Beast Mode - NVIDIA RTX 4090 Review

[@optimumtech]

Nuts. Also test bench for those asking: - Ryzen 5800X3D - G-Skill 32GB 3600 C16 - MSI X570S Carbon - BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 12 1000W

[@talhanadeem2995]

You didn't played apex legends on it 🥲

[@klaesregis7487]

Did you have Reflex on in every usecase (edit: in the latency comparison)? Considering that you want a comparison that with most of the variables equal.

[@dylanthefuckinberry]

hows Destiny 2 with the 4090

[@marcusholloway1147]

Agree with you to a degree But The price is defenetely not ok this card is advertised as a gaming card and should be priced as such if nvidia cant afford to make their cards at a gaming level price they shouldnt be advertised as such and instead be advertised as work or mining gpus

[@LeftJoystick]

@@Hzuuuu LTT got 2x the numbers in that game compared to every other reviewer. LTT Labs are sus af.

[@himbary]

Crazy, didn’t expect this rasterization performance

[@jasonalbert530]

What is raserization?

[@masonmoyers]

@@jasonalbert530 generally means performance without raytracing on

[@BlingJ.]

4090 it cant play 4k native 144 fps a game which is years old cyberpunk so

[@rsequestris2506]

@@BlingJ. so wat cyberpunk is still the most demanding game. what, you gonna pull a new game out of your ass to benchmark?

[@petar1401]

@@BlingJ. maybe write a sentence that makes sense before copy/pasting it everywhere in this comment section?

[@OMFGJ00SUCKN00B]

Wow, haven’t seen leaps like this since the 900 to 1000 series. Not a fan of the physical space these cards are taking, but impressive to see 4k gaming get to an exciting frame rate finally.

[@joemarais7683]

Eh the space isn’t a big deal tbh. You’ll probably be forced into buying a sff case supporting an ATX psu and 4 slot like the Meshilicious, but if you’re already spending $1600+ on a gpu, $140 for an accommodation case and riser isn’t a deal breaker.

[@fVNzO]

Kepler, maxwell and pascal all had similar increases. And before that the average was somewhere around 60% gen over gen. So this is indeed back to the same standards that we were used to seeing, with features on top. We did sacrifice a couple generations of stagnation for those though.

[@WayStedYou]

Who knew? all you need to do is stagnate on node/die size for two gens and then put out a 10nm (8nm) to 4nm jump!

[@retrocomputing]

Physical space is for better heat management than 3000

[@Erribell]

The pricing is fucking insane. Gamers are being priced out of the market.

[@ProjectPhysX]

AV1 is a game-changer, a true technical miracle. I hope integrated GPUs will soon get encoder/decoder functionality, as only then AV1 will find widespread adoption.

[@HuntaKiller91]

Nxt gen 7000G and MeteorLake should come with av1 as standard

[@Luxinatoris]

Intel Iris Xe (iGPU found on mobile Core i5 and above for 11th and 12th gen) handles AV1 natively, for decoding at least

[@BlingJ.]

4090 it cant play 4k native 144 fps a game which is years old cyberpunk so

[@albioncia]

or you can buy intel arc a380 as a second gpu and just use that for av1 functionality itll probably be cheaper

[@dagnisnierlins188]

It's royalty free codec, this is going to be everywhere.

[@nommindymple6241]

Yours is the 3rd review of this card I watched (after Steve's and Jayz'). I think yours is the best. Your side-by-side comparisons and your charts are more informative than theirs. Good job!

[@an3k]

I saw Linus' review and it was horrible. They thought Twitch only allows for 3500 Kbps and didn't even compared the same area of the screen but just left/right side ... which says barely anything. Well, who cares about Linus since he turned it into a clown show :(

[@romxxii]

Steve completely avoids DLSS 3, claiming the tech is not there at launch. Funny how Ali got it working for Cyberpunk at least.

[@smaller_cathedrals]

Not to mention that he's so, so much more pleasant to watch. For starters, he's not an obnoxious tool, which goes a long way when you're a presenter.

[@nommindymple6241]

der8auer's video is really interesting. He did some testing where he limited his to about 60% power limit and ended up losing only 5% of the performance. So, instead of a 450W card, nVidia could have released it as a 300W card and got 95% of the performance.

[@jablue4329]

@@romxxii He said they were getting crashes, iirc, which is a pretty fair experience to report and reason to not cover it.

[@P1xelPerfect]

Thanks for pausing the screen during the AV1 demo, so the YT compression didnt destroy it. That really helped emphasize just how much better it is. Im stoked to get my hands on a 40 series or ARC card to use for streaming!

[@Dorderhan]

It's still insane how 5 years ago, the absolute unit of an 1080 Ti was 700$ at release. The price increase between the flagships in just these 5 little years is crazy.

[@lunchey4605]

Feels like in the past 5 years literally everything has inflated in price. It's crazy.

[@TurbosGoPssh]

EKWB needs to supply you with a water block so we can see this thing in action within an SFF case!

[@BlingJ.]

4090 it cant play 4k native 144 fps a game which is years old cyberpunk so

[@rustler08]

​@@BlingJ. "Durrr, years old, durrr."

[@TurkeyOW]

@@BlingJ. why buy a 1080ti when it came out if it can't output what my monitor displays at max settings on Crisis?

[@danebeee1]

@@BlingJ. what a useless comment

[@nilla2904]

@@BlingJ. it being years old doesn’t just how difficult it is to run

[@Jason_Anderson_I]

That summary chart at 2:22 is awesome, I'd love to see that become a regular thing for comparing performance increases for new generations. Great video as always Ali!

[@user-eb6xm4zl8n]

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[@AakashT800]

Would love to see a round up of all sff cases( NR200 and Dan A4 H20 - that power adapter bend needs to be checked)that support the 4090 fe, as seen in derbaur's video we get 95% performance at 60 to 70% power target. So cooling doesn't seem like will be an issue.

[@YsOsEriOuz760]

You covered everything within 14min, with clear and precise graphs. other reviewers would drag this into an hour. I rarely comment and hit the like button, but you deserved them. Well done!

[@kelownatechkid]

Thank you for discussing frame generation without dlss upscaling, this is something other reviews have neglected to mention

[@ZomgZomg007]

will you do a undervolting on it? The power efficiency seems insane compared to prior gen.

[@ZomgZomg007]

@@bomas_ulz yep i saw derbauer do some analysis on this. It was actually insane. For raw numbers in gaming in pubg test of his, you can drop about 150W for just 5% performance drop. That is...actually insane.

[@SweatyFeetGirl]

that has always been the case for multiple generations already... i for example dropped the power target from 100% to 67% on my RTX 2070, lost like 5% fps but went from 185W to 120W

[@mopnem]

Feel like undervolting is always necessary, always regardless

[@thisisdabz]

hands down the best review of this cycle. Great work Ali

[@Saturnit3]

Oh I didn't know his name was Ali, is he Turkish?

[@killerful]

​@@Saturnit3 I don't think so, but he lives in Australia according to the account.

[@Gavo172]

Will you be testing out undervolting? I wouldn't be surprised if you could undervolt it massively like the 3080 and get a very minor different performance

[@AmrAbdeen]

just binged most of your videos, great content!

[@konga382]

I really appreciate you actually taking the time to sit down and play a game for a while with DLSS3. Most other reviewers are just showing performance numbers.

[@BlingJ.]

4090 it cant play 4k native 144 fps a game which is years old cyberpunk so

[@bigcrashg]

@@BlingJ. comment makes 0 since bud

[@Mojave_Ranger_NCR]

@@BlingJ. Yeah, and what card can?

[@zoboomaku]

You need to settle down... as someone who only loosely pays attention to the PC hardware scene these days, I really have no need for any other channel anymore since finding yours. Clear, concise, and always good takes all around. A+

[@jhpak]

I only rely on your reviews and GN for objectivity. Keep it up

[@mgreamico]

love your clean and clear visual presentation on this video. kudos!

[@user-yq7ik8sk4c]

You always have the best and most informative videos!! I love this channel

[@brunomedley8263]

Amazing review, you're at the top of your game. The level of detail and presentation is remarkable. Presenting Frame Generation and still think of the expected cons, like input lag and present it, was very good. Keep it up!

[@hughdubyna2252]

Hi Optimum Tech, would it be possible to do a video on this card being undervolted? I love this card but I'd be curious to see how low I can get the wattage while still having good performance. Thanks!!

[@pedazodeboludo]

Thanks for talking about latency, it's the first thing I thought of as soon as I realized that "DLSS 3" mainly meant "interpolation." ;)

[@CosmicApe]

Super impressive thermals and noise out of the FE card. Can't wait to see undervolt results on these!

[@green6676]

Derbauer covered it, you can reduce power usage by 40-30 percent while only losing 10 or less percent performance

[@matteocarucci4269]

dlss 3 +frame generation on 4060 will really be something useful. GG nvidia for the tech. Too bad for the overprice of the 4080

[@joemarais7683]

We all know the 4060 will be the same thing as the 3060, which was the same thing as the 2060 super. Don’t think dlss3 will make it worth the $500 price tag it’ll probably have.

[@Erribell]

$700

[@rdmz135]

4060 aint comin till mid next year

[@tillfricke6659]

Amazing Review, thanks for including side by side comparison of AV1 and H.264 aswell as 3D-rendering performance

[@user-eb6xm4zl8n]

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[@MrMolchester]

You're always my go-to reviewer after LTT now. Love your videography, story telling and perspective. Brave of you to say its not over-priced but that's exactly what I think too. People will just be mad because they can't afford it but as the benchmarks show, you really don't need to have it unless you're spending big money on the rest of the PC and monitor anyway. If you can't afford it, it's not for you.

[@wiggenvan]

Did you happen to try any undervolting? Did power/tdp savings compare to the 3000 series?

[@talking_mudcrab]

Looking forward to your ITX build with this card!

[@kawhikowainotkawaii6534]

just a friendly comment from a passerby. NVENC is pronounced N-V-Enc, not N-Venc. Most youtubers pronounce it like the latter for some reason, but at Nvidia it’s pronounced like the former. Great review btw :) Cheers!

[@dariodesu]

INSANE performance, awesome review as always

[@BlingJ.]

4090 it cant play 4k native 144 fps a game which is years old cyberpunk so

[@ydid687]

@@BlingJ. it literally can watch the video before commenting bull 4:01

[@dhaumya23gango75]

@@ydid687 4090 gets around 80fps at 4k high/ultra (rt off/dlss off) vs the 3090ti getting 50fps at the same settings in cp2077. Check other benchmarker's results. Even with rt turned off at native 4k cp2077 is more demanding than Gow, Control and Dl2. I think this guy turned on dlss by mistake.

[@ydid687]

@@dhaumya23gango75 no one does better bench-marking than gamers nexus, digital foundry and optimum tech except some enthusiast websites

[@lande.r1]

Those AV1/H.264 comparison screenshots are greatly appreciated, thank you.

[@NezzNHLive]

now fitting THAT in an itx case... good luck

[@romxxii]

He's already talked about that during the "unboxing phase" of this review embargo. The FE is fine, the partner cards are the challenge.

[@keskincandas]

Awesome performance, awesome content. My favourite RTX 4090 review so far! 👍🏼

[@Melia_67]

Insane performance obviously. However; for me personally; I'm only interested in what a potential $600-$700 4070 would offer this generation. If the 4070 can matches the performance of an 3090 let's say, then that's an instant buy for me. It is all I need at 144hz 1440p gaming honestly.

[@BOZ_11]

"If the 4070 can matches the performance of an 3090" - no chance in hell, though it'll be close

[@Melia_67]

@@BOZ_11 Well last time out the RTX 3070 matched the performance of the 20 series flagship card (2080Ti) so you never know maybe we will see that again with the 4070.

[@BOZ_11]

@@Melia_67 that's wrong. check online

[@kschoe05]

@@BOZ_11 sounds like you bought a 3090 haha

[@BOZ_11]

@@kschoe05 haha, yeah i did. BUT, fact is, the 3070 is a bit slower than a 2080Ti; i think we're deluded on how "good" the 3000 series was, since the bump from 2080Ti to 3080 was only 30%+ The 4000 range is as big of a bump as the 980 to 1080

[@gdfan618]

you remain the best tech channel dude. ur hard work pays off. keep it up!

[@TarikDurak]

Excited to see what can be done to make this power draw more manageable with undervolting

[@BlingJ.]

4090 it cant play 4k native 144 fps a game which is years old cyberpunk so

[@dzejkob8]

@@BlingJ. ?

[@keybokatze1927]

@@dzejkob8 Bros just mad he pre ordered Cyber Punk

[@dzejkob8]

@@keybokatze1927 lmao

[@TarikDurak]

@@dzejkob8 Don't even know why he bothered replying that to my comment ... It has absolutely zero to do with undervolting the card.

[@armannasr3681]

Thank you so much, The only Reviewer who puts Blender/Vray benchmark!!!

[@infinitezest3912]

This has me really excited for the 5070 and the 5080.

[@laniakeafilament2730]

240fps on ultra 4k cyberpunk 2077

[@Erribell]

1800$

[@alpharoo2581]

@@Erribell exponential tech increase, linear price increase.

[@RG6Snipers]

Would be great to see a vid on what cases work best. Which is the smallest case that fits a 4090 that we know of?

[@Expev1a]

Alternate Title: Nvidia RTX Big Brick Edition Review

[@itayraviv2422]

Whole pc gpu

[@kepliasrathalos180]

bRiTX 4090

[@MFMArt]

Great review ali, another win for prosumers with gaming tendencies:D As a 3d artist and gamer I can't wait to grab this hopefully tomorrow

[@TurntableTV]

Given its beefy size I reckon you'll need a spacious case for it.

[@romxxii]

the FE is shorter than the 3090Ti

[@lambyi]

@@romxxii but thicker

[@Sentinelprime250]

@@lambyi I believe the thickness is the same no? I think he mentioned it in his previous video but I can't remember off the top of my head

[@chnlng00]

OT will water cool it anyway, so that will slim it down a lot.

[@Dev-hv4pt]

He already put out a video showing the SFF cases that it can fit in.

[@pepeduran]

Thank you for adding V-Ray benchmarks

[@r00k1ee]

when something launches I think about how it will perform and suddenly you drop a video then It clarifies all questions I have in my mind. So, thank you Optimum

[@CribbsTV]

Always the best gpu reviews in terms of quick and informative performance numbers and most importantly, features like hardware encoding that so many others don't even bother to mention.

[@muinzakaria9292]

i agree on that thought about the price, most other reviewer will tell you otherwise. looking forward to your best itx build with this card

[@sdelaney]

Hi Ali, What GPU would you recommend for a 1440p 240hz monitor? You mentioned at the end that the 4090 is really only for 4k/1440p 360hz. Would a 4080 be what I should be aiming for?

But.. can it run crysis?

[@MaelstromHellblast]

Great video as always, now I think a lot of people here would like to see some SFF related content (temps and fitting, perhaps with the 3rd parties cards)

[@Ozilus21]

I hope you do another video about undervolting, the one with the 3090 was really interesting

[@singert66]

The 4090 is almost as big as his Arms damn

[@padnomnidprenon9672]

Thanks for the video. You explain things the sensible and sensitive way. This I appreciate and can compare to your feeling on the product !

[@KM-kl2wu]

Best review so far well detailed

[@steeveabitbol2466]

Just ordered the Alienware 3423 qdOLED. And planning on getting this card. Good to go ??

[@KalebSDay]

Now we just need your undervolt guide for the 4090 like you did for the 3080 before haha.

[@coolvinay]

Nice review as usual. Wish you had included couple of undervolt power/performance charts to see how it would fit in ITX cases. You are the only person I would rely on to see such benchies :)

[@joelconolly5574]

This is the performance gains that we expected to see from 2080 Ti to 3080 Ti/3090. But it took them this long to reach that matrics. Glad the 4000 isn't just overhyped their performance. They actually exceed expectations.

[@belema22]

Things I love about this video: - general approach to presenting your data with graphs, frame viewing and comparisons with other GPUs - the test rig that you used (almost exactly what I have bar the motherboard - your mad game skills! Awesome video, I watched this one first before all the other noise! Thank you

[@scragglie]

just bought myself a 3080 for 700 bucks. im definitely happy with my 3080 but i cant lie that 4090 performance is absolutely insane. i cant believe im saying this but i have to agree i think the 4090 is correctly priced.

[@Gun10001]

Nice video man, love the straight to the point style! Also what are the specs of the rest of the system you tested this on?

[@hifuncautismboi2350]

Considering Nvidia and Intel have been known to buy good reviews, this was absolutely bought. 1. Gamers Nexus showed it hitting almost 500 watts on more than one occasion 2. You exclusively chose benchmarks that were in the 2x range while almost all reviewers agree in will get a 50-80% rastur buff at 4k max settings 3. There is no world where $1,600 is okay and all other reviewers agree with that. We used to be able to get top tier consumer performance for $700 and titan class performance for $1,000. Prices like the lock out a vast majority of gamers who crave the latest and greatest. By pricing this out of reach for most they cator exclusively to their customers with deep pockets while ignoring their primary audience. 4. You just sound like you don't believe what you're saying, almost like there's a nvidia representative holding you hostage. 5. Other reviewers made it very clear that DLSS 3.0 is very similar in its issues to DLSS 1.0 and is definitely better suited as an early stage DLSS replacement instead of a flushed out upgrade

[@dvne4304]

Those shoulder workouts paying off

[@PabzRoz]

Na come one dude don't fall for it and say the 4090 isn't overpriced at 1600 bucks because you're comparing it to the 3090 at 1500 bucks. That's the exact trap Nvidia set up because the 3090 was always ridiculous and over priced at 1500 dollars. So the fact the 4090 is only 100 more doesn't change the fact it's 100 more than a previously overpriced card. That's not really a fair comparison that's just a marketing trap. "Look it's only $100 more than our previous 3090 even though our 3090 was ridiculously overpriced" Not to mention the 3090ti at 2000. They made the prices on those cards ridiculous to normalize it and convince you that type of pricing is worth it.

[@user-eb6xm4zl8n]

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[@Обовсём-э9х]

Thanx for the video. Which monitor do you recommend sticking with: still 2k or 4k is a new solid choice with these cards?

[@Wyn3e]

It’s a 4090 guess what res u should be running at

[@Rayden440]

With a 4090, you want 4k. Not 4k60Hz, you'll want something that can do 4k120Hz.

[@soultouch08]

First

[@smycbrothers]

Do you recommend where to get the founders edition in Australia? Is that available here?

[@Cookstuh]

Was anything overclocked or was everything running straight out the box

[@Youthereogre]

Can anyone tell me about peak temps? I have a friend of mine who tells me at certain temps, performance decreases. Anyone able to tell me what temperature this would be?

[@wertacus]

The only techtuber swol enough to make the 4090 look normal sized. I'm ready for the itx build.

[@ogremair803]

While I'm not playing games 4k, I'll soon be getting the new Alienware QD Widescreen and would love to play on max settings with RT. As blessed as I am with my current setup, I won't be able to play over 1080p without sacrificing high fps.

[@swirvin_625]

What cpu are you using? 5800x3D??

[@jawn_1086]

For anybody who has a 30 series card, av1 is on ALL intel Grus, so you can use an arc gpu’s to stream

[@fiffy6572]

how do you play and record the *same* game in overwatch with two different GPU?

[@ThisGuyDrives]

I have 4090 with a 7950x3D and it truly is insane with a 49" 2k 120hz monitor. Looking forward to getting a 4k monitor in the next year now that they are finally selling some capable of over 200fps. The 3DMark Benchmark has my build between 95-99% better than all other results. I imagine there are 2 reasons the scores were not higher. Liquid coold, not water cooled and no over clocking.

[@Harrison.DuRant]

Can't wait for the 4080 16 GB review. That's my Christmas present to myself if it gets good reviews.

[@jimss596840]

Could you please make a video on how suitable is 4090 in a itx case

[@MCBeremus]

Great vid from my favorite reviewer!

[@ObiHornchen12]

Im passionately waiting for your first build with the Ryzen 7950x and the RTX 4090. Hope you choose a mid tower build with an AIO for the beginning, because I need inspiration for my setup… don’t know which mid tower case to choose and don’t know which case can fit the 4090 properly. Maybe the NXZT H7 flow?

[@LunchBoxLazers]

So is the stream output quality boost in performance primarily from the dual encoders on the 4090 or from AV1??? Would love to know more about that.

[@cars1dA]

Thx for detailed test about input lagg too. U are the nr1 !

[@bobvila4381]

Do you have the wobbly fan edition? Hope mine doesn't have the wobbly fan feature....

[@jaynayy]

Are you going to be testing the liquid suprim version? Also what do you think your timeline will be for a new build? I am thinking about it :)

[@tamaantar]

Was waiting for your review

[@bradley9856]

would be nice to see the rtx3080 in these benchmarks as well, but very informative video as always!

[@ricks_toys]

Is there something broken with Cyberpunk or the 4090 too weak to get 60fps at max settings without DLSS and fake frames?

[@lxpcfc]

Perfomance is excellent ofc. But why do you need an interpolation when your framerate on latest generation card is high already?

[@GrahamScanlonDrums]

Was hoping you would talk about undervolting performance, but I guess that will be another video!

[@user-eb6xm4zl8n]

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[@yes_temp_sem]

Can't wait for tests on ITX cases!

[@PeterZin]

Is the difference any noticeable at such high frame rates?

[@Petch85]

What about DP 1.4 and not 2.0 should one use HDMI 2.1 on this card in stead of DP? Also I think they cheeped out on PCI-E 5.0

[@F1fanatic21]

Great review man, thanks for putting positive energy out there

[@Nateyo]

I'd be really interested in seeing a video comparing Nvidia, Intel and AMD AV1 encoders compared to very slow CPU software encoding. Whenever AMD's GPUs come out

[@LowBlow]

The reviewer completely overlooked another very worthy use case for this card: VR. Flight simmers and sim racers who go about their business in VR will want this card. Day 1 buy for me.

[@ballsconsumer77]

really good review, honestly would way this is better than LTT's one, more info on the things that actually matter

[@Cool_Toolbar]

Can’t you cut down the latency with Nvidia reflex mode when using the AI frame generator?

[@driptic]

That card is so quiet wow!! Awesome video as always 💪

[@Bober_Kvrva]

What would you reccomend for power supplies with the FormD T1 and the 4090? There are not a whole lot of options for SFX, until Q4 2022 (FSP Dagger) with the Gen5 PCiE being added along with some other SFX PSU.

[@DavidGarciajrtx]

Cool master nr200p max setup with 4090 and new processors?