be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 Unboxing & Review

[@EpicAdolf3D]

Obviously it shouldnt be: "Frames per second, more is better" It's "Temperature: °C, less is better"

[@TheNakedSpaceMan]

So they tried to install the heatsink on the board while it was still in the case and then complain about how hard it is. Take it out of the case to install it?

[@DocTheMedic3]

No no, clearly, you'd run an rma, repackage it, and then drop it off and wait for them to credit you again. That's way more logical than removing the mobo.

[@Markinpuff]

DocTheMedic3 They didn’t install it right, the bolts/nuts go on the mount first, that’s what the tiny wrench is for. The cooler is attached from the back of the motherboard.

[@asdf24681012]

Why the hell is the benchmarks measured by FPS and not by temps ?!, and am I the only one who noticed it ?

[@EvanNakagawa]

Unrelated to the coolers, but I'm really enjoying this format you guys have been doing recently; an overview with Linus, and then performance numbers and brief impressions with Luke. Keep it up!

[@patpan8675]

3:42 "Frames Per Second - More is Better" didn't you mean "Temperature - Less is better".

[@ThatGuy16141]

I have to say I'm really happy to see Linus's channel as one of the only ones without spam comments.

[@zachmaher4561]

I am very happy with mine. I would say that my hands are probably the same or larger than Slicks. So be aware they are not at all kidding about the difficult installation. My case is an Enthoo Pro which allowed me to pull the top of the case and the fans out(which exposes a large hole in the top) to let me get to the top two nuts for the cooler. If you have a similar case you will also be able to make it work.

[@therealaaroon12196]

Luke didn't sleep back in those days

[@Tsukiyomi998]

3:43 FPS more is better O.o isnt that the temperature?

[@JoosySmooyay]

thats what i thought, wasnt sure what they were trying to show with that graph

[@Tsukiyomi998]

StupidSaleem I guess they did that in a hurry and just used the standard graph XD

[@JoosySmooyay]

lol, seems quite a weird mistake to make though. But since Linus and Slick are so freakin awesome I guess we'll have to let em off this time. My guess is that instead of saying "FPS, More = Better" It should have said "Temperature, Less = Better"

[@PranaPramudita]

they have typo too, "corsiar"

[@michaelsteffensen6844]

You should really take your motherboard out of the case when you're installing a big heatsink like that. Considering the size difference, it comes as no surprise this cooler was more difficult to install than the NH U14S.

[@nielsostman]

at 4:00 it looks like you used a Noctua fan on the heatsink. Is it a fair comparison to the competition if you don't use the included fan?

[@Ostebaronen]

Their standardized testing rig uses only Nocuta fans. So everything they test in it uses the same brand and model fan. This means only the heatsink itself is tested, not the fan.

[@nielsostman]

But doesn't it make more sense to test the product you receive in the package? If I am to buy one tomorrow, I won't have any Noctua fans to mount on it.

[@Ostebaronen]

This is due to the variation in parameters, (air flow, static pressure and noise level) the various fans produce. To no have to adjust all the fans to perform exactly the same, they are using the same type of fan in all of their tests. Sure there isn't a Noctua fan in the package, but to be able to properly compare the performance of the various heatsinks, conditions must be the same. If you want reviews where the default fan is used, TechPowerUp, Overclockers.com, Hardwareheaven, Tom's Hardware, Hard OCP and many others have them. Then you can compare their numbers to the ones Linus provides.

[@remnant24]

Yeah the graph is showing frames per second as the unit for some reason. That can't be right. Also, it would be nice to have a noise level comparison.

[@Batcountry12289]

Wow! The Zalman Reserator 3 gets 80 FPS on Prime95??!!?? WHERE DO I BUY!?!?!

[@SilvioAlcantara]

Would it be easier to mount this particular cooler outside of the case first?

[@mihalis1010]

If you can't mount the cooler in the case... Then maybe you should remove the mobo, install, then reinstall your mobo....? Am I wrong?

[@Errughor]

just got this. its imho cheap and awesome. though installing it even out of the case is a bitch, specially the top left corner where motherboard heat sink is, just like slick i had to ask for help from people with small hands. i used define r4 case, forgot to put in cpu power cable before before screwing in the mother board, that was hard to deal with too.

[@Hadamona]

If you had so much difficulty installing it in the case, why not take the motherboard out of the case to mount it?

[@S2td123dsa]

3:45 Frames Per Second - More is Better Nice I didn't think that better coolers decrease my FPS. :D Change that next time pls :D, except that really nice video like always.

[@TheBibliofilus]

So why not do it right and mount the cooler on the motherboard outside of the case and then remount the board in the case, that's the standard procedure on large CPU-coolers.

[@MrOlyevo]

Usually to install big coolers you need first to get out the motherboard from your case.

[@kght222]

just curious, if you had the motherboard out of the case would you have been able to install it yourself slick? the case looked pretty cramped, particularly with the video card installed.

[@gjsncr]

Guys, it's called the Be Quiet! Shadowrock 2... and neither of you mentioned anything about the noise levels this cooler produced. I know you're not silent enthusiasts, but that would have been useful information to have.

[@AfroStorms]

Its all about the fan that is used with the cooler and you can see they used a Noctua fan with it.

[@motonack]

Be Quiet! is the brand, not the product.

[@Thompsonma22]

Why didn't you show the cooling performance?

[@DX88]

What about the Dark Rock Pro 2, you never reviewed that but it's awesome!

[@ArcticGamez]

should do a video on best CPU Aircooler

[@LLsunflower]

Noctua NH-D15

[@SpectacularName]

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Great performance at a low price suitable for all but extreme overclocks.

[@LLsunflower]

be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3

[@madisyksteist]

There are so many good options at the moment, you need to know exactly what you need and can use.

[@Jeffball610]

I thought your recommendation was to always install the cooler outside of the case. Had you done this, would it have been easier to install?

[@_TrueDesire_]

Why not install the cooler on the motherboard outside the case?

[@3samgarcia]

Hi Linus I would love to see a Dark Rock Pro 2 unboxing if that's possible

[@Alexandra-Rex]

Shouldn't the first graph have the test "Temperature - Lower is Better", or something like that? And the second one, noise? Decibels?

[@nicklloyd-jones]

Could someone explain the benchmark graphics at 3:41 and 3:45. I was expecting something measuring temperature not FPS?

[@hardwaregawd2902]

Please come back old intro! I loved you so much!

[@xSubaa]

I'm confused about your graphs. You are testing for Frames Per Second performance and not temperatures? If you labelled the x-axis incorrectly I still don't think that under load the temperature difference between the H100i and H80i is ~30 degrees?

[@ssserega2976]

Hi! And what about the fact that not every motherboard can withstand its weight? after all, it weighs 1.1 kg! And I also wonder if it is suitable for socket LGA 1700?

[@MrToxicSausage]

I'm using a H80. Wanted good cooling and space for large ram. Case didn't support a H100. Compromises!

[@JasonMTuftsify]

I need to ask, but how do Coolers do anything with Frames Per Second? The charts at the bottom said "Frames Per Second - More is Better" is this a screw up, or did CPU coolers suddenly make computers have a better FPS?

[@zanduh04]

So with the newest card sets from Nvidia and AMD the cooler you can keep your card the more overclocking you can put on it. This then translates to better fps.

[@JasonMTuftsify]

ZanderDude I'm sorry... what you just said made me think of what that would look like having one on the CPU, and a sideways GPU. XD It would just look really sick!

[@DavidGreen1993]

They must have forgotten to change the label, it should say Degrees celsius

[@JasonMTuftsify]

David Green Ya I know but I saw it and it made me laugh a little, also some others mentions this they might be like me and just wanted to state the obvious.

[@DHMorra]

how about installing cooler BEFORE screwing the motherboard? ;) =problem for closed bench setups, not for reg consumers...

[@Alkaline7.62]

If using a Silent Base 800 window case, would you use the Shadow, Dark, or Dark Pro cooler. Or will they all fit?

[@xyanide1986]

I have a 140mm heatsink that doesn't protrude much and sort of leans over my ram. I can't overclock this i3 and under prime95 load it doesn't exceed 40 degrees celcius iirc. I don't hear anything coming from it once I replaced it with a noctua fan. When I upgrade to an unlocked i5 I might switch to a dual rad.

[@AlexanderVonMalachi]

i bought HR-02 Macho and for no apparent reason replaced the TY-140 with TY-143(even though it never goes past 1300 rpm) and i love it. FX8350 with turbo never goes past 47C even during long testing.

[@MrTwisted003]

I'm looking for looks>performance>price or performance>looks>price. Although I'm trying to get a full custom water loop going, using a quick-disconnect external rad box that's mounted in a mini-fridge, for summer uses when it gets to 30-35C inside ;)

[@Darkspacekilla]

Nice

[@SilverT3a]

Would be great to see noise levels comparison as well. Also in this video graphs says you've measured not temps but fps, which is obvious typo. As for inability of mounting this cooler using large hands probably would be solved if you'd mount it outside of case. I'd choose a big and quiet cooler that cools really well to answer your question.

[@plphotovideo]

For the sake of installation you can take the motherboard out to install it, though it's not ideal. For the marginal cooling performance compared to the Noctua I would go for the smaller, easier to install one. Then again I would personally spend a little more and get an NH-D14 or PH-TC14PE unless space was an issue.

[@JTMarch86]

Luke, it might help if you removed the video card first, or just simply install the cooler onto the motherboard outside the case. But yea, big heatsinks like that are hard to get around. There's not really a way to make it easily accessible without impacting performance (like creating a hole where a screwdriver can fit down into, etc..)

[@pjd0ioas]

+Jordan March I bought the shadow rock 2 and the installation was a pain in the ass. At least if you have an AMD cpu it is. It is a bit easier to install if you do it all outside of the case, but if you do it outside then depending on your motherboard you may have a hard time tightening the screws into the motherboard standoffs (was the case for me)

[@MitchelDZ]

Loving the slow-moving products shots. Great :)

[@WiseGuy508]

Why is the like bar blue?

[@Grisly11]

so these coolers are better than liquite coolers?

[@stsw3]

this might be a stupid question but why is the graph measuring in frame per seconds and not temperature ?

[@bigdave8504]

wondering the same thing

[@cartermassa]

David Clark its the way the benchmark scores (in FPS) its just measuring how the processor is preforming by its boost overclock

[@stsw3]

Carter Massa but does that graph not say that cooler is second to the bottom in performance because the graph said that more fps is better ? sorry for asking I having a hard time understanding the graph

[@cartermassa]

Because more FPS is better its just how the benchmark runs off the CPU..... so if your CPU is cooler it runs better at the boost clock, so the benchmark runs more fluid and doesn't stutter so MORE FPS lol jk P.S. not a stupid question you just didn't know :)

[@ManWithBeard1990]

I wonder if it might perform better if you stick some duct tape on the sides, to keep the moving air inside the heatsink long enough to reach the second set of heatpipes.

[@0sm1um76]

I wouldn't do that if I were you, the adhesive form the duck tape could gunk up the insides of the heatsink which would be very hard to get out.

[@ManWithBeard1990]

You're probably right. Dust would probably stick to the adhesive as well. That being said, I still think it would preform better if you could close off the sides somehow.

[@0sm1um76]

ManWithBeard1990 I know what you mean. Maybe if you used two things of electrical tape so no adhesive is exposed and use clips to fasten it to the heatsink it might help.

[@RoLeXDubstep]

LinusTechTips Did you guys use the noctua fan that was shown in the video of slick trying to screw in the heatsink for the test or did you guys use the be quiet fans?

[@LinusTechTips]

we use noctua fans for our testing.

[@MrJabucek]

The most important thing for me is the noise. After that comes the temperature and the last is the design. I'm using the akasa nero 3 cooler, which is really quiet (you can't hear it at all), it preforms well (always keeps my i5 at 3,8GHz lower than 60°C), but it is really tall and so you actually need a preety big (wide) case to get it in.

[@Dreamst8r]

I'm going for the new noctua d14 when it releases, it's huge and it can fit good size ram underneath it.

[@MswsUs]

I really like this format that Linus and Luke is doing for the past month or so..Linus is doing the product reveiw and Luke is doing the tech reveiw. Now on this CPU cooler. I will not likely purchase or recommend this product for several reasons. First you have to jerry rig the product for push and pull configuration. Second Luke a real qualified tech needed assistance to install the cooler. What I did like about this product. the manufacture build this product with high quality materials.

[@zizi05105]

i just like a dead silent cooler with adequate cooling. price? it depends on the preformence

[@MasterDuelMax]

I'm going with a AIO because its was on sale for like 30$, its a H55

[@BigFourHead]

your comments about returning it cause you could not mount it, was this while the motherboard was in the base or out?

[@xentricheals]

why would they not give you the mounting hardware to add another fan? seems odd

[@JarnoMarinelli]

How could the h100i perform worst of all coolers you tested?

[@bingusproductions7904]

just ordered this a few days ago, will be there in a few hours i hope. my scythe yasya broke down after several changes of ram, so i wanted something durable. looks cool

[@SuperRantboy]

To answer Slick's question: H110. Best of both worlds lets you install whatever ram you want while moving the serious cooling surface completely away from all your components and securely mounting it to the case.

[@NoNeaNaNoNly]

I've compared them on a German retailer page (Alternate) and the price difference between the be quiet! and Noctua is 30,- € (be quiet! being cheaper!) which is incredible for how well it performs. If I replaced my current one I'd probably go for this cooler. Thanks for the video Linus :)

[@tigerbalm666]

I have a question since using these aftermarket fans for OC'ing...why not use a water cooled when they are so affordable these days? Also, some memory are tall and does not fit under these air cooled solutions. I am really thinking about going water cooled for it's efficiency, sound, and small size...maybe durability too. Any thoughts?

[@devontoner]

That depends, are you going full custom loop or buying and all-in-one unit (ie h100)

[@aazuda]

back when Luke was called Slick :^)

[@MJ-uk6lu]

He's still Slick, due to historical reason. He entered LTT with his oil filed PC.

[@REEPER_ONE]

How did the H80i score higher than the H100i?

[@ChrisD4335]

this cooler is $60+ not many air coolers get much more expensive than that the NH-U14S is about the same price wise, I would not call it very "reasonably positioned"

[@thecommunistalien9271]

ChrisD4335 it's 42 bucks

[@ChrisD4335]

3 year later..... really bro?

[@semers911]

Hey Slick check your Excel graphics - and now are sure that higher is better????

[@DeViLzzz2006]

I go for the HSFr that is affordable and popular at the time I am looking for one. I do not mind noise so it makes it easier picking one out.

[@Ov3riid]

You guys should compare these to the H60 and other closed loop systems like that.

[@mebourke1]

Black noctua fans on the back shelf?

[@vandread4330]

Yep. He first showed them in a video at the Noctua booth at...Pax I believe? lol

[@mebourke1]

We want them!!!!!!

[@tabooturtles]

I went for the H100i, takes up little space (on/around the motherboard anyway), looks sleek, and it's quiet since I replaced the original fans with Corsair SP120 Quiet Editions

[@ibertreynders]

Me too :)

[@Furgelnod]

Big, quiet coolers all the way. The Zalman one I've been using since 2010 has performed incredibly well so in future I feel I'll go with something similar.

[@harryriceballs9108]

I for one would really like to see a review of the shadow rock slim

[@Jaystickzs]

I dont get the graph results "Frames per second"?

[@young_pootie]

Couldn't you take the motherboard out or did you try that already

[@prluis11321]

So according to that chart the air cooler fans perform better then the liquid cooler like the H100i ???????

[@kamelionify]

Are you reading a different chart? The h100i outperformed all the other coolers at both idle and load.

[@prluis11321]

Neil Birchall The chart says more is better and the H100i is at 52.7 and the air coolers have a higher fps I think I am reading it right or am I

[@JasonMTuftsify]

prluis11321 Read the chart again, it says Frames Per Second - More is Better. They got the thing at the bottom wrong it actually made me laugh.

[@FraeschD]

Look at dem fan edges! Why doesn't bequiet do all of their fans like that? I hate the centered mount.

[@onsmirnov]

Why not take out the motherboard to install the cooler?

[@situzone]

Or, you could mount the cooler on to the MB outside of the case. like, take the motherboard out, and the attach the cooler

[@megakiller999]

KZbin has spoken! The most preferred style of heatsink is Bob!

[@PusterPL]

I'm hopelessly in love with my NH-D14

[@WhiterunGuard11998]

Can't you just install the cooler before mounting the motherboard?

[@bananapeek4612]

Arctic Freezer A30 or Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO + ?

[@TamaraChing]

ok, now that i want a bluetooth speaker to go with my toshiba pure 10" tablet, can you tell me which speaker would be nice on the cheap side. i break things worse than a child.

[@Axomite]

could i fit corsair vengeance ram on here? specifically Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B

[@WolfX44]

Can this fit on MSI B450M MORTAR MAX?

[@PCGamingFTW784]

why have they changed the likes to blue?

[@Supratt001]

Linus does it cool better than the h100?

[@nnyarach]

Linus! Pls. Can it fit in a Sabertooth Z87 Mobo?

[@cqon]

Excuse my noobness, but arethose graphs supposed to say "Temperature - Less is better" ?

[@otoyayamaguchi5094]

i have an ASUS M5A97 R2.0, Socket-AM3+ and high profile ram will it fit? would be cool to know cause im thinking of buying one

[@OverdriveLP]

I have a Scythe Mine 2 with an additional Corsair SP120 fan to cool my i5 4670K. The cooler is as far as I know one of the biggest and heaviest air coolers you can get. I always use standard height DIMMs, so the only downside of owning such a big cooler is that you have to remove it to swap out RAM.

[@lucasduport5300]

that thing looks nice but how much hurt ?

[@gish85]

Can someone explain to me the benchmark graphs? Are they tests of how many frames per second can be calculated while keeping the cpu 20 degrees? If so how does the h80 beat the h100 by so much??

[@JChalant]

I think they forgot to rename their X -axis to Temp in Celsius?

[@froll1999]

And that's why I buy Noctua heatsinks. Their mounting system is so easy a three year old could do it.

[@thanos486]

I am planning on getting a new rig wih a standard heat sink cooler on it. After that i may replace it with liquid cooling.

[@xdethxfr]

Linus! I suggest you disable the comments on KZbin! My suggestion is to probably migrate the discussion to your forum or reddit like what TotalBiscuit did! You've already said on the previous WAN show you didn't like the new comment system, but now it's just gotten out of hand! It's gotten so bad that hell, I even miss the fanboyism and hating saying you've sold out and whatnot, that used to go on anytime you talk about any product! That's how bad it's gotten! At least your replies to them were really funny! I'm not sure If this post is ever gonna be seen by you or not as I'm guessing it'll be drowned in the sea of spam that is the comment section. And what sucks is that I can't reply to anyone, and I had to type this comment on my phone because apparently, Google+ doesnt acknowledge my account as valid when I'm on PC! As a long time subscriber and huge fan of yours, I hate to see you having to put up with bs like this :(

[@ZoruaZorroark]

why is it that a couple days after i buy a new cooler (my case as in i just bought the noctua cooler shown here) something a tad better comes out

[@iCalifornia95]

The computer industry is always advancing. I bought a 7990 about a month ago and as soon as it arrived the R-series came out so yea. But it doesn't mean the 7990 sucks or is outdated the 7990 is still one of the fastest and plays all my games max settings ultra smooth at 120fps. As long as the cooler or any part of your system works like you want it to, you don't have to upgrade every month.

[@ZoruaZorroark]

kinda like new phones or the latest iWhatever, nonetheless, still want that card of yours:), or one of those asoos 790 cards

[@LuxThe1337]

Please another review comparing all of the shadow rocks

[@falmnDabastrad]

I own Noctua NH-12US with 2 NF-F12. It keeps my amd phenom II X4 965 BE stable at @3.8 gz. Idle is about 34-35 Centigrades. And in perfomance it's jumping between 43-35 Centigrades. I'm very happy with this cooler and i recomend it to everyone. I chose this one over the D-14 becuase of my high profile RAM, but i'm still very satisfied with it!

[@MMKTTBOMB]

how did you get better performance with the H80i, I just don't understand

[@watts300]

Seeing the brief hand-size comparison was actually kind of funny for some reason.

[@janlim0916]

I got a question...Will it fit with a z87 sabertooth and balistix elite ram on it??

[@devjmetivier]

I figure it would best fit any ATX size motherboard.