Bearing Block Duplication . Part 2 .

[@Randysshop]

The end result looks really good Max, I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall when you discovered that mistake and had to start over! Cheers

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , there are a lot of people that would like to be flies !!! 👍

[@Rustinox]

Good one, Max. Nice to see the order of operations and the thinking behind it.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Rusty 👍

[@MattysWorkshop]

Gday Max, that was really interesting, I don’t think I’d like to have a go at machining that, brilliant job, cheers

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Hardly a drama Matty , i am sure you would be able to handle it ! 👍

[@Just1GuyMetalworks]

Well done, Max 👍😊👍. I know all too well how much planning and effort it takes to replicate little parts like this. When folks ask me to make something like this the first thing I ask them is, "How much is a new one?" lol. I'm sure you know why 🤣. Cheers!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Chris . I ask the same question , but a lot of stuff is no longer made or available . 👍

[@outsidescrewball]

Great job on the build thanks for sharing your methods/setups, bozo made it south of the equator…😮😂❤

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , he has not been ''Down Under '' for ages . Too hot for him ! 👍

[@stacy6014]

Really nice idea of using the mandrel between centers for alignment of the part in the chuck. Like you mentioned it would take a lot of fiddling to get it straight just trying to clamp it up. Joe

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@opieshomeshop]

You're a wizard Max. Gandalf level 5. I would have looked at that part and scratched my head for weeks trying to figure out how to make that. Despite my minimal machining experience, I've been able to keep my mistakes to a bare minimum. Once I've got my drawing and set up ready, I take a few hours to think everything over, and that's when I start finding screw ups. It's helped me complete 98% of my projects without a screw up. And that dividing head you got is huge. Seems like that thing would tip my mill over if I tried setting that up on it.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . It's good if you can spend time going over a drawing . 👍

[@neil4344]

Nice to follow all the steps through. Could of quite happily watched the brass nut being turned even as a simple part. Keep up the good work

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@TheAyrCaveShop]

Fantastic job. I was holding my breath on the threading; internal to a shoulder is scary. Mr Bozo likes to see a a practice part or two before the final product... I see he's making a visit down under 😁😁 Thanks Max, great video. Cheers...

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol . Yes & he can piss off back to the Northern Hemisphere ! Cheers Dean 👍

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

It is too cold for him here right now. He is working on his Australian tan. LOL!@@swanvalleymachineshop

[@brandontscheschlog]

Brilliant setup! I loved watching your process of setting up and how you want about each step so that you could have something to reference from. Thank you for sharing and not skipping over the critical steps.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@DudleyToolwright]

Again, a totally unique approach to this part. Very cool, Max.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks Rob . Cheers 👍

[@lonniebrock3282]

Hey Max when we never have a mistake we're never doing anything another high caliber job done in my eyes anyway

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , that's how things roll sometimes ! 👍

[@graveneyshipright]

this is great! the thought that goes into the holding and the sequence you actually do the jobs is what I can never do in my own hobby workshop. I end up painting myself into a corner as it were. thanks again for your time and effort.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries . 👍

[@heliarcweldandmachine]

Some great tips throughout this series mate, but i see the imperial system and its simplicity strikes again ! Great videos Max

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Dividing fractions usually gets me ! When i was younger it was no problem !!! 👍

[@ianpendlebury9503]

Nice work and detailed video as always - thanks. Kudos for showing the "cock-up". Speaking of cock-ups, your use of the phrase "vinegar stroke" at 40.50 is something that I haven't heard in 40+ years... and then usually in the plural and in an entirely different context!

[@billdoodson4232]

Yes, I was going to comment on the vinegar strokes as well.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , it is used often where i come from ! 👍

[@markrand652]

As always I learn something and enjoy it greatly. With any luck I'll remember what I learned when needed in my own shop. Thanks Max!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries , Cheers 👍

[@tas32engineering]

Balll bearing carrying loads are a great project for heavy loads on a trolley. People dont appreciate the nub or understand. Reading prescription glasses soon after cataract done. Great use of the indexing head.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . I had to get pterygium surgery done on both eyes , very painful ! 👍

[@clydedecker765]

Of all the various complicated setups, this was the most complicated and ingenious ones I have ever seen. Kudos Max! I thinking you rank among the best machinists in the world in my book.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@johnfry9010]

That was an amazing job Max , I would have spent many a sleepless night just thinking how to even start on that !

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@cpcoark]

Fantastic idea using that bar for dialing in that part.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very good job friend Max,,thanks for your time

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries , Cheers 👍

[@ypaulbrown]

great video Max, something different in the shop every episode. thank you, cheers from Florida, USA, Paul

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@jasonhull5712]

That would have made me pull my hair out for sure. I really enjoy watching how you break down operations and choose many different work holding options that I have never thought of or seen. You are a very accomplished machinists Max. No matter what the boss says about ya in the break room ! Ha !

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , i am the boss . No not really , she is in the house !!! 👍

[@JourneymanRandy]

Turned out fantastic Max. What a workout.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks Randy . 👍

[@deanmoser5907]

Great old school stuff Max. There's not many of you left.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@bruceanderson9461]

Great setup - don’t think I would have come up with it!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries , Cheers 👍

[@georgepinder1329]

Great videos Max it is always good to see how you decide to make something like that from scratch. And I was always told that the guy who didn’t make any mistakes never made anything else either !

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@TedRoza]

G'day Max. All that machining & Chips flying everywhere, but eventually you got there & it looked like the original. I would have done it slightly different, But I'm still sorting through all the chips to find the Fish 😆 😊😅😂

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@624Dudley]

Really enjoyed this two-part series 👍. The order of operations would’ve boggled my brain were I to attempt this part. Good on ya Max!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@captcarlos]

Hahaaaa, yep, if you haven’t stuffed up, You haven’t machined enough yet. I’ve got to watch out for the perfect half mil…. Good multiple set up reverse engineer Max. Result looked great.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍👍👍

[@acmemachining]

Looks great Max. Like how you centered it up. You always have great ideas. Thanks for sharing.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries , Cheers . I am a bit late on catching up on a couple of yours . 👍

[@paulbuckberry7683]

Great video Max, love your attention to detail and the way you explain operations.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@theoutbackshed]

Nice video Max. I paarticularly liked the 4 Jaw setup, haven't seen that before. Can't get my head around using a parting tool upside down though. Cheers Steve O

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . You would get your head around an upside down tool if you had a smaller lathe in about 30 seconds !!! Cheers 👍

[@DudyOne]

Good Job Max, I have learned alot from watching your channel. We all make mistakes and some don't fessup to them. Kodoos to you for being honest. Keep teaching us all!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@leathermanTK55]

At least you spotted it before youd finished. Great video Max. Cheers

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries . Cheers 👍

[@edsmachine93]

Nice work Max. Very nice looking part. Thanks for sharing. Have a great day.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@hmw-ms3tx]

The one saving grace of a screw up that you have to do over is that when you go to do the second one it all goes much faster and easier. You have all the tools you need sitting by, you have the experience of doing it once and the numbers (at least the correct ones) are still in your head. I absolutely hate redoing parts because I buggered them up but once I start the second one it never seems as bad as it should. That was a nice fit on the bearing. Ken

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers Ken . Yes , second time around is usually always quicker . Main thing i look at , is to try & get the critical stuff done on a part ( the bits that may go wrong ) then go back & do the less critical stuff . 👍

[@hmw-ms3tx]

I try to do the exact same thing. Bugger it up before you have too much time invested.

[@joell439]

Fantastic detail. 👍. My second attempts ALMOST always turn out better than my 1st go. Even watching you do the work, I get more and more anxious when subsequent operations begin and I think about how much has already been invested. I keep thinking now’s not the time to F it up 😂 If you haven’t shown it before, could you show us in some future video how you implemented the ‘center’ deep inside the 4-jaw chuck? I couldn’t figure out how you did that.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . The centre just goes in the Morse taper spindle bore . Machine the areas that are high risk of a cock up first then go back for the rest , it saves a lot of time in a rework situation . Cheers 👍

[@joell439]

@@swanvalleymachineshop Thanks Max - that makes perfect sense.

[@dlstanf2]

Love the setups, thought process, and engineering required to make the parts. BTW, across the world in North Carolina, USA on the coast.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@alanwhitehead3025]

I learnt a lot from this, a great lesson in engineering. Many thanks for sharing it.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@radardoug]

Great job Max! Can't wait to see how you stabilize the lathe. Mine is the same way and shakes like a wet dog whenever I have an imbalanced load.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . I am going to make new bases from scratch . 👍

[@RalfyCustoms]

Alls well that ends..... well 😂 nicely done Max, finished part looked easily as good as the original, dread to think how many hours it took you? I assume the original "tractor" part is long since unobtainable

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , parts are like rocking horse shite to get ! 👍

[@endrekalvenes8460]

Great skills on that setup! 👌I learned a lot so thank you for sharing 👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@rodneykiemele4721]

Excellent short series, Loved it Max, thanks for all that you do.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@GraemeStephens]

Shock - after 50 Fifty Minutes in, and it finally came out, your first blooper !

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , 👍

[@macsmachine]

Great video Max. You were playing chess on this one, looking 3and 4 steps ahead. Well done.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks , sometimes you have to ! 👍

[@ccbproductsmulti-bendaustr3200]

Superb work 👌Max Cheers Chris

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@johnbaker7621]

I like the bar for set for your setup great idea

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@paulcurtis2779]

Great job. . Even better you caught the error and made correction. . Awesome

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@karlh6700]

Either the customer is a very good friend or has deep pockets!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol . When you need it , you need it ! 👍

[@greglaroche1753]

You are definitely a master at what you do. Thanks for sharing it with us. It will be interesting to see when you build your solid one piece support for the that lathe. I have the same design and struggle with having enough rigidity and keeping twist out of the ways. Is your lathe bolted solid to the floor ? Thanks.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Not bolted down yet , that would help a lot . I will wait until i build the supports . 👍

[@jamesworsham125]

Nice bit of duplication. 👍🏼

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@jasen963]

Well done looks awesome 👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@MyLilMule]

Nice and easy, straightforward job. 😂

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , a piece of piss as we say Down Under ! Cheers 👍

[@bulletproofpepper2]

I would bet if you had a box of twelve from the manufacturer one would match your part and eleven wouldn’t. Great video.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@1ginner1]

Hi Max, Oops, them half fractions are a bugger. lol. "The man who never made a mistake never made anything". Best wishes, Mal.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

That's what i reckon as well ! Cheers 👍

[@davidrichards5594]

"TRUTH IN VIDEO" very commendable, we all do it...Dave😇

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks Dave 👍

[@be007]

nice detailed video max and a good result. cheers ben.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@MPenzlin]

Nicely made.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@nathkrupa3463]

Great video sir ❤😊🎉

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@trevorjones4463]

Well done mate top job

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@johncollins2037]

Hi great 2 parter, loving the longer format. Even you have to make a mistake occasionally, sh£t happens. Machining super stars of YT would not admit to a mistake, some would have said, i was going to build a bigger draw bar anyway. or words to that effect.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@seamusbolton215]

Really enjoyed these two videos, thanks

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍

[@alandawson2813]

Wow just wow young max, From kiwi land

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@robertcanavan6600]

Been following you for the last couple of months. Catching up slowly. Your video shot are mostly spot on! Great job doing it by yourself. Not bothered by your occasional gray language, so no need to apologize. Would suggest though to button one more button at the bottom of the shirt. A little more exposure and you might have to go for a R rating/s

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , Cheers 👍

[@greglaroche1753]

Great videos. Thanks. I just wish all KZbinrs would put links to continuing videos in the in the notes. Especially links to the earlier ones. Often KZbin suggests videos that are not in sequence.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries . Cheers 👍

[@Warped65er]

Excellent final product.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@Warped65er]

Educational order of process.

[@115533662244]

Very nice work Max (as always)

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@veejaybomjay8145]

Nice work!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@alungiggs]

Great videos again Max. Thank you 👍🇳🇱

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@chrismorton9736]

Nice work Max!!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@jacobpace4716]

Im with ya there Max! somedays its one cock up after the next!! good on you old mate love your work as usual.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . It happens when i an not in the zone ! 👍

[@dutchgray86]

That was a pretty complicated part to make, but good setup certainly made it easier. I don't think I would have wanted to make that, would have taken me a very long time.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@charlescheatham4524]

Enjoyed all your work Max, right or wrong!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@colincunningham1902]

Thanks Max. Always appreciated.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@keithammleter3824]

With so many machining operations, I was getting a bit worried about my own ability until right at the end when Max admitted he had stuffed up and had to start again. I wish I had a dollar for all the times I have had to start again. The set up process using a round bar beginning at 14:38 seems excessively time consuming and dubious. I have solved a similar problem by making up a flat spoke shape / spider whose spokes/legs fit between the chuck jaws. I found that the chuck face is accurately machined and so tapping the job so that it is hard up against the spider results in accurate positioning of the job, since the job rear face has been machined flat. Takes only seconds. KZbinr Inheritance Machining built a rotating fixture plate [search on inheritance rotating fixture] which would have made all the work in this Part 2 video very much quicker to do, in a milling machine - although you would need a power quill drive to do the thread. You would never make up his fixture plate for just this one job, but it has lots of general uses, with no need to pretty up curves with a belt sander or hand file.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

For a one off job , it was the quickest easiest way . I do not watch those fake machinist bullsh-t channels .

[@keithammleter3824]

@@swanvalleymachineshop Yes, I said it wouldn't pay to make a fixture just for one job in my earlier post. But your method using an alignment shaft is not the easiest and quickest way. Play in the shaft is clearly visible in your video. It took you quite a while (~9 minutes) to tap the job true, and it is not certain you got it really true. With a spider plate it would have taken seconds and be certain true. I wasn't posting for you - I was posting for other viewers who might think your approach is the only way. You are being quite unfair to Inheritance Machining and those like him such as Artisan Makes. I understand that their productions are much more heavily edited than your videos, but they do admit their stuff-ups, and their ideas are very good. CEE is also very good - by far the best in his field on KZbin. Shot and edited to high professional standard and his methods are top class. His rehearsed speech is clear and concise. I am an engineer who specifies things to be made, and thus need to know what can be done and how, and machine myself at hobby level. I have learnt useful stuff from all these KZbinrs. I am a little surprised that an off-the-shelf plummer block could not be adapted, but that is between you and your customer. If he wanted it to look exactly like the original item, and was prepared to pay for it, so be it.

[@alasdairhamilton1574]

Nicely done Max, just need to stamp the part No on it😃.👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . The owner does that . 👍

[@alanremington8500]

Nice one !!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks 👍

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

Regarding turning off balance projects in the lathe, a shop I know builds components that are odd shapes and off balance. They built a poor man's balancer that attaches to the spindle similar to your cat's paw. It has a small wheel and tire mounted to it with some water in the tire. As the lathe spins, the water in the tire counters the off balance part and smooths out the vibration.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . I have never heard of that one before . 👍

[@paulrayner4514]

We are all human Max, at least you caught it early. great finished product. Are you going to re stamp the numbers on?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . The owner does that . 👍

[@garyc5483]

Great job Max. Bummer but as they say Shix happens. ATB regards from the UK

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

It happens ! Cheers 👍

[@willemvantsant5105]

Hi Max, worked with a Swiss engineer commissioning a 10 mW driven axial compressor made by Sulzer. He said you have to make at least 11 mistakes every day or you aren't doing enough.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , not sure if i could cope with 11 ! I would have to demote myself to the broom ! 👍👍👍

[@markfoster6110]

Bugger!! Another one for the shelf.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol . It will get re processed into another part !!! 👍

[@williamfissell1694]

Would you/could you have milled the bore and the external contour on a rotary table?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

I could have , but as i was duplicating a casting it was not worth the extra time on the job . Cheers 👍

[@frankerceg4349]

Thank you Max!

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@glenncpw]

Max are you going to take any pics of this "tractor" when all the parts are made ? Good onya

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Maybe . 👍

[@dannyarendall5233]

Yours looks far better than the original

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

10 x stronger , as the owner found out when he went to stamp in the part numbers ! 👍

[@mickgentry8128]

G'day Max Just curious, was the centre held in the spindle taper while inside the four jaw chuck?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Yes , in the spindle morse taper bore . 👍

[@thigtsquare950]

Your videos made me think…. Thanks for all, the aha moments. Indeed, it’s a problem when the measurements start playing musical chairs in the drawing and you have to start again. Being there done that heaps of times. BTW why did you decided to use the parting tool in reverse? Does it avoid chatter& vibrations?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Yes , i always run that tool in reverse . It performs a lot better . 👍

[@bambukouk]

thank you 👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

No worries 👍

[@MikezVW]

Perfect name to your video. A good setup makes or breaks the job. Too bad you don't have a ProtoTrak NC unit on your Bridgeport to machine the large radius.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Thanks . Have not used an NC machine since trade school days during my apprenticeship , typing computer cards put me off those things ! 👍

[@chrisletchford6394]

@@swanvalleymachineshop that must have been back in about 1973 74 we had a card operated machine where i worked one of the first on a bridge port,Making tool holders for carbide triple tips ,loads of rolls of punched card which didnt repeat that well lol Diagrit grinding company England

[@dennisbjones]

Reason #537 why working in metric just makes so much more sense ;)

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Imperial is exactly the same as metric as soon as you ditch the fractions ! 👍

[@dennisbjones]

@@swanvalleymachineshop Yeah but you likely wouldn't have made the blue if the fractions aren't there. That's exactly my point. Easy to do as you said in the vid. I'm about the same vintage as you (I think) where we sort of came up knowing both so metric isn't that foreign. I'm all for neuroplasticity to stay sharp but also get sick of doing things twice for a trivial reason though.

[@jimsvideos7201]

Always remember the duck-funger rule. If you wouldn't stick your duck in it, don't stick your funger in it either.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , true ! 👍

[@WestHamBubbleBoy]

Great job, Max.👍 I got a couple of questions, mate. The first is. Why didn't you make a part 3 to this project? It would have been nice to see you make the brass part as well as seeing at which point you realised the cock-up and decided to start a fresh. Second question. I've subscribed to your channel for a few months now, and one thing bothers me. Why is it that you don't use an airline to clean away the chips? It's so much easier, cleaner, and more efficient than using your finger or a dirty oily rag. You know how the saying goes mate. A clean workshop is a safe workshop or something like that. Or what about cleanliness is next to godliness. Who wrote that fcukin 5hit lol ⚒️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

[@billdoodson4232]

I'm not answering for Max; but I was taught over 50 years ago in my Workshop Practice classes at Tech as an apprentice, to NEVER use an airline for cleaning down of machines. Using an airline can blow small bits of swarf under the way covers or to other places you don't want it, leading to damaged ways and components. More importantly, however, is that the swarf can be blown long distances and can easily end up lodged in someone's eye. Less of an issue maybe in a one man shop, but you can imagine small flakes ricocheting off the back of the lathe straight into your face.

[@RicktheRecorder]

Certainly the old text books told you never to use an airline on a machine to clear swarf.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

One day i will get air hooked up by the machines . But you need to be real careful how it is used . Good for when you are cutting threads but i will always use a brush for the swarf . Misuse will blow crap where it is detrimental to the machine . You see a lot of it with CNC use but they have very advanced way wipers & covers to protect the machine . 👍

[@rizwanyoutube4542]

If you want to ask a question, how to ask you?

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Most people just ask .

[@bobhudson6659]

There are many machinists who would have shied away from that job - with just as many excuses, Well done. Curious. How long did that "5 min" job take.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Made for a long day with the filming & editing as well . Cheers 👍

[@mikegregory460]

That's another one for the shelf of shame. I'm not showing you my shelf 🤒

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Lol , Lucky i have a very small shelf ! Cheers 👍

[@simpleman283]

👍

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍👍👍

[@alanreynard3331]

Too true blue

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Cheers 👍