When will we find the first two-line kites on YouShouldSurf for sale ? 😅
@hirthproductions9883 ай бұрын
That kite was from an era when men were men and kiters were gods! To see what Lou Wainman and Elliot Leboe did on these two line Wipika kites back in the day was inspiring and terrifying. I remember the fixed angle of attack made them a serious bitch to manage as edging the board hard was a big factor in controlling them. The early F-One three line foil kites were also very difficult to manage. It was a game changer when Naish came out with a four line kite with a 'chicken loop' attached to the front lines. Wipika then released a four line kite called the 'AirBlast' which were big air machines for their day. Fun and scary times back then. Possibly the most amazing thing is that your were able to pump up all of the bladders on that old kite without a single failed inflate nipple attachment. The early Wipika inflate nipples seemed to stay attached to the bladders very well. This is something that the whole rest of the kite industry seemed to really struggle with for many years to come. I flew a BRM Parawing for the first time this week at the same location I first flew a two line Wipika kite over 25 years ago and it brought back similar feelings of learning a new sport. Big thanks to all the watersports equipment innovators around the globe for giving us new sports and gear to play on!
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
Haha, thank you for your quote. It made it into my latest reel on instagram
@robertzeeland3 ай бұрын
Before Naish came out the the AR5 serie, they had a AR3,5 It was very much like Wipika's FreeAir. "Edge hard and keep the kite low' was the mantra back then. Look on YT for vid's called 'Loaded' and 'Boost'.
@shacharliberman50843 ай бұрын
I started kiteboarding on one of those cursed 3 lines F-one kites. ("Shadow 7.5m"). I somehow managed to never breaking my back, and I've used it for way too long because I had no money to replace it. The stories I could tell.. What a horrible, horrible kite.
@Ephisian118-d3u3 ай бұрын
Just remember Lou Wainman was doing handle passes at Kite Beach on one of those in 2001/2. It just goes to show how much of a talent and visionary he is. I personally learnt on a 5m F-One ram air foil in 2000. Looking back now, it was total madness. So many people got hurt badly whilst learning. I did have the Boost two-part VHS for instruction, and they used the Wipika Air for demonstrating. What you experienced was exactly how it was, but we were using 7'0 surfboards with foot straps fitted, and had no idea what we were doing. I'm glad the sport evolved, because it wouldn't have lasted unless 5th line kites came out, and the safety benefits associated with 99% de-power, and basically from 2009 onwards with Bow kites and all the development since. I am very grateful to have been there at the beginning of, (what is now) an Olympic sport! I consider it one of my biggest privileges to have witnessed it in my lifetime.
@wingsurfcamp82403 ай бұрын
Loved my 2-line kites in 1999, noticed you used a modern pump instead of the tiny original pumps. Thanks for showing the riders what we had to learn on. Safety systems have come a long way.
@JTechWP3 ай бұрын
I learnt on a 4.3m flexifoil blade ram air kite on 40m lines. Chopped a windsurf boom to bar size, attached the lines to each end and windsurf harness loop. Some epic crashes, flew over the roof of a cafe ☕️ in Cyprus 🇨🇾 and landed on the road 🛣️ luckily kite crashed into a hedge and I missed the razor 🪒 wire fence on the army base ! Good times 😂
@kulfonbustardo15883 ай бұрын
I like this story. I was a big fan of arcs and blade3s. But i got to try some crazy back strap kites with the handles on bungies the kite itself was just a large semi circle with a stuntkite like carbon rod outline zero strut or air etc just a semi circle of fabric. Teeeny tiny surface area only like 4m but the power of like a 12m inflatable somehow
@andymoss42853 ай бұрын
4m? Pffff wimp. 6.6 8.5 and 10m blade 3 😂
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🫡
@tweedracer56263 ай бұрын
His 4.3m flexifoil name was the Madkite 😉 it was epic
@JAMvideo13 ай бұрын
Those years the Wipika size was projected area, so 8.5 was actually 11.5 flat area. You could roll those tips up to convert to 4-line. I still have an 11.5 (16m2) that still holds air. The LE is huge.
@KiteMecca3 ай бұрын
Exactly! And you pump the struts first than the LE
@rolandparry20223 ай бұрын
I had the same set up lol the 11.5 in blue and white on 4 lines
@sauce7293 ай бұрын
"It has high bar pressure" 🤣 Yea because all the force is going into the bar! Great Video!
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
🤣
@bettelnet4463 ай бұрын
This had been my first Kite in 2000! Wipika FreeAir 8,4 (11,5m² Flat). I had the Blue/White one. After Two times of use, i converted it to a 4 Line Kite. You have just to remove the bridle, roll up the tips and use Velcro to fix. At 10:59 you can see the Velco
@MatPendle3 ай бұрын
Thanks for making the video, this is a projected area closer to 12m, I came up with the name Freeair and Airblast at the time, you should try with a twin-tip and roll the tips with the velcro and convert to 4 lines, in 1998 I made the Wipika user guide we shipped as a VHS K7 with every kite, you can see on my YT :)
@mikiautar3 ай бұрын
Legend!
@JimLodico3 ай бұрын
I learned on an Airblast which I still have. I remember at the time everyone was saying I needed to learn on a two line kite. Sailed one a few times but so glad I went with four line. We also flew such bigger kites back then. My AB was a 16. We thought kiting would be the light air alternative to sailboarding.
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
Hey Mat, I would love to get in contact with you to find out more. Is there any chance you reach out per mail ?
@johnravensbergen33243 ай бұрын
Image trying to learn as a raw beginner on this kite. Wow, true pioneers.
@normanh50523 ай бұрын
Great video Ben and fair play to you for giving it a go and sticking with it. To think Lou Waiman was doing handle passes with these kites insane.
@dorn_to_kitesurf95013 ай бұрын
The kite is still crackling😂😂😂
@shacharliberman50843 ай бұрын
Back then we used to make a donkey tail piece on the spreader bar ourselves. (a piece of rope covered with a hose on top of it) so once you're hooked in into the bar loop, you're hooked in, but at least you won't release your kite by mistake. Chicken loops only came when 4 line kites arrived. and initially you had both a bar loop and a chicken loop, which sounds like it makes zero sense right? but the bar had so much 'pressure' (the back lines took a lot of the force of the kite) so you couldn't kite for a long time without hooking in the bar loop. Then when a strong gust came in, you'd pull the bar in, release the bar loop, and continue flying the kite like today - with the chicken loop. (It's named a chicken loop because back then you were a chicken for not dealing with the entire force of the kite)
@belledetector2 ай бұрын
Aaaah that´s why it´s called a chicken loop. Always wondered why. Btw the loop "security pin" was called a donkey dick, and not a donkey tail or chicken finger. That naming came much later after we entered the era of political correctness🤣
@kiteinsidelaurentness25743 ай бұрын
The first kitesurf kite was the Wipika Classic produced in 1997. I have just bought an old 6,5 m in a good state. I have already a 8,5 m that was the bigger size at the moment. Laurent Ness Kitesurfer since 1993.
@robertzeeland3 ай бұрын
Are you Laurent Ness? The Frenchman? I myself learned it on a Wipika Classic 6,5mtr in 1999, bought from new. You are a friend of the boss at F-One, aren't you? We met in Cabo Verde!
@tweedracer56263 ай бұрын
Laurent Ness! Quelle époque ! La French team des débuts, que de bons souvenirs. Je naviguait avec Manu Bertin région de Douarnenez/La Torche à cette époque là, mythique 😉
@willywendt62003 ай бұрын
Herbst 1997, ich war Autodidak in Holland. Das Board 2,1m lang und 40cm breit von RRD hängt jetzt über meinem Bett. Der Kite wurde auf 4 Leinen umgebaut und hab ihn leider und verkauft. Richtig gut ging es erst mit den ersten Slingshot Fuels, Wipika ARC und Naish und einem Twintip ab Herbst 2001.
@Andreas_K_3 ай бұрын
Great video. Love that huge bag the kite comes in.
@robertzeeland3 ай бұрын
I loved these kites very much. You can fold the tips and turn it into a four-line set-up; I knocked up a home made 4 line bar (summer 2000) I rode it with a Slingshot Asylum 146 and full NSI-boots. Banging through the turns was the real deal of wake style, inspired bij Chris Caltrop, Fadi Issa, Lou Wainman and Flash Austin.
@Ralfscho3 ай бұрын
Sick vid dude! And no worries for providing the kite 😎🤙 glad you managed to fly it and even ride a foil with it.
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
Hey Ralf, BIGGEST THANK YOU EVER. Can you reach out per mail ? I lost out e-mail conversation as it was too long ago 🙈
@anneahoi3 ай бұрын
Peace of cake; als ich meinen VIP bekam, da gab’s noch keine richtigen Bretter. So dass ich ein altes Windsurf Board ( Länge 2,57 m )umbaute. Schlaufen auf der Boardmitte laminiertund los ging’s. Wenn da nicht noch die Drohgebärden der Windsurfer gewesen wären, ein reines Vergnügen.😅
@toms74094ts3 ай бұрын
Love seeing this and a reset for all on how far equipment has come! I started in 2003 on a Flexifoil storm that’s basically a 4 line version of what you are riding. Awful kite but it got me my first rides that got me hooked. Still keen to this day so something worked! Glad you made this history lesson 😂
@LewisCrathernKitesurfer3 ай бұрын
Wonderful video Ben, one of my favourites not only do you show how beautiful that spot is (I have never been) you reconnected me with the feelings I had with this kite. It was my first kite :)
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
Huiii, hands down bro 🫡
@Cabrinhakite3 ай бұрын
That was legendary Ben totally Nailed it on the foil 🩵🏴👌
@josejmora9603 ай бұрын
8.5 is the projected area. Flat area is around 11 meters
@YkarusFPV3 ай бұрын
Hi Ben. The funny little line on the bar was the kiteleash, connected to a wristband.
@Surf_Life3 ай бұрын
Quite impressive🤙🏾😁We can be super happy to have such excellent and save equipment nowadays. Great video🤩
@jackignatev3 ай бұрын
"crispy like new, great for beginners, just 1000 euro!"
@christianahrens25023 ай бұрын
only ten times in the air ;-)))
@emmanuelderagne32593 ай бұрын
Hello , i began in 1999 with the Wipika 8.50m2 sold in 1998 . I didn't buy the bar ; i cut my windsurf wishbone to make it . A lot of fun in Helsingör Denmark, july 1999 . I was alone ...
@SharafV3 ай бұрын
Super video. Thanks! It's a best kite session.
@fabsfrick78083 ай бұрын
You are welcome that we went through that. I wish we had it all on video. But I wouldn’t change anything for having the experience to be able to be involved with the beginning of this sport. The kite you have was actually just after we fiddled with folding up the wing tips and trying 4 lines. Your next video possibly? Get ready for some serious crashes. Must have 25 mph plus though.
@ShemLlewelynDyfi3 ай бұрын
I learnt on this kite in 2000. I had it in yellow and a 4 or 4.5 wikipka Classic
@colsson3 ай бұрын
Took lessons in Kailua back in 2002, it was a two line like this. Bought the brand new Naish AR-5 four line but obviously never used the “chicken loop” - instead it was full power all the time 😂
@fuelbasti3 ай бұрын
Had an Airblast of this brand. Their tubes were very fragile. But I still have my Caprinha Black Tip 11.8 from I dont know. I modified it with carbon tubes in the tips and pulleys for the steering lines and later with some "safty" hooks to avoid the hand leash. This time was wild. This kite was a truck and not very handsome. With the pulleys it was rideable. We need kind of an oldtimer meeting.
@JimLodico3 ай бұрын
Yeah, but we all took the pulleys off because it starred so slow with them. Remember trying to get the kite to roll over on its back so it would relaunch. Getting drug across the beach was the cause of many injuries back then.
@MattGardner19733 ай бұрын
So funny and entertaining! Thanks for a great video. I thought at first it was going to be easy - then all that wierd stuff happened! Loved the music. 😂
@flyover19743 ай бұрын
Genau mit diesem Kite hab ich am Reschensee angefangen❤
@torotom20233 ай бұрын
Luckily you've survived! I started with even older crap than this (1998). And you've seen - there is power in it. Btw I have friends on Maui who started kiting in the mid 90's!
@Marc87cabrinha3 ай бұрын
Really nice video! Cool stuff! Do you maybe have the bridle drawings? I have a few of these Wipika's here at home.
@Chaba753 ай бұрын
That was my first kite in 11 m2 size...that time was no twin tip only directional surf boards....to relanch U need to unhook pull the bar behind your head and swim towards the kite to flipp it on the back,and then pulling on one side of the bar....as u said we was swimming almost more then we was riding 😄
@Mr.kitefoiler3 ай бұрын
Nice video Ben !
@stylemazta3 ай бұрын
Funkt mit nem Twintip! Einfach bei 25 knoten mit viel Platz nach Lee loslegen, nach Luv musste dann halt nach der Session laufen, Lou Wainman style!
@sorenwolff49543 ай бұрын
I still have 2 line wipika 5.0 from 97/98? Was taught by Elliott Leboe, if anyone remembers that name.
@dpwild3283 ай бұрын
Ha, that was great! That's kind of how I look foiling with my modern kite 🤪
@Foilfun3 ай бұрын
I learned on the 5m version of that kite. Add gusty winds. Almost killed me once--literally. Not the good old days. Funniest part of your video is that all the bladders held air. The glue doesn't hold long nowadays. 😂
@jornk92053 ай бұрын
Nice, aber das nächste mal bitte mit einer Pumpe von damals aufpumpen. Die Kites kamen mit so 30 cm großen Handpumpen :D
@Mr.kitefoiler3 ай бұрын
that kite is - dinosaur 😂
@wernerxldata3 ай бұрын
Relaunches didn’t look too bad ❤
@dylan_the_wizard3 ай бұрын
How long did you spend fixing bladder leaks before the video? :D
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
🤣🤘
@jmatbast0s3 ай бұрын
indeed! I tried to inflate the kite and all valves were leaking!
@paulgushАй бұрын
Other than no depower, how were the handling qualities? Specifically was it slow to turn? And does it have a bridle, or just connect at the tips?
@BenBeholzVlogsАй бұрын
@@paulgush it was very slow with something like bridles…
@stylemazta3 ай бұрын
Danke für diesen geilen Content
@s2oooo3 ай бұрын
I had the first flexifoil storm around 2000 🙈🙈🙈🙈
@Olegisrael12343 ай бұрын
Super cool content, it’s like back in the time , I start with kites like that
@berni2kite3 ай бұрын
Sers mit so einem hab ich 1999 am Silvaplana,bei Stephan Poppenrath, das Kiten gelernt. Wir hatten dann noch riesige Surfbretter. Mit dem Foil ist es einfach 😂. gruss berni😊😅zfl
@SunpowerPuglia3 ай бұрын
If you roll the tips until the black velcros you can fly it in 4 lines mode 👍 That was my first kite in 2001, size 11m but still modified in 4 lines with a 28m slingshot bar more similar to the actual control bar,s, very easy to relaunch and friendly apart uhm... the stall if flown 1mm over the wind window or leaving tension to the lines, the really short and low depower, the safety line that doesn't allows to bankrolls ect ect, i used for over 4 years, first and only kite for the first year, than small size kite after the 16smq and in the end school kite 😂😂😂
@MrAlexandr5613 ай бұрын
it was nice, thank you
@gilleslehmann61433 ай бұрын
What an idea ! You have to change your van by a DeLorean 🤣👍🤙
@gokucorrecaminos37113 ай бұрын
Really nice episode, very funny and atipical 😂
@FinnLiii3 ай бұрын
Wipika x Marlboro 😂
@InternationalPlaylistsforyou3 ай бұрын
Ich habe genau das selbe mit dem alten kite von meinen Vater gemacht(20+Jahre alt) und bis auf die nicht existierende depower und der unterirdische relaunch war ich echt positiv überrascht.
@summer.vfX-trem3 ай бұрын
i began on this kind of kite. it was crasy to waterstart. after one week, i quit kitesurf for 11 years.😮
@kiteaust3 ай бұрын
I remember how everyone had such a hard time converting it to a 4 line. Nobody wanted to change I had to force Kitesurfers to change. Unbelievable!
@robertzeeland3 ай бұрын
It was weird that Wipika came out with a kite that could be converted to 4 line, but they did not supply bar, centre-loop or lines. So I made them myself. But first I made a pulley-bar.
@kiteaust3 ай бұрын
I use those kites for ages . Great teaching kites. Very forgiving for an inflatable
@seanconolly30883 ай бұрын
I had that kite 😂 in 2000 and wipika classic 5m in 1999.
@Jochumvideos3 ай бұрын
Kite history 🪁
@Wattwurm08153 ай бұрын
Da ahnt man warum Naish so dicke Muckis hat💪😅 so ein 24qm Tubekite aus der Zeit kurz danach wäre auch mal was, vor allem das aufpumpen😂
@TheDigitaldealer3 ай бұрын
haha...nice! what was the price of this kite would be good to know for comparsion with the modern kites.
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
True that
@AlanRocha_3 ай бұрын
Nice 🤙🏼
@69robinwood3 ай бұрын
About as safe as a packet of Marlborough which is what it looks like!
@thomasneumann36603 ай бұрын
Wow wheres that spot?
@slaapkonijn582 ай бұрын
Looks like silvaplana, the most beautiful spot I never kite'd. You have to pay 15 swiss Frank to be allowed on the water. Leave it to the Swiss to ruin perfect spots like this.
@albertwesker25073 ай бұрын
2 lines?!This is really crazy:)
@hanseich3 ай бұрын
How much does a kite like this in fly able condition cost nowadays?
@Agoguz3 ай бұрын
Hey Ben, All ok, really nice video, but there is a "big mistake", that's still present around in 2024: the power of the kite, when you hold it low is LESS than when it is in a higher position of the WW. So when you want to depower the kite, especially old kite, but even modern kites, you want to bring the kite as low as possible. This can save some life around (people following wrong instructions provided by schools and instructors without sufficient knowledge lifted by the kite without any way to solve it in supergusty conditions...) so please share it in you next technical video. If you need additional details just contact me, ciao ❤ PS: the safety system of this kite worked pretty well. Just let go the bar, of course it's projected to be used without an harness + loop. This was a second step... 😅
@pitamedrahtesel3 ай бұрын
Damit hab ich damals auch gelernt, war aber eine Matte mit 8 qm
@danilabagrov71513 ай бұрын
Insane
@John-q7m3 ай бұрын
Did you try a loop?
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
Not yet
@Frerikvb3 ай бұрын
Awesome!😂
@SaschaK.o.3 ай бұрын
Herrlich…einfach Spaß haben. 😅
@ursthuer3 ай бұрын
Der Hans der kann’s auch oldscool kite voll cool.
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
😂🤘
@kcm6242 ай бұрын
Kite looks pretty good to be honest.. Given it's from 2000.
@Obi-Wan-Mike3 ай бұрын
hey Ben, i found out that the material is mylar at the frontrube and struts. And not allula😅😂🤙🏻
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
Good to know 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@richardlangford75903 ай бұрын
Great video dude . Those kites are were I started .. can’t believe it was so long ago.. may I ask were this location is ? Looks a nice place to kite
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
Thanks bro, that‘s lake silvaplana
@kitesurferjoey3 ай бұрын
I started just after that first kite cabrinha blacktip
@peterhicks91923 ай бұрын
8.5 projected area ...so more like a 11-12m
@EricMolenwijk3 ай бұрын
Also. Cool vid 😂
@kieransammon6663 ай бұрын
I have one of those 😎
@superdeifi3 ай бұрын
I learned Kiting 2000 with a wipika 2 line😂
@ieism13 ай бұрын
I've just started the video, but RIP Ben.
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@Flying_nestling_3 ай бұрын
Geil😂😂😂
@dennisdorrer45913 ай бұрын
👍👍
@edooyarzun65873 ай бұрын
next time in 35+ hahah
@BenBeholzVlogs3 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@mab0b3 ай бұрын
damn
@AlohamanIan3 ай бұрын
Disappointed you didnt try a twin tip, we didnt have foils back then and rode TT's with these kites. Just take a bigger board than usual.
@m007mm3 ай бұрын
Why not add 2 lines yourself?
@tenalock3 ай бұрын
Kiters were doing slim chances on these things 25 years ago. Today that same kiter would never have bothered to take up the sport because industry saw more profit in middle aged doctors and lawyers, and shaped kiteboarding towards that market, marketing kites made of golden pubes to the radically challenged and trust funders.😂😂😂Gread work on the vid but dont just give up with the twin tip, you just need loads more wind. You can actually convert that kite to a 4 line - worthwhile for fun, but dont expect a miracle though! ';-) It is also not an 8.5m2 by todays standards, its bigger!