NVIDIA RTX 4080 Review - Before You Buy..

[@optimumtech]

Correction - RTX 4090 MSRP is $1600, not $1500 as I state in the video. This makes it 33% more expensive than the 4080, but 36% faster (pure rasterization). Realistically that's still a worthwhile margin to consider and shows that the 4080 should be far cheaper.

[@Doflaminguard]

Not. 1 to 1 price-performance increase isnt worth. There's no improvment at all.

[@tars3249]

@@Doflaminguard Within the same generation 1-1 is not unusual. It's when the price to performance is 1-1 with the last generation that you get bad value. So like the 4080 being 1-1 with the 3080 or other higher end 3000 series cards.

[@Doflaminguard]

@@tars3249 what I'm saying is improvement in performance but an increase in price together isnt an improvement.

[@livedreamsg]

@@Doflaminguard It’s not an improvement in price to performance, but it is in the way that you get what you pay for.

[@paulcox2447]

@@Doflaminguard it is an improvement though dude. It's a better card lol. Buy what you can afford that's all it comes down to

[@dstarr3]

The worst part about the years of crypto-induced GPU scarcity and scalpers and such is that they've shown nVidia just how much people are willing to pay for GPUs and now they're just taking those scalper prices and making them the new MSRPs because they know people will pay it

[@dipper5835]

Because there was nothing else, now isn't the case. There are plenty better options, the ball is in our court this time around. Before it was in their court and we were not even close to touching the ball

[@dstarr3]

@@dipper5835 Yeah, I'm hoping competition starts driving prices back down real soon. Also the power draw of recent CPUs and GPUs is out of control and needs to be reined back in, like, yesterday.

[@shinjincai]

@@dstarr3 AMD already has, their flagship card is $600 less than the 4090

[@HuntaKiller91]

True People can be really stupid Buying old tech for $1000 makes me lmao🤣

[@cheesyriceo4]

If that really was the case, then the 4090 would’ve been priced higher, since people are willing to pay scalpers over $2,000 for it. They only raised it $100. I think theyre going the movie popcorn route. Where the most expensive option is the biggest value, and everything below we think twice

[@B3TR0Z]

The 4090 needs to come down to 1200 and the 4080 to 750 dollars.

[@HoldMeForever]

Preach 👏

[@nekron75]

Wishful thinking...

[@lordofdrones]

lol lmao

[@xnyte]

4080 should be $699

[@Dan-uf2vh]

Then all of them would get scalped.

[@Alby911]

Well played, Jensen. Convince the crowd that the 4090 is actually good value.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

Better value than the 4080, for sure. Good value overall? Only if it pays for itself because you use it for work.

[@AuDiGo6]

I wasn't expecting this conclusion on this channel.

[@maybe-ef4ch]

Thank god we're getting competition from AMD, I think I'd pass away if this was all we had.

[@focuswest2736]

That and the soon to come intel cards. More comp the better

[@MrEvan1932]

I’d move to consoles if there was only Nvidia

[@9manny99]

Well you thought that yet here we here are.

[@Keeki549]

Y’all been saying thank god for competition but here we still are lmaooo

[@Krossfyre]

Unfortunately depending on what you do AMD is not any form of real competition. If you do ML outside of some very specific cases AMD is non-viable. For 3D modeling AMD performs much worse. Despite how crucial these workloads are becoming, especially ML, AMD has not yet put the investment (and may flat out not be able) to make themselves competitors in the professional space.

[@enthusiasticgmgaming4165]

Thanks for making the 4090 looking like the better deal Nvidia.... $1200 is way too much for this.... Interested in the 7900 XT/XTX. Oh yeah and I definitely dont wanna deal with that Power Connector

[@deyanfreedom231]

Yes

[@ca9inec0mic58]

Why are people already assuming that the 7900XTX will be faster? Lets wait for the benchmarks to come out

[@enthusiasticgmgaming4165]

@@ca9inec0mic58 Did I say that? No. I said I'm interested in them.... I don't assume things I have no knowledge about. The cards are not available and no benchmarks so please don't put words in my mouth

[@InsuredFrames]

@@ca9inec0mic58 4080 has 76SMs and the 7900xtx has 96CUs

[@mistysohigh5550]

I can't wait for the RTX 5080, double the performance of the RTX 4080 for only 2000USD. Definitely worth considering!

[@ibadriba]

If you consider general inflation and scarcity of resources and nobody knows what the Russia-Ukraine conflict brings, you're probably not even wrong. I'd say we won't get below 1000 bucks from here on.

[@KellyWu04]

Nah 1.5x performance for $1999 NVIDIA will say it’s faster than 4090 or something.

[@DoubleOhSilver]

Double the power connectors too

[@Leroy1]

@@ibadriba The war isn't the reason for all of this. It's actually comical that some people think that.

[@ibadriba]

@@Leroy1 it isn't. And if you'd read carefully, I never said that. The consequences of the war is what may have an influence on it: new economical and political bonds and treaties, maybe even other conflicts to arise etc.

[@joshsmallwood2603]

AMD is the way to go this year. hopefully nvidia wakes up and the pricing is better next year.

[@chickenfart4728]

I'm excited to build my sister's pc with the 7900xt, shes gonna be so happyy

[@zamn5235]

No 7900xt/xtx benchmark yet.

[@adamek9750]

Yeah but the price of the 7900 xt makes no sense

[@thelittledetailscr7231]

They will produce even fewer cards than nvidia produced the 4090. I guarantee you will not be able to buy one.

[@user-mr1ph2ie3e]

@@adamek9750 of course, maybe $1200 msrp is better, or even the biggest model at $1545 makes more sense, of course

[@PropaneWP]

Nvidia vendors are now obligated to say "For only $400 more, you can get an extra large 4090" on every 4080 sale.

[@ChusmaChusme]

6:21 Make sure to finish that stabilization.

[@AnabolicSaagAloo]

Throughout the chip shortage I chose to stick with my 2070 Super because at the time it still gave me adequate performance. The card I was waiting for in my mind was the 4080 but looking at the price Nvidia is asking it's a hard sell when you see the price to performance of the 4090. I don't even want an affordable 3000 series after waiting this long. There's no reason other than greed for this card costing more than $1000

[@kyleboonwaat]

Super relatable. What did you end up choosing?

[@sweiscool]

Same here. I'm sticking with my 2070 for now. At least there's DLSS that gives more life to my GPU. P.S: Thanks to inflation, 4080 is 1500 USD, and 4090 is almost 2000 USD in my place 😔

[@Vartazian360]

4080 should be at LEAST $200 cheaper. the 3080 was $699. 71% price increase. 50% performance increase. That is absolute garbage tier. Good card. TERRIBLE prices. and this is not even considering the aftermarket cards which are $1300-$1500. WTF. AMD come out swinging with that 7900 XTX its looking mighty fine right now.

[@YAAMW]

The 4080 12GB is definitely going to be renamed to the 4070 Ti

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

Agreed. And I wonder if it'll give what should be 4070 non-Ti performance.

[@thanatosor]

Lmao you are right now 😂

[@Panster7]

$1,200 MSRP is absolutely absurd

[@zawiszaczarny1749]

1600€ here in Europe 🤣🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Pividol]

Why is everyone surprised and outraged about the msrp mark up? Its literally our faults for voting the price mark up when buying the scalped cards.

[@chairs-dimension]

RDNA3 is looking like an absolute slam dunk this generation, jeez.

[@DebatraxHD]

Wonder where the 4070 will be placed.

[@Antonis24]

I'm curious to see how much they price the RTX 4060 next year.

[@MrZakarias01]

Probably 600 or 700 $

[@TheRealYeller]

Doebt you'll see this 9 months later, but it'd be nice to see what sort of performance hit we can expect to see (if any) from running obs while gaming with various cpu/gpu combos. I'm most interested in the 7800x3d/4090 performance hit at 4K.

[@justmatt2655]

4080 seems kinda pointless to me. If your budget is that high you might as well go for the 4090, and if it's not the 70 tier cards offer wayyy better value. The 4080 will only make sense if they bring the price down to (or preferably below) £1k.

[@adriantravels]

Ton's of tech channels out there, but the info and insight here is just better.

[@chriswho12345]

love ur new graph design, it's more intuitive and faster to comprehend

[@Javi008f]

thanks to tsmc for that 4nm process my 4090 300w to 370w and 52c when gaming.

[@Skrenja]

I've known many people who've had bad experiences with AMD GPUs but they're looking like the only option going forward now. These 40 series prices are just too insane.

[@aspzx]

Given the cool temps of the 4080, I'm keen to see what SFFPC solutions Ali will come up with.

[@SatchmoBronson]

At triple slot it won't even fit in half the cases he usually builds in. But it is viable in, what, like the NR200P? I think the Meshify?

[@aspzx]

@@SatchmoBronson yeah true but the cooler is the same as the one used by the 4090 which is clearly overkill. I think it's likely that board partners will produce smaller variants or indeed water cooled options that will fit in smaller cases.

[@ps3guy22]

@@SatchmoBronson FormD T1 as well

[@BuildsWithV]

Someone correct me if I’m wrong because I’m trying to understand this. So the 3080 vs 4080 In reality isn’t a huge jump in fps when not using the fake frames, right? Why is the 4080 priced so outrageous if it doesn’t boost much (again without the fake frames). Is Nvidia just trying to fake it till they make it? Shady if that’s true.

[@paulcox2447]

It's like 30-50 percent more performance, especially with ray tracing on and over double if you use frame generation

[@ChazMcClure]

They are also only showing 4k because almost every game is CPU bottlenecked at 1440p with both cards, so its really not even worth it unless you wanna play at 4k.

[@GeneralAeon]

Going from 1660 to 4080 soon and cant wait lmao

[@dracolnyte]

6:45 i actually can notice frame generation, look at the red silk road sign flickering. that be quite annoying during game play if it happens often and everywhere else

[@RubyisCute]

Does that brick come with mortar?

[@Ahiggins13]

I know its way more expensive than it should be, but do you think a 4080 for someone building a ne PC from scratch is worth it?

[@markaceto]

Exactly. I love the rationale that “the 2nd most expensive 40 series is a bad value, so you should spend $400 more in the most expensive option”

[@R0mst3r]

I'm in the same situation. Started looking into building high-end-ish PC from scratch for games and fun, and I can tell you that it looks not really good right now in September 2023. If I decided to build it now, it would be i7 13700K on a Z790 chipset with DDR5 RAM and the rest of the money would be spent on GPU. But 14th gen of Intel processors coming in about 6 weeks (the end of October 2023), which is a refresh of 13th gen. So if I waited 2-3 month, I'd be able to build something like i7 14700K+mobo with Z790 chipset+DDR5 RAM and some kind of a GPU. BUT... 5000 series of nvidia GPUS is rumored to be announced in late 2024. As well as 15th gen of intel CPUs is coming in fall 2024, which will have (according to rumors) a new architecture and so on and so forth. Granted, 'announced' doesn't mean I'd be able to buy, lets say, 5090 right away, it will probably take a month or two or even 3 minimum (and realistically even more than that) after the announcement for the top-tier cards to hit retail stores. It is indeed a hard time for anyone who wants to build a PC from scratch, because if you build it now or 2-3 month from now, you could miss on something that the new generations of hardware will offer in a year. And if you wait a year or year and a half, you could end up in a situation where the prices are even bigger nightmare than they are today, because the AI boom could create new shortages in GPUs and drive the prices even higher. I'm a little bit all over the place in this comment, but that's my honest illustration of what's going on in the hardware market right now.

[@greenbow7888]

1:41 Yeah and sadly the 3080 was not worth the $1000 price tag i.m.o. The vRAM buffer was not big enough to justify that price.

[@OPGamified]

I really like the production quality of your videos 🖤🖤🖤

[@heyflo1]

The new 4000 series can be as good as it can be, as long as it's overpriced, NVIDIA can shove it up their bottom. They're actually hurting themselves with these prices so AMD will be my choice with the 7900XTX. Just waiting for the reviews!

[@MrNexyto]

your black ring looks awesome, where did u get it?

[@Isildan88]

Optimum Tech, does 4080 fit to NZXT H1 v1 case and will be 650 watt ok?

[@vijaisuraj4700]

I couldn't help but subscribe. Very thorough reviews.

[@GATOtyger]

Can you PLEASE mount the 4090 with EKWB in the Ncase M1? Please please please you're our M1 king, you can move it later to meshilicious but Ncase first please

[@Columbus666]

The only thing I can see is that I should have gone to the gym like you to hold this card in my hands. You predicted the future bro !

[@Adrian_au]

Are all these framerate benchmarks @04:29 with DLSS & Frame Gen. on or off?

[@lawyerlawyer1215]

How did you got dlss3 on cyberpunk?

[@electrofatal1298]

Awsome reviews as usual

[@Leroy1]

Before watching the video, I just want to say that the fan design looks sick on that GPU

[@cris_stn]

with the dual nvend encoder can you stream and record gameplay in obs at the same time ?

[@brandonevo25]

Great information and video.

[@basicuser54]

Enjoyed the review as always. Here’s a comment to bump the channel

[@Zhuhaiboy1]

How do you turn on frame generation in cyberpunk? I don't see the option

[@ashishasawa8316]

But 4090 not coming at 1600 usd MSRP, its street price at my region is around 2000-2500 usd. But 4080 is available at MSRP

[@JamesEPhilp]

Feels like NVIDIA have completely lost touch with basic product pricing principals, but are instead relying 100% on 'what will the market bear' as thier mantra. Let's hope the competition can rein them in in the coming generations, as the only thing right now seems to be previous gen NVIDIA stock. Not exactly consumer-centric.

[@gugdghdhjg2063]

Really good comparison graphs.

[@Surge44]

its like having an extra heater in your house

[@user-ug6xh5eo9r]

There's a 600/700 euro difference between the 4080 and 4090. I bougt the 4080 because it's the max I need, without overspending the 600/700.

[@The8blackwidow8]

I killed my 3080ti today and thought about just buying a 4080. Thanks for your review but i think i will wait for the 4080 Super launch to factor into my decision.

[@maleksar227]

Hello , @Optimum Tech , Why i can’t turn on the subtitle in your videos?

[@Piqued-Pug]

Is it worth upgrading from a 3060TI to a 4080 now?

[@HarryS77]

Just don't buy the 4080 when the super is cheaper.

[@Atheismo9760]

Can't wait to see what the 4070 is like.

[@Kurisu-SanYT]

probaly will be 700 to 900 bucks

[@BlGASH]

@@Kurisu-SanYT def 900

[@mechano6505]

4080 12GB lol

[@Atheismo9760]

@@mechano6505 No, that'll be the 4070 ti.

[@Atheismo9760]

@@Kurisu-SanYT From the the info we've been given it would be 500 bucks. Hopefully it's true, but we'll see.

[@oceanmoist8553]

plz review alienware AW3423DWF supposedly has perfect color accuracy and CRAZY black to white pixel response times

[@extremelydave]

Well, it looks like I'm going to have to sell body parts to upgrade my video cards. It's pretty insane what video card prices have done in the last 2 years....

[@zawiszaczarny1749]

Ikr smh… Pc gaming has become „nothing for broke Bois“ lol

[@ardazgames]

And I'm over here chilling with my 3060 TI.

[@TomasRamoska]

Can I still fit this card into NR200P MAX?

[@arunantony3207]

I don’t think the cards price is justified at 1200. Rather buy an AMD at that price for just pure raster performance

[@oatflakes6141]

Where can I buy fe cards in Australia?

[@itachisvaccination3123]

Can I just said, you motivated me to focus on simply performance. I got an Ncase M1 along with items required to do dual rad custom loop aside from fittings. I deciding not going that route and starting to focus on fitness.

[@Mattyplays94]

glad i got my rtx 3080 for £650 on offer here in uk , it will serve me well for next 5 years :-)

[@onlytiramisu]

let me guess.. 3080 TUF from OCUK 2 months ago?

[@deyanfreedom231]

Ahahahahahahahaha

[@johnnyboogalo4897]

10gb will show it's age down the line.Should have waited for 7900 cards which will blow all nvidia cards away that ain't the 4090

[@weroliera]

Clearly Nvidia asked all these reviewers to not show mw2 😂

[@cheater00]

lmao

[@Jacobvb11]

Are the new cards bad on mw2?

[@damongambuti]

@@Jacobvb11 probably because of driver issues lmao

[@propixia]

When is the nzxt H5, 4090 build coming I sense it 🙏

[@ndgoliberty]

Wen 2 slot 4080e?

[@TanCheeHong0323]

Still thinking how you gonna fit all this monsters into an ITX build 🤔

[@DrHakennase]

Its 1500€ here in germany 2000@ for the RTX4090 the Euro lost so much value. My whole highend pc from 4 years ago cost me like 2500

[@JohnEarth629]

WHAT ABOUT the ELEPHANT in the ROOM !!! do NOT forget that the 1080 was $599, the 2080 $699, and 3080 $699 and now the 4080 is $1200, for averaging 50% to 60% more performances each generation.🤨

[@doublezeta4s]

I'm wondering when Frame Gen Updates come out

[@andreasnielsen6037]

Looking forward to your upcoming 4090 ITX builds, so I have something to copy.

[@stemders]

With the performance difference between 4090 and 4080, as well as between 4000 and 3000 series, the cards should have been named as such: 4090 = 4090 4080 16gb = 4070 4080 12gb = 4060 Great job nvidia, selling 4070 for 1200$ and creating this elusive choice between 4070 and 4090 with only 400$ difference

[@YAAMW]

I think at this point no one cares about the difference between the 3080 and 4080. For $1200, everyone wants to know the difference between the 4080 and the 3090 Ti

[@CarlosHughes-y1i]

In the current market (at least on amazon) the difference between a 4080 super and the 4090 is about 600 to 700 dollars. Not worth the extra money in my pocket book

[@Cooldude1991c]

I wonder how much 4070 will cost as I'm still using 1070

[@spektrumB]

The bet the renamed 4070ti will be $899 and regular 4070 would be $799.

[@NoobAlike]

definitely feels like they just want to sell all the 4090s they can, it's just so fast compared to rest of the cards, anything below it just feels awkwardly placed

[@OGaccking]

probably going to get the 7900 xt or just keeping the 3080 instead, no way I can fit this thing into my Ssupd meshroom s.

[@ooharloo]

I’m now into sff builds so amd is the move with the 7900xt/x

[@dylanjastle]

4090 msrp is $1600, not $1500

[@flizzynotfound1761]

Can you review lamzu Atlantis?

[@prithvib8662]

Def going with the XTX

[@Zilaxe]

Nice, PC reviews before black friday

[@xpodx]

I'm gonna wait for the 5090 to replace my 3090

[@CuisineArt]

guess I wont be upgrading my SFF PC ._.

[@technicallyoverwhelmed2948]

got a rtx 4080 asus rog strix oc edition for 1k... which was a good deal

[@niospartan]

Seems kinda stupid that nvidia made cards that can do 4k high fps but then gimped its actual output to dp 1.4a so the handful of games that could do 4k higher than 120hz dont get them exactly or personally nore interesting high fps 1440p 360hz which is more likely to be happening sooner.

[@speedibusrex]

Buy? Where?

[@iJansport]

Meanwhile I'm still using my 1080 from 2018. It might be time to upgrade soon.

[@yellowlemonmothfreak]

Did Nvidia provide you with it or do you have this kind of money

[@royandescartes]

sorry but i will NOT be buying this Nvidia card. what the hell is up with these prices? AMD all the way.

[@bryzeer5075]

It's 2022. Most jobs pay at least $20/hr $1,200 isn't a "lot" of money

[@dafaqu694]

@@bryzeer5075 DUH not everyone lives on the F-ing NA/EU man Think about ppl who live on the 3rd world country/asia LMAO

[@bryzeer5075]

@@dafaqu694 Those people nobody cares about. Only the US matters.

[@arel508]

Please don't buy this, and don't even buy the 3000 series at the current prices. One of the reasons the 4000 series is so overpriced is to make you buy their shitty stock of 3000 series which they don't want to lower their price.

[@ExistableYT]

it’s to do with stock. people don’t get the 4080 because of the value, due to the scalpers for the 4090 and how long you have to wait for stock the 4080 is now better value 😂

[@ivanbardov]

Any chance that 4070-ish cards will get rid of this nasty, stupid, defective and unnecessary connector? The prices are insane already, but they just make it even worse with this BS connector. Last things consumers want is to see their expensive equipment on fire.

[@HOTPLATEGAMING]

Gonna wait for 5000 series 5 TIMES MOAR!

[@HerbalErectus]

i currently only have a gtx 750ti atm so this is a massive upgrade for me

[@xpodx]

Did you get a 4080 then?

[@HerbalErectus]

@@xpodx yes ive had it for 2 months now and its been a mindblowing difference

[@xpodx]

@seanodonovan4782 haha of course ha I've been in pc gaming for over 10 years. Gt 630, 660, 960, r9 390, 980 ti, 980 ti sli, 1080 ti, 1080 ti sli, 3070, and currently a 3090. Saving for the 5090.

[@alexz2858]

4080 is great when you don’t like tgp beyond 300 watts.

[@edwardwilliams3815]

Happy with my 4080, moving from a 1660ti laptop lol

[@ΠετροςΣπληνακης]

Do you think this could be installed in the A4H2O? I know dimensions are fine but I am more concerned about airflow for this FE.

[@henrikpflanz6177]

9900k 1080 ti 1080p 240hz still going strong

[@henrikpflanz6177]

btw the monitor is the 251rx msi

[@2foolish]

3:33 it’s 33% more cash actually