Beedrill vs Butterfree - The Gen 1 Buggy Bash - Solo Playthrough Versus - Pokemon Yellow

Today Beedrill and Butterfree are going to try to out perform each other in generation 1. These two were some of my earliest challenges on my channel and I think they deserve another shot at the game. I've learned a lot since then. I know that Beedrill learns Swords Dance now. So let's find out which of these two early game bugs will utilize the geneartion 1 bugs the best and achieve victory.
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[@jwatercrane]

"Unfortunately in generation 1 focus energy is bugged" i see what you did there. Smooth.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

;)

[@qorv4973]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon 2 times. Everyone in the poke community knows how iconic the word unfortunately means

[@tiemen9095]

The bug is actually that it makes it impossible to land a critical hit, rather than decreasing the chance. This is a ctually useful in combination with setup moves, as it prevents critical hits from negating your setup :p.

[@mickkelley3776]

Technically if you use setup moves using Focus Energy would be helpful, since crits also ignore attack buffs and defense debuffs. This means a crit can technically do less than a normal hit, so if you're aiming to sweep Focus Energy can be beneficial.

[@Obironnkenobi]

Out of all his skills he's developed, his pun game is probably the most improved.

[@ancientangyl]

I’d love to see Hitmonchan vs Hitmonlee in yellow. Or Hitmochan vs Hitmonlee vs Hitmontop in Gen 2. Edit: Actually this versus could only be done in gen 2. As Hitmonlee cannot learn any move in gen 1 that would damage ghost types. Which, due to Agatha's existence, means Hitmonlee can't beat gen 1 at all.

[@youtuber-rh1eg]

Oh yes I would definitely want to see that too

[@wadephipps5239]

I second this... I need the gen 2 head-to-head-to-head

[@happiestaku6646]

Only if they are named Jackie and Bruce.

[@danphantom2583]

Yes! All three of them against each other in gen 2 would be interesting

[@et34t34fdf]

A fun run i suppose, but let me tell you right now, Hitmonlee will win both generations, Hitmonchan is...well, quite shit. You see all those fancy punch moves it can learn? Well, those runs of its awful special attack stat(or special stat, as it were) in the first 3 generations. In addition, hitmonlee is faster and stronger(with better fighting STAB), so its an easy prediction.

[@TheMoogleKing93]

2 things you didn't try for Butterfree ; Mimic and Substitute. Mimic for Lance to copy Ice Beam and 1HKO everything on his team. Substitute whilst asleep and you can safely sweep and just set Sleep Powder up without taking damage. Also blocks status moves.

[@Canvas-nb]

Actually, substitute doesn't block status in gen 1, its why only rhydon uses it in comp sometimes cause its immune to thunder wave ^^

[@skeetermania3202]

@@Canvas-nb Stadium has Substitute working properly, though. It’s a staple move there.

[@Canvas-nb]

@@skeetermania3202 red/blue doesn't have it working properly, I've heard there are a ton of difference between it and stadium

[@kaimobley5324]

Like what us all trainer's say, if it's not 100% accuracy it's 50%

[@TracinyaLachance]

Beedrill will always hold a special place in my heart. My first ever attempt at a Pokémon Nuzlocke in FireRed, I happened upon a jolly-natured Weedle in Viridian Forest. She got me past Brock, annihilated Sabrina... and died to a random exploding Geodude on One Island. RIP.

[@iantaakalla8180]

It’s nice to see Beedrill win. For all its flaws in later generation, it has just good enough moves to sweep everything in this generation.

[@happiestaku6646]

Seeing Butterfree fans shout they are going to win while us Beedrill fans are quietly confident...and our confidence is well placed.

[@got2strpk]

Honestly I'm not a fan of either but looking at both and considering it's gen 1 I definitely expected butterfree to dominate. Their movesets alone suggest it.

[@Teehousegaming]

Thumbs up to all those who are calling it for beedrill to win edit: I've edited it because people thought i was spoiling the run. i posted that comment before the run was even out. no spoilers were given as no one knows who won, were just predicting beedrill to be the winner

[@kabalofthebloodyspoon]

right yo pvp meta is too different a lot

[@fadeleaf845]

Physical attackers are actually strongly favored in Gen 1 because there's only a handful of resists against Normal spam that is easy to tech against (Mega Drain and Surf are learned by quite a lot of Pokémon and they can punch through the Rock/Ground types even on bad Special stats) and a lot of non-normal physical moves can deal with the handful of Ghosts (a lot of physical attackers can learn Earthquake). Special attackers often lack the attack stat to properly hit through specially bulky mons they can't hit super-effectively and/or resist their STAB moves. Even Psychic Types can get slowed down quite a bit by opposing Psychic types.

[@lashrooma5246]

Nice Way to spoil it mate.

[@lashrooma5246]

But eh oh well

[@MrChip06]

NOOOOO SPOILERS

[@DonYagamoth]

I appreciate the extra effort you went through to make Venomoth show up as Psychic/Flying in the Hall of Fame ^^

[@sageoverheaven]

What extra effort? It's on Sabrina's team it's so obviously Dark/Steel type.

[@hekonaleeinos5510]

0:42 Love how you get venomoth typing right every single time these days ; now, this is character development.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I've put my time in ;)

[@adamhand77]

Watching this after watching Euro 2020. What about a bug competition, single elimination style to find the best bug

[@isaacallen563]

A whole bracket dedicated to the most underrated typing in Pokémon? Why that sounds delightful

[@adamhand77]

@@isaacallen563 we could all fill in our own brackets like March madness

[@ChrisZi.]

The two biggest Gen 1 urban legends: 1) Mew is under that truck. 2) You can choose the dome fossil

[@et34t34fdf]

Its funny how "Mew under that truck" actually became a thing, considering you can actually find it in cerulean city, doing a bit of glitching.

[@davidkiller61]

"Pick the dome fossil" ... You know the rules and so do I, * click * say *goodbye*

[@Zorgdub]

Scott: "I do the Rocket Hideout for two reasons." Me: "Money and power?" Scott: "Money and Swords Dance." Me: "Close enough."

[@burlapsack7741]

"I even know venomoths typing now": absolute gold

[@joeledren]

Believe it or not, I knew Venomoth's typing before I started watching your videos and I'm all confused now xD great videos mate, really entertaining! I know you took inspiration from Jrose but I actually enjoy your videos even more, so good job! :)

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Venomoth's typing slowly becomes a fluid and ever changing thing as you watch these videos....

[@sceptilethehedgehog5862]

Beedrill Just Drilled It's Way Through The Elite 4

[@yesec9]

"Has a Grass-Flying Ace". Despite Psychic being super-effective. Man is dedicated to this running joke till the bitter end. Hahaha

[@saberbeast1]

Yes I knew my boy would win Beedrill is up there with scyther and pinsir And i feel like twineedle is very underrated move that people don't think is actually good

[@Viremind]

Very nice, I was rooting for Beedrill the entire run, seeing that it was behind in time. Felt like a real underdog story =) Btw. Have you ever heard of the theory that the Butterfree and Venomoth sprites got mixed up (as indicated by Butterfrees colorscheme and eyes)? What are your thoughts on that?

[@germmanator]

The same idea between Marsh badge and Soul badge and how they got mixed up.

[@NonexistentIntellect]

I'm proud that you know that focus energy is bugged but sad that you didn't know Venomoth is psychic/flying

[@three-b4212]

Great stuff! I absolutely LOVE bug types and as a kid, Beedrill was one of my favourite Pokémon... And then, MANY years later, they fulfilled even my wildest dreams and gave it a Mega. Thanks for these amazing runs. I get amazing memories every time I watch them.

[@Nathan_Moor]

The competition format is the best part of this, it really innovates on the 'how fast can this beat that' format.

[@DragonZer0]

This entire run was a Giggity!

[@solgaleo3533]

Amazing video. I loved the joke you told. I’d love to see a Jynx vs Mr. Mime run (although they’re more even in modern generations with the fairy type), a Machoke vs Alakazam run (although it’d be fairer in gen 2), a Hitmonlee vs Hitmonchan run (a couple of these you’ve done solo), Arcanine vs Ninetales or Muk vs Weezing. For Johto, I’d suggest Girafarig vs Stantler, Miltank vs Tauros, Espeon vs Umbreon, Gligar vs Sneasel, Tyranitar vs Dragonite, Ledian vs Ariados, Magcargo vs Quagsire and Wobuffet vs Sudowoodo (battle of the mimics) Sorry to spam you with ideas. I made sure they had similar BSTs (no more than 10 points apart) but I didn’t really account for movesets. Some of them are a pair of powerhouses while others… not so much. I tried to think outside the box for some of these. Magcargo and Quagsire, for example, have the same BST and have two opposing types. I also have a lot of ideas for if you ever decide to leave Kanto and Johto on a voyage across the sea to Hoenn or on a trek north through the mountains towards Sinnoh. Again, sorry and thank you for the great video.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Great ideas. I wish I had the time to bring all of these to life right now!

[@nateschendel4585]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon im guessing beedrill in gen 1 way better moveset Even though butterfree has much higher base stats I actually think butterfree wins gen 2 though because badge boost glitch isn't there and solarbeam n gigadrain n psychic are all upgraded

[@JonS554]

I've been obsessed with your videos ever since i found you through KZbin suggested videos while watching a Jrose video and I must say, you definitely deserve more subscribers. The work you put into these playthroughs really shows. Ive even seen you do 3 runs in a row to try and tiebreak. That's dedication

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks Jon. I’m glad you notice all the work I put into these videos. It’s a good thing I like Pokémon yellow a lot because these videos require a lot of playthroughs.

[@BrainInAVat7]

Every video gets noticeably better, so the work is paying off! If you ever tire of solo runs, you could capstone the bug series with a bug monotype run.

[@zordonthevoyagesof577]

When you're doing a solo run and you take the time to tell use which fossil you take. Gold. I laugh every time.

[@mistingwolf]

Wow, not the result I was expecting! Beedrill really did a great job even though it had a slow start.

[@geegee2925]

Did not expect the comeback kid to show up. Honestly thought Beedrill would get hung up on a couple fights. Didn’t expect swords dance and thought you’d have to resort to badge boost or mega drain on Gio’s Rhydon. Nice runs!

[@freiherrart]

And when you give an eevee a cookie it becomes an Oreon

[@cherioke6227]

Just finished his safari VS video, love that he was just a noob that wanted to make some content with his favorite games. I myself only played up till gen 3, but the amount of poketubers, online guides, and websites has got me jumping back in with an understanding of the game and its mechanics. Its got me super excited with anything pokemon like never before, even after so many years! Love your series KEEP IT UP!!

[@blinkspot2667]

Wait, Beedrill gets Hyper Beam? That's crazy! I never knew that! How would it even fire them out?

[@GMJ7]

In the Stadium games, Beedrill fires it out of the stinger on its butt. 😐

[@blinkspot2667]

@@GMJ7 OK, that's kinda funny actually.

[@marcoasturias8520]

How anything fires hyper beam?

[@solbradguy7628]

Great race! Been loving the content and I just wanted to say thanks so much for reading and responding to comments! It's made me feel a lot more connected to this channel and I can't wait to see it grow.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You're welcome Sol Bradguy. I guess other KZbinrs just don't? Feels weird to me to not try to connect in some way with all of you. After all, I want to improve and there is constantly unsolicited suggestions and feedback. Sometimes people are just nice too, or they say the video made their day better! Before starting this channel up I was looking for a way to help more people than I was with my current line of work and apparently this actually does that for some!

[@TheDiscoveryCH]

Awesome to see this channel grow so fast as it's doing. I am glad I gave it a chance. Like you said, it wasn't easy watching some of the first challenges but then seeing you reflect on your mistakes in the very next challenge was quite lovely. It really gave a sense of progression. Maybe once you're done with the gen 1 bug types, you could try gen 2 of 3 to see how the game's improvements hurt/helped the bug types

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Glad you gave me a change too! Funny thing is I feel like I am currently learning faster than I can produce videos. By the time I am assembling the final edit I want to go back reshoot all the footage and rewrite the script haha. I'd never release anything though if I waited for it to be perfect...

[@et34t34fdf]

You should have used mimic with Butterfree to get an ice move, would have gotten past Lance much earlier.

[@jasonramero6274]

A mega bee drill run would be super fun to watch. Keep up the good work, your my favorite Pokémon KZbinr!

[@FlamingAomeba]

Beedrill is my favorite Pokémon from Gen 1, and I actually bred a shiny one for ORAS! Bugs being my overall favorite type, I love seeing these two insects putting in work XD Great stuff here, this video was a great watch.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks Doctor Dischord! That’s awesome that you got a shiny Beedrill! I’ve come to really like it as well!

[@isaacallen563]

I've always loved Beedrill, easily one of my favorite pokemon. I mean come on, it has giant spike things for hands. That's just cool

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I missed an opportunity to talk about how cool it's spike hands are........

[@isaacallen563]

Don't be too hard on yourself. At least you got Venemoth's typing right

[@callumcartini]

Yes Finally more videos! I already know this video is gonna be great!

[@devinmiracle7680]

It really comes down to the league. During the Gym Challenge, give me Butterfree all day long. But Beedrill is just so much more equipped to handle the Elite 4 and the Champion. Awesome video!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

So true! Butterfree feels so good throughout the Gym challenge until like Sabrina, Blaine, Giovanni. In that portion neither of these Bugs are particularly well equipt. But for the league. Beedrill baby!

[@Calyxsys_]

Dome fossil best fossil, also I've really enjoyed your journey on this channel, you always sound so excited when you learn new info and expand your knowledge and power. It's nice to watch people grow both as people and you can tell you genuinely enjoy it because you aren't mean or anything from the advice, you are purely grateful and appreciative for what we as a community teach/show you and my gosh i just enjoy you as a content creator. Keep up the awesome work Scott, much love.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks so much Nullex_, I am enjoying this journey so much. At each stage I feel like I am climbing a mountain and then I realize that there is another one on the other side. With everyone's feedback and my consistent work I'm so curious to see what my content will look like in several months or a year from now!

[@TheAnalyticalEngine]

Butterfree vs. Beedrill in Gold/Silver?

[@alexbarnes2904]

Another great video, well done!!! As for your release schedule, I'm OK with getting only one video per week. The quality of your work has improved immensely since you started, and I'd hate to see a drop in quality just to increase quantity. Of course, if you can get more episodes out per week without burning yourself out, I'd be extremely happy too!!!!!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks for the concern about me burning out. So many people have expressed that and it means a lot. I'm trying to put in place processes that allow for content quality to improve (or at worst maintain at the current level) while increasing volume. Not sure I'm going to have everything up and running for a few months though. Waiting out the GPU shortage and trying to find some additional people to help me with some behind the scenes stuff...

[@AAX11111]

>Becomes a Patreon >Think this ISNT cringy AF dad humor. Scott you cause me immense physical pain with that joke. Sweet christ

[@tenfoldgambit9372]

Great to see you go back to some of the early challenges to see how much has been learned on this channel 😁 Great video, as always!

[@rayr2914]

Would had absolutely thought Butterfree would had won...wow...awesome content ! Subscribed!!!!

[@linuxelitist]

Lord Helix is pleased at your progress!

[@FreakSlimeHere]

Wow, I am honestly pretty impressed on how this one turned out. I was banking all my money and rooting for the presumably underdog beedrill here with you during the splits. Who would've thought that stinger had so much hidden firepower! Like, I've always disrespected It because of his performance versus Brock but now my eyes are opened. Thanks a lot for that! And what a beautiful editing your videos have. I really enjoy going back and seeing all your improvements over the challenges, it's so much fun! Can't wait for the next one!

[@Sommers27]

YESSS My favorite pokemon of all time won

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Glad I could add some content to make your night better

[@PuppetsByPalmieri]

Thanks for what you do! Always enjoy!

[@mattycans6994]

This is why when Butterfree is blessed with compound eyes and better flying moves it's a beast! I'm shocked with how amazing beedrill preformed in the late game, I have some new found respect for it. :D

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Watch the follow up too! Did better with both of them ;)

[@janmarkcastillovisto4196]

Whenever i'm feeling under the weather, ill just run to this channel and watch 😊 thank you!

[@dubwagner]

Thanks Scott. As always, love the video! Excited for the Fossil challenge next week.

[@soulslvr9562]

I knew my boy "Pikachu" would make it! Way to go my buzzy buddy

[@nikaoharbour6962]

Now its time for bee drill vs the psychic dragon herself venomoth

[@brendanhart517]

I knew brock would cost beedrill a lot of time but the bug moves really did more than I thought and swords dance hyper beam did the rest. I’m so used to hyper beam being underwhelming in later gens grats on a great video

[@zorghungry]

It's pretty neat seeing your journey as a KZbinr, keep up the great work buddy

[@RarutoUchiha2]

That moment when the Rock Tunnel Hiker is consistently harder than the Indigo Plateau Hiker lol. Maybe if Bruno had 2 exploding Golems instead of two weak Onixes he'd be more of a challenge.

[@simplyrenirambus2982]

This is why Beedrill is a Gen 1 staple for getting rid of Grass/Poison types and Psychic types.

[@robo361]

Always trust drills, they'll pierce the heavens

[@Medabee8]

25:42: Twin-Needle is only Super-effective vs Arbok. You are actually dealing neutral DMG vs all of her other Pokemon. Bug does 1/2 DMG to Ghost.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Indeed. Thanks for the reminder ;)

[@henrymars6626]

Taking an entire turn just to wake up. Just like my d&d group last night. Except everyone stayed asleep.

[@ryuuf]

As a kid i always had teams with sleeping tm's, i remember Wiglipuff with the singing tm and mega punch, jynx with kiss and ice beam, haunter with hypnosis and night shade, butterfree with sleep powder and psychic.

[@archiiebarrett]

Let's see a Seaking vs Seadra run. No one ever uses those water types in gen 1, so we don't know who's better.

[@jtd8391]

Great runs and it great to see how much you have improved in your runs and content Keep it up

[@dannykrise9721]

No idea how i missed this upload looking forward to this

[@christophercouncil28]

Sooner or later you're going to realize then I'm off at the steel psychic type LOL love your content

[@christophercouncil28]

Venomoth*

[@scottyjoe6966]

Now all we need is a yellow venomoth vs parasect challenge run. Then the winners of the 3 bug runs duke it out. Same with the losers for a final bug type championship run between the winners of those two brackets.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

...... shhhhhhhhh :P

[@scottyjoe6966]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon also, your girlfriend can be the ring girl. It does hit that obligatory mention requiren- I mean demonstration of affection.

[@acdcljb]

Our boy is learning! But yeah, learnsets are finicky in Gen I, however super damaging moves like Hyper Beam, Double-Edge and Solarbeam are always a solid choice in solo runs.

[@joel2628]

So, your hindsight as to how you performed in your previous videos reminded me of when I turned on my copy of B2 after a few years. Setting aside the fact that I had no idea what I was doing in the game, I was going to reset it. However, I had learned a lot about the games, stats, mechanics, movesets, etc. I opened up my Samurott's summary to check his movesets and I looked to see what I could only describe was the shittiest moveset. Literally 3 water moves and no coverage. I laughed so hard, reset the game and now Samurott is better. I am still trying to figure out EVs and IVs, though. By the way, Scott, your video commentary was relatable this week and that's what made me remember about that all-water Samurott. Made me laugh at what a noob I was until I actually decided to learn about Pokémon. Keep up the great work!

[@dangerfield6855]

"dome fossil. Obviously" gotta love you man. Can you get to Golduck already? Its my favorite gen1 Pokemon.

[@dariopaschinger79]

I’ve been watching so many of your videos now - I really have no idea anymore what’s venomoths actual typing 😂

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Reality is bending and falling apart. Soon it won't have an actual typing.

[@n64p3]

Your videos are great. Can’t wait to see what you have for next week!

[@MattDRT0358]

Thanks for another great video mate!!!

[@hippiesanonymous]

“It becomes a patreon” is clever not gonna lie

[@xlro8f853]

Beating the game with just Beedrill is a feat of its own, and I like Beedrill.

[@CrocBankRbbr]

Happy Monday to this guy

[@Seraphina_Shadow97]

Bro that Patreon comment was epic I was rolling lol

[@alexthefloorwarmingwarrior503]

Anther amazing video ! Keep dropping the gold

[@JayHankEdLyon]

I feel like Twineedle/SD/Swift/Mega Drain would be Beedrill's fastest set. SD+Swift is likely not substantially weaker than Hyper Beam to be worth the time investment of gathering money and buying coins, and Mega Drain can wreck Rhydons.

[@SoraDonaldGoofy99]

I just used Double-Edge instead of Mega Drain because I didn't need to, but I was sure Hyper Beam wasn't necessary.

[@zeaferjones1404]

Everyone seems to forget about Pin Missile. Twin Needle is great but Pin Missile is similar and can hit up to 5 times. The only problem is it's accuracy is a little lower than Twin Needle. You are right Swift is a must have with Beedrill. I'd go Swords Dance, Pin Missile, Twin Needle and Swift.

[@SoraDonaldGoofy99]

@@zeaferjones1404 I found Pin Missile to be inconsistent, and Twineedle just seemed to be the better move in most situations. I even got Swift right before the league when I was trying to figure out if Pin Missile was going to help, and was going to replace it with Mega Drain, until I saw an MDB vid where I found out where Swift was in Gen 1, so I grabbed it and went to the League with Double-Edge, Swift, Swords Dance, and Twineedle. Managed to win my second try.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Swift for Sabrina at least. Sword Dance on Abra and then Swift sweep. So simple. Do that before Blaine.

[@SoraDonaldGoofy99]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon And to think I was using Double-Edge just because I didn't know where Swift was.

[@jumper9108]

Really happy to see your growth brother. Keep up the good work.

[@jumper9108]

And thanks to Dennis 🙏🏻

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Indeed. Thanks to Denis.

[@fredrikbernehed8368]

Personal opinion/preference: Some fights when you are at a potential hard or dangerous fight you spoil the resault at the start of the fight. It would be more interesting if your comments are either not spoilery, or if they are slightly delayed so they synch better with when it happens in the video:) (It could be spoiling the whole fight, but also smaller things like missing a crucial attack or an fortunate/unfortunate crit) All in all, I think delaying the sound a second or so would solve most of those things c: Also, great work!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks for the feedback. I am actively aware of this and am working on it! By the time content releases it's been over a month since I started production on it. I became very aware of the issue you mentioned after this script was completed. Expect this to begin to improve over the next month or so.

[@SirAthiro]

Basically this comes down to Sleep Powder and Psychic vs Swords Dance and Hyper Beam. I'm rooting for Beedrill for reasons...

[@luigibarqs]

Beginning to wonder if Toxic might have been an option for Butterfree once it hit the league. Could have stalled and healed with Rest as Toxic wore down the special walls. Great video, very interesting.

[@jakerockznoodles]

Hooray! Beedrill was one of my favourite gen1 pokemon. Even though its not wonderful in battle, I always loved its design. Interesting that it lagged most of the run, but made up for it in consistency against the elite 4. My experience with him was that he was great as long as you could set up so that you could beat them before they got the chance to beat you. He's frail but can become fast and/or powerful with the right movesets.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Probably could have got closer to Butterfree's initial time if I had optimized and made less miss-plays against Blaine. Overall Beedrill just feels much more consistent.

[@AngelofHell1311]

I hope Beedrill wins would be a great Birthday present 😁

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Happy birthday Adrian! Hope you have an awesome day.

[@AngelofHell1311]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon thx had a great day although it's almost done 😅

[@Kintizen]

Either Beedrill or Jolteon is a must have because of Pin Missile, It's the best move to counter the Psychic power house.

[@richarddill692]

My money is on Beedrill. I used to think it was worthless, but after playing through hgss with one, I came to really appreciate it.

[@mightofanubis3238]

Been waiting for this one.

[@ryanlane680]

A big disappointment of my childhood was I could never catch khangaskhan in the safari zone, I was so sucked in tho it always felt like I was playing the show in my mind and I was hooked an amazing game all around

[@n64_kfp]

Not sure how I missed this video when I was binging your whole video list. Anyway, I was surprised at how much better Beedrill is than Butterfree. I figured the badge boost glitch would work in its favor more than sleep powder would for Butterfree, but not saving during the E4+ really showed how broken the badge boost glitch is. I think in FR/LG this matchup would be a bit closer, although Beedrill might still win due to how impressive swords dance is.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Check out my followup video for this one. There is another incredibly powerful strategy for Butterfree to use that I missed the first time around. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4PGlImvqLNqlbs

[@marcjohn9404]

Beedrill is a frickin' champ late in the game with the Swords Dance! It's amazing how easily it cuts through everything when you've got the 3x SD with Hyper Beam. It also helps that Beedrill does have above average base ATK. Butterfree is the more versatile Pokemon but it doesn't have that combination of moves it can learn where it can just clean house.

[@fragbaitbeta]

Lord Dome is awesome, well done praising him.

[@kara4971]

I would love a Beautifly vs Dustox version of this

[@ChaseWSanders]

I will start a petition with the government to change Venemoth to bug/flying.

[@DarkMagicianGirl0]

I think instead for a few Pokemon (Venemoth included) a third typing would be good instead Kind of overpowered but to be honest it is just as good as it is bad so I think (other than triple STAB) it would be very balanced

[@autobotstarscream765]

That would just nerf it though, since its current Steel/Dragon typing is more resilient for Toxic stalling and setting up with Quiver Dance.

[@jorgerichmond6979]

Venom Moth, its poison/bug right? I legitimately have no idea anymore!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Reality is bending.

[@BabusGameRoom]

Sleep was broken in Gen 1. As a representative of Team B, I demand a sleep-less rematch!!! haha 22:28 "Why didn't I just use swift?" ...you could've used Hyper Beam too! haha The ending definitely surprised me, though!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Maybe no sleep or swords dance. SD is pretty broken in gen 1 too.

[@BabusGameRoom]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Swords Dance can backfire though, when you get a crit. Sleep is just OP! haha

[@special_kitty7195]

Originally I was a Butterfree kid. Now I'm more fond of Beedrill for whatever reason. Prolly because it wasn't as popular. It really needed better moves in early gens, well so did butternuts too

[@FuDDEX420]

Prediction before the video. Butterfree does very well up until the sixth gym (Sabrina). I believe Beedrill will make up large amounts of time when he gets swords dance. Butterfree may need to restart certain fights multiple times or grind more levels compared to Beedrill against certain trainers. Because Beedrill can setup. Butterfree does get access to a bunch of status condition moves making fights easier. (Starmie for example, 6th gym) I believe Butterfree will be about 30 minutes ahead of Beedrill around the 4th gym.