Beautiful Diversity - Tengu Plant Format ∣ Introduction to September 2011 Yu-Gi-Oh

[@duba9018]

This man is the summoning salt of the yugioh community.

[@jirehjirehjirehjireh]

Yeeeees

[@guaritalksaboutcards]

i see a lot of supporting comments to be honest

[@rocktagon]

Thanks for making this, the community needs way more 2011 content

[@sleepyygo]

Thanks for the help 😘

[@ChadKing69]

They should have called it the Vaporwave format

[@guaritalksaboutcards]

@@ChadKing69 why lol?

[@derrosenkavalier8890]

PHSW is to Tengu Plant format as CRV is to Goat and TSHD to Edison. So glad to see this format getting more love as Edison has exploded in popularity and Goat continues to receive new players from modern YGO, but both lack a certain *something* after a while. Tengu Plant is the only one of the 3 where I can play Mystic Piper-centric decks, one of my absolute favorite cards.

[@sleepyygo]

piper is the best reason to play this formatt

[@Renigade68]

Amen, this is probably my favourite format in Yugioh, when I first heard about Goat Format and how it'd been gaining a following I tried looking for videos on some Synchro/early Xyz stuff as I remembered that being when the game was the most fun for me personally, at the time I was sad that I really wasn't finding much on the subject, so it's nice to see it get some recognition :p

[@sleepyygo]

Yeah for sure, after playing it for a bit I looked into it and found pretty much no content geared toward it and figured I might as well put something out there even though I’m not the most qualified, hopefully more people do the same!

[@midshipman8654]

what about Edison format? isnt that like mid synchro?

[@Renigade68]

@@midshipman8654 Edison is good too, but a lot of my favourite 5D's stuff comes from the later half of that era, stuff like Trishula, Shooting Star and Quasar, Adoration and Trinity, a lot of the plant support, and I could keep going, but that's why I'm personally more partial to a format a bit later in the timeline like this one.

[@Coolcone101]

BROOO I've been tryna find a video like this for weeks hahaha. This is such a good intro to some of the decks of the format and I had no idea :). I hope the trend of more people picking this up continues and maybe we can get it closer to GOAT Format in terms of popularity!

[@sleepyygo]

Hell yeah! ❤️

[@mitchellnouse6911]

The formats that I enjoyed the most over my years of playing have been 2011 sept, 2012 shock lock, and all of 2014. Nationals for 2014 could definitely be put in the same tier as 2011 for being a format with great diversity. I personally really enjoyed 2012 windup shock lock format though because i played dark world and the windup matchup was so easy for me. Early 2014 was a really cool format too because it was really diverse as well. A regional I topped had bujinn, first fist, mermail, infernity, glad beast, and dragon ruler all top. The second half of 2014 was very iconic with the release of ba, sknights, and shaddolls. I suggest checking out all of these formats. Great times in yugioh!

[@sleepyygo]

Absolutley I will! Late 2014 is super nostalgic for me tbh, that’s when I first started trying to play locals and the diversity in that format was sick, will for sure look into them! ❤️

[@milesgreenwood5036]

2012 REDU format is so underrated, there were so many playable decka

[@aliceinwonder8978]

I also have a lot of nostalgia for 2014. I remember my roommate and I grinded out games all the time. He was experimenting with dragon ruler builds and I was playing zombies. With malicious at 3, mezuki at 3, and plaguespreader at 2, it was a good time. I used to open up with pyramid turtle into Endless Decay which, if they crashed on turn 1, meant he had 4000 attack. And then trap stun into zombie master, lavalchain, dump malicious, and once I got a plague I pump out two level 8 synchros. and if I got real lucky I drew return from the different dimension which was back at 1 lol. Ahhh, good times. I don't even know what the best deck was, there were a number of dragon builds, mermails, I played against madolches, bujins. Also soul charge came out which entirely changed the format (and helped me a lot). I think I quit shortly after, though, so I don't remember if I liked late 2014 since I felt it was powercreeping too much and my zombie deck would be worthless =/ so I sold it. but it was fun times. i liked that back and forth yugioh. Back then it usually took me a few turns to set up - get a zombie in grave, draw plague or malicious, either draw trap stun or bait out their traps, and once I was all prepped then I'd combo out a board and either win in the next couple turns or lose. I guess I am that old crusty bitch who dislikes current yugioh, but nowadays people shit out a board in 1 turn, despite hand traps, and then stop you from even playing. Like, I used to think rescue rabbit into laggia was oppressive, but jesus

[@esphir5471]

Love to see how you're with every video that you upload, a bit more confident. Really enjoyed your video, (like usual lol). Amazing job dude!

[@sleepyygo]

The continued support actually means so much! Gonna try my best to keep getting better

[@ButterclawEnthusiast]

For chaos strategies, there's also twilight and chaos plants. As for other, lesser known decks this format with varying viability are flamvellsworn, worms, morphtronics (lol) zombie plant, and even pure scrap.

[@sleepyygo]

Yeah theres def alot of rogue I chose not to cover, the format is so fucking diverse its great

[@bakaguya1383]

the format i started with and will always be good

[@strawberrow198]

This video is awesome man! Something about this format that makes me wanna go back to it every time, whether I'm playing current or some other old format. To me, this was the best format in the whole game and I hope to see it continue to grow!

[@sleepyygo]

Lmaoooo naturia best deck babyyy

[@simosgaming]

Man, this format seems so fun to play! Idk what deck to play though. Probably some Chaos Variant, as Chaos is one of my all time favorite "archetypes". Great video man! Keep up the great work!

[@sleepyygo]

Chaos decks are some of my faves too ❤️

[@Brawler_1337]

Piper Chaos is hella fun, and you have access to Meklord Emperor Wisel in this format, which can be devastating when dropped at the right time. I recommend checking out the Decade of Duels Discord, which is largely dedicated to this format. I also recommend subscribing to Who Needs Meta because they play this format a lot.

[@guaritalksaboutcards]

i suggest playing chaos agents,chaos control,junkdoppel,chaos piper or chaos machina

[@dlhf728]

You just reminded my that SEP 2011 is actually one of my favourite Legacy Format alongside Pre-DUEA :) Although I only played Dragunity during the former time due to Yugioh being too expensive for an ordinary kid like me back then

[@sleepyygo]

September 2011 is great for sure 🥰, i honestly need to check out more pre-DUEA, that was before my time and havent invested much time into learning about it but ive heard good things

[@sephikong8323]

I recall playing it at the time and managing to put together a somewhat decent Infernity deck. It was pretty awesome when I didn't brick As for Infernity, can Archfiend come back at 2 ? It's been 10 years you know, even with Sage coming out I don't think it's really gonna break the metagame apart

[@sleepyygo]

@@sephikong8323 I think realistically three archfiend would probably be okay, but konami is scared to bring back draco face off so who knows 🤧

[@dudesk099]

Worth noting that agents had MANY variations in this format in the main deck. Some opted to run more traps, some were chaos oriented like the list you posted, some went with Herald of Orange Lights over Veilers, etc. Even looking at the Top 32 of Toronto you can see how much people were customizing the deck to how they thought it should best be run. I really appreciate this content, Edison has finally started to get some consistent content but Tengu Plants format was largely left alone besides the Plant deck everyone has known about for many years.

[@sleepyygo]

Yeah Its really unfortunate how much more content edison has rn compared to our format. Hopefully we can get more soon, my pleasure to add to it ^_^

[@shadowdraqon2479]

Theres also herald agents and gallis agent FTK

[@Sleepy0173]

For years I've said this is my favorite format of all time. More than Goats, Reaper, Edison, Shaddoll/Qli, or anything else. Only I never had bumped into anybody else that thought the same but I'm glad I'm not alone. To me during this format they fixed about all the glaring problems of the Synchro era like Trishula, Mass Driver, Fishborg, etc, without pushing their respective decks out of viability. Even the newly introduced T.G. and recently hit Plants felt evened out. I could play anything from Ojamas to Flamvells or even frigging Crystal Beasts or Assault Modes and give a fight and feel like I had a fun time. The Xyz mechanic was introduced with good cards that didn't yet break them up (Utopia, Gachi, N 17, Leviair were all awesome). I don't think early Xyz spam like the Wind Up loop was a thing yet. To me soon after, the Xyz era was about to make a powercreep jump bigger than anything the game had seen prior to that point in history, and so this format was the last time I felt like I could make anything Legacy work out and experiment without too much OTK. I'm very happy to have stumbled upon this video.

[@ilexanders1384]

For the Dark world list, trance archfiend is not legal in the september 2011 tengu plant format, it was released in ORCS.

[@snicklas8620]

I really love this Format, it´s my by far favorite. ^^ I loved to play T.G. Stun and Agents back in the days, but I also played Dark World and Six Sam during that time. All of of the decks and strategies you´ve shown are really nostalgic to me. Great Video, it felt like a step into a time machine xD I recognized that there is a Trance Archfiend in the Dark World deck, which you can´t play in that Format since it´s from Order of Chaos xD

[@sleepyygo]

Oh my god i hadnt realized about trance archfiend thanks for letting me know

[@awesomesauce-h1x]

great video sleepy i really enjoyed normal summoning diva and summoning infantry and using skill-oh this is TCG

[@sleepyygo]

🥰

[@awesomesauce-h1x]

Jokes aside this was a great video and if I wasn't a yugizoomer who was stuck in the absolutely flawless gouki handloop formats i'd be convinced to play old formats from this

[@sleepyygo]

@@awesomesauce-h1x thank you ❤️ means alot

[@andresgenshinclips4229]

Finally someone said it. And so well. Great work

[@vongolajames]

Love the videos! Really looking forward to checking out more of the channel 😊

[@aliceinwonder8978]

I don't remember if the cards were out yet or not but... I really liked playing Fabled cards during the synchro era even though they were kinda bad/rogue even, but they were fun :)

[@Brawler_1337]

Just as a testament to how cool this format is: Tengumania 2 (which happened this weekend) was won by a Mist Valley Falcon beatdown stun brew. It’s a sweet list, and it shows how this format has so much room for creativity.

[@guaritalksaboutcards]

yeah i agree,there are a lot of hidden gems still.

[@sleepyygo]

discord.gg/t5xBWjU for anyone interested in joining a community who plays this format and are alot better than me ❤️

[@diamonddudeygo]

Could you post another link? it says it's invalid.

[@sleepyygo]

@@diamonddudeygo discord.gg/W4waUYEP ❤️

[@scythermantis]

@@sleepyygo Invite invalid :_(

[@sleepyygo]

@@scythermantis discord.gg/CKTJ3qNT discord invites really like to expire

[@scythermantis]

@@sleepyygo oh thx

[@Brawler_1337]

Just a heads-up: That Dark World deck is illegal in this format. Trance Archfiend was released in Order of Chaos, which followed Photon Shockwave. It’s a relatively easy fix, though, since you can replace it one-for-one with Fabled Raven.

[@guaritalksaboutcards]

i think dark world should be illegal. the best version of the format is toronto,i don't why so many are palying by columbus

[@adamhamre2045]

Flamvell and Destiny Diva are some of my favorite decks in the format not mentioned here! Take some time to check them out if you haven't already :)

[@sleepyygo]

Didn’t mention them for sake of time tbh, destiny diva one of the coolest decks period tho 100%

[@guaritalksaboutcards]

do you have a decklist for destiny diva?

[@jimthekidd]

This till mid 2012 the most diverse & creative formats

[@virgiltank3640]

Didn't the march 2012 list kill everything ?

[@jimthekidd]

@@virgiltank3640 negatory there were still plenty of decks I played gravekeepers through most of those formats. Faced a little of everything online and in tournaments.

[@KiryuRyo]

I started playing this format recently so this video really helped me, thanks!

[@sleepyygo]

My pleasure! Hope you keep playing its such a fun format!

[@WhoNeedsMeta]

One thing I do want to point out on this is how important Maxx C is to the format. Your deck has to have a viable stopping point if hit with Maxx C. There's a big reason decks that want to push through it side Debunk. Also turn player priority really hurts the viability of Veiler.

[@sleepyygo]

Maxx C absolutely a pivotal thing to consider when deck building.

[@sleepyygo]

However, in terms of turn player prio and veiler, besides applications with lonefire blossom, i dont really see it as an issue in my opinion

[@nbassasin8092]

Even though it is called Tengu plant, I heard that the best deck is actually dark world one. But people figured this out years later it was not realised at te time

[@virgiltank3640]

Is junk doppel bad ? I ve always heard about the deck (it was famous) but its not on your list . Also is pure agents superior to t.g. the variant ? Finally , why not rescue rabbit present in glad ?it helps with swarming esp for herk

[@sleepyygo]

Rescue rabbit is PHSW which isn’t a legal set in this format. Junk Doppel I really like but didn’t include just for time’s sake and bc of how similar it is to Tengu Plant. Pure Agent, Chaos Agent and TG Agent all have their advantages and honestly I think it’s mostly player pref

[@virgiltank3640]

@@sleepyygo Thnx

[@virgiltank3640]

@@sleepyygo is there a way to know more about the format , Edison have a website

[@sleepyygo]

@@virgiltank3640 the format library discord and decades of duels discord are both communities that can help you out, unfortunately I dont believe theres a website at this time

[@spectre9065]

Agents should be playing Herald of Orange Light.

[@calebrowe8572]

Really happy to see another vid keep up the great work. When's the dogmatika lore video 😉

[@sleepyygo]

👀 😉

[@jiara5219]

Pot of Avarice went to 1 from 3,it wasn't banned

[@keshersygo]

avarice was actually unlimited on the previous list!

[@sleepyygo]

Oh shit I didn’t even realize, that actually makes alot of sense, apologies for that

[@orchidquack]

Another great video, really inspirational!

[@sleepyygo]

Tysm for the support!

[@midshipman8654]

so, what would you say are the pros and cons comparing this to edison? I remember really liking playing the (sometimes bricky) agents. I remember everyone having to play tengu due to how incomparable its card advantage was.

[@sleepyygo]

I think that when you want to play a mirror then Tengu Plant is far better than any of the Edison mirror matches, and I think there are a number of cool rogue options like Scrap, Piper, TG, etc. that don’t exist in Edison. But all in all I think it’s personal pref, the existence of hand traps in the format is 2011s greatest weakness in comparison to Edison.

[@midshipman8654]

@@sleepyygo yah, i can get that. its just that to me, it seemes kinda close to an established format for a kind of "diminishing returns" kinda effect. I mean, between goat and edison is like 5 years, so the feel is pretty distinct. though I guess its comparable to reaper format in that sort of way.

[@YGO_Renaissance]

@@sleepyygoHow are handtraps a weakness when they are literally healthy counterplay. Veiler and Maxx C are very good designs in the context of 2011.

[@sleepyygo]

@@YGO_Renaissance this is an incredibly subjective take. the unknown variables that hand traps create is a different game in terms of reads/counterplay in comparison to a trap centric game. hand traps is a big part of the reason people prefer edison, having to play into concealed interruption at a wide scale, especially cards as swingy as maxx c can be a con for some.

[@YGO_Renaissance]

The golden age of Yu-Gi-Oh!

[@theswampexpert7679]

That would be goat and duelist alliance.

[@hilal8461]

@@theswampexpert7679 goat is trash compared to edison format-pre dino rabbit

[@ruki25]

What are you even talking about? Not the golden age? This was my golden age. I need this format yesterday

[@sleepyygo]

I mean I do quite love the format, but nothing is objective here

[@ruki25]

@@sleepyygo oh I do believe my statement is an entirely subjective one. I know a lot of people can and will agree or disagree. This was just personally when I had left YGO as a game. I'm back into it, but I'm left really confused most times as to how the new stuff and archetypes work. Luckily Goat is a fairly popular format, but I kind of miss synchro spam.

[@GodKiller97]

I’m surprised Scraps weren’t on the list of competitive rogue decks. Evan Vargas really stomped a lot of decks with Scraps with his losses admitting to misplays as opposed to the deck itself. Made excellent use of Fiendish Chain, CotH, and Dark Coffin

[@guaritalksaboutcards]

yeah scraps are competitive if built good

[@Arturomiguel-kd5bu]

I have a question: i have to use the original version of a card? Can I play with new versions?

[@sleepyygo]

Generally people play with the pre errata versions of cards, but you can use newer copies ofc, just try and remember the older text to keep it accurate!

[@Arturomiguel-kd5bu]

@@sleepyygo thanks, time to build Hero!

[@sleepyygo]

@@Arturomiguel-kd5bu hell yeah

[@Brawler_1337]

@@Arturomiguel-kd5bu HEROes weren’t as popular until Order of Chaos. Blade Armor Ninja single-handedly made Bubble Beat an amazing deck. But they definitely existed before then. Super Poly is great at disrupting a lot of decks, Gemini Spark and Hero Blast are strong with Neos Alius, and Abs Zero and The Shining are powerhouses. Plus, you still have access to Future Fusion and Vision HEROes Adoration and Trinity.

[@CallMeNevermore]

What do you think about the July 2015 format, post Djinn and Lavalval Chain ban?

[@sleepyygo]

Was one of the first times I went to locals, very nostalgic, love the format, ba my fave deck of all time 💕

[@CallMeNevermore]

@@sleepyygo That's what's up 👍

[@xxGamerToadxx]

Do you have the lists from that luxary event? Currently making decks for this format irl and need more decks to make.

[@sleepyygo]

Unfortunatley I’ve been unable to locate them, will lyk if i can find them tho

[@xxGamerToadxx]

@@sleepyygo appreciate it!

[@guaritalksaboutcards]

@@sleepyygo did you find them?

[@jvizzle87]

Is there a discord or something where I can find players to play with in this format?

[@sleepyygo]

discord.gg/t5xBWjU ❤️

[@ChadKing69]

Tengu Plant is Goat's successor

[@guaritalksaboutcards]

yeah i think that too,also because lots of decks are chaos based like in Goat and there are many goodcards.decks

[@spotsthecat7913]

Is PHSW included in this set? I mean, that set really affects the deckbuilding of this in general

[@sleepyygo]

PHSW is not included, zenmains and rabbit would greatly warp the format away from tengu plant

[@spotsthecat7913]

@@sleepyygo that's great to hear, Rabbit and Zenmaines is exactly what i deemed as "problematic cards" from PHSW, thanks for responding

[@calebrowe8572]

Just curious, the way you refered to the modern format as standard and old formats as legacy, do you play magic, that's pretty common terminology for their formats

[@sleepyygo]

I’m a really big fan of rhystic studies and I play a fair amount of commander casually so ive def picked up some of the terminology haha

[@calebrowe8572]

Yeah, I heard it in the video. Just recently I've been watching a lot of Commander and just magic in general, rhystic studies is by far my favorite magic youtuber I've seen, the command zone is pretty good too.

[@ButterclawEnthusiast]

People attempted to play fish after fishborg blaster's ban?

[@sleepyygo]

They did. They should not have.

[@ButterclawEnthusiast]

@@sleepyygo I saw this deck topped an event a year after this format, but that build was entirely xyz focused, using cards like gachi and giga brilliant to otk

[@ThatReviewerGamer]

It was around this time that I lost interest ik yugioh, a bit later maybe. But here was when i was having the most fun with yugioh, it's a sad thing that xyz never actually flowed with sinchro summoning, they were just better.

[@snazzygagagigo524]

Is duel terminal 5A and 5B allowed in this format?

[@sleepyygo]

5a and 5b are legal if youre playing with the dark world structure which some people dont play with, in which case 5a would be allowed but 5b wouldnt I believe.

[@snazzygagagigo524]

@@sleepyygo thanks! I always loved the hidden arsenal archetypes. I was thinking about building a 2011 gusto deck. Probably the deck i am most excited about in 2011 is frog monarchs. It was one of my favourite decks of all time.

[@sleepyygo]

@@snazzygagagigo524 frog monarch is sick, I hope you have as much fun playing the format as I’ve been having!

[@Brawler_1337]

@@snazzygagagigo524 It’s worth noting that Frognarchs also had access to Sea Lancer at this time, so you can build with more Ronintoadins and Gachi Gachis and abuse Poison Draw Frog.

[@BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA]

Where the TCG rewind Credit?

[@sleepyygo]

Realized that I took a lot of the lists from there, there were hella sources for this vid so I kinda overlooked the crediting of some of the lists totally my b, updated the description!

[@ButterclawEnthusiast]

10/10 way better than goat format

[@sleepyygo]

Best format of all time ❤️

[@ButterclawEnthusiast]

@@sleepyygo I think you still have me added on discord, hit me up anytime if you wanna play

[@sleepyygo]

@@ButterclawEnthusiast will do 🥰

[@EizaYgo]

Im subscribing Great vídeo!!💕

[@sleepyygo]

Tysm ❤️

[@matticus_p626]

"September 2011 was a fantastic YEAR for yugioh" :think:

[@sleepyygo]

🧠

[@guaritalksaboutcards]

its true btw

[@hilal8461]

i played the best deck this format. Morphtronics :)

[@sleepyygo]

High roller

[@thekittenfreakify]

Disaster dragons were still a thing.

[@logasoba]

naturia in this format is actually cracked

[@sleepyygo]

I agree

[@eltiovalew6534]

"With MuhChina!"

[@Chasecon]

👍🏼

[@Anonymous8547]

March 2011 pre-XYZ is a better format so every deck doesn't splash Tour Guide in it.

[@sleepyygo]

I honestly think the TGU Sangan package is really fucking cool and makes alot of rogue way more viable

[@Anonymous8547]

@@sleepyygo Viable decks in March 2011: Tengu Plant Chaos/Stun Scraps Gladiator Beasts Lightsworn Gravekeepers Blackwings Machina Gadgets Karakuri Agents X-Sabers Six-Samurai Fish Infernity Monarch Fabled Herald T.G. Hero Beatdown Nordics Malefics Worms Every single one of these decks except Lightsworn made top 32 at a YCS at least once. There is no question March 2011 had more deck diversity because TGU was not playable. Edit: I'm not saying Sept 2011 is a bad format, but it doesn't have as much diversity. Sept 2011 is probably a better format if you are one of the players who prefers Heavy Storm to be legal.

[@sleepyygo]

@@Anonymous8547 all of these decks were still viable in Sept 2011, all of them. With the addition of Piper and a number of other decks carried by TGU.

[@Anonymous8547]

@Sleepy YGO I haven't looked at YCS results as deeply from Sept 2011 but I would expect fewer unique tops because of a faster format where Heavy Storm is Legal and Royal Oppression is banned. TGU makes deck diversity and tech cards basically fall off a cliff because every deck is going to want to splash 3TGU + Sangan instead of something more creative. I think BLS is too strong of a card and prefer just having 3 Chaos Sorcs being legal. I also prefer heavy-less formats because with Heavy being legal Starlight road becomes a sacky card and slower formats in general are more interactive and thus, skill-based. March 2011 Pre-XYZ should become the Standard Plant Synchro format imo and is the the retro format I play along with goats. However, to each their own.

[@sleepyygo]

@@Anonymous8547 there were a ton of unique tops! Maybe not quite as many as the prior format but all those decks were very playable and stuff like LS, Chaos Variants, Karakuri, Monarch, X saber all still def had rep! But of course to each their own, I certainly understand the argument against TGU however, your points are perfectly valid, to each their own indeed

[@virgiltank3640]

Sorry I am new

[@sleepyygo]

No worries, happy to help!

[@vincentjouett5075]

I didn’t have tour guides and played bw and I assure u that deck was unplayable.

[@sleepyygo]

Been testing a lot of bw recently and seeing fair amounts of success in testing, certainly wouldnt call it unplayable, but not tier 1 or 2