Ben Shapiro and Piers Morgan Revisit Their Viral Gun Control Debate

[@Loffeleif]

Piers and Ben SETTLE their differences with MUTUAL RESPECT

[@empoweryou1]

Agreed, but I can't help but think that a big part of the original blowup was on Morgan's old show, His format not Ben's. I think that dust up occurred precisely how Piers wanted it to, and at least partly(if not mostly)for ratings. Same issue when he had Ted Nugent on. Now he's on Shapiro's show, Shapiro's format and it played out as Ben wanted it. Fundamentally, I just have an issue against a Brit lecturing Americans about gun rights. He's now OK with restricting knife ownership. He looks at it as the same topic. That is, in my opinion, the very definition of a nanny state. Where does it stop? I think the reason he's ok with this line of thought(and others)is he can't conceive of a scenario where a society like the US or Britain could break down to a level of chaos where guns are needed. Even when there are examples all over the world. It's short sighted and unrealistic in my view.

[@beenieweenie1986]

Ben Shapiro OWNS company that lets LIBERAL speak

[@demun6065]

Tbh, I think it was shared view on Meghan Markel that brought them together.

[@Zoowaah]

and what exactly did they settle here?

[@demun6065]

@@Zoowaah nothing was settled. But Morgan brought up your (pro 2A) Achilles-heel, which is banning full-auto weapons, and being ok with that. While being hysterical when anybody talks about restricting semi-auto... You're system already restricts what guns you can purchase, why not tailor it back up one level to deal with mass shootings, which are from assault rifles (a gun almost useless for anything else other than shooting at multiple people)?

[@arnoldlayne9469]

I'd like to take a second to appreciate that as much as Ben likes to talk, he also listens without interrupting.

[@Sparksnorthern]

I'm sure he'd say his ability to listen is what makes him so strong in debate.

[@donyoung7874]

Only to people he agrees with, other ultra-conservatives. You need to change your avatar too, I highly doubt Syd Barrett would approve of a conservative hijacking his song title.

[@patriciaflores2776]

ALWAYS has listen without interruption

[@eliparker3136]

@@donyoung7874 If you are considering Peirs Morgan "Ultra-conservative" then you don't actually understand what conservatism is. I'd encourage you to research and look into it more and seek to understand before you start trying to put people on blast.

[@the_real_MarcGyver]

he's the anti joe rogan

[@johnathanmumm4621]

Ben made a career for himself on the Piers Morgan show absolutely destroying the man and now he’s giving him a platform when nobody else will. Crazy how life goes sometimes.

[@deepg7084]

The left are doing more to push people to the right than anything the right does or says. Once they slap that R-word label on you they're essentially kicking you out of the club.

[@johnathanmumm4621]

@@deepg7084 I completely agree. When you start calling people like Piers Morgan racist the word loses absolutely all meaning.

[@uticatechclub923]

Very well said!

[@noddingbart6915]

@@deepg7084 The left this, the right that. If one side felt they're wronged, blame the other side... Look for solutions already and stop pointing fingers. Why is being the correct ones so much more important than to actually solve the problem?

[@GamingWithChf]

@@noddingbart6915 Well said.

[@iaingreig9685]

I wish Piers was like this when he was on CNN, more people might have listened.

[@JacquesduPlessis11]

Think it was being in the interview chair. Something about that makes some people a lot worse at pushing ideas. They try too hard to push the conversation, and it hurts the quality of what is being said. Whereas here Ben is doing what many good interviewers do, and letting the person explain their view, and his questions allow more explanation, not defensiveness.

[@samheath886]

If a conservative goes on CNN, nobody listens to him

[@thebatman4279]

@@JacquesduPlessis11 I think you're definitely right there. The recent Bill Maher interview confirmed that too.

[@DarkGaming-2734]

I don't think CNN would like that if Piers Morgan was like in their pervious debate.

[@LabTech41]

No, he hasn't changed: he still treats people he interviews badly, because the last one I saw was on the show where the studio is slathered with his name everywhere, and he was talking with Andrew Tate, and that was recently. The problem is that Piers is amazingly egotistical, but like an abusive person in a relationship, after he's done trying to beat you, he acts nice to the point that you forget he's not a jagoff. He's a bully and a narcissist, don't get it twisted just because he has a British accent.

[@stevenrichardma]

Shapiro became famous on Piers Morgans show and now that Morgan is getting “cancelled”, Ben is reaching out to give him a platform. Thats actually really awesome.

[@jamesbennett3791]

They’re both funded by Turning Point, so they’re both being paid to do this 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@norcal9376]

@Grandfather_Din_Racket It's fine to say you like your guns and you don't want to lose them but to say the government could murder you and you need your guns to defend yourself is very schizophrenic. If the gov really wanted to kill you, they have MUCH more fire power and means to do it so even if you did have a lot of guns, that's not going to prevent your eminent death. They have jets with bombs, drones with bombs, they have biowarfare and satellites. Do you think a machine gun is going to slow them down?

[@soarabove337]

@Grandfather_Din_Racket Ever since 0400 Zulu time, this thread has gotten weird. No idea what you’re saying... and bc another replied to your comment in a different fashion than I would have elected, I’m not sure anyone else does either? 🤷‍♂️ Ben is generally pro-gun ownership; you say he “lost” the discussion - yes, that; it clearly wasn’t a debate (and I’m not even sure how one can “lose” a courteous chat?) - but you don’t want your gov to “mur you”...? So then own guns, right? At least have a chance to fight back? Or are you saying your gov has a better opportunity to slay you simply bc of 2A?

[@jamesmorell1758]

@@norcal9376I get tired of this argument. The government doesn't want to kill you. They want to infringe on your rights to control you, invade your privacy, pass any invasive law with as little pushback as possible. For example, in places like the UK, if you hurt someone's feelings on Twitter they can come to your house and arrest you. Try that in the U.S., it'd be a death sentence for a lot of law enforcement. And even if they did want to kill us, the government has no interest in destroying their hard built infrastructure, the roads, the power systems, gas, water, and getting rid of their precious taxpayers utility to them. They can't afford to, so they try year after year to take our guns away through laws that are ever more nonsensical and restrictive. That and the military swore and oath to defend their countru from domestic enemies, so them supporting the government in slaying their people wouldn't fly. Citizens have a pretty good chance of winning a war against government. The purpose pf our second amendment is not so the government doesn't murder us, but so they don't infringe on our natural rights and quality of life.

[@norcal9376]

@@jamesmorell1758 If you read who I am replying to, their argument is literally that he doesn't want the government to murder him. This is the basis of my argument and why I replied the way I did. I would have to disagree when you say the citizens have a pretty good chance against the gov. I would say if they really came down to it, and they put their foot down and utilized the military, we wouldn't stand a chance.

[@Everson1969]

I like how civil Piers and Ben are towards each other. You can disagree but still be civil.

[@db9944]

Apparently they became friends after their original debate, which is kind of weird to think about

[@NotBnM]

@@db9944 it’s sad that this is weird (that they can still be friends and respect each other) in today’s time I was always brought up to value a different perspective but then you have our politicians vilifying the other side

[@stormmaashrooms]

he has to amp up the anger for the cnn cameras

[@db9944]

@Osamabinlaggin6n The people who preach tolerance are typically the least tolerant ones of all. It's the left wing version of "I'm not racist, but..." If you're actually tolerant, you don't need to yell it to the world, put it in bios, purchase cringey yard signs, etc. Your tolerance should speak for itself.

[@jrr___7902]

I won't be civil with anyone who wants me murdered.

[@kevinknight1924]

This is how a true debate should be. Conversation without screaming and actually listening to the other person with no interruptions. Brilliantly done ✅

[@Dante-yu5sp]

I almost cried at how refreshing and beautiful this was.. Honor, respect, decency. A gentlemanly conversation.

[@kevinknight1924]

@@Dante-yu5sp shows there is hope for us all yet. God bless Dante. May you and your family stay safe and healthy in the future

[@monkeebones5607]

Also without an audience constantly cheering and booing.

[@sorin_ea6]

Much better than the presidential debate

[@ThatVeganTeacherYouTube]

I would like to be a guest on Ben's show. I had 1.7 million followers and I was cancelled from TikTok by the "woke". I have always considered myself to be a liberal but I am very worried about what's going on right now on social media. Being cancelled for opinions is wrong - whether you like or dislike veganism is not the point. We ALL need to unite to ensure that cancel culture is put to an end.

[@VinOnline]

I am amazed that they revisited this. I thought Piers and Ben would hate each other for the rest of time, but it's great to see that they're mature enough to do this.

[@shelby3755]

They’re both grown men, you would think they’d be mature enough 😆

[@jderrickson4597]

Piers ate humble pie last time he went after Ben..now that dominance has been established both have settled into their roles.

[@LeviAckerman2k]

@@jderrickson4597 this 😩🤣💯💯

[@QarthCEO]

In his country, Piers is a conservative. He and Ben have far more in common than they have in opposition. One of those commonalities is being able to disagree and argue without holding animus.

[@VinOnline]

@@LeviAckerman2k ayoooo

[@JohnSmith-kf8mv]

What I like is we have two people, calming having a discussion, each listening to the other , each giving the other the room to put their case. No shouting, no butting in, no attacking verbally. Big thumbs up.

[@allex_]

it’s how all debates - or opinionated discussions - should be; constantly interrupting eachother/shouting/verbally attacking is a great way to lose my interest and i won’t watch. unfortunately it seems like most political debates are like that these days, which is sad.

[@mpp7010]

But I remember a few years ago Morgan getting unhinged & insulting during a gun discussion on CNN.

[@122Jeffrey]

I mean, Ben got pretty emotional at the end here. Piers had to calm him down like a child.

[@laurasanchez7105]

More like One of them talking talking the whole time and one of them listening the whole time

[@batemanx4240]

It’s sad that this even has to be complemented on.

[@jasonreyes6582]

This was refreshing to watch. They both disagreed, but they treated each other with respect and dignity. Massive difference from those years ago. Would love to see more of this.

[@flycraps2456]

Man I miss being able to do that especially here in canada

[@elliotgustafson8896]

@@flycraps2456 as a Canadian as well I miss this too.

[@jamesepler7156]

Piers has no idea what freedom is. America is the greatest country the world has ever known. Although, we are quickly looking and becoming like Europe. Stand back a little and you can see our crumbling Republic.

[@keiko3487]

This is how REAL men resolve their issues

[@dr.wolfstar1765]

They make other people their enemy and share a same villian? Neither of these men grew in this talk. They just blame others for their disagreement

[@FlowerClown]

Ben is a real man?

[@sawyerkelke3807]

@@FlowerClown yes and he’s probably the smartest one in the room choose a debate and you wouldn’t win, you can’t go up against Ben

[@keiko3487]

@@FlowerClown speaks the truth!

[@jim2386]

I thought that was with Pistols at Dawn? :)

[@briandunlap3243]

"It should be as small as possible," and also "government should control everything you own." These things don't work together

[@paj-bn8pe]

This is the calmest I've seen Piers Morgan ever talk. Leaving Good Morning Britain seems to have worked wonders for him. Great video Ben.

[@BlackDonaldTrump499]

I’m pretty sure this was from a year or two back while he was still on Good Morning Britain

[@paj-bn8pe]

@SOLLO AMAZON not a dude, and I don't really care either way. It was just an observation I made which was obviously wrong as proven by the previous comment

[@paj-bn8pe]

@Josh Metz hey girl

[@keithskoglund10]

@Josh Metz @paj1492 hey children

[@XM-qk5sh]

They left out an important issue about the drunk driving analogy. The government is not trying to outlaw your vehicles to stop drunk drivers.

[@IgnorancEnArrogance]

It feels like the older talk shows when they respected their guests and not much was scripted.

[@thetechlibrarian]

Right it’s so crazy to watch old news clips from 10/15 years ago

[@timurermolenko2013]

Nowadays, dialogues are not common. Two persons' monologues with intent to trap and smear another one. There's little genuine debate

[@cocochanel773]

Remember those days? I miss them. I wish it was the 90’s again.

[@CoolcatAMA-Pro]

It was all scripted

[@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555]

Amen!

[@steveniemyer9288]

Love these kind of debates; no screaming or hollering, no cutting off the guest for a commercial every time a point is made, no pandering to the camera/audience. Well done by both sides, bravo!

[@elteeproductions5486]

Ironic that piers regularly cut off many of his guests he disagreed with on GMB

[@Anne_Onymous]

I wonder if leftists watch vids like this and click off because there's too many facts and not enough name calling.

[@Anne_Onymous]

@Krimsen King Kind of hard to NOT see mainstream media hun. It's only crammed in our faces 24/7. And it's just a bunch of propaganda, intolerance, and hypocrisy.

[@steveymoon]

It still blows my mind every time I hear an American defending guns. In 2021!!

[@DK-gl3ih]

Why?

[@tracyintexas4743]

Not a fan of Piers but major respect for him coming on the show considering their history 👏

[@colinmontgomery1956]

Why wouldn't you like him?

[@bajingo4759]

@@colinmontgomery1956 Arse fan?

[@Moped_Mike]

He got nothing else going on these days since he was fired again...

[@sirprize8572]

They've actually had a fairly good relationship over the last few years despite the viral takedown on CNN. I think more than anything Piers came to respect Shapiro's ferocity in debate and Shapiro came to respect Piers' honesty, even when he's sometimes a jackass for it.

[@metube1744]

It’s all good publicity for his brand. Why wouldn’t he come? Shapiro has a huge platform now. Be real.

[@andrewwells6323]

It's so satisfying that they patched it up and had a real conversation. Says a lot about them both.

[@ablazedguy]

It says that Morgan has been fired from his job and is looking for a new audience.

[@asdf12347109]

They didn't have a conversation... Ben sat there and got gaped out... Did not fire back at all... Just took it like a bitch...

[@paddydondada]

I think they have been ok for a while now.

[@candacex5430]

👆🤣

[@candacex5430]

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[@cowboypilot1089]

I never really cared much for Piers but really started liking him when he spoke out against Markle. I'm so glad to see the direction he has gone and the stand he has taken.

[@ItsMarlies]

Same

[@spaceskipster4412]

Although he's often outspoken, he's always stood by his principles. This is the real Piers talking, it's very interesting to see.

[@AbberjamUK]

You will be hating him again before too long. Piers likes to flip flop to whichever viewpoint will get him headlines and keep him relevant.

[@patriotsonly3776]

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[@patriotsonly3776]

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[@treytison1444]

Even though I disagree with Piers, he made his points a lot more eloquently here than he used to do shrieking on TV.

[@LordOfTheRings897]

I think Piers realized that having a conversation about differing opinions is more necessary than ever now. I love that he stood up for himself about Markle. You guys have no idea how much this means to me. It gives me hope for the future

[@seabass819]

If, 2 years ago, you told me that piers Morgan and Ben Shapiro had a civil conversation, I'd have laughed in your face. I'm very happy that I was wrong about Piers.

[@georgewashington3918]

@@seabass819 Tis well

[@embracethesuck1041]

I mean, he got most of his facts wrong and it went unchallenged, so ultimately you end up in the same place, just more civilly.

[@TomSpoons99]

What do you mean stood up for himself about Markle? Didn't he literally just run away?

[@Noplayster13]

@@embracethesuck1041 it takes a while to actually change someone’s mind. And most of it involves establishing trust and respect. You present reasonable and rational arguments that the person can think about later. If Ben had “destroyed” Piers and humiliated him in front of the Internet, do you really think that Piers would have changed his mind? Or would he have become defensive and dug in further? Allowing Piers to speak and make his points gives him the opportunity to think about what Ben says later without his ego preventing him from doing so.

[@newyd1]

There needs to be more conversations like this. Two people with differing opinions not interrupting each other and speaking openly. Just a straight forward courteous conversation, it just doesn't happen anymore.

[@pelicanchampion8629]

This called Intellectual Humility. It’s the ability to criticize and talk about different ideas in a fair and unbiased way, without judging those who believe in those ideas. This video is less of a debate on which side is better and more of two people trying to come up with a solution to make the world better.

[@jjrodriguez8548]

Bc the left has ..typically...has zero coherent points

[@aurinslady7119]

Pretty sure the majority of people manage to do this. But you'll never see MSM reporting on it.

[@Tom-bi4ci]

It doesn’t happen anymore because people fear getting cancelled for their opinion; whether it’s right or wrong, but you’re 100% right these conversations need to happen

[@mandyhiman436]

its one of the best conversation between different thinking people i have ever seen

[@devon8372]

“Treating gun control as a public health issue would take the politics out of it” I’m guessing he’s never heard of COVID before.

[@Rom116Unashamed]

The interview is from 2019 though so that explains it.

[@johncongdon7398]

@@Rom116Unashamed the interview was from apr 10th

[@clumzycrewer]

not to mention the fact that the NRA has successfully blocked any US funding for scientific investigation of guns as a public health issue

[@Celtic-Texan]

@@clumzycrewer I'm sure the Brits would have loved the argument of guns being a "public health issue" in the late 1700's. Would have saved them a lot of trouble with that burdensome Revolutionary War. Guns being a "public health issue" is a dog whistle, nothing else. What is a "public health issue" is mental health, I'm sure the Democrats are willing to jump all over that, don't hold your breath.

[@clumzycrewer]

@@Celtic-Texan it’s almost like more than one thing can be a public health issue

[@twentysixspaces]

Woah, an actual CONVERSATION happened here! Props to both of you for sharing both sides in a way that forced me to consider the morality of the issue without feeling like I have to take someone’s side.

[@BaltimoreAndOhioRR]

This is really impressive. I have a lot more respect for Peirs than I used to. If only all Democrats (or even 1 or 2 more) could actually sit down and have a discussion like this and explain their side, while also listening to the other side. It gives me a slight amount of hope. Thanks to both Peirs and Ben. Good job. 👍

[@blueman306]

Lol, I was thinking the same thing!

[@allamericanpatriot1007]

Communists NOT Democrats

[@willbuchanan1177]

Ben debating Rho about a month ago was pretty good for a Dem.

[@rhydianc7502]

That’s funny since it was a Trump who was unable to have an orderly debate, unlike his democrat opposition.

[@justinberber9848]

Piers actually makes more sense than Ben in this case. Americans are just so hell bent on having an absurd amount of guns.

[@Armann_]

Again, Ben proves to be critically rational and Piers had the confidence to explain his view rather composed. Great discussion gentleman.

[@FunnyCallsPrank]

Piers and his CNN far-left phone hacking goons will never criticize Pharma, the mass shootings started during columbine around the time Pharma had their tentacles in the schools . Piers doesn't have views, he has far-left allowances.

[@lovethyneighbor6886]

Piers is still an idiot nonetheless, regardless of his forced attempt to remain composed in front of the camera.

[@lovethyneighbor6886]

Piers is a composed and self disciplined dweb.

[@erikdahlgren6656]

That last word is what is missing in alot of todays debate climate "gentlemen" and that goes for both sexes.

[@mtthwpnn]

I appreciate Piers correcting himself when he accidentally called the Uzi a "machinegun." Many anti-gunners don't find such distinctions worth making.

[@aaronvoss38]

Ironically, an uzi is more a machine gun than the guns normally labeled a machinegun

[@itsyourenotyour9101]

He said submachine gun. The first time then corrected himself the 2nd time.

[@tappytibbons735]

Submachine guns are....machine guns, hence the name. Open bolt designed for fully automatic fire (keyword "designed for" doesn't mean it has to be automatic). The confusion most people have are automatic rifles are not machine guns. The mechanical function is designed for a specific behavior which is what caused the naming. I understand that it is not belt fed heavy barreled full "MG" but the submachine gun is designed for suppression and automatic fire. Its purpose is generally in the same category as a machine gun at shorter ranges, which is opposite of a rifle. I understand that morons use these terms just to make things sound more scary than they are but I would consider a submachine gun to be in the "machine gun" category due to its function. For example its not a rifle, carbine, or musket, and it is not a pistol.

[@mathlover2299]

Machine pistol pistols are guns so it is a machinegun by the transitive property of equality.

[@tappytibbons735]

@@mathlover2299 or... by mechanical function and design? The bolt is open for a reason.

[@HeisenbonesKR]

Piers is actually a respectable guy, he just needs to be away from a group of idiots to see that.

[@ReicHHere]

Last time I saw these too Piers is saying "how dare you". I have high respect to these two people and they respect each other as well. We need more of them

[@Noplayster13]

To be fair, Ben was significantly less contentious this time too. Not that Piers didn’t deserve it last time.

[@TrudleR]

Yeah, "how dare you..." just signals that you've lost the argument. I appreciated this discussion here a lot. Last time, Piers just looked like an idiot.

[@gardenguster5271]

@@TrudleR debates are dumb

[@mrwashur1991]

I love the fact that they are willing to meet again, this time piers doesn’t have a producer talking in his ear piece. It’s cool to see people who disagree sitting down again and having a conversation like grown adults. Instead of just name calling and pointing fingers.

[@brjones27]

Or somehow making it about the melanin in your skin.

[@nicksantoro868]

@@brjones27 What are you trying to say exactly?

[@brjones27]

@@nicksantoro868 The left tries these days to make EVERYTHING about skin color. You name the thing, I'll send you an example.

[@nicksantoro868]

@@brjones27 I'm on your side, sir. I completely agree. You don't have to send anything to me. I see it everyday with my own eyes.

[@NekoEspada]

Piers said they became friends after that viral argument years ago.

[@JaddenSinn]

I'm not crazy about Piers, but I can absolutely respect him having the stones to sit and chat with Ben when most people on the other side of the aisle never would.

[@882952]

EXACTLY. It's almost unheard of anymore for a lib to sit down and actually calmly debate THE ACTUAL FACTS anymore. It's usually just a bunch of talking over you, cancelling, smoke-and-mirrors obfuscation of the topic, strawman accusations of racism and sexism, on and on.... I'm really appreciative of Piers for sitting down with Ben and just talking like two men used to be able to.

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

Ben thinks and sounds like a boy man I am sure that reflects negatively for him when trying to schedule debates with thinking Americans.

[@StudleyDuderight]

@@jeffsimoneaux5968 Nah, people don't like debating him because he's really good at debating. The folks who refuse to debate him are not willing to discuss anything. They aren't interested in any sort of compromise or cooperation.

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

@@StudleyDuderight in your adolescent mind perhaps

[@codychipman9783]

@@jeffsimoneaux5968 you don't seem very mature chap. I assume if someone doesn't agree with you, you'll call them a child or something akin to one. If all you do is call people with an opposing view to yours children, you're probably not so good at debates yourself.

[@philliprobertson1347]

I'm glad Piers Morgan isn't saying "How dare you!" Because he lost an argument.

[@DextahPC]

I like how Ben is respectful and and let Piers talk with minimal interruptions. Makes for a much more productive conversation.

[@alanpedrick1562]

Except Ben didn’t properly challenge any of pierces usual emotionally driven non points. Pathetic . Just let’s him repeat the same nonsense over and over.

[@mmbw123]

@@alanpedrick1562 Because the goal of the Sunday Special is to interview people, not debate them.

[@digerati808]

When is the last time you've seen a liberal let a conservative speak his words without interruption?

[@madebymollo1780]

@@alanpedrick1562 What are points if they are not emotionally driven? Facts come with emotion.

[@alanpedrick1562]

@@madebymollo1780 you know what I mean yet you make another non point. Actions can not be merely emotional they need critical thinking to back them up. Piers never provided that. It’s so easy to shut down any of his dull rhetoric. Just looking at lives saved by guns defeats his pathetic arguments of how many lives are taken by criminals. But again, that’s beside the point because firearms are a fundamental right and can not be justly taken by anyone.

[@observeandreport2011]

Never thought it would come back full circle with these two

[@paulboucher5268]

I heard that Jen Psaki called for this circling back.😬

[@joeyislifted2400]

@@paulboucher5268 you beat me to it 😂

[@gavindennis9988]

@@joeyislifted2400 #metoo

[@observeandreport2011]

@@paulboucher5268 haha was waiting for this comment

[@whome1253]

I wouldn't mind seeing Ben & Piers do a show like this on a regular basis.

[@lisamc2716]

Yes! Ben makes a better co host than Suzanna Reid. Wouldn't be hard I suppose.

[@anthonyr587]

Totally agree.

[@nickblais4371]

The show could be called Both sides. With your host Ben Shapiro.

[@Sorenish]

"You have to do something is my point" - Piers Actually no. You don't have to do anything at all. Seriously. The probability of being a victim of a mass shooting is incredibly, incredibly small. You would be better off doing something about heart disease or cancer, it would affect vastly more people. The reason people feel the need to do something about mass shootings is because the media provide an emotional response to it. And because the media have made it political by pushing for mass regulations on guns and punishing good people who enjoy guns. I find it really funny that Democrats complain about people being incarcerated and imprisoned for simple drug possession and usage, but at the same time, are ready to put gun owners in prison, who don't want to hurt nor have hurt anyone, but who don't want to give up their guns. In other words - in prison for gun possession only. And it's not even the same as the drug possession analogy. It's not a perfect analogy. The drugs hurt those people who take them. Whereas I can own a gun my entire life without hurting anyone at all. And yet Democrats are ready to put people in prison for the victimless crime of simply owning one.

[@futbolesvida22]

Honestly, that would be awesome. Daily Wire should bring him in. I've seen multiple times where people will post a Daily Wire video or article as evidence to something that happened and people dismiss it simply because it's Daily Wire. Or they don't like Ben Shapiro. I think Piers would bring a counterbalance and keep the whole group a little more honest. And you'd bring in people who might not care for Ben's opinion, but they might listen to Piers.

[@yanfly]

Piers Morgan really improved his attitude and also with his calmer explanation of his beliefs, I can definitely say I agree with him on his handling for gun control.

[@edujyoung]

This is why long format conversations are so humane and important for us all right now.

[@TrumpForPrison2023]

Yes. But your comment kinda show why Ben Shapiros college debates are problematic. It's a queue of college kids waiting to ask one question that they then don't have time to explain further. I believe Ben has contributed a lot to the "one question per person debate" where he "destroys them" because they don't get the time to explain further. Sunday Special is better though.

[@Gab-cu3oi]

@@TrumpForPrison2023 Trump for prison for what? You’re an obvious idiot. And college kids are young dumb and full of come. Yes I misspelled that purposely. Most college kids have no idea about the real world. I grew up dirt poor, graduated high school. Went to college, dropped out, chased $$$ worked in the oilfield. My grandparents always said to work hard to get what you want. I have. Most of these college kids end up dropping out. Most have never had a real job. Just like most politicians. I’m half Black and half Hispanic. You need to wake up foo. Stop being a sheep.

[@TrumpForPrison2023]

@@Gab-cu3oi Bro, you just proved my point. Who's the idiot here? There is a reason Ben debates college kids. Just like you said, they are not very smart. At least not as politically savvy as Ben. Ben can only win if his opponent is apolitical lmao. How come he never debates actual lefty people, instead of college kids? Have fun chasing $$$ in a dying industry.

[@winstonmartin7149]

@@TrumpForPrison2023 he has let them continue and on a lot of times, the students storm off. He has said in the past how he enjoys those debates with students and people who oppose him. Also he does it in the interest of making sure he responds to as many students as he can. He isnt scared of taking on people who oppose his views

[@TrumpForPrison2023]

@@winstonmartin7149 When do they storm off? In this video, do you see anyone storming off? You can clearly see, the college kid asks a question, Ben gives huge response, college kid asks follow-up, Ben gives huge response. It's not a fair setup. It's like me debating a queue of 10 year olds. Of course I'm gonna win that. It's not impressive. There are multiple savvy lefties online that are open to debate any of the big name conservatives, yet you never see it. Meanwhile the conservatives moan that nobody dares to debate them.

[@CBRN-Fan-Boy]

I appreciated this sit down, a calm CONVERSATION. No gotchas, no sound bites, just a real conversation.

[@steve5123456789]

1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN!

[@andrewtham8093]

Nice to see them together. Shows how we can disagree and get along simultaneously.

[@ThatVeganTeacherYouTube]

I would like to be a guest on Ben's show. I had 1.7 million followers and I was cancelled from TikTok by the "woke". I have always considered myself to be a liberal but I am very worried about what's going on right now on social media. Being cancelled for opinions is wrong - whether you like or dislike veganism is not the point. We ALL need to unite to ensure that cancel culture is put to an end.

[@Investingcom101]

@@ThatVeganTeacherKZbin Why have you popped up in the comments. Really are irrelevant arnt you?

[@shredders3881]

NEVER unite with evil.

[@Eleuthero5]

This is how a civilized debate should transpire. Congratulations to both Ben and Piers.

[@R9000S]

Wow Piers admitting Trump kept his promises. Man truly is “alt right”!

[@dinkle3206]

No hes left.

[@concrete7830]

No he’s a centralist

[@dinkle3206]

Bruh no way hes a centrist. No way.

[@african9686]

Even though he doesn't agree with what Trump was running for but he acknowledges that he did exactly what his voters elected him to do. That the type of government he says he want to see in office.

[@R9000S]

@@dinkle3206 I was being sarcastic ironic

[@TheGreatPooyah]

Two adults with differing views having a civil conversation and listening to each other respectively... rare as it gets these days

[@jimmorrison4163]

If Oprah and Obama wear sitting at that table they would call everyone racist with less skin pigmentation than them, then declare themselves victors.

[@margaretcoyne9289]

Sadly this is what we are now lacking; and the reason for this is! the left know they will be humiliated because their arguments don't make sense...and this is being taught in schools, so what chance is there of a civilized population ...the left are pushing this narrative because they want to bring in communism' so they can control everyone, and they are using the youth to bring this about, how despicable is that....

[@healed1337]

Not just that, but they even agree somewhere in the middle on multiple things, and both of them make reasonable points.

[@pointy7771]

I also thank them both for having a civil and sound minded discussion on real subjects and especially the core causes of democracy and government with simple examples where you can reach a wider audience. Especially in a time where we see newly elected politicians and old ones raving and shouting, swearing and cursing each other online without listening and arguing...

[@wjspade]

It’s great that they were able to have civil discourse; we certainly need more of that. Polarization so often prevents debate entirely and leads to screaming matches. I am, however, disappointed that Ben didn’t defend the reason for the Second Amendment. Piers brought up sport shooting, but the 2A has nothing to do with leisurely pursuits. He also vilified “assault rifles” as killing machines, but the whole idea of the 2A is that it is the right of the People to protect themselves from a tyrannical government. That being so, we are absolutely entitled to weaponry that is on par with what the military has. Guns aren’t the reason for mass shootings- they are just the tool. Also, handguns are the most commonly used firearms used in mass shootings-not rifles. Our ongoing (and unmentionable) mental health crisis is the cause of mass shootings and that should be the real topic of debate.

[@Tareki1000]

It's great to see those guys all these years after that enormous clash being friendly with each other, respecting each other and disagreeing with each other in a civil and productive way.

[@Noplayster13]

It’s easier to get along when a new massive threat appears that you have to fight against together.

[@daanloco7200]

@@Noplayster13 Pierce would say: "Spot on mate"

[@Noplayster13]

@Krimsen King establishing mutual respect and understanding? Exploration of ideas from both sides? Reconciliation of former enemies now found as allies? The mutual recognition that the woke-cult/neo-marxism is the true enemy of liberalism? Etc. Quite productive I’d say.

[@robynadams627]

Democracy! Not dictatorship

[@JonathanGrahamVideo]

Very educated and respectful debate! This is how debates should be.

[@shootstraight91]

the reason I think this debate was respectful is because Ben was the host and wasn't interrupting the guest on every point that he was making. That's what we are missing from mainstream media nowadays.

[@zacho1333]

It’s not a debate it’s just a talk

[@shootstraight91]

@Taxed Burner I am actually not a native English speaker and looked up the definition of mainstream and I 100% agree with you. So how should I categorize them if I want to bring those up in a conversation? popular media outlets?

[@ihavetubes]

what Piers doesn't understand is that by in large governments have killed more people than mass shooters. You can add all the mass shooters in history and the death count still wouldn't touch the body counts of governments waging war on their own people. The second amendment protects us from a tyrannical government. if you take away any kind of gun say the ar-15 tomorrow, they will take away pistols next and soon you won't have anything to defend yourself and the government ends up being like something you have today in China.

[@ATD1990]

@Taxed Burner thanks for telling us what we should and shouldn't say! How should i wipe my ass left to right or right to left ???

[@basedbigmitch7887]

“People are quite often... very stupid, as it turns out” 😂

[@Gigi-ki8xi]

So true 😅

[@cristianstoica4544]

I've heard that large groups of people behave like 15 years old teenagers regardless of the intellect of the people in those groups. I think this is not far from truth and is one reason that governments are patronizing to the people whenever they have an occasion.

[@Sharpman76]

here here

[@Sharpman76]

@@cristianstoica4544 One person can be intelligent, a group is almost always stupid and largely instinctive

[@Noir0rioN]

@@Sharpman76 Agent J: "...People are smart" Agent K: "No-a *PERSON* is smart; 'PEOPLE' are dumb, panicky animals- and you know it." -MIB

[@AP-qu8sl]

I’m super impressed by piers morgan. Also, Ben Shapiro is such a great listener. He won’t cut his guest off and listens patiently

[@shaiajwndbd2119]

Unless the guest starts winning than he talks over you and doesn't let you keep talking like on the bbc interview

[@ellebelle6439]

Yeah i appreciate piers and ben here for sure both are respectful and calm

[@shaiajwndbd2119]

@Miles Doyle ima burn your Bible

[@jaytee2716]

@@shaiajwndbd2119 wow you would burn a Bible? Really? Well make sure to try your best to have a fun afterlife man, Good luck.

[@shaiajwndbd2119]

@@jaytee2716 don't worry tho, ill piss on it to put it out ;)

[@laurak.3059]

"I don't see a need for machine guns " well, wait until the government is coming for you. You will see it then. However, this discussion was admirably calm and civil. ❤

[@somebodyfixmyinternet]

Is this the same government that has access to tanks, miniguns, RPGs, fighter jets, and attack helicopters?

[@titocristobal5573]

@@somebodyfixmyinternet and Drones

[@somebodyfixmyinternet]

@@titocristobal5573 Well, time to pick up our piddly machine guns then.

[@titocristobal5573]

@@somebodyfixmyinternet and our black magic.

[@Enonymous99]

@@somebodyfixmyinternet never read up on the Vietnam war huh ?

[@antimatter4444]

As others have said below, two intelligent people having a healthy civilized discussion; where did this disappear to in our society lately, omg. Kudos to both of them, and should be a regular show?

[@richardmedeiros1098]

Our 2nd amendment is for secure our freedom from a tyrannical government. People who don’t understand this are usually British.

[@justinberber9848]

@@richardmedeiros1098 in reality that's not what anyone buys a gun for though. In most cases it's for self-defense or hunting.

[@docholiday247163]

@@richardmedeiros1098 This.

[@dezman2003]

@@justinberber9848 What exactly do you consider self-defence to be? It's not just from the scumbag gang banger and or home invaders. Self-defence as a concept encapsulates tyrannical government. Although I will admit it's fairly futile to bring a rifle to a drone fight it's still a level of self-defence.

[@dombo916]

@@justinberber9848 really? wtf is self defense to you lmao

[@joygibson6623]

Love that Piers can state something without triggering with anger.

[@itsyourenotyour9101]

Yeah, but I like how he hasn't grasped the snowball effect. He's talking about guns where the problem banned them, then knives were a problem ban them or make it more severe. You know how big of a joke it is over there? They have officers come to school and teach them why knives are so dangerous. It's embarrassing. Hope they can ban blunt weapons next.

[@kristoferboesen5671]

@@itsyourenotyour9101 blunt weapons are banned here. You say it’s embarrassing but you don’t know the culture these kids grow up in. You’re much more likely to get stabbed if you carry a knife than if you don’t. The difference is, here we’re trying to save children’s lives, not every attempt will work sure but it’s better than just witnessing a new mass murder every month (pre COVID) and doing absolutely nothing about it.

[@hzuiel]

@@itsyourenotyour9101 Baseball bat registry.

[@hzuiel]

@@kristoferboesen5671 Our argument is that the emotional response to a massacre is out of balance with the reality of data of countries that have banned guns and then murdered 10's of millions of their own people. In that light, 20 kids in a school is nothing. Also besides the fear of tyranny, unlike in the UK and other european countries, very large numbers of our population live outside of cities, sprawled very far apart, where response time can be very long and even within some cities 911 services can be 30-45 minutes from responding. Then we have a lot of armed violent crime, annually about 1.75 million burglaries, of which a pretty high % are armed, and a pretty large number result in violence against the residents of the home being burglarized, lots of rapes and torture and everything else that happens to people in those scenarios. So the effect from a nationwide response that decides to ban some specific guns or all guns or whatever, has a different effect on people in the middle of a big city where there's nearly a cop car on every block, than for a woman who lives alone in a rural area, and has a gang of 3 or 4 guys bust into her house, but she's got her one bullet the government allows her to have. In all seriousness, 10 rounds(i think some states in the US have actually instituted a smaller capacity requirement) sounds like a lot until you are fighting for your life against multiple attackers. In the virginia tech shooting the gunman changed magazines MANY times in the course of that spree, 10 round limits wouldn't have done much. Also you had one high profile mass shooting recently that used a .38 revolver hand gun and a shotgun, 2 of the most low profile weapons that even many gun control advocates are supposedly okay with as self defense weapons. There are potentially hundreds of thousands of defensive uses of firearms per year in the usa, and it's hard to estimate how many lives they save vs the ones taken. In my personal opinion it's our cultural rot that is the issue, the shootings are just the symptom, we have a lot of miserable angry people that when they shown signs of mental illness and anti-social behavior they just get rejected from whatever little family or social groups they even have and become complete loners. I mean our culture has gotten so extreme that just having different opinions about politics or voting for one party instead of another can literally get you cast out of every group you belong to, disowned by family and friends, fired from your job, etc. When you create outcasts it becomes a ticking time bomb.

[@zenjeongrebelle1808]

@@kristoferboesen5671 that’s not the point! The point is that your very unlikely to die in a mass shooting and more likely to be killed individually! Unless you own a handgun yourself! And don’t forget government! We don’t trust our government given the power of the president’s executive powers! Biden is a prime example he’s ruined our chance at paying off national debt to China and is very much in league with them.

[@cesarmiralles9862]

This just inspires me to understand people's perspective and argue with mutual respect for everyone

[@Epiousios18]

That is in itself is a skill. It’s part of human nature to start to get “combative” while in an argument. Learning to have patience and understand isn’t easy, but is is necessary.

[@Sheridantank]

Except when someone's opinion literally puts your life in danger and restricts your rights.

[@BryceNov]

It's so weird to see Ben Shapiro talking to the guy from America's Got Talent

[@Baileyyyyu]

Love to see how much their relationship has changed over the past decade. I can respect these two gentlemen

[@nickmiller8855]

This is how we should talk about our disagreements, with mutual respect and civility.

[@bradleykillen6104]

Shout out to the comment section for the glowing positivity towards Mr. Morgan as a respected guest on the Shapiro show. Both the interview and audience reaction is something to be held on a pedestal as "an ideal to strive towards"

[@dannybonura3927]

That’s bc us conservatives don’t just simply attack people who disagree with us we listen and then we’ll mock you after you state your BS point

[@peoswriter1]

@@dannybonura3927 Well, neither left nor right has a monopoly on good or bad behavior, but the right at least doesn’t hold to any rhetoric about silencing outside opinions. There’s more allowance for fair play and mutual respect in a disagreement because the right won’t reduce everything to a power dynamic that demands that the righteous dominate the wrong-thinking side (the post-modernism effect).

[@tortillasarenotbiceps7622]

@@peoswriter1 Not true at all. The left has perfected the art of lies, deceit and deception as has been proven thousands of times using facts by men like Dan Bongino, Tom Fitton, John Solomon and the like. Just look what they "tried" to do to men like Trump, Kavanaugh, General Flynn and most recently Matt Gaetz. The left is now a state of extremism the likes of which should have everyone concerned. And yes, even actual liberals who adhere to the old standard of values. Progressive liberals are a virus to all plain and simple.

[@Tyler_Durden_562]

Just pointing out one small thing Piers said...."government should take action even if it's against popular opinion?!" Then you dont want Democracy!!! lol

[@Gondalica]

This is literally one of the only debates I can watch. It's just so civil and they let eachother talk

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

I remember when the news used to be this calm. But that was well over a decade ago

[@bobbob1278]

Oh it was a debate? I didnt even realize, I thought they were just having a simple conversation .

[@blowinshtup6553]

Wait, you don’t enjoy deciphering 2-5 people yelling over one another to make their “point”? lol

[@alanjohnson1204]

The biggest problem with conceding on any little point is that once you give in, any little bit, they won’t stop until they’ve taken the whole mile.

[@tarkamlokar9709]

Does that mean that you shouldn't concede a position that rationally is impossible to defend?

[@vanshgupta8671]

Agreed, but thats true only when people who are having a conversation are acting in bad faith or are just simply too entrenched in their beliefs to the detriment of reaching the objective, honest, rational conclusion. The only time that doesnt hold true is when you have such conversations with people who come with an open mind, without any agenda or overt beliefs about correctness of their propositions, just for the sake of getting to the rational conclusion. Its rare to have such people around you, but when you do, it really makes some extremely fruitful conversations. People always want to be absolutely correct in their observations before they come for a discussion and while that is understandable in an exchange with someone you hold as an adversary, someone you abdolutely want to obliterate, having such notions in friendly environments only works to the detriment of getting to the root of the matter under discussion

[@philshock3805]

@@tarkamlokar9709 Like the position that more laws will prevent the sick and evil from doing sick and evil things?

[@tarkamlokar9709]

@@philshock3805 Yes.

[@BijinMCMXC]

Y’all sound crazy. You act like Ben just sat there and made concessions. Ben pointed out at each turn the problems with his argument until Piers’ argument just devolved into “well we’ve gotta do something!”

[@eroystermd827]

2 intellectually honest men making arguments. Love it, need more of it.

[@wordragon]

Piers isn’t intellectually honest. He equated gun sales and ownership to drunk driving...

[@bibbib3312]

Then look it up...

[@kevinhansen9258]

@@wordragon I don't think you understand the meaning of intellectually honest. It doesn't mean you are seen as right; rather that you stand by your argument as somebody who has had deep thought on the matter but still politely presents it.

[@wordragon]

Kevin Hansen -Intellectual honesty doesn’t mean you stand by your argument, lol. It means you are honest in your pursuit of truth in a conversation. Piers knows that drunk driving is already a crime the moment it happens where gun sales and gun ownership is not a crime. You should have at least looked up what it meant. You literally have the resource for not shoving your foot in your mouth at you fingertips...

[@eroystermd827]

@@wordragon Don't be an asshole your whole life!

[@matt.108]

The incident with the girl and the uzi was the fault of the instructor giving her that firearm. It doesn’t mean someone else isn’t capable.

[@FWbaracuss]

This is how real men resolve issues. Sit down and have a conversation.

[@rune7683]

You sissy, real man rip there shirts apart and fight in the mud. Which I would have preferred seeing

[@patriotsonly3776]

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[@marcustulliuscicero.5856]

Napoleon wasn't a real man?

[@toddhellyar4167]

@@marcustulliuscicero.5856 He didn't have conversations? He didn't get locked up on an island?

[@marcustulliuscicero.5856]

@@toddhellyar4167 I don't think him and prussia ever talked it out😂😭

[@mikemac4458]

I'm ok with a buyback, the government can buy back all the guns that I have bought from them. Any guns I didn't buy from them I will keep.

[@1966johnnywayne]

Yep, call it what it is...private property confiscation backed by threat of government force.

[@aaronlevin2031]

Yep

[@loyalugoff6479]

They can buy them back at $1.2million a gun. That’s the amount I sell them for.

[@lauranolastnamegiven3385]

@@loyalugoff6479 the government would print up that amount to get them, I'm afraid

[@lonestar4938]

Well, they do actually market guns, but it could be barter or cash. I don't remember how much the government got paid for Fast and Furious. Their program to supply the cartels with guns during the Obama / Biden years.

[@qigong1001]

It’s been said the “medium is the message. “ So now that Piers is out of the mainstream media, he can act like a normal person and have a normal conversation. This is brilliant.

[@scarlace]

Don't trust it for a second. He's only trying to promote himself and find a new career and understands podcasts are his only way to do that.

[@bantafanta7301]

@@scarlace wtf you on about, he was always quite honest with his opinions

[@danielt.8573]

And it's also why traditional media is suffering a slow but painful certain death.

[@kapitan19969838]

@@bantafanta7301 It's not about his opinions

[@michaeldonahue4600]

Morgan’s really coming into this interview with a whole different attitude. He’s treading very carefully not to set off Bens tripwire.

[@jessiebedlam6094]

Difference with Smoking and guns is that one "Shall not being infringed".

[@Anne_Onymous]

Exactly. Dude thinks that smoking a cigarette or driving drunk is somehow the same as being guaranteed the right to bear arms by the Constitution. Last time I checked, you can't protect your home or hunt for food with a cigarette...

[@thespider1481]

And you can't use a cigarette to defend yourself or your family!

[@Anne_Onymous]

@@thespider1481 🤺 "Step back or I'll light you up!! (the cigarette I mean)"

[@tylerworrell4446]

Exactly. There are no constitutional protections for cigarettes. There are however constitutional protections for the right to bear arms for the specific purpose of defense against government tyranny.

[@Scooterbeerrun]

everyone here is missing the real stark difference, smoking always puts out harmful chemicals and being drunk always affects your coordination while owning a gun doesn't always put someone in danger of being shot.

[@xaviersales92]

Piers doesn’t need to scream and play an act anymore. That’s why he’s reasonable and speaking with respect. The Piers we all saw before was his TV personality

[@henrrryyyy]

@@eurofox994 As a Brit, I have never once considered Piers Morgan to be on the left. I would argue that he is probably more of a one-nation conservative, rather than a left -wing-dipshit. Part of the reason he may appear left wing is because most of what you have seen is him opposing right wing figures, he always likes to challenge people even if he (probably) agrees with them.

[@Funnyfresh420]

now if only he would stop talking out of his ass...

[@bruh949]

@@eurofox994 he’s far from a leftist

[@CoorsLight_Conservative]

Comparative to the politics in the UK, I think it's fair to say he's pretty conservative in the European side of the aisle.

[@markeyfarrell]

so, he has a false tv personality that he uses to express to the public, and sells to make millions of dollars doing - and you seem to think that is somehow virtuous. I think it proves he is a typical leftist lying jerk.

[@rohitachanta]

The greatest loss for society is the lack of long, intelligent debates. When you hold a civil debate with people , you realize that most of us are actually a lot closer to each other in terms of our political beliefs. It builds empathy, trust and a culture of problem solving.

[@user5214]

Yeah. It makes us realize how close death is always lurking. The greatest threat to death is unity.

[@patrickmccarthy5617]

Thank Shapiro for that.

[@ItsSimplyAless]

Yes, preach!

[@thethe4907]

Look up Destiny on youtube

[@thethe4907]

Destiny would do anything to debate shapiro, or crowder, or literally any major right wing figure. The right is actually far dumber than the reasonable people on the left

[@melanie851]

I'm British but cannot listen to Pierce's patronizing monolog. Why would he continue to compare Britain to the US so much.Different countries, different politics, different dynamics and laws.

[@samdoesmagicproducts7396]

This was so satisfying to watch, both kept a level head and treated each other with respect

[@petergallo7997]

Shutup

[@thebatman4279]

@@petergallo7997.... why?

[@PlatinumGrande]

@@thebatman4279 He’s insecure, that’s why

[@PlatinumGrande]

Unlike the gun control debate they had earlier in the 10’s. (Forgot what year exactly) They have definitely grown respect for each other

[@samdoesmagicproducts7396]

@@petergallo7997 didn't open my mouth, I types it....

[@wadjo1]

Piers changed his attitude. He learned from his previous mistakes debating against Ben. He is now calmer and calculated in his answers than before.

[@RyanInLA]

change of attitude or change of employment? the talking heads at cable news networks, particularly CNN, are forced by their corporate bosses to push certain agendas, and in a dramatic and often low-brow fashion. we don’t actually know what they truly believe until they become free agents.

[@goatboi8823]

@@RyanInLA he was probably forced by his network to be a Dick.

[@joshuabarbanel1601]

@@RyanInLA There are some things wrong with your statement. 1. Ben Shapiro owns the Daily Wire 2. If you don't believe in something, then why would you take a job where you express the opposite beliefs. There are plenty of other job opportunities then a political talk show host. 3. Nobody changed their opinions

[@zeitxgeist]

It was on TV, they're both competing for headline soundbytes in that setting. They're not in this.

[@GinoNL]

Not really. Ben changed even more

[@rayreese8924]

Ben and Piers allowing each other to speak fully and allow each other to have a brief pause without interrupting is incredible and something completely missing from broadcasting today.

[@TS-hr7nv]

Have you ever seen Piers Morgan interview anyone? He’s the master at butting in and talking over people.

[@72wh27]

@@TS-hr7nv He kept cutting Ben off here as well...

[@jdog12197]

Yeah Piers was not showing the same level of respect at all.

[@calebford6318]

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle Well done gentlemen. We need more of this.

[@LunarJolt]

Holy shit. A political debate where neither person is just mindlessly shouting over and insulting the other? Hell yeah

[@Sheridantank]

And yet still doesn't accomplish shit

[@chucho35pewdsmiester78]

@@Sheridantank so

[@stza16]

This is the standard outside of cable news.

[@stza16]

@Krimsen King CNN is pretty bad too.

[@thenickhood1592]

“Why would you need more than 10 rounds ?” 11 attackers Missing shots Threats not stopping until shot multiple times Jamming Failure to fire. I will never understand the anti gun movement

[@RS-ls7mm]

It also annoying to have to reload so often.

[@islander376]

Don’t forget tyranny. I actually think that’s the most important one.

[@insideoutsideupsidedown2218]

When the people are armed, the tyrants are few...

[@presidentresident]

If you'll never understand the anti gun movement then either the empathy part of your brain is broken, or youve never heard their argument articulated properly. And I say that as a 100% 2A enthusiast. There is no debate...all other things being equal, the more guns are kept out of a society in general, the more it reduces homicides. That's their argument, and its a good and valid one. That doesn't persuade me to violate the right to bear arms, but you'll get further actually understanding the other side than you will twisting yourself into a pretzel to either pretend firearms arent much more efficient, and convenient murder machines than machetes, knives or nail guns, or that 2A opponents are just brainless morons. Just bravely make your lesser of two evils argument and keep it moving.

[@presidentresident]

@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 this is the best argument for 2A.

[@dk-cn1tc]

Ben is a baller for letting Piers go and bring up all of his points. Ben even went as far as bringing up ideals that would support Piers' claim, despite it conflicting with his own personal views. Major effing respect.

[@theycallmethebass]

simp

[@dk-cn1tc]

@@theycallmethebass are you mad at me

[@liam802]

@Abhishek Almeida and Ben 10 isn’t real

[@liam802]

@@theycallmethebass grow up kid! You was adopted as a child get over it

[@corbinwilson660]

@@theycallmethebass I’d simp for daddy Shapiro

[@jonathanshjrne3690]

Piers is so wrong in his reasoning, it's painful. He focuses on the smallest of the crime statistics, because it has the most emotional traction rather than looking at overall numbers and working backwards from there.

[@Tryke_Ryder]

The guns used in “mass shootings” in the last 20 years have been around for more than 40 years. The increase in shootings is directly connected to the reduction in the value of human life.

[@joeydesanctis1220]

I think the invention of the internet combined with the amount of people that are on some kind of prescription pills are having a huge impact on the rise of mass shootings in America

[@samuelross9884]

Very likely. Abortion advocates, I'm looking at YOU!

[@Freakishd]

AR15s were not particularly prolific in the US market until about 15 years ago. Today they're the quintessential everyman's rifle, whereas not that long ago they were still quite expensive and niche.

[@afluffypinecone3577]

@@Freakishd That's because, until 15 years ago, they were outlawed by the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban.

[@carbonking53]

@@afluffypinecone3577 no, you could still buy a pre ban AR or a ban compliant AR that did not have a flash hider or a bayonet lug during that 10 year ban period. Same gun, same rate of fire, same capabilities.

[@jaredtansley3236]

That was the most respectful debate I've ever heard. Well done . Awesome fellas.

[@ellebelle6439]

Both are intelligent and respectful, love to see this!

[@ItlsWhatltls]

You should watch Russel brand and Ben Shapiro podcast, you’d like it

[@darkscope2]

First time ive ever seen pierce morgan be respectful period lmao!

[@evflorybarnes]

It is a breath of fresh air to see a sensible dialogue.

[@MichaelJONeill333]

Piers is a lot more easier to listen to when he not reading off a teleprompter.

[@westonsmith7772]

People are also easier to listen to when speaking their language properly....try saying "easier" in place of the 3rd-grade portion of your sentence.

[@travr6]

I was going to do a buyback but after doing a background check on the Federal Govt I have found they have a history of violence and should not own these weapons.

[@XM-qk5sh]

Their mental health is in serious question also.

[@josie4065]

Underrated comment.

[@aaronstokes2883]

Love this!

[@fleshbobregularpants6250]

I'm glad you support demilitarization and police abolition

[@nuithaditrahoorkhuit6229]

The first time I got noticed about Ben Shapiro was when the CNN debate was released. In Brazil, where I live, he became such a reference for a lot of us. Thank you Ben!

[@neoarmour]

Verdade. 🇵🇹 🇧🇷

[@ChristisKing9292]

@@RandomUserYTisFailing It's pretty similar in the US but I live in a pretty liberal area so that's kind of why.

[@lesperdants]

Im not even from the us but i find it fascinating to see ppl with different points of view being able to talk to each other like this... Hopefully one day the world can have more ppl that are able to do the same

[@ggvbayareaoakland5914]

This is a very rare scenario specifically saying Trump did what he said he was going to do.. thats the nicest thing a left person has said about our previous Potus lol. But you are right its a nice change of pace

[@dannywright1317]

We used to do this. Not that long ago....

[@soarabove337]

@@dannywright1317 nah, we really didn’t. I mean, some things were more courteous & whatnot, sure. But at least one example is how Senators & Reps used to deal with each other 1789-1935. Lol. Sort of. My point is merely human nature maybe hasn’t changed as much these last 5,000+ yrs as we’d like to believe. But 🤷‍♂️.

[@matthewgonzalez9537]

Just wish we all could have more discussions and less arguments. More criticism and less insults and demonization of the other side

[@j.brianbobiak12]

@@soarabove337 The point is that under our current laws, we can talk bout things/points that some people may disagree on. The left is trying to take that away by "cancelling" people that don't agree with them.

[@josephchildress225]

A buy back? Well, the government can buy back any gun they ever sold me. Which would be a total of 0

[@janicestewart9223]

Even though I am completely in disagreement with Piers Morgan on his gun control approach...I do appreciate his ability to have a “civil” discourse and his willingness to have the discussion. Kudos to Ben for having him. I hope you have him back.I could see that you were holding back a bit, Ben. Piers probably was too. I’d love to hear more from you two...

[@mubaraqadedayo7616]

until someone like Joe Biden says the same thing and then u go crazy

[@Joe_Friday]

@@mubaraqadedayo7616 Biden has no idea what he's even talking about when it comes to guns or he does have an idea and knows that he is lying.

[@antoniocaballero3976]

What did he say thats bothering you

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

I’m still waiting for the day where the left has the balls to say that if they impose gun control, that means they have to take guns away from all the minorities. It’s whats at the heart of a lot gun issues, but something they will never publicly admit

[@mubaraqadedayo7616]

@@Joe_Friday ok any other democrat. We know Joe Biden Is slow. But most other democrats who can think say the same things as Morgan. Background checks, Gun buy backs, etc. But you small brained conservatives yell “2nd amendment” with no other argument and are incapable about conversations surround guns

[@LordOfTheRings897]

The more people who get "cancelled," the more they will wake up to how bad mob rule really is. But it opens us up to have conversations like this.

[@PlatinumGrande]

This was recorded like a year ago, I believe, but your point still kinda stands

[@LiLGouda.]

Well said. Watching this healthy debate has inspired hope and encourages me to take this approach to anyone of my friends open minded enough to share this exchange.

[@judjudersawn2596]

Exactly. Soon the cancelled will outnumber the cancellers. Who's really cancelled at that point?

[@789syrus789]

This...THIS IS BEAUTIFUL. I’m not a Morgan fan but I’ll give him a benefit of a doubt for his reasoning and courage.

[@andy347]

His reasoning? You mean his completely flawed logic?

[@dragonlance1121]

This is the difference between the Left and the Right. The Left refused to do this. They just label and scream when someone disagrees.

[@cordlxze9559]

@@dragonlance1121 Yall cant be this full of youselves. The right will just falesly label people who disagree a communist

[@dragonlance1121]

@@cordlxze9559 Yeah... Please show me all the videos where leftists are having open and respectful discussions with people that don't agree with them. I'll wait.

[@thomascusack687]

@@dragonlance1121 There can be plenty of close-minded people on the left and the right. I'm not saying anything about the opinions held but about the ability of people to listen to people that disagree with them. You're both just doing whatabouism saying only the other side is close-minded in defense of your own.

[@gearsofwar3xXx]

Piers: "Government needs to be as small as possible." Also Piers: "We need gun control."

[@bnhaus]

Wow, a real debate with no screaming or finger pointing. Thank you for this.

[@daz4355]

No ... this isn't a debate, this is a couple of ball ticklers agreeing to tickle each others balls.

[@ccdsds3221]

@@daz4355 it is called an interview... not everything is an argument...

[@boredCoy]

that would be the liberal tactic finally cooled because the little child had its tantrum and got its way , so now it sucking it lollies and being a smug little pleb

[@daz4355]

@@ccdsds3221 a debate isn't an interview....sooooo!

[@johnmcclane2139]

This gun debate could be boiled down to “facts don’t care about your feelings”.

[@Sorenish]

Exactly. Piers kept going on and on about the 8 year old girl that accidently shot someone (feelings argument). Nope. Never. I'm not voting for or submitting to gun regulations because some girl somewhere else had an accident. Nope!

[@Monkforilla]

And he just kept bringing up how we need to ban ARs even though everyone in America collectively agrees no one should CONCEAL carry a damn AR Also yeah his argument just devolved into “well we need to do something”

[@rioriorio17]

@@Sorenish I do believe though younger people should definitely not be able to even use a gun like an Uzi, like who’s idea was that???? Why the hell does an 8 year old need to have an automatic gun? Most of the blame there was on the guardians that let the 8 year old use it, but parents/guardians/people in general, can have stupid ideas. That’s why we have laws in place. If people didn’t do dumb things there wouldn’t be so many laws.

[@RS-ls7mm]

Yet neither side even mentioned the fact its not the tools of violence but the people. Crazy people kill using anything around them. We need to fix the mental health issue first.

[@122Jeffrey]

@@Sorenish People constantly dying due to gun accidents due to lack of responsibility isn't purely a "feelings argument" though. If you keep guns away from little children, fewer accidents will happen, this is just a fact. Reducing gun accidents is actually an empirically positive thing, not just "feelings". So you're wrong about this.

[@shaneb7679]

Heck I have to give it to Morgan for being there and to both of them for being civil to each other.

[@beardown2489]

Both are pro free speech. At the end of the day, both understand that is under attack. An easy topic to bond over. Without uninhibited speech, this world is doomed. We need to understand each other.

[@patrickmatheson6537]

@@beardown2489 "Both are pro free speech. At the end of the day, both understand that is under attack." Free speech isn't under attack. First off, Peirs walked off his own show... He cancelled himself. The Dr Seuss books you snowflakes love to cry about? Those weren't "cancelled" by liberals, they were cancelled by the estate. You're still perfectly free to show your racism or hate in the US. Wanna yell the N-word while wearing your confederate flag t-shirt, MAGA hat and swastika socks, well, (people will think you're assholes and idiots), you can. You're free to do that but it's also free speech for a platform to not allow your idiocy.

[@bahjo7279]

Pierce didn't listen to Ben in his interview: Ben allows Pierce to finish his lecture.

[@mattmckenzie7654]

Damn, Piers is actually pretty great in a setting like this. It's when he's on a talk show and he's expected to say something outrageous that he's a bit hard to take sometimes

[@monkeyspoon8255]

Ratings chaser

[@michaelm.3641]

@@nittyblahblah8939 we all learn from our experiences.

[@MarioRodriguez-gr8wc]

Don’t know what it is but he was so annoying on CNN. Maybe he was looking at the US through a British lens, and thought everyone behaves like Brits. But liberals like this guy and Bill Maher are losing their patience with the Democratic Party too, it’s like Piers says, your job is not too please everyone. That’s exactly what the Democrats do.

[@randyj3706]

What’s left after banning knifes in Britain. Guess what the violent crime will just be committed with another weapon. Soon cricket bats and baseball bats will start to become illegal 😂

[@andrewnichols1023]

That’s because on this morning he has unhinged leftist guests with crazy ideas he can’t agree with, that talk nonsense, he is talking to a sensible person here that he can have a reasonable discussion with. They may have some different opinions, but their main objective is the same.

[@christianlunday7368]

I like how Piers used an argument about his son as a justification to regulate guns more when instead just makes me want to deregulate non-alcoholic use.

[@Sorenish]

Exactly. Exactly what I thought as well. He is complaining that because his son had to show ID for non-alcoholic beer, guns need to be regulated more. My immediate reaction was the laws in California are ridiculous and need to be deregulated.

[@MarkMcDaniel]

Thank you. But, this just shows that all a liberal wants is a highly-regulated society, whereas conservatives want a lightly-regulated society of self-regulated citizens.

[@jordancook1668]

Good point.

[@gardenguster5271]

He wasn't saying the regulation was a good thing at all, he was simply pointing out that there was a hypocrisy in trying to regulate things very heavily in the United states when there's no sensible reason to do so purely because it wasn't a political issue. He wasn't pro regulation.... if you actually heard his tone and sentences that followed.

[@alcoholfree6381]

The guy is a pompous ass; probably incurable?

[@seidy19]

This is life. Real clear honest respectful discussion. Man I wish I grew up in a time where this was the cool thing to do.

[@auntiec6294]

I miss those days. It's incredibly hard to have grown up with vigorous yet respectful political debate and to now see nothing but hate, rage and bitterness. Truly, it breaks my heart to see what my beloved country has become. 😥

[@neilreynard]

We need the Piers and Ben show! They could team up against people who persecute humanity!

[@adamwathen5962]

This video is the picture-perfect definition of “I disagree with your opinion, but will fight for your right to keep it”

[@Alex-qj8si]

They got balls to be able to converse again after what happened last time and respect each other bravo

[@draiic]

Ben said on his podcast not terribly long ago that after that debate, they kept in touch and even went for drinks together. They're the classic political frienemies and its fantastic. Need more of it.

[@IsraelCountryCube]

@@draiic yeah thats nice i guess

[@michaelmacintyre9643]

Two people with differing views, but able to communicate without being rude and condescending. This I could watch without shaking my head to the point of getting dizzy.

[@122Jeffrey]

Do you think when Ben is like "heh, good luck" it isn't condescending?

[@michaelmacintyre9643]

@@122Jeffrey Not so much as condescending, but rather I think he knows how difficult that would be to undertake in the U.S.

[@Balla4Chryst]

I think this is the most effectively articulated argument for gun control I have ever heard. I really appreciate the discourse.