Being Liked is Not Enough, Fe Inferior! | CS Joseph Responds

[@TheLooselois]

I’m INTP. Ive learnt that I need to take care of myself and not expect others to do it instead. It’s taken 36 years to learn this 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@johannklassen862]

You got this.❤

[@akazicool87]

Same here

[@zebakhawaja]

You can't be INTP

[@zebakhawaja]

A real INTP does everything for themselves and others, and its mostly favours.

[@soapmode]

It's a good exercise for INTPs to keep the question, "What does this person want?" to the forefront of their minds when engaging with someone beyond social niceties.

[@SpeedUpThatComputer]

Basically using Ne parent.

[@abadi173]

this saddens me alot, i really do like my INTP friend a lot. they might not look it but they truly are one the most caring types i have ever came across, you just need to understand them and then they shine, they have that pure heart behind that stoic face/fake smiles they do and i love every bit of it.

[@knowthyself8186]

They also have the deadly sin of gluttony and eternal scoreboard of what everyone owes them and they take the perspective of nothing being fair, which is an innate bs. Every type has pros and cons. Tho yes, their Fe inferior truly is pretty pure

[@creeperkingdom3190]

@@knowthyself8186 nothing is fair it's not a prospective its just a fact

[@knowthyself8186]

@@creeperkingdom3190 it's not a fact since it's bullishit. Nothing is fair, therefore everything is fair. So everything is fair

[@creeperkingdom3190]

@@knowthyself8186 that's not how that works that assumes that everything is equally unfair which it isn't you can not say the boy born in a war term country has just as much of a disadvantage as poor person living in a first world country ir that either has as much of a disadvantage as one born in a third world country who is completly physically disabled.

[@creeperkingdom3190]

@@knowthyself8186 what your sprouting is a just world fallacy and its a fallacy for a reason. In any case nothing is going to stop life from being unfair so we just have to do the best with the life we have.

[@johnnyringo4463]

ISTP and I agree. Im good at my job, my co-workers respect my competency. Im good at being helpful. I dont lose my cool in stressful situations. But that hole I have been trying to fill is my love life. Being truly accepted by someone I can be intimate with and let down my guard.

[@christianhansen7596]

I relate alot to your comment.

[@malakashraf2801]

Tell me about it - istp .

[@CuddleClaw.]

For real. Love life.

[@nb9797]

... but then when I find it I judge them too much, as I'm always critical of myself, thanks to Lead Ti

[@JohanJohnJohnson]

It's pretty ironic that people can tell and smell the void of Fe inferior and their lack of self-acceptance. I think this is the reason why people will not try to reach out and include them cuz they don't want to be one who would carry the burden of Fe inferior, it's just too much for most people basically. People are not gonna love you unless you love yourself first.

[@anon.decoding_card]

But those are who do not deserve us.

[@JohanJohnJohnson]

@@anon.decoding_card I feel like IXTPs are the ones who are thinking they don't deserve the people they care about tho, which in reality is not true.

[@Arcadius-tr8bm]

And how am I supposed to do that?

[@tiotom9217]

Explain INFP then..

[@ninaivana1106]

I loove to see people "coping" with their inferior function successfully. My latest encounter is with an ENTJ woman, who is very moral and noble (shes working soo hard and much as a volunteer and that over a veery long period of time, perhaps even 20+ years), while still protecting her inferior function from "rude" people and telling others to f*ck off.

[@damanodrama]

I am a female INTP and I have the deepest most profound emotional response to my understanding of what truly means to live alone. I also feel gutted when I think about dying alone. Alone is all I have ever known stuck in my princess tower (my head 😅)

[@johnnyringo4463]

Yeah. As an ISTP. I make the world I imagine in my head and live there for some time night after night. Re-living the "could have beens", the different choices made and the path it may have lead down. Then its back to reality. Lol.

[@louisejoel]

We aren't alone in the universe

[@JohanJohnJohnson]

I mean we are all gonna die alone, technically. Probably, we already did thousands of times before in infinite perspective

[@emmasalix]

The mind is a lonely place but that's what makes it so beautiful.

[@johnnyringo4463]

@Johan K are you an INFJ? 🤣

[@saavyz]

“Respect is given” finally someone said it!

[@friendlyanomaly6109]

Why do people say "Respect is earned"?

[@Gadget_Witch]

@@friendlyanomaly6109 because you won’t play ball with someone who doesn’t throw it back. The ball being respect.

[@friendlyanomaly6109]

@@Gadget_Witch Some do.

[@Gadget_Witch]

@@friendlyanomaly6109 yup they do, exceptions to every rule and all that. I believe that the thing with these idioms is that they work as a general rule and it’s meant as a mental frame.

[@annayudin290]

I needed to hear this Chase. Thank you so much for posting this clip. My heart is broken for my brother who is either INTP or ISTP. His parents are narcissist and still thinks he can be accepted by them. He is only 14 though

[@anon.decoding_card]

What he needs to know is, that deceit and betrayal are anywhere.

[@waldner5206]

I've never been to therapy but that felt like therapy

[@lisafoster3494]

The self acceptance advice I really needed to hear...been way too focused on other people and their flimsy wishy washy opinions THANK YOU!!!!!

[@nwicakson]

15:23 rather than accepting that at the end, we are alone. I would rather say that at the end, we ourselves, choose our own way to live, and choose how we die. 9:08 and thank you for understanding us and teach us how to understand ourself, really you help a lot. -intp

[@sylviaowega3839]

My 2nd oldest brother always used to guilt me into giving him and his family more attention. He would often complain that I was uncaring, rude and being un-empathetic

[@josephlee529]

I really hope you can make more videos dedicated to each type's inferior function. I think it can really help people who struggle to figure out their type. Great video.

[@Moodboard39]

Could be better

[@christyb2275]

This is perhaps my favourite lecture of all time. Thank you. ~45 yr old INTP female

[@GetYossedLol]

Thank you for these lectures Chase, the amount of insight I've found on your channel is unparalleled. Being an INTP feels like a curse, a disability sometimes like there's nothing I can do about it. But then I find some answers here and it's like a ray of light at the end of the tunnel.

[@anon.decoding_card]

r/INTP

[@coldchillin8382]

I abandoned trying to be liked by people in the middle school. Realized it wasn’t working so I said fuck it and I’ve been myself ever since.

[@johannklassen862]

Well INTP's accept yourself, love yourself, and make yourself a priority. Because you are alone. And you will have confidence in being some elses support structure loner.

[@Kelgrafar]

Wow. This actually blew me away. I have a friend who I have typed as an ISTP and this applies to him so well. When he was fired from the place I work I was the only one who got in touch afterwards to see how he was doing. I remember he felt really betrayed no one else reached out, he worked really hard for us. Recognition is huge to him. We've become good friends and I can tell the friendship means a lot to him.. I'm smug and self-assured, so these extroverted feeling desires are a blind spot to me. Stuff like this really helps me understand where other people are coming from and appreciate their struggles.

[@abrahiemdash7676]

5:40 Words are enough sometimes but I will expect actions too. Not as much as ISTPs but both are important to me. Because I compare their words with their behavior and the treatment I get from them compared to the treatment they give to others

[@nicolenefonternel6389]

I do the same thing. (INTP female)

[@dalidali8631]

“Create a legacy, so that whether they like you or not, they respect you. That's what I care about, I don't care if people like me or not“. - Myron Gaines

[@SantanaBanana47]

Damn

[@Arcadius-tr8bm]

His not Fe inferior. I don't care what experience I give to others, so I have the right to tell Se inferior that they shouldn't worry about it so much? That it's not a problem. That they are stupid for feeling this way. Or that I'm enlightened because I don't have this problem?

[@sylviaowega3839]

Yes self hatred was always a major issue with me as a female INTP. Life began to turn when I stop worrying about as to whether people respected me, or not, but worrying more about tearing other; and start accepting my social awkwardness the masculine traits that I had problems accepting.

[@damanodrama]

What do you mean by masculine traits ?

[@minusstage3]

@@damanodrama I'd have to reckon, that Sylvia was simply referring to those traits, that most often and traditionally, have been known to compliment traits of the opposite gender, both biologically and historically associated with the feminine gender. 🔯☯️☸️🙏😇⚕️

[@malakashraf2801]

@@damanodrama ti is a very masculine function on it's own, then low fe isn't the most expected from women who are to nurture and care , although we do care .

[@sylviaowega3839]

@@damanodrama By masculine traits, I mean by thinking and behaving more like the way in which most of society expects the man to be. For instance, men share a lot more of my interests and hobbies than women; and also me thinking more logically. Ti heroes are also know to be predominantly males than females, which makes us so rare and very often misunderstood.

[@mrod8578]

Great comment Sylvia. I think CS Joseph citing INTP as a feminine type to be somewhat inaccurate (It is much more nuanced and the INTP personality is mostly a male cognitive line of thought). I think of it as a bit more androgynous which means women who are INTPs will come off as more masculine going against feminine norms and often selecting more masculine endeavors, while INTP men won't be seen as the stereotypical masculine archetype due to things like being unsure of themselves, social anxiety, indecision and overthinking everything. Ti is a very masculine cognitive function after all and INTPs are generally disagreeable (a highly masculine trait). However we also have those other traits that either makes an INTP woman come off as tomboyish, or an INTP man as coming off as unconfident or weak. We are kind of an enigma of traits unlike an ISFJ woman (who are amongst the most desired women in relationships and represent the stereotype of nurturing feminine traits) or an ESTP man (who represents the stereotypical masculine traits of action, confidence, leadership, aggression, dominance and at least come off as superficially attractive). INTPs are a mixed bag. If you're a woman you'll often be perceived as masculine (if they choose not to work on their feminine side) and guys will be perceived as odd where their masculine/feminine traits are difficult to pinpoint (not quite feminine but not stereotypically or historically masculine either).

[@christianhansen7596]

Really good video. Even tho I know I need to learn self acceptance, I cant stop thinking I need a partner to do so. I think I just needed to hear these words from you, so thank you.

[@malakashraf2801]

Chase is right , but no matter how much we grow , this feeling of acceptance from one special person that gets us to value ourselves since they value as , just like chase said , I don't think it'll ever go away and I kinda don't want it to , but instead of depending only on that waiting for it to be able to then move , we should make it more of a prize at the end of the line . But I really want to feel it before I die .

[@jaredvaughan1665]

Chase I listened to every video you put out on KZbin from start to finish.

[@RavinerPayne]

What happens if someone connects or uses these demons against and for themselves by instinct for years on end. Adding in a "habbit" that triggers you throughout the whole process but you work around the festering wound.

[@Given119]

INTP... 42... Learned to accept myself, even though I don't really "like" myself. So much more stable and happy!

[@colinernest3925]

Im an intp, When I was young I felt like I realized a lot of people I knew did not like me or thought I was a jackass. I'm 22 and I feel like for a long time I have gradually been coming to terms with the fact that lots of people only have their own interests in mind. In the past couple years I think I've leaned more into this understanding which has made me keep people at arms length unless I know they are worth my time. I just moved in with my best friend of about 15 years and I have had a hard time coping because I feel he's been increasingly disrespectful to me and expects me to take it, but I think I've realized that in many ways he doesn't care about me and I have since then been incredibly closed off to him and only selectively tell him information about my life. I go through my daily life feeling that I don't want to tell him a lot of what I'm thinking because I know how he'll use it against me. More often now I feel like he's angry at me for that and lashes out to make me insecure but I don't worry anymore because I know who I am and I know I will find lots of people who are worth my time and energy.

[@louisejoel]

Maybe they are no longer your best friend, maybe you just need to learn to "be your own best friend"

[@malakashraf2801]

Go buddy ! And I will do the same -istp

[@bluecollin1531]

Speak up for yourself. Don’t let him run over you. Be a vagabond with dignity rather than a sheltered man who’s a doormat.

[@00Klingon]

I sympathize because I've had similar situations as an INTP. I've learned to set boundaries and people who cross those lines get cut off. As an NP, the door is never truly slammed but I've got standards that must be met before that door is ever opened again and the impetus is on the other person, and I make those expectations as clear as possible if they ever cross the first hurdle of even inquiring into why things have changed (rare). Every time this course of action has been later vindicated. People who care will take the steps I lay out, others never really cared in the first place. This also avoids the self doubt caused by my Se trickster in thinking maybe things aren't the way I actually perceived them to be. Having standards in relationships is self care. If you don't care for yourself, don't expect anyone else to either.

[@marshclem2255]

I feel this. Almost all the people who I’ve grown close to over the years said they thought I was intimidating or mean or bitchy before they actually got to know me. It’s only those that stuck around long enough to see that wasn’t the case that actually grew to care about me and change their minds.

[@SkillOPill]

It took a lot of other people supporting and convincing me that I'm worth something before I could believe it in myself. Now I rely on my Ti to bring me back whenever I'm down. My fe does tend to help others more than myself but I'm not always self sacrificing when I do. It does make me seem more selfish but isnt it more selfish when others try to use your time for their needs all the time?

[@CSJoseph]

An empty container can't fill up anyone else.

[@natskii7026]

Thank you for this video, I think it's one of the most helpful videos I have watched on youtube, though I might forget about it next week

[@TSloanMcFarland]

Chase never disappoints ! Even though this lecture wasn’t about my type (ESFP) it all was spot on accurate to the point of feeing embarrassed bc of those traits still remaining ever so present in my mind and in my life how do ya stop the urge to wanna help bc I know it doesn’t buy other’s respect and so on but still I will give my last dollar . Gahhhhhh I swear I get on my own nerves so damn bad😏

[@sayonarapt06]

The thing about Fe inferior is extremely hard, it looks like a people pleaser from the outside perspective but when i would do things that i would never do, i knew what i was doing, but the manipulation is so much easy to manipulate someone with Fe inferior is extremely hard to control that Fe inferior, really hard, cuz Ti users are all about the logic, their own logic, for me, as an ISTP it makes "SENSE" for me with my Ti and Fe to do things for the person and being liked by others. Good to be self aware as a 17 year old

[@lauriesimonds9229]

Wonderful video!!! I've always enjoyed learning about the different mbti types, but your series has helped me really understand the cognitive functions so clearly. And even though my Fe is auxiliary (where I'm worried about everyone else's feelings) - I still sometimes struggle myself thinking I need to earn people's love/respect, etc. But f**k that demon - I love & respect myself!!! Having that integrity may not be the warmest bedfellow, but he keeps me sane & safe - and from doing stupid shit 😅 Thanks Chase ✌

[@sylviaowega3839]

For me as an INTP, it is not gluttony what caused people to not find me accepting. It is my lack of social skills and being so socially awkward. I actually was always athletic and on the attractive side, believe it, or not

[@GaryNavickas]

My intp is an addict magnet.And a narcissist/ sociopath magnet. I HATE it & my life. I’m in therapy because of it & of his poor decision making

[@mrod8578]

Yeah I was a football player and freestyle wrestler throughout middle school and high school and played football through college. My father was an ENTJ. I knew more or less how to dress from a young age as my dad and mother always had me well dressed and my father taught me all about suits as a child. I also won my regional spelling bee as a kid and was in mathletes. My ENTJ father wanted me to have all kinds of accolades (which at the time I didn't care about) and he basically forced it upon me to which I'm actually appreciative of now (rest his soul). Due to this I was always very fit and attractive and at least appeared to be superficially well rounded. Like you it is always the social side that gives me anxiety even though I've practiced it over and over again and can even come off as charismatic sometimes giving a speech to a crowd (I actually prefer a public speaking format where I can quickly leave afterwards versus having to mingle in large crowds lol! 🤣). However I can still come off as weird to an individual in everyday life as an INTP which is different from my tall, strong physical appearance (I come from a long line of giants...my dad was 6ft8 and his side of the family is very tall). I can imagine the contrast can be off putting to people. While gluttony can certainly be a problem (Americans are fatter and more "disgusting" than ever before, as CS Joseph put it, which of course INTPs can fall prey to) I ultimately think it's the personality of being an INTP that makes it difficult for people to accept. We have to constantly work on developing social skills and put ourselves out there to work on social awkwardness. It is just so easy for us to become hermits if we allow ourselves to be. The lack of acceptance and social validation of being liked only exacerbates this issue.

[@mrod8578]

@@GaryNavickas Well it is certainly a possibility INTPs can attract bad people in their lives that can negatively affect people in their lives around them. Your comment is too vague regarding your relationship to analyze it much more beyond that. I'm sorry you're in a hard place right now.

[@anon.decoding_card]

Sometimes they lie to you while hiding the real pathetic motives of their hatred. Beware of deceit, betrayal and baits.

[@asdasdasdasdasdasd3485]

Great video. Very, very helpful. Great job and keep it up.-an INTP

[@pmmoomoo]

I was typed ISFP on your web site. It does fit the bill. As a 70yr young female this Fi demon insight is hitting home. Time and circumstances do lead us to learn to care in every way for ourselves. Thanks for your insights. Cheers ftom Cork, Ireland 🇮🇪

[@CuddleClaw.]

I’m feeling emotional this morning and whenever I hear you speak about Fe Inferior and Fi Demon, it’s heavy and deep and I just want to lay in fetal position and cry. I wish someone would hold me. Dealing with these functions is constant work. I accept myself, I like myself, and in certain moments, when I’ve reached that “I don’t care anymore” state, I can be very strong and no longer care about losing that special someone and stick to a boundary. I suppose I have to learn how to be like that more often… I’m not sure I can. And then when my bf won’t give Ni Child what it wants so badly, then I have to fight off my urge to “act out.” Because I start to feel restless and stagnant and uncomfortable and I need to break free. And that’s why I cried this morning. My Ni Child has to suffer so that I can give his Si Inferior what it needs… in hopes that if I can “behave” well long enough and consistently enough (not making him feel pressured), then he will satisfy my Ni. Fuck, it’s so hard though. I appreciate you Chase ❤

[@CSJoseph]

Don’t give up. Walk the journey instead of looking for an outcome.

[@abdiqanihashi484]

❤❤❤❤❤to you

[@valentinoczerny]

Thank you Chase. Like seriously. Thank you.

[@jakeogden2072]

INTP this literally happened this last few months back I found out I like myself more than anyone else bc I can trust myself to always do my best f the rest (still love/support 3 people in my life - esfp girl - enfp mom- IXXP my son- and enjoy random acts of kindness towards strangers but expect nothing in return)

[@GaryNavickas]

Expect nothing in return; that’s pure

[@mrala]

15:18 dear Chase; I'd already learned the lesson; and I admit that getting validation from internal sources has drastically improved my life in every direction. can you point out what is the nest lesson Fi demon is going to teach in the future?

[@RaffertyMBTI]

For me, the guilt thing isn’t wanting to be liked, it is just wanting to resolve the situation as fast as possible and knowing I don’t feel as deeply (schizoid) as other people. All I want is to feel like a moral person and to resolve the situation that gives me moral vertigo as soon as possible. Fi demon not caring about myself is partly wanting to do the right thing. It is self sacrificial.

[@elisabethschlarb3059]

After 2.5 years of studying egohacking content, I recently truly discovered by type as ISTP and I've got to say...wow. This might be the best lecture I've ever watched. Thanks Chase. My Fi Angel is incredibly grateful for this and for you.

[@Butchy798]

this one hit home for me, I'm a 60 year old intp. and can relate to the "if someone values me, then I must be someone of value", that hit home. because usually, I don't really thin of myself as someone of 'value', because, what really does that mean? Can I figure things out, sure. Can I fix things, yep. But is that valuable? it depends. I've always wanted to see if someone could just plain, like or love me, no matter what. Hmmm good talk, thx

[@lisafoster3494]

As a Intp what you are saying is true been manipulated alot.... IT took an ENFJ boyfriend getting angry at others using me and confronting me about it to the point I took a stand for myself

[@sylvainhash5421]

Touché! I was moved by this video: very true and accurate; I also found there is something warm and compassionate about it (maybe it's the way you look at the camera, at us). As an INTP, that would be an understatement to say I can relate to what you're saying (or what Dr. Robert Glover is writing for that matter). But this reallty caught me: when you say to tap into our memory to find cause to value ourselves, something clicked in my mind and I got a few ideas of exercises I can start practicing now.

[@liveforyouonly]

can you share some exercises you thought of?

[@e_mcflea]

Amazing lecture. Struggling with an INTP rn that doesn't understand why I'm not accepting his help....would be nice if he was willing to help himself first.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

Awesome advice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Bozpot]

This is very interesting. So often I read comments by INTPs who claim not to care what other people think. I was half expecting this video to be echoing that claim, further making me doubt my type, but I was pleasantly surprised. This video describes exactly what Inferior Fe feels like to me as an INTP woman.

[@josiahcruz6463]

21:00 unexpectedly wholesome

[@cross-eyedmary6619]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Chase understands INTPs like no one else.

[@nataliewantscookies]

Story: As an INTJ teenager j had many people tell me they liked my smile and I should smile more. Is it normal to feel like smiling is difficult and feel triggered by that as someone with low Fe?

[@malakashraf2801]

It's probably people pressuring your fi to feel something it's not feeling

[@TaxingIsThieving]

3:43 4:39 Seem to have confused us, Fe hero is what is desperate to be liked. 5:36 Disagree, I know words can be hollow. 7:04 Triple systematic? 9:00 What is this? What is wrong with wanting to be liked? We care about the truth more than being liked. 10:19 11:00 Heartbreaking. You don't need my Ti?

[@seabeejg]

Does an INTJ have to point out the obvious truth behind your comments for 4:39 and your comment for 9:00? My INTP brother kicked an "outcast" kid in the nuts for a laugh from others and to be accepted. This is a form of Fe desperation. I slapped the shit out of him in front of everyone and told him to never do that again.

[@TaxingIsThieving]

@@seabeejg An INTP bullying an outcast, especially physically? You've got your typing wrong. And if you think Fe inferior is desperation, you should see Fe hero, Fe parent, or Fe child. I know a people pleasing ESTP and the reason it drives me nuts is because I don't care. Truly.

[@seabeejg]

@@TaxingIsThieving Wrong. I am an INTJ that has an ISTP older sister and the younger INTP brother. I know this through and through already with my mostly unpleasant, but grateful experience growing up with two Ti heroes and experiencing and observing their low Fe behaviors. But they didn't want to confront their feelings...and it has held them back thusfar...they are 41 and 35 now...it's almost programmed-sailing for them from 50 on out if they don't work on their shit asap. Also, I have Se inferior and I crave putting on a good performance, getting out in the world and doing my thing, creating art in unique and practical ways, etc. Likewise, via Fe, INTPs secretly crave emotional acceptance from others or have truly ran from their Fe fears and adopted their Ti/Si loops and judging others Fe inferior grip-wise in a pathetically immature and irrational way, satisfying their Fi demon that runs amuck. If you don't care, it means you're not parenting your demon. Stay in that arrogant Ti/Si loop that doesn't address it's own emotions, though judges others without the truth to back it up. I'm right there with you with my own loops and weaknesses, though. So I understand. But that's my point here, I'm trying to point the truth out, but Ti hero is oftentimes too reluctant to step back from it's pride. My brother is one of the smartest people I know, but he hordes his never-to-be-seen knowledge base and stifles his endless potential, and it all stems from his Fe/Fi underdevelopment. I think he tested at an IQ of 154 when he was 13. ISTJ father took him out of school in 8th grade and just let him Si child all the time....still lives there. My INTP cousin is knocking on 60 soon, still lives our granny, brags about how much money he has saved in his bank account and how responsible and resourceful he is, but has never paid rent once in his life and doesn't buy his own groceries and he is resourceful....with OTHER PEOPLE'S stuff (food, housing, etc.), same as my brother. And for the record, that act of nut kicking was the only time I ever saw him attack anyone unprovoked...it was out of character, for whatever reason. That reason was Fe-related because of his satisfied reaction to the people who laughed.

[@kuro1648]

Wanting respect is one thing, getting it is another

[@thorfox3562]

Brilliant. Thank you. 👏🏻👏🏻🙏 - this really hit home.

[@Butchy798]

Haha, maybe I should listen to the whole thing before commenting; aha!, Yes, at my age, 60, I have realized that I can be the source of my own acceptance and happiness. took a while, but finally got it. you are correct

[@TristanDmarco]

I don't like being around people, yet I crave companionship... My mind is a battlefield of scattered thoughts and ideas. I stay safe, never straying far from comfort. I believe myself to be an INFP, though I've been told that I could be an INTP.

[@zazugee]

As an intp i think Fe is what motivates the intp to have like goals that benefits humanity of others rather than being motivated by money or status. And on personal level i noticed if I'm not busy I start to think about being not liked or act weird like a negative isfj and seek people's attention or try to help ir be a mommy but fail miserably at it. But i think the real path is to not like yourself but to destroy your ego. You only reach the state of peace by silencing the ego. Be immersed into the infinite and stop being the singular.

[@watteffer]

I don't want to sound arrogant here, but I feel like I encountered my demon, slayed the dragon, early on. No doubt there is more combat ahead though. After some months/year listening to you and others, understanding functions and testing to see how they manifest in people around me... there was a moment where I was like "hold on, why am I so concerned with how others see me when everyone else is feeling the same? Everyone is worried about being judged that no one is actually judging" - at that point I consciously supressed my Fe inferior (to put it one way) and actively went and greeted people in the social situations I'm in, taking the initiative. It felt strangely powerful. I still get typical Fe inferior problems of course, but I am in much more control than before. When it comes to accepting myself, religion did that for me. I know you may not be that religious, but through studying I realise the only validation we need is from God and listening to our own conscience. And after feeling pretty confident via my studies, its another powerful thing putting the authority of scripture above the authority of any man. When religious leaders attempted to guilt trip me through their (now I see) incorrect reading of scripture. Thank you Chase

[@honor9lite1337]

I don't want to sound arrogant here, but I THINK I encountered my demon, hence slayed the God, early on, not later like many lesser INTP do.

[@annl.5512]

Can we stop type people on random comments it's ridiculous 😆

[@MsKingwa]

You found a method that works for you, congratulations 👏👏👏

[@theWarringLover]

​​@honor9lite334 Give it time. All intps go to God. I was the same way. The reason for that is the only thing that comes out after Fe is hurt is Fi demon. The idea that morals and values come from the self. However, when the energy of vengeance against the world cools down one realises that Fi Morality makes no sense to Ti hero. Hence, there must be a third anchor to Morality. More like the 'correct God'.

[@p1chler]

INTP here Self-acceptance never has been in issue for me. I cannot even imagine it, thinking about how stupid people are. I probably value myself and my capabilities too much. I wouldn't say I love my self though I do not remember having the mentioned issues. Yes, I do not care about what I feel, but I do care about pleasing my Si. My Ne+Ti also seem to help pretty well from being exploited (apparently), since most of the time it is me, seeing how people can get exploited, which I never did. Yes, I help people in big packages and solve their problems but normally this help doesn't get exessive, since people are not worthy of it most of the time. Is this so unusual? I am pretty reflected and self-observant I guess, but isn't this pretty normal for us INTPS? Please comment, fellow INTPs.

[@user-uq9oe7sc5m]

Maybe you're not an INTP.

[@ashuranero5721]

You don't sound like an INTO

[@MrFranci3000_dot_AMAROXXX]

INTP here: Don't know what I hate more: myself or the world.

[@honor9lite1337]

@@MrFranci3000_dot_AMAROXXX INTP rarely say this statement. If they don't find anything worth/interesting to discover anymore, naturally they become apathy to everything. Any Feeling = Nullified.

[@watteffer]

Self acceptance is the underlying problem which is not often acknowledged or made aware of. Why does Fe affect us so much? Ultimately, because we dont have our own source, Fi. I think many do not realise this, never even consider it, until later in life perhaps. I also think there is a level of exploitation depending on the person and their background, some INTPs can be guilt tripped more than others. Some INTPs dont even realise they have been taken advantage of, and never become aware of it. I am also reflective and relatively self observant, maybe you are more mature INTP, maybe you dont realise these things are happening to you, or maybe you are another type...

[@mmkkad]

10:30 If people, the collective, don't care about value one could bring into society, don't give respect or acceptance for it and they care only for their individual agendas - should I become a selfish psychopath ? And let those idiots rot in their own suffering built on ignorance and stupidity ? It reminds me the final scene in "Apocalypse now" when Willard sails away on the boat and decides to call airstrikes on Kurtz's village.

[@dennisjonker4804]

Accept myself and like myself. Am I allowed to do that? Does that not make my Type 5 "hide away" thing worse? And if I can do that, and all those years not knowing that and having nothing to show for it. Only to realize. I never actually had to do that anyway.. And I could have dismissed the hostile expressions of naysayers decades ago. Rather than remember it for over 25 years, and be sour over it all the time.. Wow. Ergo, the "I must prove myself to so and so for [reason[ is completely bogus and superfluous.. Time to disconnect from that bad habit and upgrade to the next level.

[@TristanDmarco]

Makes me wonder what Ti demon is like for an INFP. Anybody know?

[@darkbear3436]

Accept yourself bc we are each going to die alone!

[@mehranzarezade7958]

When you accept your loveliness you will never be lonely. I accept it and the love given by infp isfp estp entp new friends and more friends that i found everyday in fact i wanted to learn a trick from English teacher so I start conversation and get while I was given so remember life always work the opposite

[@queenofeagles]

Thank you so much, Chase!

[@EyeHeartSUSHI]

i think what gets mixed up is why we have fe inferior.. for me it's to be liked it's to be accepted as i am. i dont want to feel im like for a facade. i want to be seen as i am good or bad.. and not have to fear being taken advantage of..and most of the time i get judged for the stupidest things.. (not that i care about being judged per se) mainly not smiling.. or stupid shit like that.. we want to be accepted so that people can either befriend us or leave us alone already

[@RaffertyMBTI]

9:35 Does your lack of envy stand no matter what the ISTP has?

[@rogerbee1234567]

my advice for intps who need to get in touch with their fi is to smoke indica weed unironically

[@Moodboard39]

They need to smoke up lol

[@malakashraf2801]

No your si will get addicted , what are you saying ?

[@tysonscott2358]

Thank you man!

[@sylviaowega3839]

I know I have gotten people very angry for attempting to solve their problems. Many take it for arrogance

[@GaryNavickas]

I’m already a brainstormed; I just need to be listened to

[@akazicool87]

Same here

[@fesnelybdis513]

The INTP is called "Architect" because Fi Demon forces the personality to become its own architectural engineer.

[@boulderingbadger6179]

INTP here . Found out the hard way. Mr. Nice here snapped and committed great violence.

[@fificore]

*Ugh, being an introvert sucks! I know this because I'm one.*

[@SantanaBanana47]

I'm wondering if I'm an isfj or intp. Not sure if I am primarily pragmatic or affiliative. Also not sure if body temple is more accurate for me than heart

[@AnnieAreYouWokeEh]

I think it's a lot harder for INTPs tbh - the demands of Ni conflict with Fe. It's one thing to suggest that you need to learn self acceptance but then how do you internalise things as having meaning without having any kind of investment in other people? Relying on other people for self-worth might be unhealthy but whether you can be satisfied with the way they treat/feel about you is ultimately (or at least should theoretically be) contingent. When you throw that out (particularly if it's as a means of reconciling "the reality that we're alone") the loss of meaning that can be experienced because of that is not. The problem exists in reverse as well, as an INTP the more you lean towards fitting in, the more you have to sacrifice your integrity (and therefore self-respect) by becoming a fake BS'er. Funnily enough, I think ESFPs (Ni inferior + Fe critic) are the other type most capable of appreciating that which is weird since they're the type you'd least expect to at first glance, but hey.

[@davidpapojr8531]

not telling me anything i dont know... why my cave is nice and safe! really makes me wonder... if intp is the result of cptsd its a truama responce... whats your thoughts on that? (the child becomes emotional support for the parent) but i dont wana be attacted for saying this...

[@CRlifeisgood]

I don't think I can guilt my ISTP husband into anything. He will actually call me right on it if I try. I don't know if other people could. Other than the wife that is 😅 And one of his most notoripus phrases is "I can only rely on myself "

[@duckbacon3117]

So ISTPs and INTPs need external feelings and emotions from other people so that THEY can actually feel something... Thats rough, i honestly think Fi demon has it the worst out of every type, 2nd being Si Demon. 😮

[@knifeyonline]

other people being my source of acceptance was never enough. nobody could ever be good enough, at that, for me to be satisfied. and I punished lots of people for it 😁

[@1Trunk]

ISTP/omega male here, i can give way to guilt trip to very close friends 1 or 2 times max, anymore then that i will cut them out of my life. ( but people make it in to my close friend circle would never guilt trip me tho ). Also never care about been like, im totaly fine by myself. 10 months of covid lockown in my room dont feel uncomfortable at all LOL

[@Testfortest142]

Respect is earned to be given

[@CSJoseph]

Still false

[@Testfortest142]

@@CSJoseph You're right but more importantly I found out why I was wrong, I could have said that it was to stress the importance that self improvement can lead to earn more respect overal % wise but that's not the reason, instead In the Dutch language given translates literally to: to be given so my head found given to not sound correctly so that basically messed with my head most likely.

[@Nebur9180]

Is it an intp or fe inferior thing when you want that your relationship with a person is the most closest one of his/her. You have to be THE friend or something and not just a one friend out of 32.

[@malakashraf2801]

He usually says that about istps

[@Emily.J.]

Any suggestions on concrete ways to make istps feel special but doesn't cost money?

[@malakashraf2801]

Share about yourself and ask for advice , it's gold . If you got them to talk about their emotional intuition you got them forever - istp Are you an estj by the way ?

[@CuddleClaw.]

Give your loyalty. Put them above everyone else. Tell them why you value them, what you appreciate about them, specific examples are great… and do that regularly. Give gratitude. Recognize the good they do and point out evidence of them being a good person. Be extra gentle with Fe inferior.

[@SS-bu8ez]

Didn't you say if there was any other type you could become you'd choose ISTP?

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

Damn

[@geraldmarcano2514]

I believe he said ESTP for being the most masculine. Or maybe I'm wrong, tbh can't fully remember

[@sunsetjesus4719]

Yes he did explicitly say he'd choose to be an ISTP in many videos.

[@SS-bu8ez]

@@geraldmarcano2514 No someone asked him what type he would choose to be if he could choose in his older videos. He said ISTP.

[@user-uq9oe7sc5m]

He said he would still chose to be ENTP, only if he had to chose another would be ISTP I think.

[@keagangracie9815]

Hey Joseph! Amazing video! Was wondering if there were any new videos coming for entjs? How to cope with Fi? Or how to develop the demon function? Keep up the great work!

[@selenophiliy]

Chase! Really glad if u consider answer this. The problem on being literal to others and self-honesty (not honest enough to self, neglecting the instinct), so what such attitude of cognitive function would it be? Thx.

[@noban419]

Estp here, fully agree. Had an INTP friend from a long time ago kill himself and I used him for all I could get and I regretted it in the end

[@honor9lite1337]

INTPs rarely kill themselves, they just not interact with the world anymore and slowly going to the abyss.

[@noban419]

@@honor9lite1337 to be quite honest, I don’t give a fuck

[@jhinthevirtuoso4886]

You miss using him probably.

[@rogerbee1234567]

HAHAHAHA this is the funniest shit i’ve read here

[@rogerbee1234567]

@@supremegentleman4276 nobody is able to understand us for us and we look retarded no matter what we do or say it’s easy to convince yourself of giving up at that point but if you just wait it out your power of will comes back because you know you’re smarter than anybody you’ve ever met and that means something

[@TheFirstManticore]

As INTP, I like my FE inferior because it is so much fun. But I just had an issue with my Fi demon, and have to pay more attention to it.

[@gparticle3896]

Allow me to remind you of a fact; our virtue is attentiveness. Look, everyone has leaks. It's our job to patch up our leaks. A lot of what you said has already been stated in previous content. Personally, I took those tendencies seriously and patched up those leaks. It takes time but eventually it clicks, like anything else. When you lecture people on their faults it might be beneficial to recognize some people have done work in these areas. Otherwise it shows a leak of your own. Which would be that you're so submerged in the system you teach you deviations or progress. By deviations I mean example; Se trickster; Michael Jackson had Se trickster yet look he has dance moves and performance. Clearly it was committed to Si child and took creativity, exploration and reference. So when you put out a video saying INTPs are bad in bed it might be worth it to say; some INTPs are great in bed. Anywho, an example of listening, learning and implementing: I occasionally go on walks with an ENFP friend. Before, if he was venting his feelings about something I would suggest solutions. Now, I just listen with a different perspective. I may offer advice if solicited but generally I'm just being supportive. I learned to do this from one of your videos. Likewise people venting their thoughts and feelings via cynicism generally want them validated. It can be annoying if someone is very cynical for this reason. So yeah we learn. Try, fail, then get it right. You mentioned being taken advantage of, then recognizing when it's too late. That was me before, now, good luck because I'll snipe that out in the early stages. So we do lighten our leaks. Perhaps more than you could imagine. Here is some leaks you might want to fix: What's one thing people love about Mr. Breast (yes an INTP. U know you secretly envy us), the B.S. is edited out. You deliver your content fine. Sometimes it's worth it to edit out a few minutes of the wind blowing it whatever, getting your set right. It doesn't bother me too much personally but it makes it more palatable on a larger scale. Stop stating loose theoretical theories as truths. Example: Parents not being the same type as their children. Is that true? How do you know this? Is it based on a sample size of your life experience? Or perhaps you and people you know that know how to type? Well, although that is something, it's not a large enough sample size to state it as fact. This theory is more likely to be tested if it's not stated as fact, but theory, rather. Likewise, there could be other variables taboot. Do larger family/tribe sizes or structures affect the likelihood of having the same type. If so, is that an epigenetic phenomenon?

[@Dani-je3fr]

Also my question is how can you replace a cognitive attitude if by nature it’s set?

[@friendlyanomaly6109]

You don't wanna know. Trust me. Lol.

[@Dani-je3fr]

@@friendlyanomaly6109 super helpful and informative thanks man

[@Arcadius-tr8bm]

​​​@@Dani-je3frWe're screwed in life but they keep saying it could be worse. I would like to know, it can't get any worse

[@willyandfruit]

I love how you said, "what are INTPs looking for? Discovery." It made me feel like a space probe gently projecting and rotating across the galaxy beeping and blinking red lights

[@abdiqanihashi484]

Quite detailed You have a vivid imagination

[@calture5086]

@ Chase I disagree w/ your statement regading 'nice words' being enough for INTP's to feel accepted. Ti Hero is smart enough to know that actions speak louder than words. Not one for words/compliments; your words & actions have to align and be congruent. If not, kick rocks, fam!

[@Arcadius-tr8bm]

Most INTPs probably couldn't even count on fake kind words

[@bmchristie98]

The INFP superego in the ISTP - is its deadly sin Envy?

[@malakashraf2801]

Sloth

[@bmchristie98]

@@malakashraf2801 But it's also influenced by the Heart Temple therefore Envy based on ESFP superego being influenced by Mind Temple/Pride

[@dookhynabeelah4897]

100% Agree. I've known 1 INTP like that

[@officialsilverbusiness613]

This video confirmed that I'm an INTP instead of an INFP. I'm actually very sensitive on the inside but I don't let anyone see the real me because I'm afraid of ending up all alone if I show the world my real self, which I suppose has always been Fe inferior at work.

[@MA-2020]

Yeah, that sounds like Fe inferior. Fi dom also has that "not wanting anyone to see the real (vulnerable) me", but that is because it's such a private (almost sacred) thing to us. I used to be unsure whether I'm INFP or INTP. What sealed the deal for me is I struggle with structure (Te inferior). That's when I'm sure, I'm an INFP. I wonder do you know your enneagram?

[@Gadget_Witch]

Some are serville? I say we get pounded down into that state

[@sunsetjesus4719]

To those people that say - you need to improve yourself, decipline yourself and do this, do that bla bla, my question to them is for fking whom? If you don't have anyone close to you does your self improvement have any value ? Because you improve for your loved ones not for you.

[@ashuranero5721]

I mainly improve myself for myself

[@sunsetjesus4719]

@@ashuranero5721 I give others that advice but I know inside there's no point in that lmao

[@ashuranero5721]

@@sunsetjesus4719 Are you an Fe user?

[@sunsetjesus4719]

@@ashuranero5721 i guess. Not confirmed 100%

[@ashuranero5721]

@@sunsetjesus4719 You won't improve for yourself ut others, yes you are an Fe user for sure. I am an Fi user and have no issue with self improving myself

[@Dani-je3fr]

So if Fe isn’t to get Fi to accept them then what is Fe for? I thought Fi was the source function that Fe was trying to eat?

[@creeperkingdom3190]

hes basically saying that eventually "you" need to be your own source of fi because as a fe inferior you'll never truly be able to make other people fi happy especially not enough that your fe will actually be satisfied.

[@Dani-je3fr]

@@creeperkingdom3190 so then you wouldn’t be able to develop your subconscious? So wouldn’t that apply to all subconscious developments for all the types?

[@creeperkingdom3190]

@@Dani-je3fr I'm pretty sure you can do both one will just be more dominate but if you can't you'll just have to choose between being subconscious focused beimntelativly happier while being able to actually use effectively to some extent while being a formate. or being shadow focused being more productive and sociopathic but also not being as insecure or a dormat

[@Dani-je3fr]

@@creeperkingdom3190 why sociopathic?

[@creeperkingdom3190]

@@Dani-je3fr most shadow focus intps due to fi demon and the neglect of fe infinite don't lose empathy entirely but they get a sort of if I need to sacrifice someone for a greater cuase then so be it sort of attitude which from the outside looks very sociopathic.

[@shyGigi]

Pretty good. Root source of acceptance is off though, so Fe will try to follow this and eventually the memories of self improvement will dull and fade in their power to help anyone. How many days can someone draw a hit of confidence from comparing with one’s past when the future reality keeps presenting abuses and failures along with growth? That cope, albeit a clever one, can’t be all… and why would we try to learn to grow to be anything all, pouring into the hope of an ego nation, if it all comes down to a helpless void of being alone forever? Not encouraging… these messages bring death when people won’t find permanent acceptance through them. how about this: personal sovereignty and acceptance emanates from God‘s secure sovereignty and acceptance. How do we know God’s Personal sovereignty is the security that will never leave us if we trust Him? when Job asked for validation against the judgments of his friends and his wife and the reality of his situation that caused him to appear to be a failure… God revealed that He is the only one with the power to keep the levethian in chains and eventually will deliver him to death. That same beast uses the forces of the mind soul body and heart temple. But God dominates His every move for His own good plan, A plan that involves us if we trust Him. That’s the kind of security that gives real hope. that Someone designed a Way through death that lasts, and we can possess it through trust, never to leave or forsake. because of his trust, Job is now the example for all of mankind. all of his pain and then all of his redemption stands as an example that we can rely on God alone To work everything for His good and our good. and this is also your purpose if you choose to trust. and beyond death is life empowered in the present by design full of exacting purpose through the knowledge of God. The knowledge that Somebody cares and we can realize the depth of how much someone prepared a way for us, even by creating us to participate if we choose to accept Him. then we can stand approved. Sadly, if we don’t practice acceptance of Him Especially in welcoming God to work within the fibers within our temples, we will never be accepted. that person will truly be alone.

[@lauriesimonds9229]

Wow - intense, but true. When I'm struggling with some occurrence, or facet within myself - I remember Job 13:15 "Thou He slay me, yet will I trust Him."

[@queenofeagles]

Amen!! He made us and created us this way because we are needed and fully accepted by Him. He is not afraid to be in full identification with us--the more exacting parts of His body.

[@malakashraf2801]

Seriously, validation, that's it ! 😂 that's so not cool . Yeah , indeed love is not earned .

[@aplethoraofme2056]

My INTP has a terrible habit of not listening either due to not being interested in what I am talking about or having zero idea of entertaining my thoughts. I do wish more INTP’s knew about seduction so they wouldn’t be so fucking boring to talk with. Anti-seducers are the worst because they still haven’t grown out of their own ego. Ugh!

[@creeperkingdom3190]

as an intp myself first off i come off as disintrested all of the time I am actually paying attention to everything that you say weather I want to or not because si child is constantly documented Information weather i want it to or not and fe inferior feels guilty whenever i don't pay attention. watch the virtue and vice episodes attentiveness is literally the biggest strength and biggest weakness of an intp. more to the point intp make good conversation regardless of their development level because of ne parent. If he doesn't want tp talk to you its either because his extremely tired all of the time. the conversation you are trying to have with him arent mentally stimulating( we don't care who did what at work or about what the latest media sentaion is doing) Or because he has realized that he has to walk on egg shells when talking to you because you tend to get offended really quickly(in other words your and fi user because all fi users o this to some extent yet all of them claim to not get offended easily)

[@aplethoraofme2056]

@@creeperkingdom3190 I like to talk with him about everything but lately it’s been like pulling teeth. I’ll bring up topics related to philosophy. Just last night I brought the idea of altruism vs objectivism. We couldn’t get into much only due to him stating that he never read Ayn Rand. I tried explaining it to him but I think it went over his head. I am very abstract in thought but he couldn’t follow. Anywho, It’s just something I’ve been observing from this creature! If most INTP’s felt good about themselves they wouldn’t be INTP’s. It’s just so sad that they are susceptible to manipulation by others especially those they love or those who love them. Do they do it out of self interest or do they do it out of love? Who knows. I know everything I do is out of love or at least try to. Ive been raised to be benevolent in action and thought. Whether this has anything to do with it or not. I don’t know…

[@CSJoseph]

Look at you, playing it safe

[@aplethoraofme2056]

Being seductive is so much fun! It’s not so much as play games as it is as HAVING fun for the sake of having fun! I don’t mean harm in it. It’s just what it is. If people knew more about seduction I think we would live entertaining lives. Instead of seeking entertainment we will be the entertainment. Just my two cents.

[@aplethoraofme2056]

@@CSJoseph bahahaha! Who? Me?