Beat Leasing Exposed as a Scam

[@DJPain1]

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[@mariogooch9634]

@@DJPain1 I am tech challenged, u are much more advanced than I. Still trying too learn all this gear I've collected over the past few years. I appreciate the response and offer. I will check out ya pack. Hopefully I can get it and get to the business of making actual music 🎶 what this is all supposed to be about. Thanks for all u do.

[@Taeodoestech]

Lemonaide looks amazing! 🚀

[@FrumSkratch]

Great video man very informative,I was wondering if you could make a tutorial video on how a sync contract would look like and how to fill it out ? I appreciate all your hard work thanks again!

[@DJPain1]

@@FrumSkratch it’s a really easy form, nothing that requires a video imo (just provide your PRO info, address, name etc and sign) but I have several videos about synch licensing that would be more helpful

[@FrumSkratch]

@@DJPain1 Yo you're very much appreciated brother thank you!

[@RuslanKD]

Great video. I’ve done fairly big syncs on a beat lease. I did exactly what you described. Reach out to the producer, connected them with my sync company, everyone got paid. All is well. If producers communicate it’s fairly simple.

[@DJPain1]

🎯

[@kayodakonspiracy]

Whats the sync company called?

[@SlikkWayne]

Are you looking for any submissions?

[@LifestriderX]

Love you Ruslan, Glory to Jesus Christ!

[@GabeLacayoStudios]

The producer community appreciates you Pain! 👍🏽 Thank you for all the knowledge drops 💯

[@DJPain1]

My pleasure!!

[@corneliusjenkins213]

The only problem i see with leases is if the songs blows up and u want the exclusive the producer would jack the price up due to the fact of it going viral 😬

[@DJPain1]

They might, they might not. It's completely hypothetical, so no need to be mad at something that hasn't happened.

[@awarepenguin3376]

I'm with you. Beat leasing allows the smaller artist to compete with the big dogs and the producer gets a bigger cut if the record goes viral. Win-win. The alternative is to steal beats and then they end up with 0% after all that success.

[@ciarandoc028]

Anyone who steals a beat I wish em luck because they’ll go bankrupt in court before their career lifts off 😂

[@Treyco]

@3rddimensionbeats619that’s what a mixtape is that’s all lil Wayne do

[@islandgirl024]

Too much garbage Artist have to deal with when it comes to producers. That's why artist who can produce their own beats will win

[@DrummaDinho]

imo leasing is great for starting artist, there is no need to buy an exclusive beat with 5 montly listeners. you should find your voice/sound first. after that would be a great time to lock in with a producer to go to the next level. but hey just opinons.

[@junyelf.9599]

It would suck your first song turns out to be the best or biggest hit you’ll ever put out and you don’t even own it. If you have the money get the exclusive. Only lease if you can’t afford to own.

[@XplainLuxury86]

That's what he said.

[@MrJoosebawkz]

Damn I feel this so hard. I hate selling exclusives to random people who just started making music and are already worried about splitting their royalties or using the same beat as somebody else. I’m always trying to talk people out of it. One day I sold 2 exclusives for like $700 to some random guy that never used them and since then Ive felt too guilty to do it again lmao.

[@JHBeatz1]

I sold a non exclusive licence for 250$ to a big artist and he still havent used it, initially he wanted the exclusive.

[@StreetfighterU]

Exclusive beats are almost never worth it (imo tho) because of the labour a producer puts into it vs benefits gained from it. Imo The time and effort put into a beat and for it to be exclusive has to be worth a LOT, and not just money wise but also getting your name out there and exposed to a larger fan base (likely being the rapper/singer’s fan base) when the official track gets released. If the artist doesn’t have that then what happens is that they start flaking or they disappear after the hype you get from working with them and seeing potential visions (that unfortunately don’t always pan out).

[@KoronCooper]

😂 it's crazy because I have a similar story from 1999 for 2k with 3 instrumentals and dude still hasn't dropped anything. However it did assist him into a decent situation behind the scenes.

[@KoronCooper]

Now this is great knowledge. Thanks fam. Subscribed.

[@Chase_Sound]

You had me in the beginning with that opener 😂I was like wait wtf don’t he lease beats. But regardless thank you for these explanations as someone newer to producing and selling beats this is very useful information

[@btrue7386]

It's almost like unknown artists want to sell the beat to the listener rather than their own talent

[@buzzbuzzard3809]

Because they don't have any talent

[@exhaust4246]

Trust me, if they could lay down vocals they would.. But not everyone's made for that and that's okay

[@growingoaks]

@@buzzbuzzard3809 saying that only makes you look like a fool. There are a lot of talented people, but the problem is that their marketing is not on point so they get buried underneath the normie trash that gets uploaded

[@logueraps]

@@growingoaksyeah, my music goes under the rug. My song, BLAME is actually produced by DJ Pain.

[@kinmyname]

it can be helpful if you’re wanting to get connected to a certain community and shows some kind of validity

[@tisbutascratch9374]

Bro, thank you for all your videos that you do. i know it can be hard at times, but the people need your vids bro!

[@DJPain1]

I appreciate that

[@JayfkProductions876]

If You Want Exclusives, Then Pay The Price.. Saying Beat Leasing is a scam is One Hell of a Reach 😂

[@DJPain1]

I need to stretch like that before arm days

[@artephank]

It’s like car leasing being a scam:)

[@PerceptualDelicacy]

Much appreciated DJ pain 1 This make artist understand what music is . And from time to time u are the best producer and beat maker on earth will always work with you.

[@DJPain1]

🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@LFiers]

Dropping gems as always. Best producer knowledge of anyone on YT. Much love frlm Australia man. Love your videos! Very inspiring man. Keep up the good work and keep producing!

[@DJPain1]

Appreciate it!

[@virtuousbxr4]

bro real talk thank you for making this because i was being hella ignorant regarding this very same topic on a track i really wanted to write on someones beat and now i have that understanding and can move forward with that project. Thanks bro fr fr

[@DJPain1]

@@virtuousbxr4 that’s amazing, thank you for sharing that 🙏🏽

[@Ben_Ghaxi]

Making a song takes so much more than just a beat why do producers fell like they deserve more than everyone else involved in the creative process is beyond me

[@aboveorbit]

I have 100’s of saved lyrics written on the beat stars app with ready to go material but was crippled with not understanding the business side of beat leasing and whether or not it was right for me and where I’m at with my music career (have distribution but no music on DSP’s yet) Thanks so much for relieving my worries Pain! Inshallah we can work one day when the timing is right I’ll start with a lease of one of your beats lol

[@Dracaveli]

bro u keep it real and educate at the same time. I appreciate you.

[@DJPain1]

Thank you

[@unsubzeroed9792]

Thanks for this genuinely helped me relax cause I produce my own beats as well but sometimes I hear shit play on KZbin and my mind goes off and I start writing and some beats just hit harder than my own sometimes

[@DJPain1]

@@unsubzeroed9792 I feel that

[@GreasyDaddy]

You are such an insane resource man. Thank you.

[@DJPain1]

Glad to help

[@rileyxsko]

I started producing about a year ago and was looking into selling and leasing beats but I don't even know where to begin so I'm grateful I came across your channel. That's a sub. Good looking out.

[@DJPain1]

@@rileyxsko thank you

[@stiptreezy8481]

Thank you for shedding light on these topics! This industry is extremely layered and without people like you we would be much worse off.

[@Taktix-Beats]

Favorite video so far, thanks for the humor! :)

[@blkgostnone4092]

The concept of “leasing” a beat was always a scam 😂

[@schpilkas]

I’ve always been tired of the term. I think a lot of cats mean “licensing.” But even then, you can’t “license” a beat to an artist.

[@blkgostnone4092]

@@schpilkas right How can you stop the artist from re-using ? How can the artist stop the producer from not reselling the beat again 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@admonishmusic]

Answered 1 of my sync questions with this video. I appreciate it 🙏🏼 keep dropping them gems.

[@TheBeatHatahs]

Yeah❗️ Producers should just link up w/ artist and go 🚀🚀🚀 1:42

[@DJPain1]

about 90% of all songs that get uploaded to spotify generate zero dollars in royalties... so nah, this isn't how it works.

[@TheBeatHatahs]

@@DJPain1 but, linking up with an artist or many artist could lead to something one day. Just as you did in the beginning sir. You never know which artist; or what song will get picked up. We all gotta start somewhere. & for us it’s the love of it and the satisfaction of fulfilling our goals. Making Good Music.

[@DJPain1]

@@TheBeatHatahs I did it at the beginning and they all stabbed me in the back and/or fell off because they were lazy and self-destructive. If you want to go down that path, cool. I’m speaking from my own experience though. If I had been leasing beats back then, I would have NEVER felt like I needed to entertain all of these red flag artists.

[@TheBeatHatahs]

@@DJPain1 🫡

[@Omnitual]

as someone in my early stages of making music, this information is huge. thank you

[@KeyPushaBeats]

Exclusive only. If you can’t afford what you like , get a higher paying job. Ownership is key. Leasing beats gives the Artist a false sense of ownership & As a producer you’ll stay broke leasing to broke ppl

[@DJPain1]

That’s so weird, am I hallucinating that my house and my car are paid for with beat lease money? I need professional help.

[@KeyPushaBeats]

@@DJPain1 House & Car? LOL! I had to buy a bigger house just to Fit all 3 of my Foreign Cars in 1 garage from 1 exclusive beat. & I still had $$ leftover for my chauffer

[@jaydineroimg]

Love coming here to check out new content, I’m a recording artist and I have to keep myself updated and informed about music

[@DJPain1]

@@jaydineroimg thankbyoub

[@dollarboylilfresh6960]

Love ya works

[@DJPain1]

Thank you

[@BLACKW3LLMUS1CK]

Always the best info regarding anything music business related. I've learned so much from you. Thanks for all you do!

[@DJPain1]

My pleasure!

[@REPPAMYLOW]

Thanks for explaining that bro

[@CH3FDIZZYLO]

Appreciate this insight, it all confused me when trying to make beats to the point I said fuck it I’m making my own beats and haven’t looked back on it but that’s good to know that people weren’t trying to scam me

[@artephank]

I found your channel from Weaver Beats (from all sources:) making fun of it a bit and I am hooked. Not enough ppl are talking business on yt and no one make so damn sense as You. Thanks!

[@DJPain1]

@@artephank 🙏🏽

[@vandybeats]

I've been subscribed for years. Liking and commenting for support.

[@DJPain1]

Appreciate that

[@GioLennox]

Brooo you're insane!! love the content, keep it up! Appreciate it so much

[@DJPain1]

Appreciate it!

[@9lightsrecords]

Thanks, Pain, for enlightening us with your knowledge. I learned a lot from this video alone. 🙏

[@DJPain1]

My pleasure!

[@T1C3]

11:50 100% the issue in the community

[@doziermuzic]

Thanks you Pain for clearing up that issue.

[@DJPain1]

No problem!

[@thequalitykey]

Makes all the sense I mean why not serve the whole community rather than just a part of the community.🔑💯💎

[@ProdByWarrenKashh]

I believe the issue that may come with sync is if a producer used a loop on a beat from a source that they can't remember exactly where it came from. Then they may have to track down that other 3rd party loop creator. It may be a little extra work but it's worth it.

[@DJPain1]

@@ProdByWarrenKashh if they don’t know, they shouldn’t be selling it

[@knockriobeats]

For sync, it may create issues if there are several different artists that have a lease on the same track. The sync license or library may require exclusive rights as a stipulation to sync the track for the length of time specified. Several artists shopping the same track to different libraries could cause an issue if its supposed to be exclusive with a particular agent.

[@GwizProducer84]

100 accurate. Don’t do leases never had an issue Also care who uses the beat

[@DJPain1]

Has it or is this hypothetical?

[@GwizProducer84]

Bro you cover it all the time. Someone uploads a track to KZbin the first one registers and everyone after gets flagged for copyright

[@DJPain1]

@@GwizProducer84 that’s contentID, which has nothing to do with television or film

[@ntrnt]

@@DJPain1most companies will not accept a record for Sync if there is any piece of the song that isn’t 100% owned by the person they are trying to contract with.

[@9spiraltha1]

Great info 💯

[@DJPain1]

Glad it was helpful!

[@9spiraltha1]

@@DJPain1 Can I send u some music to critique ?

[@prodyeti]

It's baffling how many artist complaints stem from lack of awareness on the legalities. One situation that nobody talks about is when an artist buys an exclusive, prior licensing artists still hold the right to continue using their copy (in all contracts I'm aware of, including beatstars templates). If this is a dealbreaker, they should ask about prior licensors first. If everyone did their homework, wires wouldn't cross nearly as much. I appreciate you bringing light to the industry "what-if"s. The game needs more minds like yours!

[@ripplesakaauditorygenius9682]

As an Artist and a Producer I see both sides. But Producers for the most part copy and paste contract templates and are not transparent whatsoever with anything. Let alone most don't even respond unless it leads to a bag. So how do you do homework on something when you don't know what the assignment is in the first place? How am I to know if you are a sample producer or an instrumentalist that plays every note? And your contract voids you of any responsibility by putting the burden on the artist. And then you don't even mention that you used a major sample? So if my track goes viral and their was a sample that didnt get cleared then I am the only person as the artist that loses anything. IT IS THE PRODUCER OR BEATMAKERS CHOICE TO USE THE SAMPLE SO WHY SHOULDNT YOU BE RESPONSIBLE AS THE PRODUCER FOR CLEARING IT? Especially younger artists wouldnt even know a sample was used most likely. I work with a couple producer that clear any sample they use in a beat they are going to lease or sell... The same legit producers who Don't charge extra for trackouts that are WAVS and dont charge extra for Sync Licenses on anything. Oh yeah and dont expect 50/50 splits on the new master publishing and writing. ALL for free that is, And they make amazing money not up charging for nonsense. Or stealing half of an artists royalties, by retaining ownership in every new master recording from every artist. When you claim the leases are royalty free and we keep 100% of what we make!!!! lol as with any business their is legitimate producers, and then there is scammers. Its not the business. Its the Persons within the business you choose to deal with.. BUT im sorry but not all, but most producers are like the state D.A. There is no regulation or accountability at the production level And they can do what ever they want with no responsibility whatsoever because the contracts all put it on the artist. What about All the beats Ive bought from people that claimed they produced the music but come to find out they stole the beats Much much later? You say do the homework... How am I to know if you are selling me what you say it is? Because Ive lost thousands in my younger years in the business purchasing beats for an entire album I recorded that ended up the Producer stole every single one of the beats he sold me. Unless Ive got lease bag money from upcharging for everything or pre music or trap money how do I go about getting my money and recoup for all the loss I took on a 3 year project? Because they had a lot more money then me So court would just cost me more funds I dont have. And they would just continue the courts or appeal until I couldn't afford to prosecute any more. And look at the Ren and the Kujo situation right now. Kujo stole the sample for sic boi from a Bulgarian choir recording, Leased an unlimited license to ren. Ren got copyright claims and the song removed. The biggest song of his career. A song abut his auto immune battles and an important song to many that use music to heal. under my understanding, while Ren was in treatment for his sickness for some of the Issues he spoke on in the song, when the song first got distributed the distributer forgot to not use content ID, for litterally like a month or so and then Ren updated everything and gave credit to the original producer and the samples. Even though Ren had messaged his entire team not to use Content ID because it was a leased beat. Simple misunderstanding. Well now KUjo claims Ren broke the contract because of that. Admits he stole the sample and removed sic boi as leverage, Is demanding 3000 pounds and 15% of the new master residually and retroactively since the release. Ren had to pay I believe something stupid like 10k pounds to clear the sample. And now his career changing song has been removed from everywhere. THE PRODUCER IS THE THIEF AND THE LIAR, Yet Kujo about to pocket Rens royalties on the new master for a beat that he admittedly and knowingly stole the music for... Ren loses not only money but I know for a fact that that song means the world to not only him. but thousands of people. Not to begin with the tens of thousands he paid for the music video, to be treated like he didnt have rights to use the music and it looks like he stole it. IDK pretty fucked if you ask me. Kujo Makes a fat bag and isnt responsible for anything in this situation?! Hmmmmmm, seems awefully like Every major label Ive ever dealt with. Its not a Scam..... But its Scandalous as F*ck and a very covert narcistic way of conducting business. And thats just one example. Where is the artists recourse for such incompetency in the industry? Wheres the accountability?

[@prodyeti]

@ripplesakaauditorygenius9682 instead of writing me a 20 page paragraph that'll take me three days to read, maybe just worry about doing your share of clean business and accept the fact that not everybody does the same? You'll save yourself a lot of frustration. I don't make the industry rules. I just take time to read the fine print, like everybody should. If you hate this shit so much then just quit. Move out of the way and let someone hungry take your spot.

[@prodyeti]

@ripplesakaauditorygenius9682 to be fair, morals and laws in this shit aren't the same. And while someone might be able to get away with bad business on the legal side, it catches up to them.

[@defface777]

"Take that Dan" LOL!

[@twochrisbandeira]

Is not a scam is actually helping, like sooo much, you don’t have the ability to make beats, you’re no body yet in this game but you wanna look professional, then lease the beat till you get viral

[@ufomusik2132]

Dj pain the truth when it come to the explanation of things fr

[@Allthatwethink]

If you tell a music supervisor your beats are leased they will pass. There are too many artist out here submitting for sync deals. They are looking for one stop, easy clear artist.

[@DJPain1]

@@Allthatwethink this has happened to you?

[@vito_music]

legend out here always the best content and music 💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@DJPain1]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[@RiskoFunk]

‘preciate the free game always Pain! 🙏🏼

[@playmu5ic]

Thanks for sharing Bruh 👊🏾

[@vandybeats]

I think it boils down artists not being educated on the process. They fear the unknown and think everything is a scam

[@taylorrobbins7184]

SO helpful. Thanks bro

[@DJPain1]

@@taylorrobbins7184 thanks for watching

[@LegacyX1000]

Lordie Lord. What would we do without Dj Pain. For realllll 💀🤣 Thanks for keeping producers like me motivated while being apart of this cesspool in these trenches lmao

[@DJPain1]

@@LegacyX1000 it really is a cesspool

[@mixinginthebox]

Great video TY..

[@DJPain1]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@diamond_rd]

Great video

[@prodJune-yi3ec]

leasing beats is a scam not just for these reasons. I think its unfair but also kinda smart that a prod can charge someone for a beats and then turn around and keep selling the same beat over and over. theres no 1of1 no authenticity just easy money

[@DJPain1]

You can always buy custom beats or work with producers in your area who are in a position to invest all that time into you. Beat leasing doesn't stop you from doing that. So it's not a scam, it's just an arrangement you don't personally like.

[@mr.writealot6035]

Bro you broke the problem down to the simplest terms. Now anybody can do the math. Thanks.

[@DJPain1]

Hopefully it helps

[@fdra1763]

Great explanation about the splits. Thx.

[@Darealkingju]

Thank you 🔥 for letting me know

[@user-ep6md1qn6i]

What insight!!!! 🙏

[@pfxavi]

Those automated contracts on the beat leasing sites are the real scam, I once read one saying the producer has the sole right to copyright the new song made using the beat. So if you're a producer out here leasing beats you probably got a couple songs out here you can just copyright

[@DJPain1]

Proof: ‘I once read.’

[@tracksphantom540]

I want the D.J. Pain Blue print on getting placements and plaques and royalties .🎉❤

[@RightThereDBOY]

STRAIGHT SCAM: I LEASED 50 dollars beats from MULTI PLAYBUM PRODUCERS AND THEY COPYRIGHTED MY SON IMMEDIETLY

[@DJPain1]

@@RightThereDBOY I think this is likely a misunderstanding and you got hit with a ContentID claim which if the producers did it, it’s legal and if another third party did it, it’s illegal. Either way, you can file a dispute as use your lease agreement as proof.

[@AttamanKing]

Another lesson learned, appreciate Pain, cheers from Brasil!!!

[@DJPain1]

🇧🇷 ✌🏼

[@growingoaks]

3:07 exclusive beats are what most big artists do bc they understand the psychology behind it. If I lease a beat, I’m not fucking with exclusives on it. You wanna exclusive, I’m cookin up somethin fresh that you aint heard before. The reason at least Beats aren’t as good is because of the novelty factor but it is still better than ripping beats off KZbin that everyone’s heard a million times lol

[@GHATS]

I try my best to catch your videos when I have a moment to! Your work does not go unnoticed, the quality within the last couple months has gone up tremendously to me, keep it up man! May I ask if you have considered having two channels, one for videos like this and one for your beats? I feel like CTR and Watch time is effected having a mix like this in my opinion. That way the people that only want to watch videos like this don’t have to scroll through your beat videos that they aren’t interested in. Just a suggestion, kinda like how some people have a channel for vlogs, main, shorts and etc. You are one of the main people putting on for producers, and I feel like your channel would grow even more. Nonetheless great work as always pain !

[@DJPain1]

I absolutely messed up my views by splitting my audience. It didn’t used to matter, but when KZbin changed the algorithm maybe 8 years ago, everything went to shet. Thank you for your support 🙏🏽

[@GHATS]

@@DJPain1I feel that. We’re always trying to figure it out. I feel like the producer community is still very new in terms of having faces and personalities and having insight / opinions on certain issues and subjects. Like how many producers that make videos like this have a million subscribers ya know? It’s that fresh, I can maybe think of a handful of channels, that will be the foundation to it such as yourself!! Been watching you for years and been on KZbin as a viewer for producers since 2010ish back when all we had were maschine how to videos and some mpc 2000xl videos 😂 good luck man we rooting for you

[@Mista808]

If I knew leasing beats even existed when I was more dedicated as an artist/songwriter 10-15 years ago I probably would be poppin off right now! Instead, I decided to get into producing myself which took obviously a ton of time away from my actual passion (recording vocals/song writing etc.) It took me *YEARS* to finally get my instrumentals to the point where I felt like they were worthy of actually being released. So instead of releasing half a dozen albums or more in the last decade, I haven't released a single damn album! It's only been the last couple years that my instrumentals are finally at a level that I'd be happy to record/release. I had no idea you could even lease beats for so damn cheap until about a year ago! I only got into producing because I knew I'd never be able to afford to buy beats. Back in the early 2000's producers were selling (or attempting to sell) their beats for 2+ thousand dollars! Aint nobody got time for that! Now I'm here 40 years old and realizing I could release a ridiculously top end album for less than $2000 grand by simply leasing a bunch of beats from people that have dedicated their entire lives to producing beats! DAMN!

[@truthdefinitions]

Thank for the great detail.

[@ELLIOT8209]

South Africa is here. Limpopo Polokwane

[@hitzoneproductions7858]

I would love to collaborate with someone from South Africa

[@damienharrison1]

Hey, I'm also South African. Cape Town :D

[@ELLIOT8209]

​@@hitzoneproductions7858cool. What's your IG?

[@DJPain1]

🇿🇦

[@hitzoneproductions7858]

@@damienharrison1 Are you ready to work with someone from Miami, Florida, United States? Let's fuse two genres together and make something unique/new

[@GrittyGuapo]

Dope vid I always learn something from you

[@DJPain1]

Glad to hear it

[@Mark_Ravem]

What would we do without Dr pain. Always thankful man.

[@DJPain1]

Appreciate you

[@jjsimmons4671]

Producers need to go back to Exclusives only... Scrap all this penny pinchin nonsense.. Look at all the issues it's causing

[@DJPain1]

@@jjsimmons4671 I’m looking at all the issues… so contentID, that’s one. Soulja boy writing a hit song to a leased beat… wait, that’s not a problem. Hmm…

[@JHBeatz1]

@@DJPain1Also , in Jamaica it's not unusual to have multiple songs on one riddim , look up "Dutty money riddim Rvssian". It's been done recently with a big producer.

[@DJPain1]

@@JHBeatz1 bro trust me I’m a huge dancehall fan since supercat, it’s hilarious that Americans are so sheltered

[@YoungBlaze]

"DAMN IT DAN" !

[@DanTheBandMusic]

lol. Sorry!

[@tisbutascratch9374]

YEAH DAN!

[@DJPain1]

Fawhkin daaan

[@DanTheBandMusic]

@@DJPain1I try

[@JETLIFEMUZIK]

Finally after years of me calling this out someone says it

[@DJPain1]

@@JETLIFEMUZIK 😂

[@brandonnhunxho6772]

Even if you dont go viral, if someone makes good plays / placements. Its wise for them to purchase the exclusive.. if the record flops.. you only leased it. If you expect to blow up in one beat .. everything is a scam

[@DJPain1]

@@brandonnhunxho6772 that last line is key

[@flygrind]

New sub dope channel love the content 👌🏿

[@DJPain1]

Appreciate it

[@ripplesakaauditorygenius9682]

Lots of great info... thanks. I have had sync companies or placement companies require you own exclusive rights to submit for syncing. Now I have not dealt with this much. but the couple times I did get placements they required exclusive rights of the underlying and master be held by me. And I have heard this same kind of comment from more than one person that you can't sync leased beats, So I was under the impression that is how it was as well. In fact I have re-recorded music and stopped even considering using 100's of beats I have spent hundteds of dollars for unlimited leases as well, because I would like to pursue syncing on a bigger scale. (I think I even have 5 or 6 of yours Ive purchased laying in a folder. lol) So Any more info on this subject would be amazing. Thanks!!

[@DJPain1]

@@ripplesakaauditorygenius9682 synch companies or pay-to-submit style companies?

[@ripplesakaauditorygenius9682]

​@@DJPain1 I Never paid to submit. Ive heard of Taxi and a couple other sites. But like I said before I'm a Newb when it comes to the sync licensing business altogether. It wasn't something I was even considering yet at that point. I am basically a one man team from start to finish, And live in a town of less than 1k people, and the closest city with any kind of musicians or Music Professionals is a 3 hour drive. And Remotely working without linking with the other collaborators or engineers just isn't the same. So the to-do list is way too long and the work ceiling is way too low as I'm sure you understand completely. So I'm working on opening the first brick and mortar professional recording studio and production company In my area as well So it was completely just by chance that it happened. I was approached by a newer start up ran by just a couple people within the last couple years, because they wanted to use one of my tracks for a commercial. They expressed that they could only use the composition if I had exclusive ownership of the master as well as any underlying works, And Minimum 51% of the Publishing as well. The song happened to be produced from scratch by myself and a fellow Producer because this was right around when the whole Content ID / Splice Gate Scandal Began. So I made sure we played every note and even did the drum loops from scratch just to avoid any copyright claim issues. (And IG still removed said same exclusive song that I speak of because of Content ID, It took months to get them to remove the claim and they did it on my release date so it screwed the release numbers and basically told the algorithm to hide the track I feel too) Anyway, After I finally got everything cleared and people could actually stream it anywhere and not just KZbin or SoundCloud Is when I was asked to use the music, which in the long-run ended up being two fairly amazing sync deals. And It clicked at that point that i was shitting the bed by not sending off for syncs As it appears to be the road to that back end residual bag, with consistency and serious time Investment into submitting the proper music to the proper company.. I'm starting to understand it a little better now And it does not seem to be quick, But as far as I can tell the Key is consistently submitting at very least weekly. And having Good Industry Quality Music of course. But My catalog has been limited Because I had the impression that leased beats would be an issue. And now watching this Ren And Kujo Beats debacle, What if something like that happens with a sync deal with someone major like Netflix or Fox or some major network company? Because I have purchased literally thousands of unlimited leases over the last 20 years of performing and recording. From around 50 Producers from Anno Domini, Wyshmaster, Taylor Made, Ryini, Utility Beats, AnyWayWell, 2Future Anthem, Big Shot Beats, Bubba Got Beats, Cabo Beats, Chillest, Clark Makes Hitz, The Legion, CreateYaLane, Flip Tunes, Leezy The Gifted, King Phillip, Uncle Beat Productions, Luke4Press, Mors, Telling Beatz, Temper, Twanbeatmaker, Blue Flamez Ent., Alrounder, Yourself AND MANY MORE... Most of the listed producers I have minimum 50 to 250 Beats a piece with the exception of you, I only have 5. And I only purchase unlimited licenses with the trackouts always. literally thousands of dollars invested. And I've been through every contract and all of which state it is the artist responsibility to clear samples but the producer will disclose any samples that were used in any beat to the best of there knowledge. But NOT a single contract has any mention of any samples used by ANY of you in the beats I've purchased, and Ive got a folder full of songs that I heard noticeable practically unaltered samples in. The budget for samples right now is literally 0 so I just put them in a folder. But I know for sure that I dont know or recognize all underlying samples that have been used. Just the obvious ones. And then There is an even bigger folder of beats that, being stupid in the beginning on my part and not realizing that the majority of you guys want 50% of the writing credit and 50% of the publishing on the new master recording. for a beat you have leased to hundreds or thousands of other artist?!. Umm, I am sorry But I already paid for your work by purchasing the lease. And how is it justifiably royalty free at all if you require half of the ownership to my master.? ownership to half of my income, residually on each track? On A song I wrote 100% of, Recorded The vocals and any other instrumentation I want added in my studio, Pay for any features wanted, Then have to typically completely recompose the beat, just to Properly Edit and Mix the entire song from the trackouts (Properly Unmasking and automating and what not) And then actually master the final new mix and not send it through some free Master program that just doesn't quite cut the cheese and sounds squashed and Distorted in my ears for the most part.. And thats not even touching investment in any music video, Content made and posted consistantly and Money invested in promotion. Which I hate to hate, And I haven't worked with your beats or yourself personally enough to know your contract requirements. So not necessarily you, maybe, I'm not sure.... But none of these other guys EVER do the extra promotions or posts they offer or even help promote the music you made with their beats AT ALL, EVER. Ill send it personally when finished and I might get awesome track or sounds awesome as a response. But they don't even repost or share the track you made or ever mention any thing about work being released by any artists using the beats unless we pay or win some contest. I doubt they even listen most of the time honestly unless you go viral. But y'all want half the money made from my work and every other artist that leased that beat and make any kind of income? That sounds like our tax system, And It may not be a scam, But it is just as scandalous as labels holding masters, Because they all advertise that they are royalty free beats that we can monetize and keep all of the royalties we make. But they leave out the fact that they want a 50\50 split on the new sound recording master, as well as retain ownership to the underlying samples and master. And to top it off if we do want a sync license, most of them charge you for that now... I mean most of y'all even upcharge to make the trackoust WAV files instead of mp3s. now so for unlimited rights with tracked out WAV files it ends up costing almost 10x what a basic lease would cost. And the trackouts are a must for mixing because most of the beat mixes are lazy garbage in my opinion. Most of the time the producer comments on how amazing the beat sounds when Im done. And I just wonder why they dont send out better quality? But I guess when hundreds, or even thousands of people lease the same beats, Then I guess why would they care if it doesn't matter? They get their money regardless. Not to rant a book or anything... But Leasing could be an amazing opportunity for all parties involved, Easily. But right now, There is no accountability for producers that sell illegally used samples that they dont disclose that they used in their beats or in the extreme case like with D. Lynch selling other peoples beats as your own. or non transferable licensed features. Or offering fake deals with Twista and sony music. And that idiot still scamming people, nothing ever even happened to this guy. I still get emails trying to sell me Nipsey features and shit. Their needs to be some sort of regulation on the beatmakers productions to make sure that things like samples and copyrights are cleared. IDK... Whats your thoughts? (irritation but no hate inteded) And I know i was a bit all over the place but I honestly would love to hear your perspective as a producer that leases beats and has used samples as well. Thanks!!!

[@RhythmDwella]

you always break things down ,thats why i share you stuff

[@DJPain1]

I really appreciate that

[@DeeSamplingAgain]

Wow! Didn't know about producers not getting credit for sync deals or even telling them they got one smh

[@DJPain1]

Pardon?

[@1bornbishop]

💯

[@cousinkyle3153]

Shoutout to Fantom! One of the dopest producers out there!!

[@mutmasterj]

The scams are leases that want splits. Just stick to royalty free. Dudes want to get paid twice. Also go unlimited streams.

[@EruVasquez]

Thanks for existing DJPain

[@DJPain1]

@@EruVasquez 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@DJHubcap]

That Dan segment was hilarious! 😅😅

[@DJPain1]

Poor Dan, he didn't deserve the obscure lorneography jokes, hope he knows I'm just trying to be funny

[@gehadbarghouthi2561]

Thank you for the knowledge

[@DJPain1]

My pleasure

[@derekmusic5753]

Wow this was a great listen 📡📡👊🏿

[@DJPain1]

@@derekmusic5753 thank you

[@jayrobb4632]

What about the 10 year term on 99% of these (beatstars)licenses? This is the main reason I have recently been staying away from leases.

[@DJPain1]

You really think we’re monitoring your usage of these beats? I can’t remember something 10 days later let alone 10 years 😂

[@jayrobb4632]

@@DJPain1 So leave a takedown up to risk? We can say this or that, but the only thing that will hold up in a court of law is the license/agreement. The future use and monetization of the beat would be considered an infringement. Bad advice here.

[@DJPain1]

@@jayrobb4632 Then just renew the license, that's the obvious answer. I don't know why you're mad at me for this lol

[@SylvanWilliams]

With the Soulja boy example, would the Fantom get any additional pay royalties once the track blew?

[@DJPain1]

I don’t know what his contract states but by default, yes he gets royalties as the owner of the beat

[@SylvanWilliams]

@@DJPain1 Jake Angle mentioned in a recent video with Cyfal that he includes a 3% royalty on anything that hits certain thresholds of traction. He also mentioned that it is not common practice on beatstars and isn’t included in the standard beatstars contact. I for one will be looking to add this to my unlimited beat leases moving forward.

[@ernmoneywrightdjrubbacity1723]

Dope

[@urbangearman]

I hate leasing beats because when i shoot a music video and put it on youtube and use content id. the producer gets paid for something im paying money to promote and market. Also i ran into problems when trying to get music videos on tv.

[@DJPain1]

@@urbangearman it’s probably not even the producer doing the contentID

[@noahthew1912]

Thanks

[@donniedollarz4537]

I remember cracking fl and using them Dj pain 1 free sample kits when I first started . Subbed bro you do beat making tutorials ?

[@donniedollarz4537]

lol I brought fl studio btw ya 😂 before I get smoked

[@MOEReese]

💎💎💎💎

[@mariogooch9634]

I am old, this all feels so mechanical and assembly line made, so unorganic. ( i know it's not a word, u get the point) the industry has ruined free flowing creativity with a bunch of legal bowling bumpers and training wheels on a freebird Harley Davidson.

[@DJPain1]

@@mariogooch9634 ok?

[@dravxn999]

i agree i wish we could successfully make music by just making music lol

[@peironej]

no matter what yt says, we are here

[@DJPain1]

Thank you

[@hoopscentral1828]

I heard this from alot of artist too! I mix and master and actually record a artist at my home that’s produced by the same producer from snow the product. But i hear all the time that the beat makers will sell you leases and in those leases it says they get a percentage of the royalties, usually 50%. N artist always tells me they try to contact them to purchase exclusives and they’re always ghosted.

[@DJPain1]

Royalty splits are pretty standard. Again, there are two copyrights so that’s two different pies to divide.

[@LawderOfficial]

Bless you! :)

[@BeautifulHavocbypj808]

Great vid!

[@DJPain1]

Thank you