5 жыл бұрын
so it is the intentions of a leader fear and love are simply tools to achieve your goals and each tool has its purpose
@fuller1883
@fuller1883 5 жыл бұрын
you need to be able to see the big picture
@Instawise
@Instawise 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Loved this video. Keep posting more such videos. #instawise
@apollodlaw7901
@apollodlaw7901 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like more respect then anything
@Skimmerlit
@Skimmerlit 6 жыл бұрын
I'll miss this series, but I'm looking forward to future projects Could a brainlet read and understand The Prince? I'm still interested, but misunderstanding or misinterpreting might equal wasted time
@tiberiusmagnificuscaeser4929
@tiberiusmagnificuscaeser4929 6 жыл бұрын
Machiavelli is fairly straightforward in his writing so I don’t think you have much to worry about
@chocolateex1907
@chocolateex1907 5 жыл бұрын
ty
@1872959
@1872959 6 жыл бұрын
Very important note usually forgotten: Better to be feared than loved if you cannot be both!
@adamsteel4098
@adamsteel4098 3 жыл бұрын
I'm studying this book
@lokeshreddy2369
@lokeshreddy2369 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Joe-po9xn
@Joe-po9xn 6 жыл бұрын
Side note: Hannibal lost. Scipio Africanus ultimately invaded Cathage, burned it to the ground and salted it so nothing would ever grow there again....so who won in the end?
@gendoruwo6322
@gendoruwo6322 6 жыл бұрын
sigh... that point is irrelevant to the topic Machiavelli discussed. Scipio won in the end NOT because 'he's loved'. Hannibal lost in the end NOT because 'he's feared'. You should know that that their strategies and tactics and unique circumstances, are far more than just about who is feared and who is loved.
@garn3590
@garn3590 6 жыл бұрын
but he didn't, Carthage was destroyed later, still by a Scipio, but not by Africanus. A little precisation, for how cool it may sound the first writing about the salt spreading are of the XIX century, and is never told in older text, is considered only a cool story, albeith a false one (the city was still destroyed and burned entirely to the ground)
@BigOldScout
@BigOldScout 5 жыл бұрын
Though I do agree in many ways that a leader must attain respect, just I am not sure about the example used here. Scipio did indeed defeat Hannibal in the end. Joshua Chamberlain was a beloved leader. He indeed had a large group of deserters assigned to his regiment and told he should have them executed. Instead, he listened to their grievances and gave them a speech reminding them of why they were fighting. Those men did fight alongside him, under his command at the battle of Little Round Top. At the same time, Chamberlain was not above disciplining his men when they stepped out of line. There were soldiers in his command who received a loss in pay and were sent to a military court martial for various reasons.
@bits.and_pieces
@bits.and_pieces 5 жыл бұрын
just wao..
@BuceGar
@BuceGar 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos.
@MisterSiza78
@MisterSiza78 6 жыл бұрын
Sadly still an apt advice even to this time.
@bigfrankfraser1391
@bigfrankfraser1391 5 ай бұрын
my take away from Machiavelli is the age old saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" my old history teacher once jokingly expanded the saying with "and the road to heaven is paved with bad decisions"
@sasufreqchann
@sasufreqchann 5 жыл бұрын
IN FACT, fear and love are opposing each other. Fear is the very opposite of Love .
@VertegrezNox
@VertegrezNox 4 жыл бұрын
pretty sure "Hate" is diametrically opposed to Love, (being two poles of the same thing) with varying level of degrees between them, where sometimes we say we feel Like or Dislike towards something.. or neither.. Actually if you research the concept (or different words) for LOVE, you might find as i did, the English word for LOVE infers ownership or at the least a sense of selfishness. if you say you LOVE ice cream, it is not because of how "good ice cream is" but rather because YOU perceive it to be good. when something displeases us for a moment, we may be prone to say we do not love that thing, or even hate it. the English word is very based on self perception, & i'm not trying to argue that "love isn't subjective" but that if we look around we can find examples of words that are more specifically descriptive towards a specific type of love. Such as the Greek's Eros or Familial descriptions of love as an example. Cheers!
@VertegrezNox
@VertegrezNox 4 жыл бұрын
O & the opposite of FEAR would be COURAGE. While courage is not the absence of fear, it IS an act of willful confrontation, acceptance and triumph over it.
@user-zy2te1px7b
@user-zy2te1px7b 3 жыл бұрын
The prince can be applied by anyone... remember that !
@Sowhythen
@Sowhythen 3 жыл бұрын
what program does he use to make these videos ?
@Obtaineudaimonia
@Obtaineudaimonia 3 жыл бұрын
There's a link in the description.
@Sowhythen
@Sowhythen 3 жыл бұрын
Eudaimonia thanks !
@greenfox6917
@greenfox6917 5 жыл бұрын
Does Machiavelli's advice not contradict Sun Tzu's Moral Law? Maybe this was why Machiavelli was dismissed into exile during his lifetime - while Sun Tzu was revered during his era, and is still studied today by leaders & strategists.
@philguer4802
@philguer4802 5 жыл бұрын
I think Machiavelo said it was better to be loved than feared,but better to be feared than nothing
@Michael_the_Drunkard
@Michael_the_Drunkard 4 жыл бұрын
Machievelo😄😄😄
@Paul_Atreides
@Paul_Atreides 8 ай бұрын
He was right
@ddunn987
@ddunn987 2 жыл бұрын
4:00
@banksdin9198
@banksdin9198 2 жыл бұрын
according to Jesus if you are going to be a leader set as an example. when having a decision use your heart and not your brain. these philosophy is very useful and very powerful in every situation. i use these everyday and it has no mistake or lapses that i know.
@env0x
@env0x Жыл бұрын
but jesus was a spiritual leader not a political leader. i don't think jesus would make a good commander of an army or ruler of a nation. because well we all know what happened to him when he tried.
@DaddyAZTL
@DaddyAZTL 11 ай бұрын
​@@env0x you think hes weak hes not. Look at david. A great king. Jesus was more obedient than david. He flipped tables and whipped people dont forget.
@animewatch4213
@animewatch4213 6 жыл бұрын
I find it bit hard to believe that people will hate you more for taking their assets than killing their love one.
@xivuarath5247
@xivuarath5247 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I think Tywin Lannister is a misunderstood character.
@heylookitsherbie
@heylookitsherbie 6 жыл бұрын
Would I rather be feared or loved? Umm...easy, both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me.
@benquinneyiii7941
@benquinneyiii7941 3 жыл бұрын
Get going
@whoareyou1034
@whoareyou1034 6 жыл бұрын
I do think this is about fear vs love. In think in this case it was about being tough vs. weak.
@vanlao6367
@vanlao6367 6 жыл бұрын
It's about the stick and the carrot, no matter how big the carrot you hand out to some one, the stick need to be many times bigger to make sure the receiver will appreciate the favor you granted them. If you are a ruler, you show those under your rule what happen if they rebel against you with brutality, but at the same time, you show them what happen if they remain loyal to you by handing out rewards and protecting them.
@joshglover2370
@joshglover2370 5 жыл бұрын
@@vanlao6367 Slilver or lead!
@raginald7mars408
@raginald7mars408 2 жыл бұрын
My old Buddy Putin finally accepted this as the better way, works
@guadalupeguillen5884
@guadalupeguillen5884 5 жыл бұрын
i’m supposed to read this book for school but i’m confused asffffff N ion understand lmao
@bread3599
@bread3599 5 жыл бұрын
I'm Trippin how do you not understand, you just read it. With your eyes, considering you have a pair?
@dyingearth
@dyingearth 3 жыл бұрын
But Scipio defeated Hannibal.
@420blackbirds8
@420blackbirds8 5 жыл бұрын
This is war Lord mind set. Short term stablity, long term failure. Fear doesn't offer creative or bold ideas. Fear reinforce old solution and not adapting new and better answer. This is why war lords get over thrown again and again.
@MasterVader66
@MasterVader66 5 жыл бұрын
I want to say that some Drill Instructors are both. The are loved because the are fucking saveges, and feared because of it
@Amirnezic
@Amirnezic 4 жыл бұрын
Jackfrags?
@goalingkungfu
@goalingkungfu 4 жыл бұрын
Err.. but Scipio defeated Hannibal tho (?)
@lorddiethorn
@lorddiethorn 4 жыл бұрын
It does not matter in the end you miss the point
@vaughnandre12
@vaughnandre12 6 жыл бұрын
3:19 ITS A BROFIST!
@ahriman46
@ahriman46 5 жыл бұрын
Can you not use that 'DING' sound effect please? Im sure it confuses a lot of people to the sound of their iphone message..
@ahmedalmheiri9936
@ahmedalmheiri9936 5 жыл бұрын
He certainly can! But he WONT LOL
@sjrescapades2256
@sjrescapades2256 5 жыл бұрын
kind of ignores the fact that people can both fear and hate the prince and resent them and rise up against them due to hatred
@sjrescapades2256
@sjrescapades2256 5 жыл бұрын
eg the rule can be misconstued like Daenerys targeryan season 8 episode 5
@lorddiethorn
@lorddiethorn 4 жыл бұрын
No it does not he points out in the prince later the leader should not be hated
@lindagrinberga7521
@lindagrinberga7521 4 жыл бұрын
hi
@whayes8084
@whayes8084 4 жыл бұрын
But Scipio won?
@lorddiethorn
@lorddiethorn 4 жыл бұрын
No Roman won not scipio he just happen to be in command
@CharlesEvans77
@CharlesEvans77 6 жыл бұрын
So, nobody is going to point out that everything in The Prince was a sarcastic attack on the immorality Machiavelli saw? It's along the lines of saying, "I guess you're just going to take the last cookie because nobody else is strong or brave enough to stop you? You're totally the best choice for manager in the office." And having everyone say, "Wow! I guess you're right! He IS the best manager!"
@vanlao6367
@vanlao6367 6 жыл бұрын
I believe "the prince" was written by Machiavelli as a gift to one of his noble friend who had a son coming to age and needed experience in running the state. He never intended to have it published, but somehow the book found its way to the mass, and more copies were made after that.
@CharlesEvans77
@CharlesEvans77 6 жыл бұрын
As I recall, it was written to the Medici family in the months after they tortured him and banished him from Florence. A lot scholars believe the style was used to insult the Medicis since this type of book was typically written as a gift to teach morals and ethics in statecraft and adulthood, and the people of the time would have seen it as scandalously immoral (though certainly true). I'm not an expert, but my feeling for it is that Machiavelli wanted to shame them and support the idea of republic.
@onlylauren4712
@onlylauren4712 4 жыл бұрын
Then why when my manager tried to yell at me I cussed his ass out??? Hmm...
@geensloth911
@geensloth911 4 жыл бұрын
Because you did not fear him.
@lorddiethorn
@lorddiethorn 4 жыл бұрын
Only Lauren he is weak leader he should make example oour of you by firing you
@Michael_the_Drunkard
@Michael_the_Drunkard 4 жыл бұрын
Africans in florence, surely!
@chrishendricks1736
@chrishendricks1736 4 жыл бұрын
*I am the strongest cuz my friends,lovers & family respect me (i take it as fear) & still love me.* 👽
@stayinawesum
@stayinawesum 3 жыл бұрын
but this cant happen in a good democracy, can it?
@diegoboydferrando5187
@diegoboydferrando5187 6 жыл бұрын
you have to choose . fear or love. i choose love
@kasifhanif2046
@kasifhanif2046 5 жыл бұрын
Yet Scipio won..................
@Coneman3
@Coneman3 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect the binary logic of this philosophy is simply a justification for tyrannical behaviour. Note also that The Prince was written to gain favour. It was not Machiavellis own philosophy as most think.
@GetThePicture
@GetThePicture 6 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one thinking Mr. Trump here??? Great info and nice animation
@lindagrinberga7521
@lindagrinberga7521 4 жыл бұрын
my name jef
@mihajlo961x
@mihajlo961x 6 жыл бұрын
The major caveat to this thesis, however, is that I'd at least _like_ to think that the principles outlined here are not longer relevant in the post-Enlightenment era. Since dialogue, pluralism, democracy, and cooperation are at least held up as values in many parts of the world, where humans aren't as militarized at the granular level (i.e., individual conscription, less conflict, less violence, etc. in comparison to historical precedence), I'm not sure it holds water. TL;DR: Is this _really_ still applicable to modern society, which is built on trust and cooperation?
@insertnamehere001
@insertnamehere001 6 жыл бұрын
A nation that tries to be anything besides Democratic will face the unlimited bombing of the United States of America. So I'd say fear is still the only thing that keeps Democracy in place.
@arthurobrien7424
@arthurobrien7424 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. Because the premise that modern society is built on trust and cooperation (and not fear) is incorrect. I think it es never the one or the other. And also, much as described in the video, the one leads to the other. Indeed I'd say it's cyclical. Peace leads to weakness leads to war leads to a more universal need for peace and cooperation. I live largely by Macciavellian principles now, but I prefer to offer cooperation before I resort to intimidation. I find the latter is only neccessary today in cases the state a lost deterence and society does not enforce it's rules *by punishment*. But this is increasingly often the case. Also, there are those who's faculties do not allow them to act in their own intrest. And not too few of them. It's hard enough to scare them into behaving, good luck trying to convince them peacefully - or explain to them what the Enlightenment is. Some people, who often have very little understanding of the principles and scope of social sciences, have convinced themselves that punishment is ineffective. I can assure you from personal success it is as effective today as it has ever been, and it is much more effective than you might believe when you only watch criminals. Some might misbehave even when threatend with punishment and even after they have been punished. Some rare saints may never misbehave. But most people a neither angels nor devils. You local mafioso might not be frightend by the law as it is now. Thus the law is considered superficial. But your (for now) friendly Grandpa next door is. This is what most people overlook when they become to idealistic about moral progress, coupled with the human desire to see oneself in a positive light. And your local mafioso - it is often said harsher punishment does not decrease crime - or similar principles in contexts other than law - but that is mostly a hoax. It does not work as well as one would like. But harsher punishment *does* decrease crime, at least a little. Again - it's never the one or the other.
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 6 жыл бұрын
Michael J. Oghia. I believe that falls under relying on people who love you. Those principals only hold strong as long as circumstances allow it.
@EduardoEscarez
@EduardoEscarez 6 жыл бұрын
Michael J. Oghia, It still holds water, only now there are codified laws and institutions instead of weapons and pure physical force. The modern state has to be loved (providing essentials services like healthcare and education) and feared (of external aggression though the military, internal one though law enforcement) to be capable to achieve its goals and survive. Now the modern princes (chief of state/government, ministers, legislative leadership, etc) must manage their own organization so they're loved (a second-in-command becomes minister) or feared within or outside of their realms (the legislative chamber impeaches a minister), but also to protect the stability of the State (follow laws, fire people that breaks them, detain executives of a company that pollutes the environment, etc). Basically, modern societies change weapons and uncertainty, with laws and a State capable to impose actions swiftly, so now is possible to have more space to have trust and cooperation because we know that a)the state isn't going to intervene in certain affairs and restrict rights and, b)there will be legal consequences if someone breaks the rules.
@maxxxstrong4577
@maxxxstrong4577 6 жыл бұрын
Michael J. Oghia Democracy is an illusion.
@mohammadalighani5213
@mohammadalighani5213 5 жыл бұрын
Good. But fix your note while talking
@van3299
@van3299 5 жыл бұрын
Duterte be like!
@thedrinkinggamemaker9749
@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to love and fear, you can be: Loved by some *and* Feared by some Loved by many, Feared by few or Loved by few, Feared by many Earn Respect Avoid Hatred
@captainteutonica5474
@captainteutonica5474 5 жыл бұрын
But never become so cruel as for it to become unfrgiveable.
@bandit5272
@bandit5272 6 жыл бұрын
Must be why Hannibal won the second war of carthage. Wait, that's right. He didn't. Roma invicta.
@enchanters_nightshade
@enchanters_nightshade 6 жыл бұрын
JJ Latham i think he only lost to Rome because of their ability to learn from their enemies. Rome really lucked out with scipio. And the African scrimishers turned on cathage which was a pretty big dick kick
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 6 жыл бұрын
It's been more my experience, that the tales of Hannibal were mostly exaggerated by Roman sources. They had to find some way to justify their own shortcomings, and so blamed his somewhat fictitious greater strengths and leadership... If he was such a fine and great and powerful leader, the allies he "surely" had would not have turned on Carthage and helped Rome out. ;o)
@enchanters_nightshade
@enchanters_nightshade 6 жыл бұрын
That's way too simple and excludes the fact that Romans were slaughtered by the thousands and records of those battles
@johnisaacfelipe6357
@johnisaacfelipe6357 6 жыл бұрын
Chris E-C never trust africans
@ace7669
@ace7669 6 жыл бұрын
I can see the parallels with Trump.
@enchanters_nightshade
@enchanters_nightshade 6 жыл бұрын
The thing about being like the Prince is that you aren't supposed to know they can use evil methods. Being blatantly evil is counter productive.
@ace7669
@ace7669 6 жыл бұрын
It’s good to be a firm person in the field of politics. Show that you are strong and your opponents will back down.
@enchanters_nightshade
@enchanters_nightshade 6 жыл бұрын
stickysoap see but no one has backed off he's still heavily opposed, even within his party Also being firm and strong is different than showing your cruel or malicious side
@ace7669
@ace7669 6 жыл бұрын
That situation would’ve been amplified if you look at neoconservatives like Reagan and Bush. We’re in different times now, and people just don’t want Americana.
@enchanters_nightshade
@enchanters_nightshade 6 жыл бұрын
stickysoap yo idk what you're talking about Regan and old bush cultivated an almost saintified perception among republicans. Public perception of the contra affair is a good example.
@gabbiekavanov4692
@gabbiekavanov4692 6 жыл бұрын
8th comment im not being ironic at all im a meme hater
@Bjorick
@Bjorick 6 жыл бұрын
this statement inspires neither fear nor love, thus, is pointless. It invokes pity, which will led to many looking down upon you, and only the women who love a weak male will support it.
@bread3599
@bread3599 5 жыл бұрын
Bjorick no no no, you pretend to be weak. So that others see you as incompetent of any crime, violence. Or manipulation. And they won’t suspect you until you already broke them completely.
@tara8364
@tara8364 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm don’t like this
@lorddiethorn
@lorddiethorn 4 жыл бұрын
Why
@SpellingBeeC
@SpellingBeeC 5 жыл бұрын
this is too wrong and evil to do
@lorddiethorn
@lorddiethorn 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not evil to do you just don’t have the stomach to be a leader of men do you think a football Coach is not feared and or loved. Their players love him but they also love him they fear letting him down, they fear if they failed him they will lose their position on the team
@migkillerphantom
@migkillerphantom 6 жыл бұрын
The irony of placing hitler where he was placed is palpable. He might have lost the war and committed atrocities against conquered subjects, but his nation - the Germans - absolutely loved him. As a matter of fact he was often too soft and idealistic.
@Jake007123
@Jake007123 5 жыл бұрын
A good chunk of Germans hated his guts too, namely anyone who he killed (German jews comes to mind), he talked shit about, etc. If I remember correctly, a lot of his generals also hated him when he demanded atrocities, and a lot of the general public hated him even more when his atrocities where known.
@Michael_the_Drunkard
@Michael_the_Drunkard 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jake007123 german jews don t exist, they aren t germans. Judaism is a people , not just a religion. If you actually study their history from antiquity until modernity , in the context of intercultural relations, you ll see that this people were and are rarely innocent victims in their persecutions. They also hold a lot of power in media,governments,academia and banks, which they use for their own interests.
@Michael_the_Drunkard
@Michael_the_Drunkard 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jake007123 "a good chunk", probably not germans except a few communists
@Jake007123
@Jake007123 4 жыл бұрын
@@Michael_the_Drunkard Yeah, I'm not going to be convinced from anyone who justifies genocide.
@nanayponsing9390
@nanayponsing9390 2 жыл бұрын
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