Are Girl Decks Good Now?

[@vitoriapauluci9153]

how the hell is that deck at the end of it's life?

[@bendegros]

For me. I change decks when my performance begins to get limited. It actually has more to do with the grip wearing out and the nose and tail starting to razor tail. I can still skate well on it just not my best.

[@vitoriapauluci9153]

Ben Degros got you brother, for me it becomes unskatable once it breaks apart or where you can't even distinguish what's a nose or a tail 😂 lol

[@sweetsweetmeat]

meanwhile I skate my board till it is drftwood

[@chongymeister14]

donate me ur decks pls hahah

[@briangriffin8000]

for real man, i'd buy this off him lol

[@stezzco95]

been skating girl and chocolates for about 10 years and did notice a drop of quality in their wood but kept with them cause their shape. Now there boards have been amazing lately

[@dylaytch]

This comment just got girl a sale 😂

[@cizi6135]

so would you suggest getting a girl deck for my second board? revive just isn’t doing me very much justice

[@stezzco95]

ISOCheezie yup!

[@failedgamingchannel5294]

1 day shy of two weeks of skating chocolate 8.25 and broke the nose off on a flat ground heelfip and I've never had that happen so I dont know but I like the shape

[@dylaytch]

@@failedgamingchannel5294 that can happen with any kind of deck, if it happens more than once I would look at decks from another woodshop

[@jeffladrillono2313]

I stood on an 8.5 Howard recently and liked the shape but didn’t set it up cause of crail’s reputation for suspect wood. It’s a real lesson to skate companies to keep product quality a priority. It takes a long time to shake off the stigma of using shitty wood.

[@MrBailliebugs]

I've been skating nothing but crail wood recently. It's changed. They still have the great mellow concave but the wood is different.

[@zzzzzzzzzzzz-11]

@@MrBailliebugs is chocolate crail too? considering getting a chocolate board

[@nico.k2000]

@@zzzzzzzzzzzz-11 would like to know too

[@zzzzzzzzzzzz-11]

Nico K. yea it’s crail I know now

[@kingofthedeepsea2458]

What's the best board you rode so far ? I really like chocolate the best!

[@nanping5428]

wow i skate everyday and i change my decks twice a year i wish i had the money to buy a deck every three weeks

[@kingofthedeepsea2458]

Good man skate every day!

[@LosTheGuy]

Id reccomend buying blank decks, they are cheap and work like normal, so you can get more careless with your skating

[@texaspoontappa8539]

I change decks once they break

[@earlalexis1]

I feel u 😭

[@fweg2530]

Holy fuck your doing yourself a disservice with 2 crusty ass decks in a year homie. I understand things are tight for everyone but you can defs treat yourself to more than that

[@shimes424]

"Is the new girl wood any good?" Lol

[@ThoseVeganAussieBlokes]

I absolutely love the fade outs that you have put in this edit. Spielberg would be proud.

[@turbotaylor3929]

Got a Chocolate deck recently for the same reasons. Described my feelings on the new wood exactly. Great to be hyped on buying from Crail again.

[@anthonyskates9079]

Gotta say, it's nice to see a classic popsicle shaped board.

[@Astro80s]

I like popsicle boards easy to ollie

[@laresident7692]

Is my 8.2 considered a popsicle board or does that only apply for 8.0 and lower?

[@jackallevi6203]

Adjacent Tenant popsicle is about shape, not width

[@MH-hi2xo]

LA Resident any size just needs to look like a popsicle stick

[@kingofthedeepsea2458]

Really truly

[@iamhanssolo]

I've only skated Girl/Chocolate since '00-01 when i was 9 I'm 27 now. I stick to the G027(8.25) G030 (8.38) and G053(8.5) I'm 6'4'' 170 pounds and a very mellow skater. I agree about the pressure cracks.. I get a few from time to time but I'm not a stair jumping joslin type. I think your right the newer wood is better but i wouldn't buy one if you skate big rails and jump big stair sets. Good video Ben

[@bullred9498]

G053 is my favorite, I’m 6’5” 220 and they hold up for me, if they break it’s usually because I’ve been skating it a long time and I land wrong

[@glo0292]

I've been rlly wanting to get skating but can't affor a complete looks like fun

[@OutlandishMojo]

Just wanted to circle back and say I picked up an FA deck after your review a while back, the shape with the elongated nose, and I've really been loving it. Gives a lot more confidence when popping high at higher speeds, great little foot catch. Review was spot on.

[@foreroa]

Dude, youve been really consistent on the flip tricks out of nose / tail slides. Would love a trick tip on how to get the leverage for flip tricks out of slides.

[@makrospex]

Instead of popping, you just "whip". Push down the front foot a little and use the upward momentum when lifting it, in combination with an initial slap on the tail (nose the other way round). Similar to flip tricks using a carpetboard (with griptape and shoes). screw off your trucks or take an old deck and try the usual flips until you have adjusted to the new ultra-lowness :) You'd be surprised how well this translates to flips off lipslides and stalls.

[@bendegros]

@@makrospex good idea

[@joshuakastler7837]

Excellent, thank you! I’m really happy to hear they improved. I’m just getting back into skating(at 36) and remember in the late 90s having a Rick Howard deck that was neon orange and it being the best ever for me because of the shape and it was about an inch longer than what everyone else was riding.

[@carlray9819]

Been waiting on this one. So stoked on the new wood and the positive review. Much love, Ben, and keep up the awesome work. :)

[@bski5430]

There’s always that one hater who has to thumbs down a video for no good reason. Good video, bud. By the way, I like them all.

[@joshgross8741]

"No problems with transition." touching coping is tranny in Canny. Fucking launch out the coping you bitch.

[@sadhvacman7238]

Been wanting this one for a while, Ben. Glad you weren’t disappointed.

[@egw5454]

Love the detail. Can always count on Ben to give the most detailed and honest reviews.... you're a great skater for a guy that paints with a sash brush ;)

[@alexandrebacci75]

Hey, i discovered your channel few days ago after thinking about jumping on a board again after more than 10 years break. Your reviews on many board are simply efficient, really like the way you analyse and point out everything on the boards you try. Moreover you got an incredible pop and height on your tricks ! finally i do love magenta layers on boards as well, it gives a punchy aspect to the deck haha !

[@kingofthedeepsea2458]

Honestly I have been only skating girl or chocolate 8.125 and so impressed with the feel and the concave and shapes!!! Support the real company's girl chocolate and anti hero!

[@genocidecrusade6534]

Why? These brands have been dominating on th industry for years.

[@JohnDoe-zq1ho]

Uhhhh Deluxe distribution destroys all of those in terms of quality. It’s been proven over and over and Crail is just fucking sketchy in general, not even including the shitty wood. Skate REAL, their decks sold to the public are the EXACT same ones they give to their pro riders. You’d be surprised how many other brands give the public inferior product.

[@bullred9498]

They’ve been dominating because their teams were always the best, their videos were always the best, their decks and product were always the best, when the owners are Carroll and Howard they’re guna be the best, and the best used to skate for them until leaving and starting their own brand (Koston and Mariano)

[@kingofthedeepsea2458]

@@JohnDoe-zq1ho yes brother real decks are so good I skated a few after posting this comment and the shape lasted and was honestly had a hard time to snap any of them built so well! Had confidence it wasn't going to blow apart stomping tricks!

[@MCNeyeUnspeakable]

@John Doe I’ve snapped some Real decks like 20 minutes after setting them up. I love their shapes and fat big noses and their pop but sometimes its little things like air bubbles in the glue that can make a nose snap off like nothing. Girl and Choc aesthetically are the best. DLX boards are top notch but still, it’s the rider and chance.

[@Gride9782781]

So glad their tails are longer now. The tails used to be tiny when I was 16

[@mouija1450]

This is just my personal opinion, but my favorite woodshops are Chapman and PS Stix. They're by far the best wood and have excellent shapes that I enjoy and am familiar with. Back in 2010-ish, I used to ride a bunch of Dwindle boards because I had a skate buddy that was on flow for one of their companies, and I broke more boards in two years than I had in the previous 15. I've never broken an Alien, Habitat, Zoo York or 5-Boro board (back when chapman was making 5-boro shapes when I lived in New England in the early-mid 2000's). Even if I didn't break the Dwindle board, it got stupidly soggy after a couple weeks of skating the local plaza for a couple hours every night after work, as if I left it out in the rain every night and didn't bring it back inside my apartment and leave it in my painting studio room. I got a Santa Cruz board for free back in 2016, and it was also very good quality. I didn't love the shape, but it was poppy and solid well after a month of everyday skating. It just felt kinda tank-ish and heavy, but it was way bigger than the

[@lockedinlachlan]

I've loved all the Zoo York decks Ive bought from Chapman. I definitely agree.

[@mechanikjoe]

Heck yeah!!! I have a new Girl deck I bought that's been waiting to get gripped up as soon as my current deck gives up, can't wait!

[@Steve-vm1fi]

Skated a couple Chico Big Boy's on the new wood and it was great. Had the same thing with pressure cracks but the boards never got soggy on me

[@JordanIsBadAtGames]

Currently riding a Girl deck. I assume it’s the new wood? I love it. Best board I’ve had in a long time

[@raindropz8460]

Jordan O'Meara Skateboarding dude same I just got one and it's amazing! Really good pop feels good while riding too.

[@niixj]

I've been interested in getting Brophy's new model. He's known to be a stickler for his shape which I can appreciate and I hope the wood is the same as the one you have.

[@Disciple0fMetal]

Great video. It's great to see someone from the same gen. Getting back into skating. I was really into skating back in early 2000's and then just stopped as soon as I started working and finding other hobbies. A few years ago we had a new skatepark built just down the street and we had some pros from back in the day demo the park. Watching these guys skate sparked my interest in skateboarding again and now I have a couple of decks I've been riding. I'm starting out slow but your channel has solid, straight to the point information that helps me now that I'm getting back into it. Keep up the great work.

[@2mb3]

That nollie noseslide nollie heel was nice!!! I rode girl decks pretty long but at one point I just couldn’t ignore the fact anymore that the wood was that Bad!i think I give it another try! Thanks,dude!!!

[@labpartners3490]

Setting up a new board after years of not being on one. I got a boosted board recently and it pulled me back in. I used to skate on a team for my local surf n skate shop, so I was really fortunate with free boards n what not. The thing is we were skating 7.5s and 7.62s.. Crazy seeing all the boards are over 8” now. Should be interesting. Even my old team(most still skate) vouch for the bigger boards, but in 2006 they wouldn’t be caught dead on over 8”s lol. Feels good bein back!

[@IamMortui]

Your channel is so underrated, keep it up!

[@mikejeanette1528]

Ben!!! You scratched up the graphic. How you gonna hang it on your wall now

[@lexbeltran1354]

I bought a Girl complete deck with 159 Indy's and Bones a few yrs ago on ebay. Still rides great!😀

[@juanshady7949]

3:22 I gotta acknowledge that guy who did a manual lol 😂🍺

[@QXZ9027MKII]

Thanks Ben, i bought a pro chocolate deck with same specs, really liked it, the magenta layer was the second from top, so after you grip it, it looked cool.

[@shaggy69001]

the nose on these boards are incredible, this video reminded me. I had a girl when I quit, skating a shop deck now and it just feels a bit off. I'll be getting a girl soon

[@MrELOHELJayKay]

that lacquer on the top ply looks amazing

[@chaikneesnollies5398]

I’m setting up my second g30 Rick Howard Kodak 8.38-32.25 14.43” wb and even though it’s a slightly longer wheelbase it’s been very comfortable with indys

[@lordvader3538]

I recently skated a chocolate for the first time and it felt great and never lost pop. Although I snapped it after 3 months, and I had never snapped a board before. It certainly wasn’t bad.

[@jouhajohnny]

It was 3 months old tho

[@lordvader3538]

@@jouhajohnny that’s right Johnny. It was three months old

[@therealdirtydan1]

Your voice soothes my soul

[@J155P]

GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@rafamarin9822]

I have a Chocolate Jesus Fernandez deck, and after a good 2 months it still has alright pop

[@migle1166]

I have the Rick McCrank board the same series and it’s a great board !

[@FirelordRob76]

that was one hell of a nollie nose slide. i had to rewind it just to believe you did the whole ledge.

[@usafan96soren20]

I've bought a g052 something the almost simmetrical Mike mo 8.25...the most mellow deck I've ever got it's awesome! The other brands (dlx) are too steep

[@EazyDoor]

Haven't clicked that fast on a video for some time.

[@Robosan4000]

What woodshop did Girl switch to?

[@xExile7]

Robosan4000 I heard Carroll just say PS Stix on 9 club today but I’m not 100% sure

[@reup4023]

PSStix, their decks usually are laser engraved with a PS serial, and either "Made in Mexico" or "Hecho in Mexico"

[@boogie647]

Girl made my favourite video (yeah right) and had the best team (mccrank!) And! I love the graphics and branding... But I just can't reconcile sending NA wood overseas, and then shipping it back. That trip is completely avoidable as proven by most every other skateboard manufacturers. Heck, I'm even looking for mellow concaves! Still can't support that unneseccary shipping ... Oh well .. maybe a Canadian shop will start carrying DOA flat as fuck decks..

[@bendegros]

That's my only reservation about it too.

[@boogie647]

@@bendegros also appreciate the review. I still might have to try a girl deck soon. 🤷

[@the6ig6adwolf]

As a long time fan/supporter of Girl and Chocolate I'm so stoked they are making some decent boards again. I might just head to Anti-Social later this afternoon and pick one up. Thanks for the review Ben 👍

[@tobyskatefilms7262]

I don't know, i tried to keep loving girl/chocolate for so long.... but now they (might) be back to ok wood, it's too late, too many good small board companies that deserve my love and appreciation.

[@tobyskatefilms7262]

probably not my money won't be going to old guys who don't skate while the young kids rip so hard. also the old dudes who rip so hard still and have made their own board companies. They were good in the day but they abused it by giving me shit wood and great films. I love them but yeah.

[@MNnytrorider]

Great channel! Have you been to the mountain bike park in whistler?

[@Sam-wx2xz]

Erwin Rommel i have been there 😃 Do you have a question about it?

[@bendegros]

You found me! I haven't been there yet.

[@fods_wir5020]

Hey Ben, do you happen to know where Girl are manufacturing their boards now? I know it's new wood, but any idea of the woodshop that's producing them?

[@bendegros]

No. I haven't really looked into it. Honestly, I dont really care that much anymore.

[@georgigoshev4210]

Really enjoy your videos man, keep it up !!!!

[@_freedumb]

great skating man, this setup really looks like a good fit for you

[@neilsolomon1319]

Hey Ben! Thank you so much for getting me into skateboarding. The reason I step on my board now is because of you. Could you do me a favour and review a Polar Skate Co. deck? It would be very helpful. Once again, thanks for inspiring me!

[@stefanmynhardt884]

Iron Golems yes! Please do a review on Polar. I’m on my third Polar deck now and loving it!

[@Esmith5488]

Just setup a polar, a lot different from what I’ve been skating recently but it’s an interesting change

[@meesloeve152]

I f*cking love my polar deck. Skated mother/quasi and welcome before but this deck is in a new league. So much pop! I've got a boring popsicle shape right now, but i'm going to try their other shapes as well. Set up with normal indys by the way.

[@incsk8]

Polar are the best

[@akseli7029]

I got a polar deck too and i love it.

[@theyoutubeist5726]

Hell Yeah, Ben! Totally Rad shirt! Great bunch of guys!

[@user-sn6my2qt7v]

Please try skate some squarer decks like Polar or WKND some more interesting shapes coming from these brands ill be interested to see how they perform, awesome videos :)

[@ImagineBeingU]

I really enjoy WKNDs decks. The squareness is just perfect

[@etokpolim5165]

Today was my first day with a wknd board and its amazing

[@erapvp]

quasi and alltimers, please

[@samwaarsenburg1249]

Good morning!

[@thenixer8968]

Morning Sam!

[@Sam-wx2xz]

The Nixer morning Nixer

[@Isntauto]

I skated an 8.0 x 31.875 girl board and I ended up learning Tre flips and varial flips back to back so I’d say they’re pretty good

[@chesterroman2506]

I bought two girl boards and they both broke on a kick flip front board with in the first week of skating them. I will never skate another one again. But they have a nice shape i give them that much.

[@sonofAnonymous]

Oooo, I had a foundation deck that felt similar, length and width. It was a blast good for super verticle pressure flips 🙂

[@runningtimelabs]

One thing that'd be cool I think would be to mention in description the set up used in the vid. Peace;)

[@dustinstoner6195]

Now I'm torn between trying this new girl wood, or the DOA flat as funk concave I've been waiting to get restocked. Thanks Ted.

[@Steve-vm1fi]

the DOA flat as fuck board is amazing. Like you, I'm waiting until the next drop and I'm going to pick up 3 of them. the boards should be stocked in a week

[@chaikneesnollies5398]

I’m also waiting for a DOA deck

[@dustinstoner6195]

There's a shop with one FAf left, but it's 8.75. I thought it had sold out, but I just looked and it's still there.

[@brianelliott4890]

Great video as always, I was wondering if you have ever skated a Baker OG shape board? I love them was wandering when you get time to do a review to see what you thought. I'm an older skater also 34, but when I started back it took me forever to find a board that felt right and Baker OG wood was it.

[@jwadiz]

Stoked on an early morning post. A little chilly out but won’t stop me. How do you have so many damn nice parks up there?

[@5dollamakeyaholla]

Nollie noseslide nollie heel out was fucking sick.

[@jessenewton8568]

I got a Beastie Boys Girl Deck like 2 months ago, I loved the graphic but I didn't necessarily love the wood

[@KevinNiceTry]

You should review a Scumco and sons board. They are amazing.

[@Esmith5488]

Kevin Nyitrai had three in a row, best small company out

[@KevinNiceTry]

@@Esmith5488 the best quality hands down. I prefer the kiddie pool shape.

[@Esmith5488]

Kevin Nyitrai same, I ended up getting a little tired of such mellow shapes so I set up a polar since it’s hard to find a scumco in the silver spoon concave. But the 8.3 shape is the best

[@KevinNiceTry]

@@Esmith5488 yeah I only get the 8 38

[@ssbsts1239]

Pennswood sucks.... the PS Stix ScumCo board I rode was great tho.....

[@JonGarcia-x8g]

Been skating 25 years, that being said I've skated countless Girls, and they all have been phenomenal. Not even once did I have a shitty board from the crail. They have always had an amazing and sought after product

[@TheShape.]

My friend had 1 and I've never seen a worse board.. It didn't snap (if he was better it probably would have) but it had tons of pressure cracks, instantly lost its concave and pop, had horrible razor tail (to the point he literally wore the nose and tail completely down) oh, and it did get chips on them and the plys separated too! My god a Walmart board would have been better than that crap. That was his first pro board.. A first board should be good for a long time.. My first pro board lasted 7 months until i gave up on it due to it finally losing its deep concave (was an element shape 3) best board I've ever had.. Let's hope they FINALLY made these better. I remember 1 person on their team said they used 1 deck a day!

[@acgwestsidesb6410]

I have sean malto pro model in 2011 have almost same experience with garbage quality this brand. So never buy china woods

[@acgwestsidesb6410]

Only separated plys deck i ever have. Even cheapest blanks unknown brands does not have so shitty quality as i have with girl deck.... Feels when u ride them after one week its made from carton literally....

[@TheShape.]

@@acgwestsidesb6410 Crailtap NEVER cared. Decks can be made in China and still be good.. Or even great. Look at Mini Logo, Almost, Blind, Darkstar, Enjoi, Globe etc. They actually use good wood and have standards.. Crailtap NEVER had either.

[@acgwestsidesb6410]

@@TheShape. i have mini logo and dwindle decks not even close to dlx decks... But in pass mini logo was more quality i guess.

[@TheShape.]

@@acgwestsidesb6410 Price is also a factor.. Mini Logos are only 30 bucks retail so i would keep that in mind. I've never had a dlx board BUT i bet a Powell Flight deck would make it look weak.. But it would also be 30 dollars more. If a cheaper priced deck is better quality than a more expensive 1 then somethings wrong.

[@bullred9498]

I’ve skated Girl/Chocolate for about 13 years now, with the occasional switch up, but I always go right back #CrailTapOrDie

[@lolayoongikurohamnida5751]

I am curently skating an Antiz deck(french company) idk many tricks ,but its a really comfortable board

[@ryanlannon4790]

Love girl decks when they're new they just get so soggy for me after a few days

[@ypure3859]

3 weeks!!!!!! wow..CCAN I HAVE ALL YOUR SECONDS? haha

[@matthewhiner4318]

Nice bank to ledge great skating

[@pillowpance]

Dude! I remember when you had a thousand subs early last year. Happy to see you've grown quite a bit.

[@christopherrobinson9690]

I like my Simon Bannerot pro model decks! Enough to have three new on the back up! Torn between 8.25 an 8.5. Though. Switching sizes every other day just to try and narrow it down but I like riding both.

[@ddrr003]

Hey Ben I was wondering if you have rode or done a review on the Santa Cruz power ply boards

[@transferz]

So it is new wood! I thought so when I got my chocolate board. You were skating fast and doing long slides. Sick shit man!

[@Papaleiko]

I will try a Girl deck for the first time in the days that coming up. I bought a ''Carroll Coco Deck'', shape: G016, width: 8.375'' length: 31.75 with a wheelbase: 14.25''. Also this will be something like a little transition because I skate 8.25'' or 8.28 (my currently deck is an Antihero 8.28'' length: 31.75 with a wheelbase: 14.12'', I think this is one of the rare sizes that some companies only do) anyway, I the Antihero is really comfortable for all basic flatground tricks..not really for manuals or big ramps. I'm curious to see how this deck will get me! And yea, I'm not a big fan of big wheelbases..I like my feet to be closer. Nice video like always! Greetings from Italy and our pasta and lasagna!

[@bendegros]

I have one of those antihero decks waiting. I'm excited to try it.

[@kanescrimes4848]

Sounds like they've finally took it upon themselves to match the level of quality in their product with the popularity of the brand.

[@coreysmith9166]

Totally would rock this set up.. I switch between Thunder team hollows 147 and Venture Hi Hollows 5.2 w 51mm wheels on a 8 to 8.12 and if I skate anything hi impact I'll go to a 8.25 w thunder 148.

[@morganconklin8849]

I’d still like to see a chemical analysis of the wood. They feel different I mean to the touch. They also seem thicker

[@jamesbelkin9204]

If you haven't already, try Madrid decks. They're made in Huntington Beach, CA.

[@lt_alenko]

Got a fresh new Girl deck because I wanted a flatter 8.37 and I was stoked on the graphic Immediately came back here

[@africanbatmann286]

do give the impact and or impact light decks by Almost skateboards. I have found those to last far past 3 weeks due to the reinforced core.

[@prebenthomsen8246]

holy jeez that skatepark like im dying i wanna skate on it soooo bad

[@bikingweasel6267]

I skated 2hrs a day in most days in warm temperatures and had it for 3 years and lost the love of skating and trying to get back into it

[@EasyOutlawskateshop]

Really curious on what he'd say about doing a review on one of our favorite board company. Do one for Consolidated. By far the best shape, concave and long lasting!

[@craigshewchuk9018]

Check out the Santa Cruz tech and the Pow Parelta tech. One is sizes and the other is like ply difference seems like 2 carbon plys I always liked girl decks always had pop but could never find one for me, size and feel would always come across something better fitting, but would still get any of those new 3 techs, never ridden any of those companys

[@markbradley5355]

I haven’t rode anything from crailtap in many many years. I’ve always really liked their shapes, however they do seem to crack and chip really quickly. Although this is 4yrs old, I would consider going back to crailtap.

[@NicoVans16]

Ben, love your content! Seen your videos on stretching and I wanted to ask if u could do a video of the psoas muscle, mine is hurting so much i cant even do 180s thank you very much and keep skating

[@No1reallydies]

Work out on your core . If you start strengthening your core your psoas will also begin to feel better

[@yokaibyte2133]

I heard several years back that girl boards went from US made (or whatever) to China made... I did notice the change in the quality and so I stopped buying them. I might have to give them a try again now 🤔

[@MrRicoayala]

I was wondering if you could do a review on the oj elite wheels and maybe a tutorial on nollie noseslides.

[@DonNoDraper]

Thx bro I tried 1 back in hs and it was shit normally I ride aws or elements only I want to try out the new girl wood now.

[@gonzo13ist]

You convinced me to buy the mike mo basketball 8 inch deck. I hope it has the same nose and tail as the Brandon Biebal deck. It has the same width and length.

[@Egnalem]

Dude i fucking like your videos plus your skating is amazing. Keep it going!

[@linnsterlingcurebeliefinad1725]

Sick set up man.

[@londys]

Have you reviewed Chapmann's deck yet? I'm riding one and it's hold its shape for quite a while, I ride hotel blue 8.25 btw but hearing rumours that they will switch theirs wood shop due to chapmann is under some problem right now

[@freger5387]

I have the kodak biebl and I would love it if it had more concave

[@billymullins1357]

Girl and Chocolate are two out of a handful of brands that do 8.25 with a 14 wb. I think Zero has them and Darkstar and maybe Toy Machine. Most 8.25's are 14.25 and up. The Indy's on the short WB are extra poppy.

[@enzocautela5376]

That’s a dwindle board nearly every company gets there boards made from dwindle

[@haveystorm5044]

Enzo Cautela wrong

[@jordan-hf6nx]

@@haveystorm5044 funny to see this comment now lol

[@ryangroce2299]

What the heck? I thought you only put out drywall videos lol. Good to see you skate too👍🏼

[@JustinTimbrlake]

Beibel one of my top 3 fav pros

[@zam1atine]

Hey Ben, That´s my favorite shape ever. Like You, I learned many tricks skating that shape so I always go back to it. I am curious to what size indy´s you put there? I always feel the thunder´s give it a more dynamic and tech feel.

[@bendegros]

139's. I agree the Thunders were more tech but the indys put it in my Goldilocks zone. I skated it better on indys. More pop and nicer feeling tricks.