WHO KILLED JAZZ - Award Winning Short Film - Director Ben Makinen - A Must-Watch For Music Lovers!

[@BmakinFilm]

🎟🎬Watch my other Award-Winning Jazz Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! "I LOVE JAZZ" Hats, Mugs and Tees! www.benmakinen.com/merch 🎯 JAZZTOWN - Award-Winning Film: What Is Jazz? JAZZTOWN (now on AppleTV, Amazon Prime, Vudu, Google Play, Vimeo) AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 ❤️If you enjoyed this video LEAVE A TIP HERE!❤www.paypal.me/benmakinen🎯 😇 JAZZTOWN Official Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 🥁Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 🌞I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🚨We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@MrOkgrillo]

Beautiful work, Ben!!! Thanks!!!

[@RainerBoeke]

Nothing has been more devalued in recent years than the work of musicians.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks for watching Who Killed Jazz - I hope you'll enjoy my other films: Watch my otherAward-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@atombombtom8615]

You’ve obviously never met my ex-wife😂

[@RainerBoeke]

@@atombombtom8615

[@TheAmplifierBuildClub]

The old school musicians, unfortunately not the new ones who pretend to be, but are just producing poor quality.

[@kimhunter4634]

Well, maybe teachers and parents, the latter totally.

[@md-ps2hx]

it's not just jazz, it's live music in general.

[@mansize6622]

@@md-ps2hx swiffties don't think so

[@md-ps2hx]

@@mansize6622 It's ALREADY been shown that Swift MIMES. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWnVfoGDireGnq8 Swifty fans are deluded, even when Swifts fakery is proven and called out. It's also debatable whether in fact Taylor Swift (initials TS) is in fact, a skinny DUDE in a wig, a dress and fake t1t5 to complete the inverted illusion

[@Ds74-pmrq]

@@mansize6622 Government regulations are about to bring the high price of concert tickets back to the 80's

[@kappadolce]

Yeah sure, but particularly jazz

[@porcelainthunder2213]

Yes. The 70s brought the disco so live musicians weren’t needed anymore. Just one guy with a record player and a big sound system. That, and jazz isn’t accessible for a lot of people. You can’t dance to a lot of it thanks to odd time signatures. Franky, it became pretentious. It was about the musician, not the music, and certainly not the audience. Jazz lives on in heavy metal…where todays best musicians now play.

[@johncaldwell881]

I’m watching this documentary, you ain’t never lied, Ben. It’s not just the jazz community that’s affected by all of this, it’s the whole music community and I play blues and other styles of music, I’m a fellow musician also and a bassist. We’re all going through the same things

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you brother! Yes, we are all in this together. I was hoping people would see this as a metaphore for all live musicians. My first feature length doc is a bit more upbeat: JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odEsi=zUjWx5ViGO7WZ8lP Echoes will release in 2025. I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Fresh Jazz by Ben Makinen Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331

[@johncaldwell881]

@ I’ll be sure to check those out

[@magicseahorse]

Can you do it for the love of the music and not money? I learned to separate those things a long time ago, because I had to in order to not set myself up for failure. I played covers for money and originals for fun, because I understood that people don't pay up front for art. The fact of the matter is, in my area, most people don't have much money to give, so asking for more will get you nowhere. The money isn't available. The issue with conflating music with money is that they don't go together if you want to express yourself, unless you're just like everyone else. That's why pop music is popular. It's about stroking the audience's ego, not the artist's. Making art transactional was never a good idea. The money and the music both suffer. Think of all the times bands got signed to new labels and had to change their music, fashion, and attitudes to keep getting paid. That's not art. That's just money. The music suffers. I think the best musicians are the ones who will do it without someone paying them to. If you need someone to tell you when to play, you're not playing for you. You're playing for money. How much does it ACTUALLY cost to be a musician? Almost nothing. So what are you expecting people to pay for? Your costs are already covered. The audience spends a lot more on gas money to get to a show than the band. I don't hang out with people who expect to be paid for doing what they love. I do what I can to get paid another way so I don't rely on my hobbies to pay the bills. I noticed those Jazz musicians are wearing clothes that cost more than I've spent in a year. I'm not buying the struggle. They're lazy, entitled drunks. Drinking will make you think you deserve more than you do, and it won't make you earn it. As for me, I don't put any of my music online because I have that strong a preference for doing things in person. It's limited things, but it's ruled out a lot of phonies who need a week to get one take of a play through right. If people can't demonstrate their musical skill in person when I'm looking, it doesn't count. Most can't. Maybe I'll try making money with music online, but not art, because I'm not a pop-up ad. ... As for gigging, get a contract. That's what you do any time there's money involved. A wad of cash is not what you accept when you run a business. If you're not filing taxes for the band, you're full of it when you say it's a "business." These fools are already famous and won't get booking agents? Why not? (Sorry if this sounds personal. When I say "you." I mean whoever.) Thoughts?

[@johncaldwell881]

@ You’re saying a lot but I don’t know what you’re saying

[@BlackRootsAcademyOfSoul]

Well said. The DJs were taking over here too, big time. Funny enough, the Covid-19 lock down helped people realise the importance of live Music. I'm a Bass Guitarist too 😎

[@diment0857]

"A jazz musician is someone that puts a $5,000 horn in a $500 car and drives 50 miles for $5 gig" as the saying goes. How sad it is to see the great Ron Miles who passed away in 2022 at the beginning of this superb documentary uttering something to that effect with complete candor. It's nigh on impossible to make it to the jazz world especially today and despite the blood, sweat and tears any aspiring jazz musician must shed many indomitable souls that could make it more easily in other more commercial idioms still persist; this is the jazz musician's predicament. There's a strong stoic and tragic element involved in jazz, and its musicians are the messengers and flame keepers and In spite of all the adversity, jazz is a triumphant music that mirrors life. This short reminded me on places of The Jazz Loft, another great jazz doc that every jazz lover should check out. Congrats again, great job.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you @diment0857 - much appreciated - you are clearly one of the Warriors of Truth and Beauty ... It is only criminal, I believe, for music universities (high band directors actually) to not acknowledge, address, and prepare their students for the economic realities outside the safety net of academia. It is almost as simple as just not shaming the other genres (not encouraging the jazz snob ethic) ... that way a "jazz" musician may be more likely and willing to seek out the blues, country, pop, funk, show, cruise ship etc gigs needed to pay the bills and gain necessary experiences once out in the "real" world. The Jazz Loft is an amazing film! Since your into this, have you seen the brilliant 1962 B&W drama All Night Long ? with appearances by Charles Mingus and Dave Brubeck! www.imdb.com/title/tt0054614/ Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Fresh Jazz by Ben Makinen Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331

[@santiagoarias50]

'The Jazz Loft' is a masterpiece.

[@diment0857]

@@BmakinFilm thanks! I couldn't agree more with your remarks on academia and the jazz snob ethic (as an aside, John Zorn's Naked City have recorded a piece "Jazz Snob Eat Sh@t"), after all it's just music, and, lest we forget, many of the greats worked as session players to pay the bills, nothing wrong with that (e.g. Barney Kessel, Toots Thielemans, Howard Roberts and a ton of others). Thanks for the links, I haven't seen All Night Long (but sure will), before I read this reply I had already discovered JazzTown on Vimeo (which I bought) and will watch eagerly. Both the women in jazz and the role of native American influences are great topics, your approach and choice of material shows great knowledge and sensitivity, waiting for these films to be released.

[@pansabdelkader]

il y a un titre que j'ailu dans un article et qui en dit tellement à savoir : le jazz n'est plus supporté que par la classe intellectuelle ,et ce titre se terminait par une interrogation ..Pour ce qui me concerne ,le jazz aurait pu et le peut encore envahir le monde entier si on lui donne tout les moyens .Cest une forme de mondialisation culturelle qui aurait pu reussir pour les USA .et c'est toujour possible et d'actualité ..

[@jonathanhutchison2881]

I've heard it said, "When the club owner asks what I charge to play, I say, 'I play for free. I charge for all my time to study my craft, maintain my instruments, pay my union dues, pack and load my gear, travel to the gig, load in, set up, sit around waiting, break down, load out, drive home and unload my car again. The music I make in between all those things is my reward for all that work.' "

[@e-lion6392]

Depressing to see how difficult it is to make a living from this type of music. Improvised music only interests a small fraction of people. beautiful reportage.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you e-lion. Interestingly enough, when jazz was at its most popular (1920s - 1940s) it was mostly written and arranged with minimal improvisation (although the improv/solos were highlighted) - so perhaps you are right. I hope watch my feature film JazzTown and check out my other works: You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@ChromaticHarp]

@@e-lion6392 no one has ever gone into the improvised music field in order to make money. However, some are very successful AND earn a great living. Pat Metheny for instance makes challenging, advanced and beautiful music and the large BANK of a wealthy businessman. $10,000 is not bad for an improvising musician m.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@ChromaticHarp some however, like Ron Bucknma, are shocked and deflated when after spending their life creating it, and placing it on a platform with global access, the gatekeepers pay out a hundredth of a penny per listen - it breaks an artists heart and spirit - he never intended to get rich but if a person can make $20 a month they can at least pay to maintain a website... then its salt in the wound to see people throw tips at bartenders all night for opening a beer bottle. That should make a musician question their career choice, but insanity kicks in instead, because poets are told to follow their heart and the universe will take of you. The universe took Ron out with some nasty painful cancer and he died miserably broke and heart broken ... He loved Metheny - yup, every now and again someone makes it - they find the right balance of commerce and art - that's the key - some improvisors refuse to care about the audience ...

[@pgroove163]

@@e-lion6392 A.l.... going to take over the whole damn thing anyway

[@247hdjazz]

At 18, in 1960, I earned $100 a week in the Tommy Dorsey Band........and I was thrilled! The night that I was hired, I didn't even ask what the gig paid!

[@BmakinFilm]

Wow! An honor to met you Rich - was Warren Covington leading the band then? Must've been with some of the great original players - what amazing history! How long did you play with the band? what did you do afterwards? You saw things change first hand with the British invasion of rock n roll a bit later on... What were audiences like for the Dorsey Band in 1960? My great uncles (WW2 vets) were HUGE Dorsey fans - we would always listen to those records during family reunions on old record players with the carbon needles. Thank you for watching. Just diggin into your bio - my best friend is a euphonium/bone player named Tom Ball - we made a jazz record titled Fishleather Jacket (itunes) you may enjoy You may enjoy my full length JazzTown now on AppleTV, Amazon Prime, Vudu, Google Play... I have completed a new doc looking at the influence of Native American music on the birth of jazz - here are the links Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Fresh Jazz by Ben Makinen Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331

[@DavidStoryMusician]

That's $1100 per week in 2024.

[@1965JB]

Now you’re lucky to get $50 for a night.

[@HunterMann]

I know it’s a bit off-topic but when I won an Emmy working on the number one nighttime TV series I was making $17.50 an hour. I met a barista today who’s making $28 an hour with tips. Maybe I’m in the wrong business?

[@BmakinFilm]

@@HunterMann Quite on-topic actually! The fact that bartenders walk with much more money than the musicians in nightclubs is a source of perplexity and depression - a real head scratcher that makes us feel really stupid for ever having believed this music would bring us financial stability - at least to live above the poverty line. Congrats on the Emmy btw - that is quite an accomplishment! What show?

[@naderzekrya5238]

The abundance of recorded jazz nowadays is mindblowing! You'll need 2 lifetimes to listen to all the excellent stuff already out there. 3 lifetimes if you wanna include average good jazz

[@jimkangas4176]

Good point. I heard a story about Charlie Haden years ago. Some person called him up and asked if he would write liner notes for a Sonny Rollins (I think) release for $2 a word. So he said, "what does Sonny get?". They replied, "well, he got his $100 when they recorded it". Charlie said, "so you want to pay me more than Sonny got and you've been making money off this for years? Ok, fuck you and you owe me $4". I wonder how much his tracks, for instance, have generated in revenue for others.

[@davidlamb7524]

Yes but it's not reaching much of the public. Jazz used to make the pop charts !

[@pandstar]

This needed to be said! I can't keep up with all the great new jazz that is being released on a constant basis from all over the world, in many styles. Mary Halvorson, Tim Berne, Steve Coleman, Exploding Star Orchestra, Darcy James Argue, Aurora Clara, Ingrid Laubrock, Craig Taborn, Alex Machacek, Michael Formenak... I could go on for pages. Might it be that jazz musicians and jazz record labels may be partly to blame? We don't need endless releases of contemporary musicians playing "standards"! We don't need modern jazz that sounds as if it could have been from 1959!

[@BmakinFilm]

@@pandstarExcellent points! And thank you for naming names - I will listen to these groups. I really appreciate your comment. I hope you enjoyed watching this film - I have made other films (and muakc) and have more in lost production: I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Fresh Jazz by Ben Makinen Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Watch my other Award-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I ❤️Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@BmakinFilm]

@@pandstaryes: jazz musicians playing repertory music (1959 classics) is a tragedy when the expectation is that they will be accepted and booked as something fresh... the universities and teachers are in large part to blame for this

[@2009framat]

I watched an interview with Roy Eldridge from years ago. He stated "I am a working musician. I play mainly for a live audience. That is my main income. You asked me what I think of bebop. Bebop closed more venues and clubs than it opened ones. When we played swing the place was packed and the people were dancing. In a typical bebop club there are often almost as many musicians on the stage as in the audience and nobody is dancing. So Bebop eliminated the income of working musicians."

[@HonoreDutrey.Itsays2012.]

Very true . Sums things up.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

I've always said that jazz killed itself by becoming too avant-garde and esoteric. But there's also the fact that popular tastes inevitably change with the march of time. The next generation almost never devotes themselves to the music of their parents. Add to that the modern technological age where every kind of entertainment is at your fingertips at all times.

[@piktormusic2538]

One the other hand, if an art form does not evolve, it stagnates. That could also kill it. The jazz musicians who are artists have often looked at those musicians who try to appeal to popular tastes with a bit of disdain. I would hope that in this world there is room both for music that serves functions and easier listening tastes as well as music that evolves and pushes boundaries. I think that throughout history, most artists have struggled financially, unless they have patrons that they must compromise for. One could have a day job to support their artistic tic endeavours, but that would mean that their art might never achieve its full potential. Such is life. As I age, some of the best musician that I know cannot afford dentists, etc. Sometimes the cost of their dedication is poor health. I’m not convinced that society owes them anything financially, but I appreciate their dedication and their work. Sometimes I also wish that I could do what they do as well as they do it, but I was not willing to suffer the cost. And, though I hold these artists in high esteem, my neighbours are not even aware of their existence.

[@garyhambleton2374]

@@piktormusic2538 you speak nothing but wisdom and truth. thanks for your thoughtful response.

[@TheRealG2024]

I have not played a bebop gig in so long i cant even remember and tbh i only really learned to play it as a means to have the freedom to get around the instrument in order to play WHAT I WANTED TO PLAY FIRST regardless of genre or peoples taste which is usually not very good imo.

[@Matraka2000]

Jazz will never die. I started listening to to jazz in 2019 as a coincidence, I was so stress out, with no patient and suddenly I heard miles…the music relaxed myself, then in 2021 I started to play the trumpet. I am 46 now and I not planning to put my trumpet down because it relaxes me and I can express myself.

[@BmakinFilm]

You will enjoy the trumpet players Delbert Anderson and Ingrid Jensen and Tanya Darby whonare features in my films: Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@BmakinFilm]

Take care of your chops and you will play forever! Thanks for watching! Watch my other Award-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Fresh Jazz by Ben Makinen Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331

[@MarkInLA]

Yeah ! But what do you DO for a living ??!!

[@carlosjohnson5778]

Keep doing that Play!!!

[@pgroove163]

it may never die but it's gonna be in a coma for a long time

[@SherylRenee]

My friend and mentor sent this to me this morning. This was like hanging with old friends as it was filmed in my hometown, Denver, Colorado. Sad that nothing has changed in the music business in 2024, but... we still do it because it's a gift to make and share music. Great job, Ben.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you @SherylRenee I hope you are well. We expose our souls to a full on blast doing what we do. By a stroke of Divine intervention it turns out we have been chosen for this because we can take it, we are built for it even if we feel the pain more... we have blissful moments of joys, especially making music with friends. Did you ever see my feature length doc JazzTown? 90 minutes of our Denver peeps talkin and playin jazz on stages across town! JazzTown is now on AppleTV, Amazon Prime, Google Play, Vudu, Vimeo... you'll recognize them all!

[@skykingimagery899]

We really miss all the old jazz masters who have passed on. And the old jazz nightclubs. Even the Monterey Jazz festival is not as exciting as it was 10-20-30 years ago. Music and art and photography are struggling with ever decreasing remuneration and support.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks SkyKing - yes ... the old ones are missed for their authentic and deeply felt stories of life's joys and woe's. Many die from poor health - that lack of remuneration ... Take a spin through JazzTown for more from the old masters - my early mentors share stories, music and more in the 92 minute award-winning JazzTown! You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 🐞Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@petesacco3255]

I don't care what anyone says I love jazz and these men and women should be making a hell of a lot more money

[@BmakinFilm]

agreed! Watch my otherAward-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@HunterMann]

One of my biggest pet peeves these days is all of the fake hipsters, but seeing this film reminded me that there’s still some genuine hipsters out there, and most of them don’t even call themselves hipsters because they just are, ya dig? Ben Makinen did a drum roll then hit this one out of the ballpark! What a great film and so important … it’s hard to watch, beautiful to watch … wow. As a non-working Jazz vocalist, Jazz club aficionado (RIP Charlie O’s…), and as a longtime film festival volunteer, film fest audience member, as a long time contributor to other people‘s documentaries on music, and as a founder of my own cinema, I wouldn’t hesitate to show this great film to audiences near and far . Thanks Ben!

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you Hunter Mann! This has got to be the most moving vote of confidence I have received here on YT especially given your background, knowledge and expertise. I would be honored to have this film programmed by you in any of your festivals - just let me know (I've got a 4k, 5.1 Surround sound version of Who Killed Jazz parked over on Vimeo you can use😇 Hunter - I made a 1 hr feature on Native American influences on the birth of jazz - Echoes of Tradition Official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE) - I have submitted it to some festivals via Film Freeway... let me know if you think it would be a fit for anything you know of ( i can send you a private screener) Also, my first feature JazzTown (which inspired Who Killed Jazz) can be seen here on yt too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Thank you again Hunter for your kind support and cool words!

[@JimWilcox-q2c]

Ron Miles hit the nail on the head. Club owners know that musicians love to play and that they will often settle for low wages just to be able to play. There are folks who still think that $50 is an acceptable amount to offer someone to play regardless of the time, an hour or two or more is required. Things have changed somewhat in the recent past, thankfully. But the desire to express oneself is powerful and for me, music nurtures my soul so I still love playing for an appreciative audience.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks Jim for your comment - Ron was a humble and wise man ... What things in your experience have changed in the recent past; and what geographic area do you refer to? I am just curious ... the issue of frozen wages appears to be much the same in the US (I have spoken to musicians in Tokyo (while shooting for my upcoming films, info below) how confirm pay there is not good: similar to US, sometimes worse ... stay in touch! Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@DavidBiddle]

Thanks!

[@BmakinFilm]

Right on David - thank you very much!

[@josephramone5805]

The medium we're on at this moment is one of the biggest culprits. With so many high-quality concerts on YT and concerts by top artists available on DVD, the need for live jazz at the local jazz club has dwindled. Sad, but true. I grew up in the 70s and 80s near NYC, and I saw many jazz shows at the Village Gate, The Village Vanguard, and The Blue Note, as well as smaller clubs in the city and Jersey. Those days are indelibly etched in my heart and mind. Sadly, those days are long gone and will never repeat.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@josephramone5805 Must've been amazing shows in NYC! Did you ever visit the Tin Palace lower east side? Teresa Carroll samg there alot at jam sessions w Sonny Stitt and Archie Schepp... I have a feature on Carroll coming soon... ITM You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤️Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖️I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@davidbaise5137]

Thanks for your music and all the work you put into this film.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@davidbaise5137 I appreciate that very much. I hope you discover more on my chan of interest. My feature length doc is JazzTown (AppleTV, Amazon Prime, Vudo...) and here is a trailer for a film i have submitted to film festivals: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE

[@angelocast]

I love music and I am a 43 year old musician and composer. Not a Jazz player but of course I appreciate all kinds of music. Soul music like Jazz has an immense healing purpose, like other kinds of genre specially the instrumental music too. You play and heal, and help others to heal too. We are living through the end of chaos and unfortunately things, seasons, old believes, need to die. All that comes through our senses will perish one day, giving a way to THE NEW. I hope I can be a witness of this NEW WORLD and the NEW MUSIC. Get ready! 💥

[@BmakinFilm]

Music is healing - an "immense healing purpose" as you say. I hope we see the day when these healers are compensated in a similar way as the traditional healers we call doctors and dentists and therapists😇 Watch my other Healing & Award-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@GuillermoCarrasco]

Thanks, Mr. Makinen. Great work!

[@BmakinFilm]

You are welcome Guillermo - I appreciate your message. Please watch my other films and help spread the word. You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 🐞Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@lrvogt1257]

When musicians began over-intellectualizing the music it lost a lot of the heart and soul that swing had. Rock & Roll came along and any kid could play it and dance to it and it felt good. They even kept the jitterbug with R&R for awhile. Jazz seemed like work and most people couldn't relate to what they were doing. Don't get me wrong; I love that music but the public at large doesn't.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks Irvogt - I hope you'll check ourt the other music and films I make : You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 🐞Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@strictlyroots7343]

I realized early on, even though I had some 'success' playing jazz, that I had to take any gig that paid reasonably well. I never made a lot of money but enough to raise kids and pay a mortgage. Jazz gigs were maybe 2% of my total income over 40+ years in the biz. I couldn't have been a musician if I had to rely on jazz gigs for a living.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks for sharing Roots - congrats on the career in music. Did you end you end up plying commercial gigs and teaching? Here's more music film and stuff: You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤️Tips Are Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖️I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@gardinselmer1005]

When I started playing gigs 40 years ago we would get $80 to a $100 . My rent was only $125 a month so that was almost the whole rent cheque for 4 hours. You would have to make about $1500 a gig now to translate to the same buying power.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@gardinselmer1005 Thank you Garden for sharing your experience and for bringing context and validation to the the point made in this film about working for 40 (to even 55) year old wages. It crushes the sprirt of those trying to bring beauty to the stage ... You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤️Tips Are Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖️I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@wdfusroy8463]

That about says it all right there!!

[@bossbob50]

I worked at a couple of jazz stations in Chicago - on air. I was the program director at one of them. I also used to spin records in jazz clubs in the City for 15 years. I was usually one of the people in the clubs - in my 20s and 30s. The patrons who listened on radio, and went ot the clubs KNEW their jazz. One day I was having an in-depth conversation about music with several female patrons. One of whom proudly stated she didn’t like Jazz but liked what I played on the radio and in the clubs. They all said the same thing, emphatically, “If I can’t dance to it, sing along with it, or Make love to it, eff it. I don’t want to hear it." When jazz moved away from its connection to heart, soul and body - when it stopped its down home sense of swing - many people turned away for music that did - including smooth jazz, which jazz itself put down. Few jazz musicians are willing to play music that connects in that intimate way. I’m now 74. While I love Giants Steps by played by Coltrane, almost no women do, and few men under the age of 60. But I no longer go to jazz venues because no one plays to my heart, soul and body. Jazz musicians are stuck regurgitating the bebop 60s. They can’t do it better. YES, without a doubt, artists absolutely MUST be allowed to follow their hearts. Whether or not the public follows with them, with wallets in hand, is another story. Jazz isn’t dead. But a certain style is aging out. The public-at-large just doesn’t seem to want it.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks Bob for that incredible story. And so true about Coltrane ... My daughter however loves Dexter Gordon! Sadly the university training both looks down upon the sensual and primal elements of great jazz, while almost peer pressuring the students into believing they are following their hearts, that they really love post bop hard bop jazz... There does appear to be an audience for the (reincarnated) smoother jazz stylings of the 1950s lounge vocalist, swing and bossa nova with charming and familiar melodies and lyrics (Samara Joy, Laufey...)... still niche for sure, and mostly older folks. Bob - I hope you'll take look at my feature film JazzTown too: FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@ChromaticHarp]

@@bossbob50 Be Bebop was 40’s and 50’s, Not 60’s

[@callumkenmuir2825]

Purnell Steen spoke a lot of sense. Apart from pop music, TV, computer technology, DJs, lifestyle changes, jazz helped kill itself by becoming too musically complex for average ears. Too many jazz musicians now play for themselves and not the public, and a lot of what is called jazz nowadays is not jazz. The days of live music in clubs, bars, hotels are gone. Changing times.

[@BmakinFilm]

I agree this is part of the problem - a big part... There is still live music, its just not valued the way it was. 55 year-old frozen wages; musicians really have to be selling something on the gig, like merch, most people dont even buy cds anymore for obvious reasons... piano players will still have a gig through tough times ... You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@royhorologic1732]

Try listening to some modern "classical" music. Much of it is utterly unlistenable and appeals exclusively to other "classical" musicians. Apart from the digression into "free" jazz, which is similarly unapproachable for non-musicians, I think that jazz has remained mostly very accessible, providing one has a degree of attention span. The only time that musicians could earn a decent living was when there were records.... which people bought.

[@janetfeder8314]

Thank you, Ben.

[@BmakinFilm]

Hello Janet! It is my pleasure - and thank you very much for your generous tip🙏🏼🥁 I tried to find you on FB to say thanks - it looks like you may not be there anymore ...? I have another film, JazzTown, did you ever see that one? Also, films coming up on Native Americans, and Women in Jazz (links to trailers below) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@shanewoolsey940]

I'm 60 playing in cover bands on the weekend. Making a living playing my drums has passed me by but it's better money than making fries at Mc D's on weekends. I'll get back to you how it's going when I'm 70.

[@BmakinFilm]

thanks - I am not far behind you! As long as you keep having fun making music. You may enjoy my feature length film JazzTown which is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odEsi=zUjWx5ViGO7WZ8lP

[@1persme1persme-it36]

MORE AND BETTER EDUCATION!!!!!

[@BlackRootsAcademyOfSoul]

Thank you so much for uploading this. I'm certainly going to share this widely. Greetings from Uganda 🇺🇬👊🏿🖤

[@BmakinFilm]

You are very welcome and thank you for sharing! Do people love jazz in Uganda? Here is my full length feature film JazzTown (themes of mentorship and asking the question What is Jazz?) You can watch my feature length film JazzTown here kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 🐞Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@GENERAMOORE]

Jazz is alive and will vibrate even higher in the age of Aquarius... I enjoyed the documentary and their perspective

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you vibrational warrior! Yes! I enjoy your note - thank you! You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@marcyfan-tz4wj]

2 minutes and 12 seconds into this, i'm grieving ron miles-instantly likeable guy.

[@BmakinFilm]

ooph ... I feel ya... His was a tough loss for all who knew him. A saint and a genius - a very kind man loved by his students, family, fans and musical peers .. Ron is featured more in my film JazzTown now on Apple TV and Amazon Prime -I hope you'll Watch my other Award-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@stuartgerger7828]

what a beautiful labor of love: like great art, a first viewing isn't going to fully sink in, but I doubt I'll do a second viewing. Just move on down the line and as I look back over my metaphorical shoulder, think: "a great piece of art that film. A labor of love."

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you Stuart, I appreciate your kind words! - even you just move on down the line, watch my feature length doc JazzTown next! kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@misterfunnybones]

"Subsidy is for art, for culture. It is not to be given to what the people want! It is for what the people don't want but ought to have!" (Sir Humphrey Appleby, Yes, Minister, BBC)

[@stevengrainger9073]

Jazz died when it stopped evolving and when these conservatorium/school trained musicians who can't swing started mimicking what once was jazz. Of course the great jazz recordings of the past will life forever.

[@BmakinFilm]

Indeed the recordings live forever! I am developing another film that probes the institutionalization of jazz ... Professor Paul Gilroy, chair of Afro-American studies at Yale, and a former DJ in Britain, is critical of Marsalis's role in "turning jazz into a classical music. The idea that culture progresses from a folk to a classical form comes from Goethe and Hegel," he says. "The effect is a disciplinary force policing creativity." Watch my otherAward-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@supmet2]

It evolved, but the schools and conservatories didn't.

[@kindredwinecoff]

Jazz is still out there, and is still evolving! The question is: why aren't you listening?

[@stevengrainger9073]

@@kindredwinecoff I listen occasionally. to see if something interesting is happening, but I find that elsewhere. Please give me some example of new jazz as innovative and soulful as Duke Ellington, Charlie Parker, Coltrane, Miles, Don Cherry, Monk, Sun Ra, Warne Marsh, Arthur Blythe etc and I will gladly listen.

[@kindredwinecoff]

@@stevengrainger9073 Shabaka Hutchings has a lot of innovative projects happening, both under his own name and under group names like Sons of Kemet. Julian Lage is arguably the best jazz guitarist of all time, and he is under 40 years old. Domi + JD Beck are bridging the avant-jazz and lo-fi hip-hop scenes with very interesting results, both in their early-20s. Kamasi Washington and the West Coast Get Down are doing large-scale compositonal works. The "Jazz Is Dead" crew in Los Angeles is rebuilding the dance scene culture, while linking older legends (e.g. Gary Bartz) with newer generations of musicians. Mary Halvorson won a MacArthur Genius award for her innovative improv groups. Miles Okazaki is the only performer to arrange and play all of Monk's compositions, and he did it very impressively on solo guitar. Etc etc etc.

[@22over7]

I was playing a very commercial little gig in Rome (1970) earning $50 a night when Tony Scott, the great jazz clarinetist , came down to my little club and offered me a gig at his place (the Blue Room at the Savoy Hotel). I asked him what he could pay me and he countered by asking what I was presently earning. When I told him, he said "I'll pay you half." I started to protest, but he cut me off with "...but you'll get an education!" I took his offer and sang my folk-rock-blues (+12-string ) backed by some of the finest jazz musicians in the world who would always find their way to Tony's when they were gigging in Europe. Moments of heaven.

[@BmakinFilm]

$50 a night in 1970 dollars is about $406 today in 2024! Half of that is $203 which is twice as much as most jazz clubs in the US pay musicians today. Astounding! You were living a grand life and I hope you rocked it for all it was worth! [Lesson to us all: when asked, double or triple your price so when they come back with half you'l be in the same or better shape] I'll have to look for the doc on Tony Scott: Io sono Tony Scott, ovvero come l'Italia fece fuori il più grande clarinettista del jazz (English: I am Tony Scott. The Story of How Italy Got Rid of the Greatest Jazz Clarinetist) @22over7 I hope you enjoy my other films Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@sulevisydanmaa9981]

I got his 52nd St scene w Mundy on guittaahh as orig NM mono Decca. Haven t pulled it in ages, though ...

[@BmakinFilm]

@@sulevisydanmaa9981 Sweet!

[@piktormusic2538]

Ben, I love how you put this all together. Great work.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you very much. You may enjoy my feature length film JazzTown which is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odEsi=zUjWx5ViGO7WZ8lP

[@merzbank349]

Jazz was the dance beats of the day combined with the narrative of the blues and the harmonies of western art music. Jazz lost the dance beat part and the blues narrative part. It has become syncopated classical music.

[@BmakinFilm]

I mostly agree! Interestingly, and according to drummer Baby Dodds, audiences on the Mississippi river boats (Streckfus LIne out of New Orleans) were at fist confused by the music and did not know whether to dance or not (circa 1917...) - they quickly figured it out! Yes... today the dance aspect is gone... FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@franklee1550]

My wife and I made our livings as working musicians in LA for 45-50 years. She’s a violinist and I’m a trombonist. We did very well. Did everything from sessions, record dates and jingles, to weddings and parties, to Latin bands and church gigs, to Disneyland and jazz clubs, to orchestras and big bands and pop/rock bands. We raised 4 kids and bought a house and sold it 3 years ago and bought a nice piece of land with a couple of houses cash in another state. Being a musician means being versatile. If you just play one type of music, like jazz, you’re limiting your income. Why Denver? LA or NY or even Chicago or New Orleans or Nashville. There are guys in LA making their livings just playing casuals.

[@BmakinFilm]

Your point about limiting one's genre is an excellent one. I don't know when the idea that "I will be a jazz musician" came into being - but I have a peer of a former student (about 25 yrs old) struggling to work - fill the cal - as a "jazz" musician. Our musical ancestors from New Orleans etc worked as you and your wife: Vaudville, Silent film ,circus, parade bands, weddings, political speeches etc... I have however read no accounts of those musicians being able to buy homes - they all had day gigs in the trades. Your circumstances are tied to a healthy local economy (huge community with a lot of gigs) and I am guessing Union... perhaps all put in place, kick started initially by mafia. You have to be a great reader in LA as well. Race plays a part in every scene as well - there was a time in LA when studio gigs (certainly orchestras) were not open to black men... I wonder if your wife ever knew Ginger Smock? Black violinist made some big records there in the 50s. I think she was a concert master in Vegas in the 70s. Congrats on your success! My guess is that fewer trombonists are workin in LA now than there were 40 years ago? From what I hear a lot of bands don't have budget for horns. In Louis Armstrong's early NO days it was the banjo that got cut first on lower paying gigs. Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@franklee1550]

They were a couple of generations older than me but I worked when I was young with some pretty great black horn players on sessions and in bands and on shows. Jackie Kelso,Snooky Young, Bill Green, Buddy Colette, George Bohannon, Oscar Brashear, Plas Johnson, Ricky Woodard, Tommy Johnson, Terry Harrington to name a few. I don’t believe my wife knew that violinist, but there are quite a few black and Asian and Armenian and Latin string players she’s worked with through the years. My era was 1980’s through 2018 and I think the gigs I did were pretty well integrated. When I was a kid I was often the only gringo in a salsa band and the casuals I did were always well mixed racially. My good friend and fellow trombonist Art Velasco is coming to visit next week. He made an excellent living in LA as did Ramon Flores and Harry Kim.

[@sulevisydanmaa9981]

​@@franklee1550DIDYA know Jimmy & Jeannie Cheatham ? Saw em @ The Northsea 87. Check their Concords (pun int) 🇫🇮

[@BmakinFilm]

@@franklee1550 You were in great company Frank - those are monster players! I wonder if your wife knows of cellist Akua Dixon (former wife of Steve Turre)? Akua (more East Coast based) will be in my upcoming film We Are Here:Women In Jazz.

[@nap871]

​@@franklee1550great story. How'd you get so good. I believe the killer to playing well is reading notes and timing and juggling while trying to play. My tone sucks. I bought a new trumpet. It's the equipment right not me lol.

[@black_cap]

Thank You so much of this. And greetings from Finland!

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you my Finnish Friend! You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤️Tips Are Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖️I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@larrysmac]

Dude, love The Five Corners Quintet!

[@BmakinFilm]

@@larrysmac The Modern Finnish Jazz Band! Thanks for the ref to my Finnish brothers - I had not heard of them and am listening now to Chasin the Jazz Gone By

[@akbar8477]

Professor Miles from MSU in Denver, great to see him and all of Denver. Class of 1991!!

[@BmakinFilm]

Ron was a National Treasure! Did you know he was inducted into the Colorado Music Hall of Fame (2018)? There is more of Ron and his music in my feature length JazzTown: FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@tomhill4003]

Great movie, and spiritually awakening. Jazz isn't dead, but much of the audiences are. So many of the younger audiences today just don't "get" it. I still love getting out to see it, but I'm slowing down.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks Tom - the artists today need audiences to "subsidize" with tips ... or to seek grants, sine club owners stick with 55 year old frozen wages ... youngsters tend to expect art for free (or included in their subscription package...) There are youth hip to the jazz ... it appears to be catching on around the world, even if they are only copying the 50s sound - its a start.

[@rosscornelison7316]

Someone mentioned The Pec in Denver. My sister, Ellyn Rucker, played that room for years. She joked about having a direct view from the bandstand into the men's room. I was in Denver last month. She was inducted into THE COLORADO JAZZ HALL OF FAME. Thanks for this post.You're doing good work. R

[@BmakinFilm]

Hello Ross! Great to hear from you and thank you for you encouragement (I've got more films coming as you see below) - your sister was amazing - one of my early mentors! Ellyn Rucker is featured in my full-length film JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Ross - make sure you watch JazzTown - you'll see more of The Pec as well (her first husband bassist Dave Rucker is in JazzTown too). When I was just starting out in Denver a couple buddies and I gigged withEllyn at the old club downstairs in Cherry Creek (Beowolffs?)... and we backed her at the Westcliff Jazz Festival in 1991 along with John Gunther on sax. Ellyn was a huge influence on us back then especially as she was one of the only women in Denver's jazz scene in the 80s. She always supportive and trained us to be more sensitive players. I don't ever remember meeting you Ross - I hope you are well. You can also see Ellyn in this short tribute I made where she talks about being on the same bill as Miles Davis at the North Sea Jazz Fest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYi7p2mboph4jJYsi=tWN2dCtjQc-Q3zqA You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤️Tips Are Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@winstonsmith8240]

When I was young a friend of mine said to my dad; "He'll never get rich as a musician. He'll play for nothing." How true he was.

[@BmakinFilm]

This is sadly true of most - obviously some do become millionaires! There are some caveats to pursuing what one loves. JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@nap871]

Pete Fountain made plenty on dough. He plays a kind of jazz people want to listen to

[@CliffordLetsche]

⁠@@nap871he owned a club (a very successful one) and rental properties. If you wisely invest an advance, a royalty check, or a nice payday, you can insure yourself against gigs drying up. It’s really hard to do if you’re supporting a family, or if you feel the investment has to go into a tour which may or may not be profitable. Pete was able to grow his businesses by staying close to home, and not hitting the road again until nostalgia tours allowed him to do so profitably. I get what you’re saying, but it’s maybe a little unfair to compare most musicians to PF, who was obviously a very talented entrepreneur.

[@iluomobravo]

Everyone loves jazz but no-one wants to pay for it.

[@Azman.]

Jazz muzik will never died. Unless the genuine jazz musicians kill it! I'm listening to jazz many² years ago and a lot others muzik before into jazz. Greetings from Jazzman Kuala Lumpur.

[@BmakinFilm]

thank you very much Azman. - I am in Bali just a bit south of you! Keep listening: I have made a lot of music too: You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@fletcherward]

Oh dang. You left an unresolved chord at 20:26. The cat was just about to play it. Now I can't sleep.

[@BmakinFilm]

Not sleeping can be a great thing when going to JazzTown: watch my award winning feature doc JazzTown!Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@jamesmachado8874]

I can hear the next cord in my head. It's bugging me.

[@guitarplayerfactorychannel]

Loius Armstrong was succesful because the average person coukd hear the melody and harmony, with some jazz sweets on top. Jazz is so extreme and overblown in many instances that the average person is not going to go home with a melody in their ear. As one guy there said the jszz is killing itself trying to be the mostest. Similarly, the conductor Sir Thomas Beecham said "why do no orchestras play music from the 20thC? A lack of melody".

[@BmakinFilm]

Here here! Most exquisite delights are found in my other movies Watch my other Award-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I ❤️Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@bjonsax]

Jazz is a spirit. It can’t be killed. Energy never dies it just changes form. Jazz has grandchildren, Hip-Hop, Funk, GO-GO. it’s still very much a foundation of Black American Music.

[@BmakinFilm]

Jazz unquestionably comes from a multi-cultural blend unique to America in the late 1800s. (Creole, Black Indian, African American, Native American, Italian, Jew, Mexican, Caribbean...) Have you actually watched this film yet? If you have commented here without watching you must buy an I Love Jazz Hat 🥳Watch my other Award-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@brucesmith6007]

Spotify and cell phone killed record sales. CDs were great for jazz, because the songs are about 10 minutes a song and we liistened to them over and over again.

[@BmakinFilm]

It is such a scam that optical scanners (cd players) were removed from laptops and desk top computers. Spotify ... they must've bribed some US regulatory agency - its just such monopoly - the users, great fans of music, have no idea how screwed the musicians are ... Can you imagine a dentist making a penny every time they cleaned your teeth? Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@larrypatchett3474]

Great work Ben! Touches on all the frustrations of trying to provide sound for live bands as well. It took nearly a ton of PA system to do a club or hotel gig back in the day. Hard for any band to come up with the extra $100-150 for a sound guy. As noted at the end of the film, so often, the music is a secondary concern of the people in the audience. Those gigs were hard to get through. Little wonder younger audiences see no value in live performance. The music in their lives has cost them little. They did not need to hunt it down in a record store. It came to them through the web, as a file. Even a CD was tactile, giving the music on it substance. Hard to imagine what music of today will stand the test of time.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you Larry! You have added excellent context: The Soundman! You must've been lugging more gear than the B-3 Hammond player and drummer combined! Your point regarding the free and easy delivery of music (and FILM) to the younger generation explains a lot! There is a blasé attitude toward the creators and their work... or at least there is a separation of value, as you have written. Value, money, has become so invisible through the digitization ... at least when it comes to art , and even to tipping a band ... seems people arre more willing to tip for a cup of coffee or for a beer than for a song ... We would spend hours driving to a record store and then thumbing through bins reading liner notes ... having something tactile ... great thoughts Larry - thanks for spreading the word on my films and music ... Here are links to some music of mine that was never well promoted when released, and my films updates (screeners for upcoming) I have an eclectic mix of "jazz" records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: "Tenderly" (straight ahead jazz w vocals) music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen: "Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug" (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Watch my other Award-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JAZZTOWN  AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1  Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 JAZZTOWN AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@rosscornelison7316]

Sound guys are, I'm sure mostly good guys, but they are a big part of the problem. You don't need a sound guy in a fifteen table room.

[@Yocambio]

Charlie Hunter fan here. Love his work. Thanks for giving him some screen time.

[@BmakinFilm]

Charlie is Tops! He has much more to say and play in my feature length film JazzTown: JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odEsi=zUjWx5ViGO7WZ8lP Echoes will release in 2025.

[@zorkestar]

Add no smoking in clubs and no drunk driving to the list, methamphetamines went away and were replaced by marijuana smokers, not a money maker for the nightclub, ascap and bmi shutting down clubs (happened to me twice), old people were listening to it, making it anathema to the young. Also jazz fell into the classical trap. And I am sure much more, but, if you can get them dancing again, we stand a chance.

[@BmakinFilm]

Good points - there's still a lot of coke out there (cut with a lot of meth) - depending were you are in the US ... El Chapultepec was the great jazz dive in Denver (now out of business - inducted into the Colorado Music Hall of Fame last week!) : young and old and all races mixed freely ... but the old stopped drinking as much and went home earlier - the youth ( and owners) wanted more blues and rock in the mix... jazz went to two off nights a week ... this club also paid the same it did per musician as it did in 1980: $75 JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@angelozollo9506]

Mr Makinen , that was fantastic!

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you Angelo. You will most likely enjoy my feature length film JazzTown as well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 🐞Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@PabloVestory]

Tremendous work, thank you very much! Really moving ending How could anyone even think in removing blues from jazz curriculums? 7:03 It's removing the bones from the body. Those very prestigious schools are totally crazy!

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks Pablo for watching to the end... these were my friends and peers... I learned a lot from them... sad they are gone, happy for the ones still with us. - You may enjoy my feature length film JazzTown which is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odEsi=zUjWx5ViGO7WZ8lP

[@StevenCharlesJazz]

Amen! "If you can't play the blues... you might as well hang it up." . . . - Dexter Gordon "Blues is to jazz what yeast is to bread-without it, it's flat." -Carmen McCrae

[@IntegreatestTinkers]

Wow! First, the comment at the end about thinking about things from the perspective of the dying person-that everyone they’ve ever loved will die at the same time-made me seriously pause. What a fantastic comment about perception. I love how this looks at the socioeconomic components. I think it’s criminal how artists across so many forms need to choose between sometimes basic needs and their art. It’s a really interesting and important point that the artist’s love of art is manipulated by those with resources. Too few people don’t realize that the downstream impact of this is the depletion of those areas of art too.

[@johnsharpe734]

I'm a jazz musician in UK and same exploitation exists here..... The pure love of this amazing art form allows this to happen...it takes a few years to be a dentist....but much more to be a pro level jazz person....say £100k pa dentist ...£10k jazz musician, probably less...but better for our well being mentally and physically ....

[@georgeconnolly7930]

BMaking - thank you this is beautiful and important. Live music is the life blood of music. Live music is what drives the bus. We love musicians because you play your music for us. Thank you for beautifully capturing our love and dedication to live music.

[@BmakinFilm]

You are most welcome George and thank you for sharing those sentiments with me - really means a lot! I think you'll enjoy JAZZTOWN too - I made JazzTown as a way to honor my mentors while exploring the meaning of jazz - JazzTown is now free here on YT: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@wijsfglobal]

Like in any other business, the jazz musician must understand how to negotiate a salary. If you are playing to play rather than working to work, you will accept any kind of payment.

[@BmakinFilm]

Excellent suggestion: jazz musicians have been coming out of universities for the last 40 years: their music professors should equip them with those skills needed to survive in the music biz: Salary Negotiation and Financial Literacy. These are things that the distant past could sometimes be learned by apprenticing in big bands and other smaller touring bands... Watch my other Award-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JAZZTOWN  AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1  Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 JAZZTOWN AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Fresh Jazz by Ben Makinen Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: Fishleather Jacket (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara)

[@Jazz313]

Insightful and much needed reminder of our lost ❤❤❤

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you Jazz313 (Cheers to the Funk Brothers! That was a great doc on Motown ... Also: my father, born in Detroit, went to Cass Tech along with Donald Byrd back in the 50s) . I believe you will enjoy my feature film JazzTown, which is an ode to my mentors - like bassist Charles Burrell (now 104 years old!) who also went to Cass Tech in the 30s! and Dianne Reeves ... check out JazzTown: FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@Jazz313]

@@BmakinFilm Ron Carter, Barry Harris, Ali Jackson, Gerri Allen, Regina Carter, Roland Hanna, Carlos McKinney -all went to Cass Technical High School. What is your Dad’s name so when I do my next Detroit Jazz I can recognize him. Thanks for all your work on Jazz!!!

[@BmakinFilm]

@@Jazz313 My father's name is Evert M Makinen. He was Cass Tech class president 1957. He died in 2016.

[@Jazz313]

@ I know people from that class and I will inquire about him

[@BmakinFilm]

@@Jazz313 any news yet on my dad?

[@LorneSwain]

Ben, thank you so much for this important work. Such a tragedy. I live in Nashville, so things might be a little better here for live music, and ironically a bit better for jazz (IMHO). When I was in high school, the AV department encouraged some of us to sign up for lunchtime time radio deejay slots. They encouraged us to play whatever we wanted as long as lyrics were not explicit. It was the late 70s, and most of the music was Van Halen, Metallica or Earth, Wind and Fire and The Commodores. Pure jazz was already waning then, at least in my circles. But my jazz band teacher had introduced me to Miles, Coltrane, Monk and Brubeck and that is (along with Weather Report and Chick Corea) what became my deejay set list. Most of my friends thought I was weird (guilty) and didn't get it. I spent a lot time (mostly in vain) trying to explain it to them. But liked it mainly because of the virtuosity, and I thought (perhaps snobbishly) the 12-note inspired chord changes were the coolest thing ever. Unfortunately, virtuosity has itself has garnered a diminishing appreciation over the years (again IMHO). With passionate jazz educators Jazz will never completely die. But culturally, video electronics (among other things, as cited in your doc) have changed the idea of entertainment and has been brutal on the geniuses who are gifted enough to play this style of music. Thank God most of them don't do it for the money, because if that were the case, it certainly would be gone. At least I managed to pass along a love for jazz to my kids.

[@BmakinFilm]

It would seem that ironic that Country Music Nashville would pay jazz musicians better (can you find out what a jazz musician makes on a typical Friday night gig? Do you think tips are better in Nashville? Or just that there are more steady gigs? Great story about spinning Miles and Monk and Weather Report! Yes - today we have much virtuosity with much less authentic story telling ... hopefully the youngsters will stay in the game long enough to find their voice... I'm glad your kids love it now too! Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@JoeBlakeonQuora]

Very enjoyable, but it hurts the way the live scene has gone, also here in Australia. Great little movie! ❤

[@BmakinFilm]

I appreciate this Joe - thank you. My first film JazzTown is more upbeat in tone and goes into the definition of jazz and the joy of making the music. JazzTown is on AppleTV, Amazon Prime, Vudu. I know other people have watched JazzTown from Australia - let me know what you think!

[@billwolfer4020]

Damn. Yeah, that's about the size of it. Excellent work, and too depressing. What a world. BTW, I once sat in with some of those Denver jazz guys when I was in college, and they gave me a hard time. They let me know I needed more time in the woodshed. It was a good lesson.

[@BmakinFilm]

Bill - WOLF! thank you very much for watching and for your comments. It means a lot coming from you - you've had some fairly grand accomplishments in this business! Do you remember the people you sat in with in Denver? I got chewed out by a few as well, some were more understated ... but they cared enough to challenge us to improve - as you said we needed it. None of this, "Yeah man, sounds great!" BS And they wouldn't suffer fools, and they wouldn't let you drag the quality of their gig down. But when you got it together they kept you up on stage to play! Those guys were the last generation to have come up from the streets, IOW no university schooling - there were no schools teaching jazz - they learned it in the heat of battle. There is a deep sadness to all of this ... many people start with a dream and continue to work hard and harder with the notion that things must get better the more one improves ... Sometimes it does for a few, especially those who are quick to adapt and change with the times ...I hope to see you around more here on the Net - Cheers and thanks again: your words help keep the positive vibes afloat.

[@billwolfer4020]

@@BmakinFilm This was in the early 70's. I was going to UW in Laramie, WY, and I drove down to Denver to sit in at this jazz club (don't remember the name of it). The guys were all seasoned middle-aged black guys twice my age. When I asked if I could sit in, they were skeptical. I asked to play 'Night in Tunisia." They set that thing off at the wildest, fastest bebop tempo, and I got lost in the form when I went to solo, and went to the bridge too soon. The tempo was too much for me, and I could barely struggle through two choruses. No one threw a cymbal at my feet, or chewed me out. They didn't need to. It was one tune, and I slunk off the bandstand with none of them even looked at me. Nothing was said, or needed to be said. It was a great non-verbal lesson. On the long drive back to Laramie, I realized that I had a whole lot of work to do on my chops.

[@jayumble8390]

Jazz turning academic is what makes me, now days, take jazz with a big grain of salt. I love creative music period. Oh and the types of musics that proport to be 'jazz'....pathetic. Great doc btw!!

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you Jay! Jazz in the academy is such a double edged sword - certainly no room for innovation in the classroom. It turned it into repertory music...chk out my feature length JazzTown (more in depth interviews and playing) kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc There is more music and film here: ❤️Tips Are Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖️I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@jayumble8390]

@@BmakinFilm Definitely will. Thank you!

[@Pon-farrLovin3]

As far as a being a listener, Jazz will never die for me. There's just too much to listen to.But if I were a jazz musician, that would be different.

[@BmakinFilm]

I believe you will enjoy my first feature length film on jazz - JazzTown which is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odEsi=zUjWx5ViGO7WZ8lP

[@BmakinFilm]

I made a jazz album covering some recent pop tunes! Check it out and let me know what you think: music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433

[@dasgongbad197]

Jazz was on borrowed time as soon as it stopped being dance music. There is a space between dance music and meditation music...that is where jazz music is. It is hard to find an audience who will be with the sound, without meditating or dancing.....

[@BmakinFilm]

Well put Das! I believe you will enjoy my feature length film JazzTown (and other assorted music in links below): You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@Russilly]

Ron Miles!!!!! RIP awesome man AND trumpet player! It's not fair he left...

[@BmakinFilm]

Ron was amazing - I am happy you knew of him. He is featured in my first doc as well: JazzTown, which is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odEsi=zUjWx5ViGO7WZ8lP Echoes will release in 2025.

[@dannyhughes4889]

I recently saw a Video on Jazz in New York where a top level player interviewed in a Bar stated that he was being offered about $100 in the hand for a local jig.....take it or leave it as there are plenty around to do the work. An old timer piped up and said he was earning that sum way back in the 40's.

[@BmakinFilm]

Exactly Danny! [what is the name of the vid?] Back in the 1990s I was witness to an old sax player being punched in the face by the owner of a bar for having asked for a $5 dollar raise per man: they were each being paid $75! My goal is to see that this discussion is shared with teenagers before they sign off on student loans to study jazz. Please help spread the word AND check out my other jazz films: You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@keithbroughton4476]

Great doc Ben! I have to agree with some of John Michaels comments that it's an industry wide problem for live art as related to the economy. Fair point! As a live sound mix person for over 40 years I can remember we could work weeks, or split weeks, playing clubs for as much of the year as we chose and make a "reasonable" living. Not anymore. Jazz is not dead but will always find a way to improvise with the times.

[@BmakinFilm]

No doubt an industry-wide challenge. But related to economy? Not really. Name one other industry in the world where people are being paid the exact same amount (not even adjusted for inflation) they were being paid 60 years ago. Jazz musicians were being paid $100 in (some!) nightclubs in the 1960s. Now they are sometimes even being less: $75. (I believe the now infamous, and shuttered El Chapultepec in Denver (recently inducted into Colorado Music Hall of Fame) may have climbed from the $75 a night in 1980, to $80 a night by 2020). The economy has changed up and down many times since the 60s with ZERO effect on what clubs are paying... The pay was the same but it was the QUANTITY of gigs (like playing 5-7 gigs a week) combined with then-good pay that allowed musicians to buy homes (if they were smart with their money!) up through the 70s. There are no 5 night a week gigs these days and even if there were, $100 a night is still not enough to survive in the US. JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@sonja9001]

Denver’s jazz heroes…..the “micro Jazz scene” that was a surprise when I came to Boulder from Chicago in 1992! And to see those great musicians on this Video reminded me that I lucky to hear them and sometimes get to sit in with them.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@sonja9001 So cool you were there - I was playing a lot then in the Boulder/Denver scene (92 Inhad just gotten off a North American tour w Jumpin ) Who were some of your favorites to sit in with? You'll find more of them in my feature length JazzTown: You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤️Tips Are Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖️I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@bryanthill4155]

Corporate greed ensured that the music industry remained unregulated in order to hoard the money, ensuring and taking advantage of passionate musicians. The only way it will change is if musicians recognize their power and take control of their industry, the same way Doctors, lawyers, plumbers, electricians all have done.

[@BmakinFilm]

A crucial point - thanks @bryanthill4155 I had made that case to my friends (musicians) when the pandemic lockdowns first kicked in: organize w a plan before clubs reopen with the same offer ... its basically a form of unionizing (like you suggest: creating standards that all play by) - but there is not enough money in the clubs to interest the unions (which are now weak in the US anyway) and there are always thousands of "weekend warriors" willing to go play for free. I have seen some musicians having success writing grants as a means to subsidize the low paying gigs or to create bigger cause related community events. You may enjoy my feature length film JazzTown which is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odEsi=zUjWx5ViGO7WZ8lP Echoes will release in 2025.

[@jude999]

Corporations don't create music.

[@nap871]

Lawyers don't control their industry. You have no idea what a bunch of lemmings they are

[@tpe54]

thank you

[@BmakinFilm]

righteous - watch my first feature JazzTown (more in depth... what is jazz?) free too, can tip if have the feeling You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 🐞Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@degrovejazz]

Some good points and interesting quotes from people interviewed. The thesis of jazz being dead wasn't proved or even discussed. Instead, the documentary assumed this thesis and proceeded to show short clips of interviewees talking about it. I'm not sure the interviewees knew the documentary's thesis completely. That said, I feel like the thesis views change as death.

[@johncalo5856]

Zappa famously (or maybe not) said "Jazz is not dead...it just smells funny". And this was in 1973

[@rippedtopshelf6806]

Brutal.

[@BmakinFilm]

FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown (my feature length film - what is jazz? kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc

[@AnandajiMusic]

Tenor Saxophonist and street musician here. Tips are my life. House parties are bonuses. Open mics are for fun. I want a band to play with. Most of what I do requires only a backing track. If there isn’t enough foot traffic I will come up short on bread. I make ends meet with SSDI and family support. It’s not an easy life but I wouldn’t trade it for a regular job.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@AnandajiMusic Thanks for sharing Ananda - I busked for few years w my drums - the freedom was delicious... You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤️Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖️I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@DavidG-fv3xj]

I would love to hear more about how you got into being a street musician, what you play, how you determined what you play. I know it's too late for me, in my 60s, after a long IT career, but I still think about playing.

[@AnandajiMusic]

@@DavidG-fv3xj hi David I got into street music while I was studying business in NYC. On days off from class I would play in Central Park near Columbus circle in the tunnel under the bridge. Also by the famous fountain near there. These days I rarely go to the city for busking. I stick near my family’s home in Rockland county upstate NY. I spent time working as an accountant after I graduated. I even got a CPA license. Sad to say accounting was a task of misery to me. So I quit. I tried some other businesses mostly MLMs before I realized I had better “success” with my horn. My best days when I was playing at the local mall could bring in about $300 in four hours. Now I am working with a marketing specialist to get more paid gigs and maybe a get heard on the radio. I have playlists on my channel with karaoke and back tracks that I play over. I do jazz standards and classic pop songs as well as a lot of improvisation over jam tracks. Thanks for asking

[@bobbachelor5930]

This was heartbreaking. 😢

[@BmakinFilm]

@@bobbachelor5930 Thank you for sharing that... it is for me as well on many levels... I count my blessings that this music brought us together, that we shared time together as friends before they died. the struggle with the economics of making music is a different kind of heart break that has taken me years to understand is not the fault of the Music at all...

[@mansize6622]

@@bobbachelor5930 why ?

[@BmakinFilm]

@@mansize6622 Why what? Please clarify.

[@obsoletecd-rom]

@@BmakinFilmhe’s asking the op why he feels that this is heartbreaking.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@obsoletecd-rom understood - thanks🙂

[@PhillipBannowsky]

Ironic how a film that shows how much is in Jazz while showing how there's no money in it has more ads to interrupt the flow than any other video on KZbin I've ever seen.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@PhillipBannowsky WHO KILLED JAZZ AD FREE: www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz JAZZTOWN (92 min Award-Winning Doc) AD FREE: JAZZTOWN APPLETV Ad-Free in 4k! itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Phillip - you will enjoy watching my films AD FREE WHO KILLED JAZZ VIMEO Ad-Free In 4K w 5.1 Surround Sound www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz JAZZTOWN APPLETV Ad-Free in 4k! itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 THANKS FOR SUPPORTING JAZZ AND INDIE FILM You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤️Tips Are Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖️I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 🐞Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@percyvolnar8010]

7:14 Charlie Hunter NAILED IT!

[@BmakinFilm]

Agreed! He speaks and plays more in my feature length doc JazzTown (now on AppleTV, Amazon Prime, Google Play, Vudu and Vimeo) kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=SATbCxcUNrewUWYl I hope you watch it - let me know what you think (Mitch Chmara does some serious shredding too on gtr)

[@angelafoxmusic7265]

I'm iny 60s. The pay is the same as 35 - 40 years ago. Fortunately, I don't need to play to make ends meet nowadays. Now I can do it for fun without the pressure.

[@BmakinFilm]

Smart move Angela - its hard to convince youth of the wisdom of having a back up plan to that bebop degree... Some turn to teaching but a lifetime of interfacing w Admin is not for all. I have a film on the obstacles women face in a male dominated industry titled We Are Here: Women In Jazz (in post production - seeking additional producer if interested: watch the trailer) kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=sE9-_hPrZHN6j9AH and enjoy my award-winning feature JazzTown also free here on YT You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 🐞Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@marshalmcdonald7476]

To me, once it became an academic discipline the life was squeezed out of it. The technique outpaced the aesthetics after the schools got their talons on it. It just became so chatty. Too many notes, too much 'look at how brilliant I am'.

[@BmakinFilm]

I agree that is a huge component, yet one filled with great irony. The institutionalization of jazz has kept it alive as repertory (classical) music but has squashed the soul and spirit of innovation (rebellion) out of it. The schools cannot teach and grade soul and spirit (and will not tolerate rebellion for obvious reasons) so they avoid them and design curriculum that addresses only technique and a propagandized history of jazz. There is a potential backlash: just as children often rebel against their parents I have met and interviewed musicians, Veronica Swift being one of them (from U of Miami music program), who played the game to get the degree and then found themselves fighting against all that was expected of them to rediscover their own voice (modernizing/being contemporary)... thus coming back to a fierce spirit of innovation to be free of oppression. Granted, these are the exception... but they stand to bring whole new audiences into improv based music.

[@marshalmcdonald7476]

@@BmakinFilm Thanks for that feedback.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

Yes! Jazz becoming too avant-garde and esoteric is definitely one of the causes.

[@marshalmcdonald7476]

@@AbbeyRoadkill1 Yep. I understand that some artists need to push the envelope and all that but it seems that almost all of the art has been taken up with overly technical or outside stuff. And then the players complain about their audiences.

[@lordofthemound3890]

We all know that as soon as people stop dancing to the music, its popularity takes a nose-dive.

[@dannyhughes4889]

Many young Classical musicians are rethinking their futures. In a Kibbutz in Northern Israel every normal year a thing called Keshet Eylon is conducted where Super Top young Stringed Instrument players from all over the World come together for a week or so to play and attend Master Classes conducted by top established educators and Professionally active Musicians. A few years ago a group were surveyed and asked what they intended to do in future. The questioner said he expected to hear 'Degrees, Advanced Studies, positions in top Orchestras' etc etc BUT was floored when hearing that most were concerned at the possibility of making a decent living in a tough profession and were going into things other than music. This after Parents had invested vast sums in Lessons and Instruments and Students had devoted endless hours honing their skills....not wasted but ...........................!!!!!!!!!!!

[@BmakinFilm]

Fantastic story! That is exactly the kind of awareness I hope Who Killed Jazz contributes to... Those student's you mention are quite smart to have picked up on that which their parents and teachers had, presumably, failed to convey: there are very few positions for classical musicians in orchestras (or in pro jazz bands) from which a living can be made. One of my former percussion students made into a high level graduate program ... the fact that a position (tympanist, for example) in any given major orchestra may open once every 40 years ... is nearly insane to ponder - the competiveness alone can lead to mental health issues. FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@wendelynmusic]

People don't go out for live music anymore because it's too darn expensive. ugh. I used to pay $10 to see a show and back in the 80's and 90's I made $50 to $100 on a gig. Blows me away their still making that same wage. It's bs.

[@TheMisterGriswold]

My friends in cover bands report the same thing.

[@surreyslurrey]

Conditions are ripe for some kind of comeback. But if jazz is a reflection of society we'll get a hand full of billionaires and the rest making peanuts.

[@production58]

Do you know what they’ve always said about jazz?.. if you wanna make $1 million in jazz, you have to invest 2 million

[@jimkangas4176]

(FWIW I used to play in restaurants - I had a non-music day gig). I don't buy that because apparently people go to see XYZ at some stadium, pay hundreds of dollars for a ticket, and sit in traffic for hours to get there and get home, and have to watch XYZ on a jumbotron. I'd much rather be in a club.

[@Sharkwhisperer]

Imagine how long it takes to gain back the money spent on jazz education

[@YogiMcCaw]

It's hard to put your finger on what exactly jazz is. You know it when you hear it, but it's really hard to describe. It's not just standards or the Great American Songbook, as great as those things are. It's also creating your own new music, which draws on your background with the standards, but may incorporate all kinds of things, like other world music traditions, or even electronic effects. Like being in love - how do you define that? It could be a lot of things, but it still is definitely it's own thing at the same time. Anyway, each new generation redefines popular music, and let's face it - jazz hasn't been the current popular music since the 1950s. The days when a record like Kind of Blue can shoot to the top of the charts is over. That's hard to digest, I know, but there it is. I like Jazz because of the delicate balance it embodies between discipline and freedom. It's not a co-incidence that the really free players are the ones who are very grounded about their discipline. No matter how far out they get with the improvisation, they always know exactly where they are in the form. I love that interplay between form and freedom. I listen for that in other musicians. I always made more money playing R&B/disco hits for private parties. At a certain point I just decided I'd play jazz on my own terms because that was what was fulfilling for me. As I enter my so-called "Golden Years" it's less and less about trying to make something happen on a business level, and more and more about just getting my musical ideas expressed in some fashion. I got my best buddies I like to play with and we have a certain niche of folks that likes what we do. Music can be both intensely personal and also communal. I like it the best when we're sharing it with family and friends, but I also like to be alone composing my ideas. It's a balance. You have to have a strong feeling about why you want to play music. It's a different calculus than just banging out a product to (hopefully) make some money.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks Yogi - I believe you will enjoy my feature JazzTown now free here on YT kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc as it delves into your questions of what is jazz and features masters of jazz who played w Ellington, Parker, Holiday, Rollins ... and others (Ron Bucknam) who use electronics. Ron too was very into communal music - sharing and connecting w family and friends (harder to do if avant garde!) I'm glad to hear you made it to the Golden Years safe and happy! Many do not who stick with playing only jazz... the economics and socionomics can beat a guy down... You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@polanve]

Oh, the end is spectacular!

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you for watching till the end @polanve You may enjoy my feature length film JazzTown which is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odEsi=zUjWx5ViGO7WZ8lP Echoes will release in 2025.

[@BenPrevo]

Nice to see Ron -- I knew him years ago and I have his Lp Hints.

[@BmakinFilm]

You can see more of Ron in my feature length doc JazzTown You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤️Tips Are Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖️I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@pearsonart]

So much to unpack. The economy can’t be ignored. Inflation has left working musicians behind. Jazz is abstraction and ALL forms of creative abstraction have suffered with the general decline in intelligence and emotional investment in the arts. Younger generations are most interested in video games. Now THAT would be the combination to change things. Jazz and video games actually have a lot in common.

[@williemakeit2346]

Funny you mentioned jazz and video games. There is a thriving scene that’s been going on for years with young jazz musicians playing innovative renditions of video game music. Check out artists like the 8-bit Orchestra or Patrick Bartley. The creative stuff is out here, you need only look.

[@pearsonart]

⁠ Thanks! I know good stuff is out there and there are some dynamite young people. JD Beck and Domi come to mind. Matteo Mancuso too. Big fan of Robert Glasper and neo soul stuff. Haven’t been aware of a video theme variant. Thanks! :)

[@williemakeit2346]

@ most welcome man. Big JD Beck & Domi fan myself!! Keifer is badass too!

[@pearsonart]

Domi’s writing has a Zappa quality I’m a sucker for. Hopeful for another generation of that.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@williemakeit2346 8 Bit is very creative - thanks for naming names: these are very creative groups! Keifer plays w a Bob James-like inspiration. I love the vibe and excitement JD Beck & Domi have brought. Mancuso has a lot of clean and exciting chops - will be fun to listen as he grows and develops more harmonic depth (ala Ted Green and Mitch Chmara).

[@BladeScab]

Jazz is a painting of the human condition. It is so beautiful! so sad it is under valued.

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks Blade - sad indeed ... please watch my other jazz films and chk out my music below: FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@machinelearng]

The truth is if the business moguls who control radio, TV and the machine that makes things popular didn't want jazz to be on the bottom it wouldn't be on the bottom. There are some style of music that are not interesting enough to sustain an audience for a long time that have been pumped up because some powerful element in the industry decided that they wanted that music to be pumped up. Mostly because they were going to make a lot of money. Songs that are fun and stupid like the Macarena or I'm Too Sexy get played until there's no more juice left because the powerful mogul forces it. But that's fades quickly. Jazz is a universally love music but because it was dominated by certain people it was pushed down and ignored by the entertainment industry. In today's time, R&B that is full of innovation and talent has been ignored by the industry controllers. Same with jazz almost 70 years ago. They only allow insulting, embarrassing, destructive music to be promoted into popularity. We are looking at social engineering using music. It makes people think the way they think when they're young. They grow up to be children. not adults. The entertainment business powers primarily use children in entertainment because they can manipulate other children with the product. Jazz is full of adults. The industry can't control adults as well as they can control children. Again, this is social engineering. Its not by accident

[@BmakinFilm]

Your second point (social engineering) is most interesting. Your first point is perhaps true but only beginning in the 1980s - from at least 1927 when the movie The Jazz Singer came out (actually the "first jazz record" came out in 1917 and sold at least a quarter million copies. some claim a million but the record company manufacturing records only show about 250,000 pressed) ...(i don't think the decline of jazz's popularity was engineered... but i would consider more evidence if you will provide it!) Jazz has been used to drive sales of records, movies (lots of jazz in movie soundtracks and films about jazz in the 1940s and 1950s especially) and lots of jazz in TV of the 70s (many of the studio composers and players were jazz musicians)... Jazz obviously lost its place as the popular music of the masses by the end of the 1930s, but the moguls, as you say, used it for the marketing power it had well into the 70s. Look at what the great Quincy Jones accomplished (his training in jazz allowed him to "sneak" a lot of it into all of the major tv, record, and film work he oversaw through at least the 90s, from Basie and Sinatra to Michael Jackson ...) There are fascinating arguments to be made about the social engineering of music that I have only recently come across claiming for example that some of the 60s and 70s rock bands (the beatles, the doors,) came from wealth and military was able to manipulate them and the music (as counterculture) to actually introduce more drugs (lsd) and get kids distracted with social causes to distract them from the activities of globalists working to undermine democracy, or maintain the facade - basically to distract and weaken any attempt to interfere with the military industrial complex. ... So you have an intersting point with that: the popular music (since at least the 1980s) has become infantilized and look whats gone done and come to light w arrest of Puffy Sean Combs ...

[@machinelearng]

​@@BmakinFilm I think jazz is in everything, even today. HipHops best moments included jazz. Tribe Called Quest, Digable Planets, Brand Nubians etc. But just as "Neo-Soul" was killed in the early 2000s jazz was killed in a similar way. When jazz is written and played it is often a musician who has a higher intellect. Because the nature of jazz, the musician's and the listeners generally have a higher intellect. The machine that thinks its their place to force people to get vaccines or get rid of free speech or anything else that violates human rights and freedom, doesn't want an intellectual public. Its hard to control smart, healthy and informed people. This is why neo-soul was killed. Just like the poetry/spoken word movement was dropped from their agenda to promote. they thought spoken word would turn into the trash the rap turned into, but it didn't. Spoken word became a new branch of the conscience hip hop movement. So they let it die out. No more plays on Broadway. No more Tony awards or TV shows showcasing spoken word. These people want children to entertain everyone. Because they want people to grow up to become children. Immature and dysfunctional. I have more but I'm getting too long winded. The independent music industry has to develop some kind of organized structure without the element that controlled the music industry as well as the club and touring industry. That element is poison. Its greedy and subversive. History shows this. Just look at the "artists" being promoted over the last 15 years. far too many have no class, very little talent and are horrible influences on a young unprotected mind.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@machinelearng These are wonderful insights - thank you! I agree with spoken word [ I wrote In The Moon of the Black Calf a spoken word track and lyric w Leslie Brown delivering the lyric music.apple.com/us/album/in-the-moon-of-the-black-calf/564259433?i=564259479] : it had power and relevance - could use any genre of music as the bed upon which they delivered social commentary - very powerful, very jazz. Your comments about the infantilization of the massses (keeping them childlike and dependent) id very apropos especially with recent news of celebrities and politicians doing very very bad things to children ... the topic is deep. Thanks for your input: never long winded! Here are links to some other films I have and and am working on Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@Jazzrocks-b4t]

That picture really kills it

[@BmakinFilm]

Thank you - she's hot! You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@timcareymusic]

This is a weird documentary. It seems like a bunch of disconnected clips of people giving anecdotes which don't coalesce into a larger point. It doesn't use any data to show that live music, or jazz, is dead or dying. It even starts out by comparing a jazz musician to a doctor, which makes absolutely zero sense. The reality is that LOTS of musician make a living, and many make a great living. They do it by providing a service, like teaching, or playing music that they are asked to play. The fact that it's hard to make a living while playing exclusively creative music is nothing new, it's always been that way. Claiming that jazz is dead because you can't make a living playing it anymore is extremely sad to me. Jazz is alive and well if you just look around and realize how many people are actually playing it and learning it in 2024. One of the worst things you can do for the future of jazz is dissuade young people from pursuing it because it won't eventually pay their bills. Yikes.

[@Poodleoop]

Great comment 👍

[@skipb119]

@@Poodleoop Yup! This documentary is "Exhibit A" for what has happened to jazz. I teach a social history of jazz course at the college where I'm on faculty (sociology faculty not music). One of my students - a non-music major - said out loud in class, "I'm not smart enough to listen to any jazz after the swing era!"

[@ThomasGilmore-fi6gb]

​@@skipb119The recording industry is responsible for the direct and deliberate dumbing down of the "musical maturity" of the public. Promoting mediocrity makes their assembly line production machine better able to push their "product". It's about making music the McDonald's way. Sell millions and then crow about how that proves that it's great food (or music). It's easier to market storytelling, poetry, social commentary, & philosophy (literature) accompanied by simplistic harmony and grandiose production (lipstick on a pig) What is being promoted is a linguistic experience because it requires less experience and effort on the part of both the producers and listeners. When was the last time that there was an instrumental hit on the air?

[@crysstoll1191]

Agreed, got 8mns in and it's fairly incoherent.

[@BmakinFilm]

@@skipb119 Fantastic! I hope you will watch my other films (JazzTown explores and celebrates the meaning of jazz) and Echoes examines the influence of Native American music on the birth of jazz - I would be surprised if any one at your school is speaking of that! I am available for school screenings and QandA (zoom too) Please let your student know that listening to any kind of music is just like walking through the park and listening to sounds of nature - requires no intelligence at all! Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@Bepop42]

Great job ❤

[@BmakinFilm]

🌟 You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤️Tips Are Appreciated!❤️ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖️I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@Bepop42]

@ I will right now….

[@BmakinFilm]

@@Bepop42Sweet!

[@iamfoleymusic]

6:45. Great Congo solo

[@BmakinFilm]

That's Denver's own Francisco Mejias!

[@Herluf979]

Jazz will live forever.

[@BmakinFilm]

It has always been. ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY OWN JAZZTOWN! JAZZTOWN  AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1  Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20

[@ajn465]

Playing music on acoustic instruments is an element of the human experience that transcends mere casual activity. So very many different elements need to be pulled together. The physical task of working an instrument... The concepts of time in pitch and harmony.… But when one engages in this process, the reward is the building of the neural pathways between the two hemispheres of the brain. Things that didn’t make sense begin to make sense. you find yourself able to look at a problem from multiple sides. And if you’re lucky enough to grasp a decent portion of that with which makes decent jazz… You get to engage in one of the most trancendesent 😮experience as a human can have. The act of spontaneously creating music.. In the air. In real time. For real. And if you just happen to be sitting in the audience… You get to witness the act of creation, immediate, and fleeting… And then it’s gone. Until you visit again. And that’s why it is so very very special. But it requires Both patience and participation by both the player and the listenear. I can only pray that our civilization rediscovers the wonder of pure music. As opposed to… Product.

[@BmakinFilm]

@ajn465 Thats a wonderful meditation - thanks! You may enjoy my feature length film JazzTown which is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odEsi=zUjWx5ViGO7WZ8lP Echoes will release in 2025.

[@asimplenameichose151]

100% (lifelong musician and evangelist for attention and musical experience, just wanting to echo your sentiments)

[@jay1frk]

I'm not a musician, but I've been listening to jazz my whole life. I blame the American jazz stations. You got 50, 60, 70 years of great jazz music, but they play some of the most mundane stuff you can find. They don't even play the great Miles and Trane stuff as much as they should. I wonder if younger people even know who Herbie Mann, Eddie Harris, Milt Jackson, Wes Montgomery, Mongo Santamaria, etc. was

[@BmakinFilm]

Thanks Jay - you raise a very interesting observation: I had intended to interview radio DJs that are friends of mine for this film, but I was trapped in Bali during the pandemic when I edited this using the footage I had already filmed during the making of JazzTown (which I hope you will watch as well (free here kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ) Contemporary radio DJS (on air personalities) have their hands tied by the music directors (and of course GMs) - even more so with the community supported stations where djs used to have a lot more freedom as to what they could spin: they are now beholden to spin what has been predetermined by the director: mostly pushing new releases... so you are right: they do not play the masters of classic jazz as much as the fans of that music would like - and since much of today's jazz music put out by major labels (radio ready) is rehash of the classics (the mundane stuff you refer to), it is doomed to fall short: great imitation at best... These Djs know this but cant do much about it ... One woman dj broke away from a jazz station when they turned more corporate and started her own INTERNET radio station: the TAVN NETWORK www.tavn.org/oah-1 People like you will help others find the classics by playing them and spreading the word. Funny you mention Herbie Mann. (and Mongo - one of my favs!) Denver was fortunate to have drummer Bruno Carr (also played w Charlie Parker) making it his home in the 90s - Bruno had played w Herbie Mann back in the day... then Herbie was booked at the JazzWorks where Bruno was house drummer. Herbie was on tour with his own group, but Bruno came down and we witnessed a warm reunion... Sadly Bruno died before I started my documentary work ... Here's a few more things I've done - with your tastes you may enjoy the Leslie Brown Tenderly CD I produced and drummed on (also wrote jazz lyrics for the ol rock classic Tequila) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@jay1frk]

@@BmakinFilm ..will watch for sure

[@henryzelman33]

Jazz is a genre of music that requires too much thought by people with no attention span, no creativity, and no patience. Jazz is just too deep and good for the common folk. Jazz is my favorite music genre and only the best musicians get it.

[@BmakinFilm]

Well... I understand that sentiment as far as 1947 and beyond jazz is concerned (in general: but Chet Baker does not demand much thought for ex - just sit back and relax) - but jazz began as a music for the common folk by the common folk (actually a blend of uptown and downtown cultures) - perhaps it is qualities like that missing from much of today''s jazz. Then again we now have young singers, like Samara Joy, playing in old smooth melodic fashion bringing new listeners back into the fold. Remember it takes a 10 year old a few years before they start loving Eric Dolphy Out To Lunch🤗 You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@MrAllright2]

Oh, my! This is the truest statement I've ever heard on jazz since long and thanks for it. We're in that world that has lost everything you said : attention span - the most obvious one to me- creativity, patience and concentration on things which are (slightly to overtly) complex. The problem is that everything, from formal education, family and friends circles, not to mention politics (!) associative entities, tend to bring you down in terms of emotional, mental and understanding richness. So they get bored because they don't understand what they are hearing. Same for me Henry, jazz is my favourite genre and will remain that way. Best regards from France where jazz is still very much appreciated... but not by a majority, unfortunately. But we have fans...

[@henryzelman33]

@@MrAllright2 We think alike my friend.

[@kenlove1472]

Heartbreaking

[@BmakinFilm]

Yes it is Ken - enjoy the time you have here with friends and family. The moments I spent with these musicians on and off stage is a blessing that fuels my existence - to continue to create - but being more mindful of jobs that do not respect or value my worth. I hope you'll watch my feature film JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqdh a bit more upbeat with some familiar faces in pursuit of the meaning of Jazz! JazzTown is also free here on youtube: You can watch my feature length film JazzTown - Free links in the following: ❤Tips Are Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@carl_valentin]

Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny. ( F. Zappa )

[@stevewik2280]

Beat me to it!

[@jasonnstegall]

Jazz SHOULD be played with RIGOR so it doesn’t end up in a state of MORTIS. (Hey-O!) [And this comes from someone who is an appreciative listener of jazz.]

[@BmakinFilm]

They might kick it, but jazz is here to stay. (Charles Burrell from the movie JazzTown)

[@nested_King]

smh….

[@reidwhitton6248]

Don't be fooled. Zappa loved jazz. He just didn't want the term associated with his music because jazz doesn't sell. But he hired some of the best jazz players for his bands.

[@atoexodus]

Breaks my heart

[@BmakinFilm]

Me too: JazzTown is more upbeat and I've got one coming on Women In Jazz too: Watch my otherAward-Winning Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website too! www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5I ❤Enjoy my films? Leave a Tip here!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen AppleTV itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jazztown/id1655900812?ls=1 Amazon www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZDA1DBGQBP0BI22DDA2AF9R9/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20 I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@williamfagan7835]

" You blows who you is": Louis Armstrong

[@BmakinFilm]

A hero! Truth and authenticity - its all in your sound . Watch my other Films & Become a Super Fan! Cool Jazz Merch on my website www.benmakinen.com/merch JazzTown (90 min award-winning film) is a bit more upbeat on the state of jazz! JazzTown (now on AppleTV Amazon Prime Vudu, Google Play ... even RMPBS) official trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3PGaGBrnKaGn5Isi=n050rKVOfwOVrbCt I have also completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition official trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8Usi=obYI8IpE6R_iikRc

[@musicmaker4797]

Jazz started to “die” when jazz musicians and composers stopped trying to make jazz a form of “popular music”, which requires something people can dance and sing along to. (Back in the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s, jazz was the very definition of popular music.) The decline of jazz appears to have coincided with the emergence of Bebop, which musicians and composers couldn’t (or refused to) make singable or danceable.

[@BmakinFilm]

The decline in popularity does appear to coincide with Bebop's rise... yet another component was the 20% tax imposed on nightclubs for having a singer or dancer (circa 1940) ... I hope you'll enjoy my other jazz films and music: FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc ❤Tips Are Kindly Appreciated!❤ www.paypal.me/benmakinen Now you can OWN my films JazzTown and Who Killed Jazz AD-FREE: 🏆OWN “JAZZTOWN” - www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jazztown 🌟OWN “WHO KILLED JAZZ” - www.vimeo.com/ondemand/whokilledjazz 🚨FREE ON KZbin: JAZZTOWN Award-Winning Feature Film from dir Ben Makinen kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc 🏆Become a Super Fan! Cool JAZZ MERCH on my website too! T-SHIRTS MUGS HATS www.benmakinen.com/merch 🏖I have completed a film on the Native American influences at the birth of jazz titled Echoes of Tradition. Official Trailer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLTXnyGi9l3odE Echoes will release in 2025. 🔥We Are Here: Women In Jazz (obstacles women face in a male dominated industry) is in post production Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XWpZmgYphrl8U I have an eclectic mix of "jazz"records I have produced, composed and performed as well: 👄Leslie Brown & Ben Makinen: “Tenderly” music.apple.com/us/album/tenderly/564259433 💥Ben Makinen: “Goliath Beetle & The Ladybug” (Jazz/Electronica) music.apple.com/us/album/the-goliath-beetle-the-ladybug/576962331 🐥Ben Makinen: “Lost Lullaby” music.apple.com/us/album/lost-lullaby/65203708 (The Jazz Dreams of Nascent Lap Tops) 🪘🎺 Tom Ball w Ben Makinen: “Fishleather Jacket” (Latin Jazz) music.apple.com/us/album/fishleather-jacket/64644385 🎸🥁AREA 15 LIVE music.apple.com/us/album/live/65453875 (Industrial Jazz Trio w JazzTown Star Mitch Chmara on Guitar and JazzTown Director Ben Makinen on Drums!) FREE ON KZbin: JazzTown kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6LOd2iKfKdpbqc Who Killed Jazz kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6mZWdoeb6feZY

[@BertoBoyd]

The great American art form that should be highly celebrated and paid for the ppl that can really do it. Sad truth

[@BmakinFilm]

Jazz is highly celebrated outside of the US (for example in Asia). I am not sure if the economics are any better.

[@sheldondrake8935]

you would be pleasantly surprised to see some young Japanese women absolutely killing it, look for Harumo Imai