The Most Overrated Car Manufacturers [S5, E11]

[@tonymoreton7166]

It's pure gold getting Tony on to the subject of Teslas.

[@SWR112]

Tony they are some of the highest rated Cars in the satisfaction charts. People like them, they like how effortless they are to drive. A Seven year old will point out a Tesla at 200 yards without any advertising. The seats are massive improvement 2021. Tony is so out of touch it’s enjoyable, yeah how many Cars burn. Tesla threaten his business because younger generation doesn’t want to own a Car and have a mill stone sitting costing a fortune they want to press an app and a car turn up to use for a few hours. They do burn longer and more difficult to put out if they do go on fire but do it very slowly just need to look at that Girl 21 year old in the states a utuber best friend in his Lamborghini on Halloween. Regardless of who was at fault getting hit side it burned so rapidly they couldn’t get her out that’s self combustion. RIP Tiara Van Northwick.

[@CC8sX06]

@@SWR112 I´ve noticed that Tesla brought interest in cars from people that never before care about them. Could this be an indication that most people who highly regards Tesla, whether owners or not, haven´t experienced other cars in that price bracket? And those who experience tons of brands up close (such as Tony), can´t deal with the Hype? I mean, a Tesla Model X is soooo nice, but then you get in a X5M or an Audi RSQ8.... And you realize the X isn´t that nice, but actually a bit off in many departments, yet the biased praise remains.

[@tonymoreton7166]

@@SWR112 No issue with people who like & want to drive Teslas or other EVS at all. Each to their own. As long as I can keep driving my V8's and flat sixes, which I'm sure I will be able to, not at all fussed.

[@faisalleeds]

Surprised about Tony's anecdote with the 'quick' Tesla. I have seen loads and never once seen one being nailed or driven fast. Probably as the owners don't care about the acceleration or they are crapping their pants with range anxiety and slowing down!

[@JJ-vy2rh]

EVs no good in outback Australia

[@hippy420]

This channel does such a good job filling the void that used to be top gear. Good job Sam. Thankyou for all your content 👏

[@larssonk22]

not sure where you're seeing the correlation. You know TopGear is back, first episode of the season was last Sunday.

[@benkrapf]

@@larssonk22 Maybe he doesn't see current TG as a proper analogue to old TG.

[@larssonk22]

@@benkrapf are people still hung up over that? I thought the Grand Tour was old TG.

[@markflower8885]

Can't believe Sam hasn't considered an F Pace SVR with the new infotainment system. Unbelievable value for money and he loved it when he tested it.

[@rahulsudhir666]

They're gorgeous lookin n all, but I felt that they don't have the same brutishness that the Range Rover SVR exudes

[@FrostyAston]

@@rahulsudhir666 a far better SVR product than the Range Rover. More dynamic, sporty and a lot quicker.

[@rickchardet01]

He has, Alexander from Alexander's prestige recommended it to him in last week's SUV Special

[@rahulsudhir666]

@@FrostyAston True true. What I meant was that looks wise I personally felt that the F Pace, even in the SVR trim, looks like a lil tame.. Like a high riding GT car.. Like a Macan.. Whereas the Range has the butch brawler looks like the G Wagen

[@johnnyboy1586]

@@rahulsudhir666 just not very reliable

[@veemacks7255]

It surprises me that no KZbinr (excluding Sam's X3) ever buys a lower engine model than the absolute top one. It's always Turbo S, or RS, or AMG, or 'M'. Personally I get the largest engine'd version that doesn't creep into those special versions. My last 5 cars have been Mercedes E400 T (V6 333ps), Mercedes S500 (V8 435ps), Mercedes E500 T (V8 435ps), Mercedes E500 (V8 408ps), BMW 545i (V8 333ps). In no instance have I wished I had the AMG or the M when it comes to comfort, suspension and sensible noise levels. Those extra 100-200 horses on the top end are so rarely used, even on the Autobahns in normal traffic. My suggestion for Sam is the car I test drove last week ... BMW X5 50i (450 ps). Or the car I'm testing tomorrow ... BMW 540i Touring (340 ps).

[@callummccubbing4506]

Agreed. I'd far rather have the power/speed and yet keep the understatedness of the car. Although I do like the M40i a lot. Do you reckon a Macan is somewhat understated if it wasn't a GTS?

[@MrJordanSDean]

The answer to that is simple: people admire the higher end models, nobody wants a mid tier model

[@veemacks7255]

@@MrJordanSDean That's a very show-off attitude though. In 99% of scenarios, you'd enjoy driving the top-engined comfortable non-AMG/RS/M model. Is it really worth paying up to 50% more to get the top model for that 1% of driving scenarios where those extra horses make the difference? Not for me. It's not the price that drives that decision for me, I can afford the top models, it's value for money and usability.

[@kevletmein]

That’s a very good idea in my opinion. Hadn’t thought of that.

[@anthonyjarvis9472]

Sam your logic has an issue, it may be the car you spend most time in but its the one your audience see the least, so the question is - what will make you happy but doesnt waste the budget you could use to continue growing your channel. I WOULD ALSO SAY TESLA ARE 10X MORE OVERPRICED THAN THE DBX, THEY ARE UGLY AND INSANE MONEY, WHAT A JOKE. I AGREE WITH TONY 100%

[@RAZGR1Z]

At least with the DBX you don't have to worry about a spontaneous combustion or the car steering you into the divider.

[@willtly]

Totally agree with Tony regards Tesla, always said the interiors on the Tesla’s are horrendous. Ugly, cheap plastic. Horrible car.

[@andrewwood2294]

You should let Tony choose your car and you have to keep it for a min of six months

[@Taylor40667]

Sam why get into more debt (finance) this is a daily which like the x3 is in the background. Why spend £700 a month on a car when you really need a 20k diesel alfa. Really the x3 is all the car I wouldnt be changing it whats the point? Spend your money on cars you really want

[@SWatchik]

100% this. if anything he should just go with a cheaper X3 that actually has the sunroof he wanted and keep the money for other projects

[@brandenalexander6038]

X5 m50d is bigger and better

[@supraJZA80s]

Because he obviously needs a full size performance SUV to cart around himself and his girlfriend around London 🤦‍♂️

[@user-sw3tr1wh4q]

This podcast continues to get better and better! Really happy for you guys and couldn’t happen to nicer blokes - genuinely nice people to hang out with at the live episodes. Onwards and upwards!

[@pegsy7206]

Apparently Audi haven't bought Mclaren "A report from Autocar has claimed that Audi have secured an entry into Formula 1 by striking a deal to buy out the entire McLaren Group - but that was quickly denied."

[@jjjfo1818]

They havent lol it was proven fake like immediately

[@lorinsmith9898]

The😅ra😊

[@jaykay4218]

Sam, have not heard anybody suggest an XC60. The T8 polestar looks great, has 455 bhp, really comfortable to drive, and has just had a refresh so the tech and infotainment is bang up to date - has google built in.

[@bigmini2870]

I was gonna suggest this, amazing car

[@RAZGR1Z]

Volvo has Chinese quality control, no thanks.

[@jaykay4218]

@@RAZGR1Z Rubbish. All European and American XC60s are made in Sweden. The quality control is superb.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Is the handling feel any better on these polestars or is it still a touch too numb and placid. That was the crux that sent us back to the Germans last time.

[@jaykay4218]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks yes, the have an ohlins setup

[@bjakobs98]

An alpina B5 touring would be so darn cool

[@afonsosouto9502]

You should buy a f-pace svr, it has the tech and same engine as the f-type

[@SifuJames77]

Was waiting for Tony to say "get a Disco" during the SUV discussion, glad I wasn't disappointed!

[@richardhintonracing]

Ever heard of Auto Union or the Porsche engined Arrows F1 team or the Porsche F1 team in the 1960s ?

[@andrewhurstcars]

Sam why don’t you go in a different direction and just buy a X3 3.0d second hand, at whatever your cash budget is. Avoid all the finance etc. Also you’ll find an X3 easier to park in London than a Panamera or X5.

[@I_am_Jesus_though]

Hard to go from a 40i to 30d

[@-LK34-]

Different direction? He literally has an X3 just now🤣

[@andrewhurstcars]

@@-LK34- yes I know, I meant a different direction from all these large performance 4x4s & Panameras on finance that he’s looking at. Do a cash purchase of what he can afford as a cash buy without finance.

[@sanmarino_cs1698]

The single worst thing about Tesla owners is they refer to their “Model 3” as an M3.

[@irGuilty]

That should be a crime

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Master stroke by Tesla though.

[@FrostyAston]

Nice to meet you @ the Salon Privé with the Project 8s. As others have said I’m surprised you haven’t considered the F-Pace SVR. A lot more dynamic than the RR and at a decent price.

[@ajcgolf69]

I think you’ll find a Lamborghini Diablo that can testify that Paddy McGuiness definitely does his own driving in top gear

[@Mattceeee]

I have a Tesla and love it. I also have a C63 AMG and love that too. We're not all greenies

[@Mike-dd8bd]

Just a warning to anyone considering a new Audi. I had a 2019 A4 with old infotainment which has zero problems. Then upgraded to a 2020 S4 and it had non stop problems with the infotainment system. My boss drives a 2020 Q8 and also had non stop infotainment system problems. The dealership actually put a new ECM into the car hoping it would fix the problem but it never did.

[@RAZGR1Z]

German manufacturers have fallen off.

[@onkouth]

Aston Martin need to realise that they are not that special and either design and spec their cars to a price point or go fully high end and only build things like the Valkyrie, Valhalla, Lagonda etc, they can’t keep building average cars and charging Ferrari money for cars with Mercedes dynamics just because their name sounds posh!

[@graygamingps4503]

They are not that special? You've got to be joking. Aston Martin are easily on the level of any manufacturer you care to mention. Their build quality is above that of a Ferrari or Lamborghini in my experience. Also, even the ones with AMG derived engines drive nothing like an AMG, the vast majority of the car is still Aston Martin

[@SpontaneousEvolution]

The Alpina B5 is such a cool car! You'd be the only KZbinr to have one 👌

[@1nstantClassic]

We want Tony on the final F1 reaction podcast!

[@tededmondson]

That whole thing about 'Paul nearly died' means Tesla are rubbish... It was because of the radar/auto brake tech on it. Which is not exclusive to Tesla. It happened to me in my Golf R on the A12... Bit of paper blew in front of the car, radar thought we were going to crash and slammed the anchors on. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Tesla fan at all, but the 'it slams the brakes on while you're driving it' isn't a good reason not to get a Tesla, it's a good reason not to get any car with radar tech.

[@BarryMakariou]

This podcast makes my Thursdays!

[@DivineFrag]

This might seem a bit random, but I do occasionally find myself thinking that Lexus is a bit overrated. The quality isn't no longer what it used to be and it's getting outcompeted in its price class of 'luxury carmakers' by the German big 3. Not only this, but their top-of-the-line products genuinely are starting to become even more expensive than those of the German big 3.

[@matthewyoung3942]

Only my opinion but I’d be seriously consider the X5 45e, really decent electric range and I was shocked at the performance when I drove it. I managed a 5.2 second to 62 launch and the mid range (with charge) was very impressive it has to be said. I came away from the experience shocked at how complete that car was. That said it needs charge to get the most out of the efficiency….

[@faisalleeds]

Sounds good, I think he should head down the hybrid route for city driving it makes sense and also works on longer trips if you can charge it up.

[@drivenmad2089]

Just get the 110 defender 😂. Still rugged look and tech you like but way more practical. Great episode again guys!

[@joshuathompson6720]

Thank you very much for posting this. Stuck in traffic for two hours kept me laughing and in a good mood. Tony up the security the tesla fanboys are coming for you. 100% agree with you

[@benzinapaul7416]

Teslas: Windscreens crack, software shuts down, trims fall off, doors don't open, the wiring cracks, the paint is shit, panel fit is awful and so many repairs are Tesla dealer only and the waiting times are too long. I'm a fleet manager, Tesla's are no longer offered on our fleets, the downtime is too long. Tesla should just sell their drivetrains and let the Germans and Japanese build on their chassis

[@bispal]

You keep banging on negatively about McLaren, the build quality on the 2 I have had a 12C and 675LT has been outstanding. Much better than Lamborghini and Ferrari and very few issues, reliability on the 675LT over 2 years and 8k miles has been 100% reliable. You have not really spoken to many McLaren owners to formulate your views.

[@johnlong123long]

great episode. I love Shmeeeeee but he never has a bad word to say about anything...

[@christopherbritt1496]

Why is no one talking about the Range Rover velar for Sams new daily?

[@Dieene1234]

That green B5 is something different. What a luxury. 100% people will have a look when arriving in style at a event

[@denisspratt926]

You forgot that Lamborghini was involved in F1 in 1991 with the Modena team. I do agree with Tony on Tesla. They are only fast in a straight line. They are terrible around corners, and the suspicion is really bad on uneven surface. Quality is crap, lots of paint issues, cheap interior. And I live in Norway where there are millions of them. Most people that buy Teslas are interested in tech, not in cars. Model 3 has horrible rust protection. And yes Porsche is quite boring. 993 and older where fun. Because they were difficult to drive compared to the newer ones. Nice video though. Keep up the good work.

[@1nstantClassic]

The only thing Telsa has is the charging network. The Taycan is now selling 2 to 1 over the model S in America already. Dollar for dollar the Porsche is better.

[@RAZGR1Z]

I'd say the bigger advantage for Tesla is the Cult of Elon and the status symbol that Tesla has turned into.

[@brianiswrong]

So It shows just how important a decent charging infrastructure is going to be. Elon got it right,spend a fortune on building the charging infrastructure and people will buy your cars based on being able to use them,rather than walk passed them based on build quality.

[@michaelcohen7617]

Went to test drive a pre owned Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quad. When I arrived at the dealership they could not get the car started. Enough said!!

[@dirkcuypers6669]

Enough said about the brand or the dealership? Ever considered the car could be standing there for a couple of months without charging the battery?

[@x8dudtrackdaytoy]

Couldn’t agree with Tony more on Tesla 🤣

[@Manofsteel8640]

You don’t need an SUV Sam. M3 Touring, bring back Estates/Station Wagons!!!!

[@mrpennison]

Tesla buyers are tech fanboys not petrol heads that's why they love them because they know zilch about cars. The panel gaps would make any petrol head walk away. A toddler could align the panels better and build a better quality interior

[@Some.One_Unknown]

I'd have to agree with Sam about "normal" 911 models: Having been constantly told countless times that the GTS 911s are the ones to go for; went and test drove a 997 GTS ... I would describe the whole driving experience of that day as "Remarkably Unremarkable".

[@Some.One_Unknown]

As for Tesla: I believe that they are the absolute perfect car for people who "fundamentally do not like driving". *Not meant to be a derogatory comment, by the way ~ Simply my personal observation.

[@borinvlogs]

The company i work for provides engineering solutions to McLaren to make anything lighter, stronger, enhance speed and agility. Very high percentage of carbon parts we manufacture get rejected by QC as the attention to details and quality control is just so high standard even for something or a part that the owner will never ever see or look. That's why MSO options are very expensive as well.

[@jackgarside8550]

Alpina is such a good shout

[@zzhughesd]

Did enjoy the video you two. Biggest take aways is that I think Sam loves MPG over character. Sam you love Alfa as a brand and yet doesn’t want the Stelvio Must be MPG. It’s the better car. The X5 M will be lovely but depreciate even harder. Just buy the Stelvio put the extra fuel in. It’ll work out better you’ll enjoy the car more.

[@ckmurphy1]

I love Thursday mornings thanks guys☕️

[@JP516]

Love the GLE 53 AMG ! But never drove one but looks proper ! I was thinking the same Sam !

[@gedam131]

well the coupe looks awful

[@eliotthuylenbroeck4661]

The mercede e53 amg is a great car for you mate...good infotaiment system, great sound system,...at least go check it out.

[@ForecourtFilms]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Land Rover. I've never known a brand create so much want and yet be so utterly horrendous when it comes to reliability. Especially when you take into consideration how expensive they are to buy

[@jasondurden2803]

Sam, forget SUV's a green / congac B5 LCI wagon is simply the most understated, monied and classiest way to get around. A 4door Porsche is so obvious and new money.

[@chrisdyson5513]

Great podcast, a bit of information, Porsche entered factory F1 cars in the 1961/62 seasons and won with Dan Gurney at the French Grand Prix in 1962. I believe, although I haven’t checked that Audi grew out of the Auto Union team who were mighty in the 1930s.

[@talktorque9330]

Sad, Sam, Sam. Porsche 911…..mate. I’ve had 2 and as Tony said, how can you possibly be disappointed in such a wonderful machine.

[@nathandrake6531]

never hold Tony back

[@GazMoby]

Been holding out on lunch for this. 😁

[@englishjames007]

@55.05...... Oh my word, everybody and I mean EVERYBODY I know, who's driven/ owned a non-GT product 911, has said "hmmm....I just thought it'd be faster/ more special". EVERY one of them, as in double-digits.

[@scottthomson9813]

If VW is now in F1 then its imperative that the McLaren's must be re-liveried to match Herbie the Love Bug.

[@JohhnooTheBeast]

Yesss, this bad boy is basically an hour. Although... I'm up at 5am so off to sleep I go 😂

[@tomlister1295]

We have an SQ7 within the family, with the 4.0 TDI V8 and I generally can’t see which car would be better within the price range, stupid fast for its size and still returns 34mpg since new after 15k. Would be my choice out of the car you mentioned hands down

[@SumYungGai1]

Alpina B3 touring would be ideal

[@daveyt6513]

Hope you go for the X5 all kitted up. I’m thinking of buying the exact same so watching you would help enormously. I saw a metallic black one and he had the kit painted metallic black too rather than gloss black. It looked the business. The body kit looks great but I’d have to delete the small lip spoiler on the tailgate below the window, a step too far for me. Fingers crossed you get one. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

[@danielenticknap7540]

Just pointing out that the 2021 Alfas have touch screen and apple CarPlay and android auto as standard and all the internet connect nonsense with wireless charging. CarPlay and Android auto were standard from later 2018 albeit with no touchscreen at that time. The tech is good and easy to use.

[@poweravery4410]

Great to watch when ya stuck in with Covid 😷

[@matthewyoung3942]

Oh and on a separate note it would be incredible to see Chris and/or Freddie and Paddy on the show with you and Tony (and yes I refer to this as a show as I think the content and production is ‘show’ worthy). As an example the dynamic and contrasting of opinions between Tony, Chris and Paddy would be golden with you and Fred adding some balance to it. I’m not going to lie the idea of the 5 of you being on the same episode spells absolute disaster from a control and production aspect but my god it’s got STG and BTG record views written all over it. I’m only saying this as Chris owes you for the collecting cars pod you did with him… make it happen Sam!!!!

[@gaz6643]

Good one Sam with the 911, hopefully a few more KZbinrs slate it and prices might fall, so i can get one. Maybe thats his plan for himself.

[@mathieurobert8156]

Get an Alpina D5 touring!!! Depreciated by half already so can't be that expensive in monthly payments and still got all the latest tech

[@shankervasudev]

I think the GLE is the way to go. They are comfortable,has excellent infotainment and the 53 has a buttery smooth engine.

[@Coronerlex]

The point of the daily is to be boring, but comfortable, reliable, and have all the kit to make the commutes and long car journeys enjoyable. An exciting daily will feel average quite quickly if you're just using it to pop to the shops and drive through London.

[@mrbojangles5313]

If I had had the foresight, opportunity and actual capability to copyright the word “mate”, I would be able to make a sizeable dent in my mortgage thanks to this podcast.

[@1961Password]

If Tesla people in particular are so concerned about the environment, why don't they all buy the cheapest, lest impactful model? Without researching, I would guess that the biggest selling models are the twin motor, fastest, most impactful, types.

[@720sobsessed6]

Have two mclarens no issues in 2 and a half years and the cars blow away every other supercar

[@colinwatt00]

Hard agree with Tony! Journalists & KZbinrs don’t want to bite the hand that feeds.

[@bringer666]

I have to disagree on the 911 being overrated. I would absolutely love a new 911. For the normal people (i.e. not driving supercars all the time), it's one of the best sportscars and would feel very special. I do agree that if you drive it as a daily driver (and you can with a Porsche) that it might become boring but I could say that about any car. If you drive a Koenigsegg as a daily driver (much harder to do), after awhile it will become boring too. That's just human nature.

[@duffyt26]

XC60/90, T8 hybrid engine for a lazy 400bhp, electric, decent enough interior and tech but one of the best audio systems, air suspension and it's half price of your mentiones cars. Me, i'd have a X5 m550d tho. Same audio availible in the BMW too! Way better quality allround and BMWs diesel engines, unlike the petrols, are forevermachines. At least the 3 litre ones! Go for it Sam! And get a car audio guy to sort the sound settings and rhen do an audio special episode!!! Nobody talks car audio in car reviews, sadly.

[@andrewcameron1050]

The Alpina is a great choice for your day Sam, maybe the 3 series based touring would be better though. Or BMW X5 hybrid like Harry metcalf ran for a while.

[@patrickchard4519]

Tony's comments about Tesla building poor quality automobiles is well documented. JD Power most recently gave Tesla an unofficial rating of 231 in initial quality based on owner feedback (this number represented an improvement of 19 points from the previous year). The industry average is 162. Of note, Audi and VW also got poor scores. Tesla's number is unofficial because the company won't allow JD Power to survey customers in all states in the US. Tesla's battery and power pack engineering is legendary. But, there manufacturing, fit and finish, and repair support are poor.

[@b8yep959]

New shape F pace SVR? won’t need an F type with one of those so it’s 2 birds with one stone. You can then spend that money on another car i.e GT3 touring etc

[@BakersTaste]

An Alpine would be so freaking cool. YES Sam.

[@christophermoore5843]

In my opinion having an Aston Martin SUV, is like having Ferrari saying they're going to have an SUV. It's silly to me and it goes against the brand's character or racey GTs or luxury sports/supercars...

[@francoisg3500]

Lunch time entertainment sorted! Keep up the the great content Sam and Tony. 👌🏻

[@scottthomson9813]

Sam, you should look at Genesis. Newly arrived to the UK. The GV80 is a fantastic SUV and also the G70 shooting brake is worth a look.

[@mikewallace1723]

Agree with Tony about GLE 53. Side to side rocking on local roads was awful!

[@marijnkramer6897]

This podcast is pure gold!! Love those guys!!

[@Coronerlex]

Mclaren came out and flat out denied the Audi purchase almost immediately.

[@MarcSob22]

The 812 Competizione is absolutely perfect!!

[@radeon08]

I own a 997.1 4S (I liked the widebody). I'm with Sam with the non GT Cars being a bit boring. I had a 981 Cayman before and I think the 997 (possibly the 991.1) are the last 911's that are fun even in the base and S models. The cayman was a very fun car. After the 997, the 911 was no longer Porsche's sports car. It's the Cayman. I think over the years, they've been pushing the Cayman into the void that the 911 has left. The GT4 RS is interesting because it's probably going to be their most exciting car ever, I do feel like they're really going to struggle to convince people to pay an extra 40k for a GT3 RS when the GT4 RS is probably going to to tick everything that audience wants. When the non GT cars went turbo charged, they lost their character. Even the turbo itself is touted to be boring. If you want a fast 0-60, honestly, get a electric car.

[@speedsocketaustralia]

Sounds to me Sam like you are after more of a “visceral” experience when driving a car. Something a bit more deep and and engaging with all your senses then how it will “turn in” on a corner or if it has a bigger boot than the competition. That’s exactly like me!

[@CharlieBeveridge]

If that was the case, he would get a Macan or Stelvio. Sam is all about "image" these days.

[@bsnyd10]

IMO: Used Panamera, used Bentley Cont. GT, Porsche Cayenne, BMW X5, Defender 90.

[@robbsaunders8442]

I'm still nursing the hangover after playing Tony 'In general' drinking game!

[@freddiejones4598]

Why do you have this persistent hate for McLaren. They are years ahead of Ferrari and lambo. They are British and sorted out there reliability issues years ago. Look what they have achieved in the last ten years. They didn’t even produce road cars when the Ferrari 458 was released…and look where they are now

[@brianiswrong]

At least they both put their money were their mouths are and bought one each. This alone gives there argument some backbone. But I agree,they do just brush them off in a " unreliable " comment.

[@brettripley2264]

Tony is correct with Tesla. The build quality is terrible and Lord help you if it ever breaks or gets in an accident. Very little support for the cars. watch Rich Rebuilds for more insight

[@brianiswrong]

Assuming the Aston that Tony drove down to London and back,is on trade plates (as it's a stock car so won't be registered to an owner) Is that actually allowed (I thought a car on trade plates could only be used for test drives and going to / from the collection, handover / to and from a garage appointment.

[@benpenagonzales6014]

My wife drove a 5 series after passing her test! Yes to the alpina. BMW tech is just literally the best and you’d do well to keep the x3!

[@lucylow9926]

Love the chat Tony and Sam. always a good listen guys.

[@mtnvalley9298]

The 911 gets a lion's share of 'conservative-natured' folks to a very high level of driving in the safest manner building confidence more readily than any other sports car on the market. Those folks have a lot of financial ability. That is the non GT 911s genius, and why it will always sell.

[@captain_context9991]

The best case ever of a product not living up to the hype is....... Corvette. They never come close to their hype. The new platform, the C8, advertised with times that it simply will not do. They claim it has a monstrous acceleration, the onboard computer even verifies it, but when it finally got over to Europe where they run on higher octane and the Z51 track pack, even then, it will not go below 3.6 seconds 0-60. TopGear even said realistically its closer to 4. But they claim it will do 2.8. Which is a huge difference. 2.8 is hypercar territory.

[@fit_pharmd4830]

As a car guy we place value on things most ppl don't. All we care about are looks and drivability and although the B% has both just look what happens to all Alpina products after 2 years. They fall apart and lose so much value. You do have to be somewhat sensible even as a passionate petrol head.

[@benpenagonzales6014]

Go for Tony’s X5 30d. You literally don’t need any more than that on the road. The alpina touring is a clever, clever choice I grant you. And will hold money if you DONT put miles on it. X530d will get you 40mpg on a run and is so comfy. And turbo diese is a nice way to drive on uk roads. RWD based chasis FYI.

[@alexkasselakis]

A very informative and enjoyable podcast. Very nice work guys!

[@benpenagonzales6014]

I ve had many cars. To live with, the X5 with the tech, the split tail gate, the comfort. Just the bomb. Do like the Alpina touring idea though.

[@alfaman418]

You are a natural communicator Sam, I love the content