Being Two Payment Shy

[@dawnrobidoux3552]

I LOVE these interesting cases that aren't dog attacks or landlord disputes.. love all The People's Court, but its nice to have some case subject diversity.

[@kumaniricks6500]

Right soooo tired of dogie dilemma

[@deannapeterson3615]

@@kumaniricks6500 😂😂 right

[@VashtiPerry]

Yes. Agreed

[@Queenie_78]

Anything but sad pet cases!! 👍 💯

[@kitaboo2245]

Omg I love the doggie drama lol

[@rckkeller9437]

My entire career was retail and I want to say the defendant is extremely naive to think she could figure out how to run a retail store in a year. Or even 5 years. It’s hard. You have to continually hire and develop staff, watch the turn on your purchases and be prepared to mark down what’s not selling and try to reorder what is selling well, and always be prepping for two seasons out. Always keep an eye on your payroll, that will be your biggest expense. First thing the defendant should fire Stacey. She isn’t helping the situation.

[@elliesmith4562]

Lol

[@georgebenevides]

@Natural_Born_Writer If she doesnt know how to operate the store. accounting alone is out of her league.

[@globe2555]

Too late to repair the friendship, IF it was a friendship.

[@georgebenevides]

@@globe2555 I dont think there was a friendship. Plaintiff was helping out how to use the cash register, etc etc. Nothing thats going to affect the Plaintiffs other stores. Defendant should have rented and test the waters. Defendant thought everything was going to be roses until she owned it and find out roses have thorns.

[@globe2555]

@@georgebenevides Yes, but young people nowadays don't hesitate to harm another person, mentally or physically, and that's sad.

[@jpharleyd9325]

When you buy a business, you should know everything about running that business before purchasing it. Marketing, merchandise and labor costs are a huge part of that. You don't just open the door and expect customers to waltz in. When the defendant said she 'trusted' the plaintiff, it showed her inexperience. You trust no one in business, especially a potential competitor.

[@georgebenevides]

I am not sure how close the plaintiffs boutiques are. Defendant should have had a clause that will not allow Plaintiff to open up a store within a certain amount of miles. Back round check is a mandatory check. Defendant enjoyed traveling with Plaintiff than knowing how to operate her store. I knew Plaintiff was going to send e-mails to her customers informing them of the plaintiffs new store.

[@payableondeath9091]

@@georgebenevides Defendant's insane to expect the Plantiff to merchandise the retail line for months in advance that's not her job she just sold you the business she needs to invest in her own buyer 🤣

[@Fribee83]

It was insane that this woman had no business experience but wanted to run one. Of course it was going to struggle. You can only be guided so much before you have to do the work yourself.

[@greenenergysolutionsteam]

Not true. We've bought 12 profitable, cashflowing businesses in the last year. You shouldn't buy it if you are expected to run it. We only buy 3+ years old, and Financials are great. She bought a mom & pop which we would never buy

[@trekgirl65]

@jpharleyd and paying the rent when it is due on commercial property.

[@yelayu8457]

Ooh baby! This is some good suburban wine-mom family-heiress “let’s buy a store” drama! That dang Stacy! 😂

[@christinefaulk6531]

Right! Lol

[@CharisToTheWheeler]

Exactly

[@humanfairy]

It really is

[@deemcgriff4196]

😂😂😂😂

[@Laura-tp8wz]

The defendent seems to be in victim mode and Stacy seems to like the drama……

[@markmaurer4597]

Stacys a little liar

[@oldageisdumb]

Oh Stacy loooooooooooooooooves the drama. Stacy hasn’t made it past high school.

[@lynne709]

I believe the plaintiff when she said that the defendant was perfectly satisfied with their business relationship until Stacy got involved. The defendant’s business is probably failing and it looks like Stacy has convinced her that it’s all the plaintiff’s fault.

[@DanceArchives24]

I believe that too. Stacey is a trouble maker.

[@Ms_O]

Oh Stacy. she will stab you in the back someday too

[@kristic4472]

failing businesses sell for pennies on the dollar, discourage defendant, bad mouth plaintiff, defendant gives up and offers to sell to Stacy, being the great friend she is, and bam, Stacy has her own business for next to nothing, and the store recovers and starts making profits.

[@marleonetti7]

@@kristic4472 could be , good theory .

[@trekgirl65]

Stacy was getting even to her boss since boss(plaintiff) fired her. Disgruntled former employee.

[@keishalebray1996]

Stacey is gaslighting tf out of the defendant 😂😂😂 if she didn’t quit, she definitely would’ve gotten fired.

[@patriciaesqueda8933]

The defend it did not do her due diligence prior to purchasing the store. She hast to take some responsibility. And stop listening to Stacy! Stacy is not your friend.

[@famiandiaz5552]

* Defendant

[@Queenie_78]

*has to

[@shirleywiese5230]

Agree. Stacey needs to go

[@lifewithdeedee3392]

You can't make people buy from your store, that's the risk you take when you buy a business

[@TheUltimateRare]

i mean you could trap them in the store, it just wouldn't be legal. 🙃

[@CNae03]

Exactly, If you're paying 70k for a business, she should have done her background work : so she knew exactly what she was dealing with , and also there should have been a lawyer involved so everything would be clearly understood on a legal and practical basis 🙂

[@jamesbernardino4264]

When the defendant said hold on I just want to finish and then later said no these are the two pages I need you to look at to judge milian I was like oooooh you in danger girl!!!!

[@lashundavis156]

I'm surprised the judge didn't say anything when the defendant said I just want to finish

[@Queenie_78]

Wow that was pretty shocking. She usually says something.

[@karlamarx5954]

SAME!!

[@topreviews244]

Same shes very selective

[@Queenie_78]

@Msleelee S She usually says that yes or no I’m the judge You’ll finish when I say lol

[@marciadaniel781]

Couldn't happen to judy

[@imjustsaying6712]

You buy a successful business and what?...you think that success should automatically run for you?...😂😂😂

[@Alesana907]

So this was her dream but she didn't bother to learn a single thing on her own?

[@JanieBgrand]

IKR!!! Oblivious

[@KaiCluster]

I have a dream to go into space. It doesn't mean I'll pursue it by learning how to be an astronaut. But if an opportunity would arise for me to do so, I'd still grab it. I'm sure that both of you, as well as every single human being on this earth has dreams that they don't want to pursue but would still grab the opportunity - especailly if it would present itself as easily obtainable.

[@Alesana907]

@@KaiCluster I'm a physician...wanted to be one since I was 8 years old. Every chance I had I researched and learned about various things relating to science and being a doctor. My mom saw my passion and by 10 I had CD roms of the human anatomy and illnesses. So please dont try to talk to me about dreams.

[@Alesana907]

@@KaiCluster so you're telling me you wanted to go to space but didnt bother to learn a single thing about astrology?? That was my point. She thought clothes were cute and figured she could own a store.

[@KaiCluster]

@@Alesana907 astronomy, not astrology... And no, learning about astronomy while the wish is going to space is the same as learning about clothes brands while wanting to run a clothing store. You learn about some things, which might be somehow related but far from essential. It's fine if you don't get it. Just try to understand, that there are many people who live differently than you and that doesn't mean that neither you or them are scatchy. It simply means that we are all different and most definitelly flawed in our own unique ways.

[@Lirin21]

Stacy gonna bankrupt the place.

[@mscstarz7151]

I wouldn’t have taken that deal because those workers could have been telling her anything and stealing behind her back.

[@KPbouj]

And she’s probably paying them more than what the plaintiff was because “their her friends” 😂they double dipping.

[@cutecatthy97]

Stacy tryna stash up to buy out that store

[@kayjay7533]

Honestly she must’ve lied about the emails. I feel like that’s too easy to prove! Even if you forgot to print it out, it’s in your emails so pull out your phone and login! Especially over 5000. Pay that money girl ! 😂🙄

[@j3pelfrey]

Right? What business owner does not back up all their emails. Even if this case took place before the cloud CD's and floppy disks were a thing.

[@cbro2807]

The defendant is immature to think that her drama is going to be proof lol

[@olderandwiser5916]

As ate-up as some of these arguments from both sides came across (to me), I was totally eating up the plaintiff's remarks at the end regarding Stacy. "I think Stacy always wanted to be a store owner." That comment should have been beaten into the defendant's head until it worked it's way to the center of her head (brain-if applicable). That made so much sense, it really hurt me for the defendant. I wonder if Stacy is a store owner yet?????

[@Klw2010]

How do some people not have their emails.. I understand texts cause maybe new phone.. but why would you delete emails? Business emails no less!

[@merrymaid2890]

I think the emails showed that she definitely got help. That is why she could not show them. They would not support her case.

[@Klw2010]

@@merrymaid2890 exactly what I'm thinking.

[@LeolaGlamour]

She should have kept proof, it’s not that hard.

[@Ongelique]

right. how do you not have emails? they're on a server, or cloud or whatever

[@xzgun100]

She doesn't have any proof obviously

[@toriackley8402]

So true in every way!

[@David-re5kt]

The “proof” was likely in favor of the plaintiff. I have emails from 2002 so there’s no way she just lost last years emails on accident.

[@LeolaGlamour]

@@David-re5kt agreed

[@sparkly3tchr]

Stacey: Am I the drama? Yes Stacey- you are the drama

[@deemcgriff4196]

😆😆😆😆

[@thomasskodzinsky3255]

They said they don't want the names of the boutique to be on national television but the defendant said it was because of the name change of her store, customers, creditors and vendors didn't like the name change so they don't shop there anymore, credit won't be extended and merchandise won't be left there without 100% deposit. Welp, how can we be the judge of that if we don't know the name of the boutique? 🧐🤔 To the defendant: if you are reading this: Fire Stacey.

[@mrshappilymarried1]

Yeah..Stacey is trouble for sure😁😄

[@Klw2010]

I thought she was saying that she was having trouble with creditors and venders because the name of the store was associated with the plaintiff who apparently had credit issues and all that and she wanted to change the name to something different. Cause when she complained about that, the judge asked her why she just didn't change the name and defendant said she eventually did or was going to. I could be wrong. I didn't go back to watch it and make sure lol

[@raaawkstaaar]

@@Klw2010 you are correct in your thinking, I don't know what show Thomas Skodzinsky was watching! LOL

[@vicO1323]

Her dream turned into a nightmare because she has no prior business knowledge or of the clothing business. Maybe work at a store for 5 years and work into management, then make it your dream to own a store. How did she manage to keep the store going for 10 months?

[@lauraanne5175]

Yup. Such BS. I have a certificate in Life Coaching . I mentored under a doctor (in a field I specialize in)for a year, have been building my business for over a decade. Some young inexperienced member of my family, got an online certificate and decided she wanted to be a LC (Never even been to therapy or had her own LC), she charges 3X what I do bc in her mind all she needed was that certificate (Not actual applicable experience). Point being is many many people have no idea how hard it is to actually own your own business and be long term successful. Finding the sweet spot on how much to charge, insurance, taxes, marketing etc. I feel they are too stupid to even be embraced. Also my family member went back to her old job after a month bc no one would buy her coaching packages.

[@arbjful]

And she got towed around by a more experienced worker, who probably has high ambitions of owning a store. This sort of a thing happens when you dont know the ropes of the business

[@sococomfort22s34]

Yea the whole life coach thing sounds like a scam to me. Someone i knew growing up Is a life coach and her personal life is unstable to say the least. Not saying all these coaches are bad but a lot are

[@chojnackibaby4014]

Stacy is trouble

[@haiiiiii11]

Definitely!

[@leemsdoublek8171]

Amen. She was the common problem

[@NubianP6]

Stacy got ALL the tea…with her messy self! 🤣🤣🤣

[@lolamaude3449]

It is obvious, once she sold her business, that same business became her competition. I believe she was pushing off merchandise she did not want. I also suspect, if the defendant would have had a CPA evaluate the value of business, one would fine the purchase price was to much.

[@kennethbaker5223]

You don't know that. lol

[@BellowAveragePlayer]

@@kennethbaker5223 Right? What an absurd assumption based purely on speculation

[@lilo4399]

This is my career path. I have the same suspicion.

[@riggamorrischan]

@@BellowAveragePlayer I don’t think it’s all that absurd. The plaintiff stated she’s a businesswoman and sometimes that’s how business is done. She probably gave her out-of-season merchandise knowing it wouldn’t sell, and kept whatever merchandise was in season so clients kept coming to her business and not the defendants. She sold a business (made a profit) and simultaneously advanced her other business. It is smart, not gonna lie lol

[@איתןשי]

@@riggamorrischan if the plaintiff is such a "businesswoman", she would have taken her claim to a larger court and not given up $15,000 right off the bat

[@martinboyle9163]

Why should someone who sells you a business be responsible for making you succeed? It's about WORK.

[@barbarapaton4005]

Why did the defendant buy a business and was clueless about running a business? Doesn’t make sense.

[@JloveLamar]

Money to burn, clearly. Her down payment was 70K.

[@Channel-JJ]

because she's clueless

[@looknbakatu]

she obviously has money to throw around & away!🤨

[@lauraanne5175]

#WhiteLadyMentality

[@barbarapaton4005]

@@lauraanne5175 whether one is white/black/ red I believe that WOMEN of all ethnicity and color need to get INTELLIGENT.

[@ladyempire5921]

Invested all that money into a business she knew Nothing about and they cry " I had to have ppl teach me" Duh!!! The privilege of some folk😩

[@citytrees1752]

The plaintiff wrote in the contract that she would mentor her and she 'would not be alone'.

[@dellahicks7231]

"You've asked us not to mention" (The name of her boutique) Which the witness for the defendant mentions anyway! 🤨 Clearly the defendant hadn't a clue what she was getting herself into. She had no concept of retail, if she didn't know going into the shop in August, meant she needed to get her fall merchandise on the racks asap. The plaintiff sold the business, but then treated it like the competition, which is why she had issues with Stacy, and then wouldn't mentor the defendant.

[@broodhunter2]

bored housewife has hubby buy her a store. Of course, she knows nothing about being an owner or anything about the industry....doesn't bother to learn, listen to Miss Machiavelli there, who I would bet is a trouble maker in both businesses..... Gee, what could go wrong?

[@droolalot5795]

Where are the emails? I never delete emails. Suspicious all of THOSE emails disappeared.

[@GummyBearWA]

"It was always my dream to own a boutique." but I know absolutely nothing about retail or business management. I just wanna know if it was daddy's or husbands money that bought the business.

[@davemathews7890]

Actually, both women are insufferable. Why bring so much emotion into a business relationship?

[@campturtle]

@@davemathews7890 you answered your own question….women

[@alyssakaye9329]

@@davemathews7890 I really don’t think the plaintiff was like that. She was pretty much to the point and had her ducks in a row. She wanted her money she was owed. The two emotional, insufferable people were the defendant & Stacy in my opinion.

[@terrence2309]

Very nasty remark none of your business how she got the money

[@davemathews7890]

@@alyssakaye9329 Did you see the interview at the end of the clip where the plaintiff blamed it all on Stacey? - "Stacey is not a nice person." You're right that the plaintiff was more in control than the other two, but she got her digs in at the end LOL.

[@TheAray6]

It would be an interesting plot twist if Stacey was sent by the plaintiff to further sabotage the defendant’s business. 🤔

[@Ms_O]

I can picture that movie now 😀

[@jasminepitts3979]

@@Ms_O Surely on the Lifetime Network LOL

[@secretlyamazing]

Aww man that last sentence of their contract is so vague. I feel for her.

[@LeeoGoneWild]

Even if it was clear and detailed, it wouldn’t have helped her. She needed to take a business class 101 first. She didn’t even know how to use a register…. I can’t

[@arianefr78]

Stacey is a snake in the grass and when she turns on her new boss Lisa, then Lisa will realise what a fool she was for stealing her from the plaintiff...

[@trekgirl65]

Sounds like Stacy had problems working during the day period. Claimed it was her husband that wanted her to stop working, lied about that. Then decided to work for the competition. Happens all the time.

[@sonquatsch8585]

uh oh karens suing karens....this is gunna be good.

[@layahYasharahla]

She’d be better off running an Instagram boutique from out her home . Brick and mortar unfortunately will be a thing of the past . Also before you purchase something , you have to ask yourself (and them ) why are they selling it to begin with ? She really needed more education on the matter .

[@baboytablo5735]

why buy a business when you know nothing about it? just because you have a client list does not mean the client will be your "client"

[@davemathews7890]

This seems like a Real Businesswomen of Beverly Hills episode. They're not arguing so much over a professional relationship as about not liking each other's personalities.

[@xzgun100]

Just one of them. The other has proof and want the money.

[@davemathews7890]

@@xzgun100 I was just struck at the virulent dislike the two seemed to have for one another. Sounded more like a soap opera than a business conflict.

[@lalamakeuprehab]

The defendant isn’t the brightest! Lol reminds me of a little kid that didn’t get what they wanted!

[@MelissaRae1975]

Stacy looks like trouble. I feel like things may have been good as the seller looks like a real bussiness woman and the buyer looks so easily swayed.

[@jillthomas4926]

I would watch out for Stacy! 😂

[@w.p8960]

I don’t have to pay. She was mean.

[@Childfree334]

Exactly

[@spacecase8791]

😂

[@sandwichman100]

when they walked in i'm thinking 'mean girls' then the stacey story comes out, hmmm, trouble maker! of course when the fit hits the shan stacey walks away with clean hands

[@jocolli]

The plaintiff was prepared. She shouldn’t have to hold the new owners hand. You want to own a business, RESEARCH before making the investment! Laura had EVERY right to be pissed about her employee moonlighting and leaving her short staffed. STACY OWNS NOTHING, and sounds like the one egging the new owner on to not pay! The judge got it right here!

[@iamnotu79]

Defendant is immature. Plain and simple.

[@Shanshanmoon]

Stacy enjoying every bit of this

[@24blunt]

learn about business b4 you jump into it, and dont let outsiders get in your business

[@davital.washington7416]

Running a full fledged business with no experience! Seriously! No no no.

[@MIGDALIAGILTECHNFITNESS]

Plaintiff rolling her eyes. She sold a store with bad reviews . The defendant need to do her homework . Credit report & selling store ??? Bad mouth travels fast

[@zepherscotty]

I agree with that ruling & said it before the case started. you can't define "help" into anything & the other stuff doesn't effect the fact that a contract was signed saying 12 months of payment.

[@emotionbuilder2556]

Very interesting case.

[@kristic4472]

stacy has a gripe and a vandetta thing against the plaintiff, and MAN is she standing close to defendant at the exit interview, until defendant steps aside. Stacy's the problem and is a piece of work. Maybe she's whispering in defendant ear to gain her trust, only to turn around and find a way to get that shop for herself, without having to pay for it.

[@adlifting9824]

That place is going downhill with Stacy around!

[@anarchsnark]

"Now that I've owned the store for a year, now I know what is supposed to be in the store in September!" Did the defendant not know that September would have fall merchandise?? Even I as a mere consumer with no interest in retail business know that you sell autumn merch in Sept and start bringing in winter inventory. Has the defendant NEVER gone shopping???

[@bristroyer1723]

Maaaan you know Stacy went over there and was like "girl let me tell you what this bish is doin"

[@bruthamann5697]

Ditch Stacie. Problem settled. 😎👍🏾

[@Shyyannek]

He defendants employees were in her ear feeding fuel to a fire that was not ever even there.

[@heatherwoodrow3882]

I've managed people like Stacy. They think they are everyone's friend but they just stir up trouble all the time. I had to fire this guy who was stealing and my Stacy twisted the story so bad that people blamed me because he had a kid. It was ridiculous. People like that are poisonous to a business.

[@hijabibeautiful]

The way JM said “Stacey” and gave a deep look of understanding lol

[@barbaraness4507]

That’s funny that Stacy said one of the things that the judge always says, and that’s “ she started this”.😂😂

[@stephaniehowe0973]

Didnt ever own a business. Never worked in a Boutique. Did she ever even work retail? How is this anyones fault but her own?

[@Channel-JJ]

She wears clothes so she thought "how hard could this be" 😁

[@KPbouj]

@@Channel-JJ I can’t wait to have this kind of money 😂 what an expensive hobby💅

[@marciadaniel781]

If Stacey could turn on the plaintiff so fast, hey defendant what goes around comes around

[@tracybest5790]

Yet another one -- Coming to COURT - Oh I left PROOF at home. ((face palm))

[@Giolongino1963]

They should offer facials at those fancy boutiques... I'd help them out and splatter Laura's glasses.

[@keyeviondavis9647]

Another Drama Queen Catfight, grow up, SMH 💯

[@brooklynmobley5449]

Stacey is a gremlin 🤔 her name popped up every time there was drama 🤦🏽‍♀️ Stacey needed to go like yesterday ✌🏼

[@davidellis5141]

I agree 👍 with the verdict 🔨

[@Channel-JJ]

This would have been a decent episode if the show invested in a ring, an announcer and referee.

[@AhmedOnly1]

I bet all these women are realtors now.

[@sahilk3101]

Most complicated case I’ve watched in the people’s court

[@everett-tnredsfan]

Defendant should not own a business. How do all of these people who come on here have no emails or text. Put it on a cloud.

[@marcia1248]

Probably never had them in the first place.

[@ButtonsCasey]

These two remind me of high school girls. Sheesh.

[@graduatge105]

Bravo should start Long Island Housewives and cast these women. So much drama.

[@lilo4399]

I agree! I would definitely watch. This is my career path.

[@manthony777]

ajajajajaja 😂

[@kcook8119]

She expected the business to be handed over on a silver platter and everything run smooth as silk with little effort. She was way over head. It's doomed to fail with her ignorance.

[@NellieKAdaba]

Right

[@jonnell9633]

The plaintiff did more than anyone would. Never do it again. Sell and walk away. She's ungrateful

[@CharisToTheWheeler]

Whew chile the entitlement is strong with this case.

[@irideaunicorn1620]

I come to the comments before even seeing the video. But babay I can’t wait to hear about Stacy as to what everyone is saying… but let’s watch

[@denisecatalan9833]

Stacy Stacy Stacy…. I hope she feels silly saying how Stacy was her proof basically lol

[@zhugeliange5816]

Another lesson learned.

[@cutecatthy97]

Stacy tryna stash her checks to buy out that store

[@TonyLatigo]

Why not ACTUALLY work in a retail store before putting 100K down on a business you have no clue about?

[@mississippimud7046]

Ain't that the truth , defendant is clueless.

[@TheRedlobsterguy]

You have to be very careful getting into a deal like this. Why is the person selling THIS particular store?? Because she's not making any money is most likely the answer.

[@esharenee4186]

Whew, what a hot mess. Drama, drama, drama!!

[@steveblauvelt6312]

First thing when going in business is hire an accountant to get your tax numbers and paper work in order. You do not ask the former to to show you how to do payroll, accounts do that. She should have done her home work before going into this deal. I have had 3 repair shops, It is not an easy thing.

[@lutherwhitley]

Why do people go to court and make up bullshit and lie . You can look at Stacy and see that she is a weasel and will lie .. The plaintiff did nothing wrong. She fulfilled her obligation to the defendant.

[@Sweetpea1128]

Defendant is very inexperienced and naive, and the plaintiff took advantage of her. Too bad the defendant didn’t have the emails.

[@cookiekirkland8689]

OMGOSH the defendant looks like Marley Maklin the Deaf actress and sign interpreter. This woman could be her doppelganger, a twin.

[@MitchGrooms]

How could you not trust that plaintiff.

[@staffryte951]

Plaintiff is no angel

[@M2161]

The defendant knows nothing about running a business to begin with, no idea of merchandising, marketing, or even basic accounting. She should’ve worked a deal with the plaintiff to start as a partnership, get the training needed as a manager first, and then eventually buy out the one store she wanted to purchase after things were running smoothly

[@WheresHerb]

How does this defendant open a business with absolutely no idea what she is doing. If it was a dream you'd think she would do research, study business management, etc.

[@carriegarcia4173]

The first thing the defendant cried about was a customer list and they didn't continue to buy from her. The plaintiff can not force people to continue to shop at store she sold. Why wouldn't she have emails atleast? The defendant will close her store bc she can't do anything on her own.

[@jamesfetherston1190]

Long Island accents and Jennifer Aniston hairdos galore.

[@Reina277]

How is it that before Stacy even spoke i knew exactly what her voice was going to sound like lol

[@keithkemp3008]

Damn it Stacy you did nothing to help !!!

[@andrecoleman4791]

Stacy’s got it going on 👀🤣🤣🤣

[@David-wo9un]

The defendant has it going on much more.

[@ChasRiaStJohn]

You mean Stacy’s mom

[@broodhunter2]

@@ChasRiaStJohn You stole my line, LOL

[@velvetaeon2774]

Should have ironed out exactly what 'mentoring' actually meant before the sale

[@EmoNinjaKat89]

She should have done her own inventory before signing the final papers. If she knew anything before buying a business, its better to not have any old inventory and to buy new stuff every year for the separate. If you have to pack away seasonal items your losing money, its better to just order what yiu think yiu need and order more or less the next year. But if yiu have a bunch of old stuff from the previous years then theres a reason it didnt sell and needs to be discounted.